I got a call from the same number. It was an Indian man. He called my work and cell number and had personal information on me. He was belligerent and said that he was an attorney and that I owed money for a loan. I DO NOT have a loan. He wanted $20,000.00 to ay the debt. I believe he got information on me from an online payday loan. Have you ever applied for one? DO NOT call him back it is a scam. DO NOT give out any information. He called me back every 2 minutes for almost an hour. I even had my boss get on the phone. He would never tell me the debt. He is now calling my cell number. I do not know what to do now.
Got the same call. Can hardly understand message. Says his name is Kevin Jones and that me or my attorney must call him. The rest of the message is exactly as you state above. Is there someone we can call to have this man stop. It is annoying? The actual number that showed up when he called was (810) 676-161 - obviously missing the last number. But then the number to call back is the 215 number.
I got the SAME thing!! Who is this man and why is he calling my work?? I could loose my job as he was nasty with the receptionist and was telling her that he knows me!!
They Keep calling me, I told them to send the police. tried to get information and all that, read off a birthday I said that not my Birthday read off a bank account number I did not confirm anything then he got mad. So I got loud with him and then I hung up on him. They have call me twice since I have bee home tonight.
I got the samething, I got 2 vmails and checked them after work, I called back and the line was off????. Totally weird, I talked to him today and he was askin about my attorneys info and was sayin all he could do was wish me good luck. i took that as a complete threat, and that was his biggest mistake. i hung up the phone before I had to hurt his feelings.
On Wednesday September 2, 2009 I received a phone call on my job from a spanish accent (very broken english) man name Daniel Martinez. He stated that I owed a payday loan that came to the total $769.44, and that I along with my brother and daughter (mind you he had their first names)had to go to court and if I did the total charge against me would be $6,000, that includes the $769.44 and lawyer and court charges, and he would tell my job about this and if I had any warrants on me I could be arrested (even from my job). He said he was going to file the charges tomorrow (9-3-09) in court and I would recieve a court letter. I was in shock, so I asked who it was filing these charges against me the phone disconnected. Oh I was upset. So I called that number back when I arrived at my home. When I called an english speaking male answered. I asked for this Daniel Martinez, and asked me who like he didn't recognize the name, then finally he had and accent telling he was transferring me to this Daniel Martinez. I asked D.M. who was filing charges against me he got upset and still in broken english (with a nasty tone) told me his firm (A Law Firm working under the Federal Legislation) had thousands of loan companies they work with and he could not come up with the company that was filing charges against me, I would find out if I went to court. I asked him what was the total out of court settlement, he put me on hold and the phone disconnected. I called back and he tells me that I could borrow money from my brother, daughter or relatives in the sum of $269.04, and pay the balance of $500 on my payday, just put the money into my bank account. But first his supervisor would make me write a letter of appeal (with him telling me whatwords to write)in which I told him he or his supervisor was not going to make me do anything. He had stated that I could fax him after I write this letter of appeal and have it notorized today and fax it to his fax number of 1-858-435-7639 and he would call me back with instructions on sending the $269.04. Well I told him I was going to wait for the letter of my court date to arrive and I would take my chances in court with the judge. He raised his voice again asking me what letter (mind you he forgot he had told me about the letter with the court date and time)and I raised mine and told him see your a** in court.
Guy called me today at claim to be an attourny in CA. and said that there was a lawsuit filed againist me that I had to pay 622.36 or if it went to court over 5000.00 I then called this evening to find out who they are and all they would do is ask me for my name I told them they did not need to know it I also found out that the 215-279-5915 is a cell phone in Phill. PA on Market ST. The guy later told me that he would kidnape me and hurt me and called me a b***h. I told them that what they are doing is nothing more than a scam andd asked to speak with a boss he told me that the boss was in jail. don't pay them a dime.
I talked to "Daniel" Senior litigator today from this # and he said he was with "Federal Legislation of Unsecured Debt" and I had been charged with violation of federal law, check fraud, etc. I pushed and pushed until he said the debt was a payday loan and the loan company was not able to get their money from my bank account so I would be taken to court. He had my SSN, bank acct #, EVERYTHING you have to submit when you apply for a payday loan, including my personal references, who he said would need to go to court with me to pay my bail!!!! I ketp telling him he needed to send all of this to me in writing as I have paid off any loans I have ever taken out and he would say "Of course but what I'm calling to tell you is that this will cost you over $6000 if it goes to court or you can settle for $463 now". I again told him to send this information in writing to my home address and I would have my attorney address it. They are totally full of crap. I found a site where the Atty General of West Virginia has gotten involved as this is apparently a HUGE scam. I called his office today and was told that I need to report this to the attorney general of my state (I'm in Tennessee).
today this guy called himself tom graves called me again about the money that I own to a thing that I have no idea what he is talking about.This guy got my personal information about me.I just hope that this guy gets cought big time.The date that this guy called was on 9/9/9
I just received the same call. Said I had a legal suit against me. What did you do. they had personal information.
I have received about 20 calls in the last 2 weeks from a man named David Richards...who has a VERY strong indian accent. I did not return the call and then he started calling my work....over the weekend he called my work 3 times and left VM each time with the same message this is very urgent that you get back with me...and went on to say that I owed money and I had a court date in CA and that he needed my attorney to contact them and if he didn't then the only thing he could do was wish m luck as the circumstances unfold on me and then he said do not diregard this message, do return the call today....goodbye and may God bless you. Ok, I have to be honest, I have taken out pay day loans but they all have been paid back so I am not sure what this is all about. I told them I do not live in CA so I will not be at my court date and he told me with a laugh that is fine then you will be arrested in your state within 3 hours of the court hearing. I asked several times if they could fax this information that they were reading to me and he said no that they could not do that and I said that I could not understand him and I needed an english speaking person and I was transferred to 3 different people who said the same thing and got even more sarcastic and rude each time. I have never received anything in the mail from them and I have never received anything through email like they said they sent it to me.....I am goin to call them back and get to the bottom of this and I will make sure that they are caught and all cash advance websites and businesses are shut down for good and while I am at it I am going to make sure that we have english speaking call center people and not indian or spanish or whatever else nationality trying to scam people.....they need to stay where they come from and get out of the US.
I have received the exact same call. The guy was Indian and told me that I was being sued and needed to get a criminal attorney. He knew my mothers name and said the police would be contacting her. He said I owed for some payday loan. The thing is I do have and know an attorney and gave all their information to. They said this guy is completely giving out bad information. They are going to contact them and find out who they are and what this is all about. I will let you guys know if I find out.
Recieved a phone call that was an apparant overseas number... 810676161 thought it was a friend in Iraq. I was shocked when a Hindu man with my last four of my social security number telling me to hang on because I am pending charges was on the other end. He gave me the 215-279- 5922 number to have an attorney call him back. I am a police officer, when I began questioning him about how he had my info,(name, full social security number, address, work info, bank account number) he was quick to say he was an attorney. I asked for his Bar number, which turned out to be invalid. I asked for a case number, which both states, mine and "his" (I am certain he is in a call center in India due to the background noise and his inability to introduce himself when called by an Investigator) did not have the case number. Again, he claimed it was a payday loan, which I haven't had since 1999, from last Nov. I rechecked my account, that he had the number for, and there was nothing. I am filing a report to cover my rearend just in case he uses my information fraudulently again, but as far as catching him, that's up to the feds. If he calls you, tell him he's a fraud and he'll get angry and hang up. After all, how dare you question him? LOL
This person must be stopped...A person by the name of Janny said that if I did not pay a loan in the amount of 686.00 that they would have investigators come to my job and walk me out of my office and I would go to jail. Then I would have to be arrained in court the following day. I am 7 months pregnant and I was scared. I told them that I did not have any money in my account. which i dont. I only have 25.00. But I my mistake was that i gave them my personal information. I immediately went to a freind and her boyfriend stated that it may be a trick to get my money. so we did a search for the number and I found this site....I went immediately to the bank and froze my account. The number was 2152795915. Can someone please tell me who I can contact to inform them of this fraud?
I posted on September 2nd about the calls I had been recieving. I am still recieving calls. I no longer get them at work because I told them that "She doesn't work here anymore". As of yesterday I haven't recieved any on my cell phone because of my response to him,"no se, No habla english, habla espanol? Senor, no habla English!!!!!! No comprende english!!!!. I don't know spanish except for those words so I just kept saying that. He was getting angry and I just kept getting louder. It was so funny. Allison, The calls I have been recieving are word for word the same thing as yours. Each call I recieved the man sounded like he was reading a script. I recognize the number now so if I get I call I answer. Hola, como estes. HaHa
HE WAS THE RUDEST MAN, TRYING TO BE NICE BY SAYING GOD BLESS- BUT HE RUINED MY LABOR DAY WEEKEND, SAYING I WOULD HAVE A WARRANT FOR MY ARREST THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY. HE HAS CALLED TWICE. I CALLED THE POLICE AND THEY SAID IF HE CALLS AGAIN TO CALL THEM AND THEY CAN TRACE THE CALL. HE CALLED MY HOME AND MY CELL AND TOLD ME MY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND MY FAMILY MEMBERS NAMES. SO SCARY, I AM A SINGLE MOM WITH THREE KIDS WHO EXPECTED ME TO TAKE THEM TO A FOOTBALL GAME THAT NIGHT AND THIS GUY RUINED IT FOR ME TO THE POINT OF TEARS.. IN FRONT OF MY KIDS NO LESS. I HOPE THESE PEOPLE ARE CAUGHT AND HANDLED WITH A HARSH SENTENCE. GA
I had the same phone call at my work number. He has also called me on my house phone. He says his name is Daniel Martinez. He says I am going to be put in jail and that I owe right now 694.00 and if I do not pay it by tomorrow then I will owe over 6000.00 in court cost and all. My mother works for an attorney and my attorney called him today and he told him to fax the attorneys office showing what I owe and he said no that they would have to take his word on it. He has all of my personal information and also told me that he was going to call my employer and tell them so I would lose my job. Come one big guy do what you want, I dont owe anything to YOU....This scam needs to stop now. If he calls again my lawyer is going to have him arrested along with my family because several in my family are in law enforcement....
I and my son recieved a call from a supposed attorney Alexander Davenpoprt with heavy Indian (Eastern)...who also mentioned a John Hutchinson. The number was 1(706) 282 0260. The fax # he gave me was 1(866) 901- 2387. Stated he was in California and that my son had a court case against him in California in Superior Court...Gave a case# CRS________. Wanted a notarized letter of payment and a copy of my card with exp date , signature, code. I called cancelled my card after looking up the name and seeing the similarities. Will alert authorities.
don't let these guys scare you. they are scam artist to the highest heights. next time they call you ask them for the original debtors name and phone number. tell them you want to speak with the company first before you give them any information. mind you, sometimes they give out false numbers and false names to the consumer. tell them you'll call them back after you confirm with the original debtor, then see what they say. if the caller refuse or yells at you for asking, then you know it's a scam. i am not an attorney, but i do know a few things. first and foremost a bill that you might owe is a civil matter. no debt collector can have you arrested for owing a debt. of course a debt collector or an attorney firm working on behalf of a business can file suit against you. however, they would have to go through proper channels to do so. and this takes time. believe me when i tell you even in civil court, sometimes it costs the company you owe a lot of money to file a suit against you. and this would be only as a last resort for them. so don't let these people scare you and remember to file this grievance with you local BBB or the FTC. lets get these b*****ds.
these guys are sick. and need to be stopped. they've called me and my husband several times this month. always the same spew....please do not disregard the call...as soon as you get this message call us back. etc, etc, etc. and they always end the message with god bless. when i finally did call someone back i was told that i was going to be arrested because of charges that were being filed against me. they said they were going to down load this information that day. and if i didn't pay them within 24 hours i would
have to appear in court on monday. i said, pay you for what? a payday loan you defaulted on they said. i said you are crazy and don't i have to have this in writing or some documentation from the original debtor before you can do what you are saying. to make a long story short, i finally told them to go screw themselves. no debt collection agency can have you arrested for owing someone. this is a civil matter. my husband is a law enforcement officer, and he just told me to ignore them.
trying to scam money and said the are putting charges against me and threating me
This man who called himself Jack Johnson called my moms cell, left message making it seem as if it was extremely important she called back. The guy, who speaks bad English wants her or her attorney to call him back. And if they didn't the only thing he can do for her is wish her good luck and May God bless her. He then called my mother at her work, and asked her if she was ready to be briefed. She said if this is a personal matter it can wait until she is not at work but would not say why he was calling. He even knew the last 4 numbers of her social security and her full name. And said he would contact her employer and garnish her wages, but wouldn't tell her why if she didnt agree to be briefed.
I then called the number trying to figure out who these ppl were. The first time I (They only answered w/Hello never the name of there organization) called and said the number was on my caller ID and I wanted to know the name of the organization. He then said he couldn't brief me at this time and hung up on me. This was the same man who left the msg on my moms machine. I called back a second time and a women answered, w/ an accent that sounded not of American. I said I wanted to know what agency she was w/. She said she cound't tell me unless I gave her my name. I asked repeatedly tell me who u r with. She said a Law firm. I asked to speak with her manager/supervisor. She said she was some kinda Attorney. After having to submit and give her a fake name is when she said the name of the Firm, which I forgot, and said that they specialize w/ something about the legislative sumtin sumtin loan.
So I decided I was going to call back and call their bluff. I said I found out who you were and I have all ready reported them and they were going down. The man who claims to be Jack Johnson begged for my name, and when I said it was "YOUR SCREWED" He said repetitively " I'll F*CK like any H*e"
REPORT! REPORT! REPORT!
DONT FALL FOR THERE SCAM!
I got a call from this number stating his name was Kevin Anderson, it sounded like that u can barely understand anything he was saying, he had told me he was a an Attorney that i was wanted for fraud and money laundering and that i was going to prison, and also better get an attorney and i did, but i haven't heard from them since.
This scam has been going on for well over a year, now and has been recognized as such by the BBB:
Chicago, IL ? August 5, 2009 ? The Better Business Bureau is issuing an alert about phony debt collectors that are calling consumers nationwide and claiming that they have defaulted on a payday loan and will be arrested if they don?t pay immediately. Claiming to be lawyers, the scammers say they are with the ?Financial Accountability Association? or the ?Federal Legislation of Unsecured Loans? and are equipped with a disconcerting amount of personal information about their potential victims.
?Because the scammers have so much information about potential victims, the BBB is concerned that this may be the result of a data breach,? said Steve J. Bernas, president & CEO of the Better Business Bureau serving Chicago and Northern Illinois. ?Thousands of people may have had their personal information compromised, and given the scammers? tactics, it appears that those who have previously used payday loan services could be particularly at risk.?
According to reports received by the BBB and posted online, the scammers accuse the victim of defaulting on a payday loan and claim they are being sued. The phony debt collector threatens that, if the victim doesn?t pay as much as $1,000 immediately via wire or by providing bank account or credit card numbers, he or she will be arrested and extradited to California within the hour to stand trial. The scammers often may have the victim?s Social Security, old bank account numbers or driver?s license numbers as well as home addresses, employer information and even the names of personal friends and professional references.
The BBB offers the following advice to consumers if they receive a suspicious telephone call about an outstanding debt:
* Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation in writing which substantiates the debt.
* Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call.
* Review recent copies of your credit reports to ensure that the alleged debt is not affecting your credit. Consumers can do this for free once every 12 months, and can find more information here: http://www.ftc.gov/freereports
* Under the Federal Trade Commission's Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, debt collectors may not harass, oppress, or abuse any person while attempting to collect a debt.
* A debtor may be contacted between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. only and can be contacted at work unless instructed not to.
* File a complaint with the FTC online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws.
* File a complaint with BBB online at www.bbb.org if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.
This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more. These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection. (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank. Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.
If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
1) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement, lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, or if they threatened you with arrest, be sure to include that information in your report.
2) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone. Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
4) The caller placed the call under a Texas area code. Even though the caller ID was probably spoofed or they're using VoIP technology to hide the fact that they're really calling from overseas, you should also file a complaint with the Texas Attorney General at http://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/complain.shtml
5) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org
6) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)
By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:
anybody that has this done needs to make a police report and close your bank accounts this came from the FBI and i made a report with them
i got the same s*** and i went to my courts and the are pushing the issue
Guy called me today at claim to be an attourny in CA. and said that there was a lawsuit filed againist me that I had to pay 622.36 or if it went to court over 5000.00 I then called this evening to find out who they are and all they would do is ask me for my name I told them they did not need to know it I also found out that the 215-279-5915 is a cell phone in Phill. PA on Market ST. The guy later told me that he would kidnape me and hurt me and called me a bi***. I told them that what they are doing is nothing more than a scam andd asked to speak with a boss he told me that the boss was in jail. don't pay them a dime.
I got this call and he is saying his name is Ben Johnson an attorney from California saying that I have received a Deposit in my accountand which I have not. he is saying I have to pay 783.00 By tommorrow or a Legal team will come to my work from califonia to the east coast to serve me papers. I have Ben Johnson of me doing so but continues to call. How stupid can you be?? His caller Id say 810676161 Which is an invalid number and he is telling me to call him back at 215-279-5915. He says he is in california but the number traces back to a cell phone out of PA.. He says he is with the company Financial Account Association. I googled the number and it doesnt come up.