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Fightback Jack
Fightback Jack
2014-02-27 18:40:42
Telemarketer
THE BAD NEWS: Card Services calls aren't going to stop anytime soon.

THE GOOD NEWS: You can retaliate, reduce the misery, and even have some fun.

RETALIATE:

Waste these turkeys' time. Keep them on the line by acting like an interested prospect. Give them bogus data, including a combination of two different credit card numbers, scrambled Social Security digits, and a modified ZIP Code. Important: provide a credit card company's real 800 number.

After they call the credit card company, you can give them the same credit card info as before with two of the numbers transposed, thus causing them to make a second verification call. Or you can respond, "Guess what ... H-O-O-N-N-K-K [from a $6 air horn] you've been PRANKED! Call back tomorrow for more bullshot." Now they're the butt of your joke.

REDUCE THE MISERY:

Landlines. Enroll for the free service at nomorobo.com. Simultaneous ringing, a free feature many providers offer, enables nomorobo to receive, answer and, after one ring, automatically hang up on nuisance telephone numbers.

Cell phones. Block the number, an option that becomes available on the iPhone if you click on the "i" on the right in the list of recent calls and scroll to the bottom. Unfortunately, Card Services will keep calling from new spoofed numbers, which eventually should motivate you to retaliate.

HAVE FUN:

Turning the tables on the perpetrators with mischievous deception and the news they've been duped provides instantaneous vigilante satisfaction. Plus you serve your fellow call recipients by slowing down this evil operation's efforts to defraud them.
PublicNotice
PublicNotice
2014-02-27 18:20:15
Unknown
For the person who keeps down voting my posts..

Did you even read the post? If your going to down vote it.. at least give your opinion as to why you feel that this isn't a valid solution.. that would save both of us some time if this is just going to be a war between you and I.
PublicNotice
PublicNotice
2014-02-27 18:02:18
Unknown
[Read Before You Mark For Removal]

Offender: Telemarketing Agency Based In Florida

[History]

11/25/2013 - After receiving calls for about a year I finally was able to get an agent to give me a call back number (a rare event). This number (800-892-9533) was/is tied to Financial Savings Solutions, a company that is owned by Kimberly Coarse.

After considerable digging I was able to find a number of additional companies associated with Kimberly with several of them being marketing/financial orientated. Every time I was called from a new spoofed number I made a new post with that number. The idea being that the collective whole could gather more data on this possible offender.

Did it work? Yes it did, more and more publicly available data was consolidated and it was re-posted again and again. Turns out Kimberly was already under investigation and on 11/26/2013 Kimberly was charged in Orange County Florida with:

PUBLIC ORDER CRIMES-SOLICIT SALE WITHOUT LIC
EMPLOYING OR AFFILIATING WITH UNLICENSED TELEPHONE SOLICITAT

(source www.seminoleclerk.org Case 592013CF003402C)


The case is still pending .....


To validate that this was the right person the arrest mugshot was matched up to her Facebook photos. This was indeed the correct Kimberly Coarse. With so much consolidated information, both personal and her business, being posted online people began to contact her. She started to search online to discover the posts about her business.

In response I was able to have a dialog conversion with her about the calls and her business.

(Source, although much of her personal/business information has been removed, likely by her request)
whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/7314984058/


To sum up the conversation, Kimberly basically works in the industry that is callings us. While her company doesn't call anyone, her company does benefit from the calls (read the link above for her response). She believes that there is a marketing company that isn't playing by the rules. Because she works in the industry she has more insight to how the system is setup.

"There is one main communications company that 90% of the advertisers doing this kind of dialing use" .... So she believe she knows the company that's in control of the technology that allows the "advertisers" use to make the calls. There is historic information online about other such companies who provided telecom services to marketers that abused the system. They were shutdown and fined. So there is good incentive for the company that is doing this to find users that are abusing it.


[Solution]

We can vent anger online and submit letters to the FCC and other government agencies. I've done it and you know what? It has absolutely no effect. Here we have someone who employees the services of the people we hate. While she doesn't have direct control she could have an impact on the harassing calls. Won't take down the crappy business model that is setup and likely someone else is going to come around and abuse the system again. However, I see few options.

Kimberly has offered to provide the company she is using with a list of numbers that are being called. Now obviously she's not doing this out of the kindness of her heart, she's being harassed by the people who are being harassed. So she has a vested interest in getting this to stop. Given the amount of personal/public data about her online it's easy to understand this.

We can continue to complain and moan online about how we hate being called, or we provide the information Kimberly needs to stop the calls (or at least attempt to). Now as some people have complained in prior posts, these companies are after your personal information. That providing them anything more is giving them more of that personal data so you can be scammed.

Well to that I say, yes it is a risk but it's pretty low. They already have your phone number that much we all can agree on. This is what Kimberly needs...

Time Called:    (please provide your time zone, and exact time)
Their Number:   What was displayed can your caller ID
Your Number:

Your going to have to send this to her via email... There has been concern that your email address will then be harvested and used. If this is a concern for you, then just setup a new email account (gmail/hotmail/yahoo) and send her the info. You can send this to her at kimberlyc1984 at icloud.com.

The company that is providing the phone services will be able to search their databases for outbound calls to your phone at that time. This will trace directly back to the offending marketing company that isn't following the Do Not Call List and is harassing you.

Is this going to work 100%, probably not. I have no idea how serious Kimberly is about helping us, I hope her offer was genuine. There is no certainty that the company providing the phone service will do anything about it. However, this approach seems like it would yield better results than writing complaints online.


rich f
rich f
2014-02-27 17:25:54
Unknown
they call no message....BLOCKED
Tamianth
Tamianth
2014-02-25 19:31:53
Debt Collector
Informational Post:

Report the calls here to the proper Authority's:

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1
https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/form1088.action
https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx?panel=2
http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/
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Consider buying a call blocking device or phone..
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=call+blockers
kusutare
kusutare
2014-02-21 19:31:04
Unknown
how can we find a number we can call them at?
Sam
Sam
2014-02-21 17:24:40
Unknown
Yep - these guys... S*ck...
3 calls to my cell phone in 24 hours.. .
yet another entry in my contacts... zDO_NOT_ANSWER_87734
Irate
Irate
2014-02-21 03:16:01
Telemarketer
they called tonight at 10pm.   when i advised them it was illegal to call after 9pm...they hung up on me.   how do these people obtain telephone numbers that are non existent...what the hell is the FCC doing about that....certainly not regulating for all the fuckiing taxes and fees we pay to them!!!!
Manana
Manana
2014-02-20 22:54:30
Unknown
I got a call 20 min ago from this number and have not answered, because of unknown phone. I am tired to getting calls from all over from unknown phone numbers, Can somebody advise me how to avoid these calls on my phone please?
stop
stop
2014-02-20 22:09:42
Unknown
Scum sucking card services.out of Florida.
Bob
Bob
2014-02-20 21:53:02
Unknown
Phone call on my cell, number unknown, most likely spam.
Swan
Swan
2014-02-20 18:01:09
Unknown
I got a call from this number about 45 minutes ago.  I don't answer calls from unknown numbers any more.

Likely a call from the credit card scammers again.  I've found one other report of this number calling today on the web claiming that it came from this scam.
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