214-245-1402
TX, US
Chris
Chris
2011-06-06 20:43:14
Unknown
I called this number again and they said they were the Financial Crime Division.
BIG RED
BIG RED
2011-06-06 20:43:14
Unknown
THEY HAVE BEEN CALL ING FROM SEVERAL NUMBERS USING NAME FRANK MILLER
OFFICER STEVE MARTIN ,CALVIN ANDERSON EVEN HAVE A LADY TO CALL YOU
ALSO FRAUD NAMES  ABOUT PAYDAY LOANS IF YOU TOOK ONE OUT FROM INTERNET  A REAL BAD SCAM HOPE THAT THEY GET CAUGHT
BIG RED
BIG RED
2011-06-06 20:43:14
Unknown
THEY HAVE BEEN CALL ING FROM SEVERAL NUMBERS USING NAME FRANK MILLER
OFFICER STEVE MARTIN ,CALVIN ANDERSON EVEN HAVE A LADY TO CALL YOU
ALSO FRAUD NAMES  ABOUT PAYDAY LOANS IF YOU TOOK ONE OUT FROM INTERNET  A REAL BAD SCAM HOPE THAT THEY GET CAUGHT
J
J
2011-06-06 20:43:14
Unknown
These people are crazy jerks. They call leaving threatening msg's such as
" be prepared to face the legal authorities and embarassing moments, may god help you " they even threaten to pass down your SSN.  Who do these people think they are?
Jes
Jes
2011-06-06 20:43:14
Unknown
called me 3 times, starting  6:30 AM...
spoke little english, and told me that he had important info about my "case"
there so called case and company are completly false.
I contacted an attorney, the FTC and Attorney General.. there scam is fraud!

They buy "call lists" for pennies on the dollar and are just looking to make a quick dollar!!!

Dont buy into there scam
Heatha
Heatha
2011-06-06 20:43:14
Unknown
My husband received a call at work from this number.  His name was patrcik Clogger and he told my husband there was a warrant fo rhis arrest.  I called this man very Indian accent and he told me that if we did not pay this money my husband would be arrested or they would send a team of investigators to his workplace or our home. They also wanted me to go to walmart and send a money gram.  I did not send any money and have filed a complaint with the FTC and the division of banks.  Good luck and do NOT SEND THEM MONEY!!!!
Chris
Chris
2011-06-06 20:43:14
Unknown
I got a call from these Indian scum bags telling me to contact their lawyers.  I hope someone catches these people.  They used names like Mark Davis and Annie.  Anyway my wife and I tied up their phone lines for at least 30 min.  Lol We pranked the hell out of them.  Pissed them off pretty good:)
i got screwed
i got screwed
2008-11-10 14:17:47
Unknown
back in august i had recieved a message from a don wilson and demanded i paid him 2000 on a 800 dollar loan he said i took out from 3 years ago which i did not recall or i was going to be arrested i was scared to death so stupid me went and borrowed money from my parents which they really didnt have and we paid it how stupid am i?
ec
ec
2008-08-21 16:45:33
Unknown
ABC News just did an investigative piece on this particular scam operation. Here's the report:  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1
Sherri
Sherri
2008-08-01 22:21:32
Debt Collector
These guys must change their phone numbers very often. I am so tired of getting called and threatened by them
Sherri
Sherri
2008-08-01 22:17:31
Unknown
I have gotten these same sorts of calls from a Don Wilson, Alex Cooper, and Roger Clarke claiming from a US National Bank, Financial Crimes Division threatening to take me to jail if I don't pay up. I have contacted the FTC ad Dept. of Consumer Affairs. Maybe if all those who are victimized contact these agencies, something can be done.
MAP
MAP
2008-07-12 01:20:35
Unknown
Frank Miller called me today and threatened to have me arrested at work or at home, and put me in jail.  He asked if I had someone I could call to get money (stupid me .. I was desperate and did a payday loan in 2004).  Well, after reading so many postings about "Frank Miller" and his cohorts, I feel better.  I'm going to pay up, but not to these people.  I've already filed a complaint with the FTC.
ec
ec
2008-06-20 17:36:46
Unknown
Update:

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com    
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone who are posing as federal law enforcement. Be sure to give as many details as you can.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
Annoyed
Annoyed
2008-06-05 20:52:42
Debt Collector
Obviously this number is a scam. They called about an employee who hasn't worked for our company for years. Something needs to be done to punish the company who sold/leaked/leased people's information to the scammers. That's ridiculous!
ec
ec
2008-06-05 17:37:34
Unknown
It's a scam; be sure not to pay them anything.

There is no "Financial Crime Division" or "National Crime Division". This is the same group of foreign scammers who use caller ID spoofing software or VoIP to disguise where they're really located. They also use many other fake names such as US National Bank, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office and Morgan Associates, just to name a few.  One thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) have the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) These same scammers also routinely impersonate bankers, lawyers, FBI agents, police and other law enforcement officials, which, obviously, is illegal as well. (Besides, law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection, and debt is a civil matter, not criminal.)

The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money. I suggest you do all the following (most of which you can do online):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone and give them all the details.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

Hope this helps.
PKC
PKC
2008-06-05 17:30:11
Unknown
Same here...they keep calling and threatening to arrest us. For what I have no idea, as they have such a heavy accent, I can't understand much of what they say. He claims to be Charles Gibson, but is DEFINATELY not an American person on the phone. Calls constantly. I think they must have gotten our numbers somewhere, as they have my ssn and my husband's name. They seem to think my ssn is his. I am going to try to report this, but don't know who to report it too.
ec
ec
2008-06-04 18:46:48
Unknown
See my message above from May 28 for more information.
Marvella
Marvella
2008-06-04 15:06:54
Debt Collector
I received a phone call at work stating this a state/fed issue from a Mary Anderson.  Not sure how they received my work number.  I called back and they don't address the company name when I ask.  To me this is fraud.  How do we stop these people from calling?  I think I'm going to call and tell them this is the police dept and state that they are making calls to people that have paid their debt.
ec
ec
2008-05-29 21:14:09
Unknown
Be sure to save those voicemails and, if you can, record your conversations with her. Those voicemails and recorded conversations come in very handy when it comes to prosecuting these crooks.

By the way, you may want to contact consumer credit advocate Bud Hibbs and tell him about this. I'm sure he can offer some helpful advice. Go to his website, BudHibbs.com, and his email address is there.

You're doing the right thing by pursuing these creeps. If more victims of this scam did that, the criminals would be out of business.
LainieLu
LainieLu
2008-05-29 19:55:58
Unknown
Sounds like you were scammed bigtime. You really really really need to google BUD HIBBS and read up on your rights.
shi
shi
2008-05-29 19:50:23
Unknown
i had my friend to call and ask for Kathryn. "Mary" kept acting like she couldnt hear her. then my friend asked what was the name of this business. Mary again pretended she couldnt hear by saying "hello" numerous times. then she hung up. we tried to call back but no one answered.
Not really sure if Kathryn and Mary are one in the same. and if not then i am not sure how to contact Kathryn since "MARY" is using her number. i received Kathryn's home address fromt he trace i did plus family members names.
yesterday afternoon i called Mary b/c she said earlier that morning that she would call in half an hour to give me my confirmation number. i had already researched by then and knew it was then a scam (after i stupidly gave up my money). Funny how she answered with a non accent. when i told her who i was and that i didnt receive my confir#, she tried to slip back into the accent. said she hadnt received confirm. yet.  She called me here at work this morning but i didnt answer. she left a voicemail giving me the # plus told me my balance was $300. yesterday she my total pyment was $885.55. i paid half. and that doesnt leave $300.
i'm tempted to call to let her know that i know exactly who she is, where she is and that the authorities are on her trail. i really wanna bust this lady!!
ec
ec
2008-05-29 17:16:08
Unknown
By the way, I remember another similar situation last year where scammers appeared to be calling from New Jersey. But when someone reverse searched the NJ number, it turned out to be the home of a very elderly couple. The scammers, apparently, had used caller id spoofing.  Just something to keep in mind. Good luck.
ec
ec
2008-05-29 17:11:34
Unknown
Can't be sure of it...it's possible the scammers just used Caller ID spoofing software to display a number that doesn't belong to them. But, if I were you, I would call Kathryn and inquire about it.  And if it turns out that someone falsely used her number, I'm sure she'd like to know about it.
shi
shi
2008-05-29 15:06:54
Unknown
i traced this number(214-245-1402) and the name i received was Kathryn Skinner, Carrolton TX. can i be sure that Kathryn is "Mary Anderson"?
ec
ec
2008-05-29 01:29:06
Unknown
It's a Dallas, TX number that's unlisted. (You can run reverse phone searches on WhitePages.com) But they're not calling from Dallas. They're either using Caller ID spoofing software or, more likely, they're using VoIP technology. Some VoIP services allow the caller to acquire a phone number in just about any area code without being physically located in that area code.

In other words, these scammers could place their calls over the Internet from, say, the Dominican Republic but the call shows up on your caller ID as a Dallas, TX phone number.

Since these calls are coming from scammers outside the U.S. (and they may have American accomplices), it's important to alert law enforcement -- especially the Secret Service and the FBI.
shi
shi
2008-05-28 22:48:30
Unknown
has anyone ever researched the number?
ec
ec
2008-05-28 15:35:01
Unknown
It might be difficult to get your money back.  At the very least, be sure to cancel whatever accounts to which you gave them access, and report them to the all the law enforcement links above.

As for getting your money back, you probably should consult a consumer law professional. Many such attorneys work on contigency, so don't worry about not being able to afford their help. Here are links to just a few such law firms and consumer rights organizations:

http://www.naca.net/debt-collection-abuse/
http://www.fairdebtlawyers.com/
http://www.myfairdebt.com/
http://attorneysforconsumers.com/
http://www.westcoastlitigation.com/
http://www.theadvocateslaw.com/
http://www.consumercounselgroup.com/
http://www.budhibbs.com/First.htm
http://www.creditlawnetwork.com/
shi
shi
2008-05-28 15:23:52
Unknown
so i wont be able to get my money back?

thanks for that very helpful information.
ec
ec
2008-05-28 14:54:45
Unknown
By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern again and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded false threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that they're laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
to shi
to shi
2008-05-28 14:45:49
Unknown
no you cannot be arrested --if they are truley debt collectors they will need to send you a validation letter to outline the debt which should provide you with name of creditor, date of service and the total amount owed
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