I have gotten calls from these Indian guys.The phone numbers were different on both occassion. He said that I need to come to California with my attorney because he had paperwork that shows I have not paid my loan.He never could give me the loan amount,the date the loan was taken out. I ask, why the company did not contact me before hand. The guy that is calling use the name Joe Brown and the partner name is Chris Martinez. When u call their number back it say's the caller's mail box is full. Here is the phone number that he has been using. 760-856-0951
Cashnet confirmed they do NOT use this agency. It's a fraud. The number you're referencing has since been disconnected.
Search under 2137844846 or 2137844822 for more info.
I haven't gotten calls from both of those numbers also, I have paid this man Ray Fleck $150 already. I called today to try to get antoher payment and I told him that if he could send me any paper work stating what he was sueing for and what company that he wasn't getting another payment, he got angry and said that he could return the money and just send it to court. So I decided to google the number and the 800notes came up and I'm so glad, cause they were about to get $598 out of me. All I need to do is report them now.
Who do I need to report this to?
Cause I have being dealing with this Ray Fleck also and the only time I can reach him, is when a payment is do and he the number's he has given me is 213-784-4846 and 213-784-0667... I'm so scared cause I don't know what to believe..
I started getting calls from this number last week. The person claimed to be a man from Hudson Law Associates, and went by the name of Shawn. He told me that I had an outstanding cash advance loan that needed to be settled and what were my intentions. After contacting the cash advance company( cashnetusa.com ) it was determined that this person was trying to just scam me. I gave the the cash advance fraud department this information.
i called them an said i was filing the charges against them they said uh hmm sure.....how do i stop this?
i received a call today from a shaun woods-hudson lawfirm stating my husband and i had a 300 dollar online loan that was never paid, and that because i didnt pay the loan back it is now 641.00. i did however have a online cash advance but it was paid in full a year ago. i looked up the number and this site is where it took me. the guy had an indian accent and only answers the phone to how may i help you or yes, hello?. i told him i was filing fraudulent charges upon them he said uh hmm sure. please be aware of this caller. my loan place said to call all three reporting agencies bc the caller does have all your information!!!!!!!! also call the federal trade commision or go to site ftc.gov another posibility is to contact local police station!!!!!!!
DON'T THINK ABOUT FILING CHARGES - DO IT!
File complaints with LAPD, FBI Attorney General. THAT'S HOW YOU STOP THEM!
When they call back tell THEM you know all about their little scam and you have filed extortion and fraud charges.
They'll stop calling.
They continue to call as long as they think they can get money from you.
It's a scam, and all their threats are false and illegal. The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
Here are a few news reports and government advisories warning consumers about this scam:
ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1
West Virginia Attorney General: http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
WTAE TV4, Pittsburgh: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
Florida Commissioner of Consumer Services: http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html
This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, US Federal Bank, Sonic Bank, Hopkins Law Office, Christian Nicholas & Associates, CashNet, Financial Crime Prevention, National Crimes Division, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit, David Morgan & Assoicates, Impact Business Marketing and many more. These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
These scammers attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Other trademark phrases include threatening the consumer with ridiculous phrases such as "If you don't pay then only God can help you" or "If you don't call me back then I can only wish you good luck."
The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal for them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection. (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank. Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (
http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.
If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone. Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org
5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)
By the way, here's just a *small* sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:
From what I was told from "Officer Mike Johnson," they'll only take credit card numbers. Still, I'd call your bank and let them know what's going on.
I got a call today from a number that came up UNKNOWN but left a callback number of 213-784-4846. In the message the man told me to call back to NOT ignore the message as it was a very serious matter concerning a lawsuit being called against me. When I called back the man said he represented Cashnetusa - an online lending company. He said it was regarding a deliquent account of mine. I have taken a loan with this company but I'm positive that it was paid off - told him that. He raised his voice and said was absolutely NOT paid off and that unless I settled the $400 balance the lawsuit would be filed. He had all my information..last four digits of my SS#, my checking account number, name of my bank...etc. When I told him I was going to check it out he got angry and said "May god help you!" I called Cashnet and they confirmed that I was fine - now I'm worried this company will start withdrawing money from my account.
Follow up: When I asked the name of the lead attorney at "Hudson Law Firm," Mr. East Indian Accent told me it was "none of my business" and hung up. I got some address, which I assume is bogus. 1173 Pickewirth (Road? Lane? Street? Ave? Not sure), Los Angeles, CA 91744.
I'm considering filing charges through the LAPD or attorney general.
I keep getting calls from the same place.First he said they were representing BIG limited. Then cashnetusa. I contacted both places, and neither of them outsourced it to a company called "Hudson Law Firm."
1. A BIG rep said the company handles its delinquent -- even very delinquent -- loans in house. They only ask for bank account numbers, etc. -- never credit card information.
2. Cashnetusa told me they'd sent the account to AIS Services, which outsourced it to NRS (national recovery solutions). I'm currently making payments on that loan. (Although there is a duplicate account that I'm working to correct.) "Ray" from Hudson Law Firm said he got the account directly from cashnet. He also told me cashnet and BIG were the same company. Neither is true.
I had two numbers for Hudson -- which first went to a live person, later a voice mailbox and then nothing -- the numbers were disconnected. I got another call from Hudson and I now have a new number.
I called the number back, and the rep only answers with "how may I help you?" When I asked the name of the firm, he hung up on me. The second time I called, he would not give the name of the firm until I told him my phone number -- I asked him to tell me first, again -- hung up. A third time, someone answered "law firm" and when I pressed for more information about how they acquired my loan the Hudson "rep" hung up on me.
I'm ashamed to say I got scared and paid these crooks $125, but thankfully it was from a pre-loaded debit card, not my bank account. I received similar threats of litigation.
Dont mess with a banker
Received a call today from "Paul Lockhart" saying that either me or my attorney needed to call them about legal proceedings that were being held against my name and ss#. He said that if I did not call him back then "May God be with you". Scary stuff.....I called and got "Danny Morrison" and asked what it was for and he said it was an outstanding payday loan, and that I could settle today to keep it out of court. I have never had a payday loan, and he said it was deposited into my account (gave me my acct #) on April 2008...I didn't even have the account then. Both men (I think are the same person) had a very heavy indian accent. Numbers given to call were 213-784-0667 & 213-784-4846 with a fax # of 213-596-5767. I knew it was a scam right off, and hope that other people reading this can benefit from it and not be scammed.
He said i owed a check cashing company money, and left a threatening message, and I talked to him and he said they were taking me to court. Did I want to settle this matter. I told him I owed nothing so I knew it was a scam. He knew my work cell# also and left a message. He said he was representing Cashnet
I was on vacation last week when a man with an indian accent started calling my cell phone over and over until, and left me a message saying if I didnt call back I could watch it unravel on me. I finally answered and asked him what it was regarding and got some info. he told me they were taking me to court monday and maybe I kept throwing the papers away that they sent me 9 times. I told him B/S I read my mail. And told him he was full of it, and he wasnt getting any money from me. I knew it was a scam. When he started raising his voice and kept calling me I cussed him out and he stopped calling. When I returned a got my work cell# he had left a voicemail there too. How they get your info I dont know, but its crazy. I saved his voicemail on my work phone. And im going to see if he called any relatives.
DOES ANYONE BOTHER TO READ???
Yes its a scam and its all over 800notes - under many different numbers.
AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER INTERNET COMPLAINT BOARDS
Several of us have already posted this scam - yet no one ever bothers to read THE INFORMATION THAT COULD HELP THEM!
ok now is same place or person call me and a friend of mine from hudson law firm and the officer name was steven smith that if i didnt call back that this promblem would unfold on me and he wishes me luck ....?
I've received the same phone call from "HUDSON LAW FIRM" and when I asked for the address, he said he could not give it to me but that it was in Los Angeles County, CA. I have saved 3 voicemails from the same individual and he has even called one of my friends telling her to tell me to call back...Should we call or let it go?
i got several calls from this no# saying that i owe a loan and that if i do not pay this money i will be locked up this man ray fleix has all
my bank info as well as my social securityno# what am i suspose to do ihave contact the company he says i owe money to and they told me it was a SCAM
got the same phone call from an indian accent man stating I owed them 637.00 and that we needed to contact our attorney regarding a debt that we so called owed to a cash advance company. Im turning them in to the better business bureau. also said to fax a letter that I didnt intentionally incurred this so called debt and to settle it out of court....BEWARE OF THIS SCAM!!!!!!!~
I got the same call, so did my mother. He threatened that the police were on their way to arrest me. Also, left a message similar for my mother. Used the same line about He hoped god helps me as this unfolds upon me. Kept using the last four digits of my social security number. Warned him not call. I have since contacted my State Attorney on this matter
I just received a call from this number at work and when I didn't answer, the caller called my daughter's cell phone. He said he was officer Paul Mckenzie and he too had an indian accent. Said he was with the Legal affidavit dept and it was a time sensitive matter. Advised if I din't return the call good luck as this unfolds on me.
i received a call from thi snumber at my work place on thursday june 11 and the man had an indian accent and said that i owed a company 695.00 and that they were going to file a lawsuit against me if i didnt pay him today his name was davisd slater he knew my social security and my debit and everything i called the company he said he was representing and they are going to go after them if they can track him down because he did draw money out of my account. so be very careful with that number what a terrible scam
I just recieved a call from this number bith work and cell. Same name Jacobs
I got the same call from this number with the same Indian accent he said he was from some Legal Liability?? not sure what that is and that I needed to call because my name and ss# had allegations against it. He said his name was Michael Jacobs, or I think that is what he said he was kinda difficult to understand. Has anyone figured out what it is all about?
I received a call from an indian guy as well. He said it was containing lawsuit. He said his name was Dennis Richie.
I had a phone call from this number same Indian accent about a debt and would not give me information and already had my information...threatened to put my social security number on the internet when I asked what that might be he gave me my ss#. Called my local police and now it is in there hands! The names i was given were a david and a danny and a ray???
What did you find out about this? I just received the exact phone call