321-422-7598
FL, US
mj
mj
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
This guy is a total moron. He left a threatening message on my phone for some named BARAK WILLIAMS. Claims he's an "officer" and to contact his "division". What a loser. Second time he's done this b*llsh*t. I let him have it. Let him know what I think he does  w/his mother, if you catch my drift,  plus a few other choice comments. Calls me again, he'll be hearing from my lawyer. Jerk.  REPORT HIM TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU! Do not let them get away with this!!
Anton
Anton
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
When the machine picked up caller hung up.
Madison
Madison
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
yea he called my phone from that number a couple  times and i just wanna answer it swearing @ him
madison
madison
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
yea ik he called my fone and i was  all confused because im only 12 and i know that i dont owe any money and he was being such a butt head
Barak Williams
Barak Williams
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
WHO THE F*** USES MY NAME?????? HUH am in AFRICA what the f*** is wrong in your bloody countries b***hes huh??
Barak Williams
Barak Williams
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
Dudes am in Uganda and I have never called a fellor. WHO THE F*** USES MY NAME?>? HUH???
ktp
ktp
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
they also call me from 904-263-5311 numbertoo! i looked it up and it was a cell number
cp
cp
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
Danny Foster keep calling me at work threatening to have me arrested. I called from a fake number and gave him a fake name and apparently my fake person owes them money to!
mj
mj
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
The # he called me from was 321-527-2503.
Green4Guns
Green4Guns
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
I also just received a call from Danny Foster. He had a heavy Indian accent and a 321 area code. It sounded like a call center. He stated that the police were waiting to arrest me and good luck in jail. I called back and asked him what I owed because he did not identify anything...what I owed, the company et cetera. He said pay the court after you are arrested. This is harassment and/or spammers.
joyce
joyce
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
What happened?  I just received the same call.
yanna
yanna
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
rcv a call from a danny foster stating that i was going to be arrested if i didnt pay him some money from a payday loan 321 527 2503 he was very very rude
yanna
yanna
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
rcv a call from a danny foster stating that i was going to be arrested if i didnt pay him some money from a payday loan 321 527 2503 he was very very rude
Lynn
Lynn
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
I got several calls from some guy stating his name is Officer Danny Foster. When I told him he had the wrong number, he preceeded to give me some incorrect address saying that is where I live and I insisted he had the wrong person, he threaten me with being arrested and that I better have a very good attorney.  This guy had a very heavy accent and was extremely rude.
Tina
Tina
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
This idiot called me at work. Claiming to be "officer Danny Foster.  He had the last 4 of my social and my dob.  Said I owed some internet payday loan.  He told me I would lose my job and be arrested that day if I did not pay him with a debit card that day.  These people are sick!
David
David
2011-06-06 20:46:11
Unknown
Person claiming to be "Danny Foster" claims he was a polce officer coming to pick up employee unless she made arrangements to pay her debt. Call appears to originate from Winter Park, Fl.
Debra Carter
Debra Carter
2011-01-03 17:40:45
Unknown
I called WHAGTV NEWS and had them run this story on phone scams and they interviewed me because this Officer Danny Foster called me as well right after Christmas and tried to get money.They aired the news footage on WHAGTV NEWS channel 12 in Hagerstown,MD on DEC.31,2010 on the 5pm,5:30pm and 6pm and 7pm and 11pm NEWS and if you want to see it ,it's on www.your4state.com ..on the front just scroll thru the videos for 12/31/2010 and look for phone scams/email scamers and you will see it
Debra Carter
Debra Carter
2010-12-31 13:53:51
Unknown
The officer Danny Foster called me back later that night and of course this time his number said unknown and he left a message on my voicemail saying Debra the police are comming
The Saint
The Saint
2010-12-30 23:14:14
Unknown
Kudos to "Sam" for giving the most intelligent and informative posts of 2010 on this scam. READ, Bookmark and use as needed:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-631-456-4041/2

I have been receiving phone calls from this group since late April / early May of 2010.  There is a good chance that they also attempted to contact me roughly two years ago before I entered into Chapter 7 Bankruptcy protection, as I faintly remember hearing the same script more or less.

As others have stated, the callers are difficult to understand.  Generally speaking their command of the English language is quite poor and their accents are hard to follow. At times they will get certain words or phrases mixed up.  It would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that they had:

a) Your SSN
b) Your home address
c) Your work address
d) Your banking info
e) Names, numbers and potentially the addresses of "references"
f) A complete and total lack of ethics and a basic understanding of the FDCPA.  

I have personally filed reports with the following agencies, often with limited (if any) success:

Local Police
my state's Attorney General's office
FTC
FBI
Secret Service

Generally the local police won't be able to help much.  The callers are using a combination of prepaid cell phones and VoIP, making them difficult to trace.  Also at their disposal are various spoofing tactics being implemented to catch people off guard - meaning the number that appears on your Caller ID isn't the number that is calling you for starters.  Without gaining a subpoena for the billing information for the numbers in question, the local police won't be able to get very far.  

My state's Attorney General's office couldn't offer much assistance either.  I received a form letter in the mail that my complaint was received and I would be contacted if they needed additional info.  It was more or less the same information I obtained from the FTC.  They each advised me not to give the individuals over the phone any account information or to authorize payment.  That's just common sense, though.

I never got anything from the FBI, either.  There is a good chance that since I haven't suffered a monetary loss that my concerns are low on the totem pole.  I hate to say this, but that is truly the case. Unless you were in the hole for a $1,000 (or more) you aren't going to get much more than "sorry to hear about your situation, change your phone number and move on".  I seemed to get some activity from the Secret Service.  I spoke with agent Doug Zloto. (Google him, referencing threads like these plus his name and you'll find his number also)  He seemed to care a bit more than the average person, but after giving him access to my Google Voice account, there has been no further activity from him that I'm aware of.

In the meantime I changed the wireless number the fraudsters had access to, they have no direct way to get a hold of me.  (Calls at work have ceased for some reason)  That in turn resulted in my "references" getting phone calls from the crooks.  Here is a word of caution for women that have been getting these calls - don't say anything and just hang up.  The callers are quite abusive towards women callers.  Why?  Possibly the culture.  If they are Indian / Pakistani, women are second class citizens there.  You will be treated like garbage.  This happened to a family member when she was trying her best to be extremely nice over the phone.  

The callers currently attempt to reach me through the female family member and an unused Google Voice number that they managed to find of mine.  I keep the Google Voice number open because, well, I can't delete it yet.  So, about every day, 4-5 times a day for the last week, I get voice messages from them.  It's usually just two full messages though - the other calls are broken up with static or they are attempts to read the script until the callers then screw up.  Really, they are that adamant on getting the script 100% that they will hang up mid-sentence and call back 30 seconds later.  

At this point it's a stalemate with these people.  

1) While they have the lion's share of information on us, they can't really do anything with this information.  

Why?  Think about it.

If they were to ever take funds out of your account without authorization, it's fraud and worse (for them) it is traceable.  That's why they won't do anything with your information, contrary to threats they make.  The money from your account has to go somewhere, and either your bank or a law enforcement agency can determine where the money was routed.  As a bank customer you are protected - you'd get the stolen money back in your account after 7-10 business days and the bank would be temporarily out the funds deducted from your account while they conducted their investigation.  The bank, along with law enforcement, would track down the fraudsters and apprehend them.  The fraudsters do not want to incur the wrath of a bank, just extort money out of you.  Remember that.    

Your authorization would absolve the bank from any and all liability, leaving you holding the bag.  Never give them authorization for anything - for all you know the call is recorded.  

2) We have no information on them.

Seriously, this has been going on at least since 2008, possibly longer than that based on some accounts. (6 years??? Holy crap!)  You would think someone would have slipped up by now.  Sadly, they haven't.  We can continue to grow our own intel on them and compile lists of aliases and phone numbers used, along with paraphrases of scripts used in order to educate other victims.  I'm actually putting together a site now in the meantime where I'll host audio files and lists of previous numbers used.  800notes.com is great, but no two calls are exactly the same.  It would be nice to have a site dedicated to the scam and how it works.

So that's where I am with these calls.  I have suffered no monetary loss, though I have been harassed both at home and at work.  They threaten me with arrest and other "fun" things in order to get me convinced I have to pay them.  My friends and family have been targeted and local and federal law enforcement agencies haven't been able to put a stop to things.  So, it is what it is.  I am out a wireless phone number I had for roughly six years, which is terrible since I was using that line when looking for a new job.  

Whenever I'm bored I spoof my number using Google Voice and return the calls.  I've called them the poster children for birth control, etc.  Basically a lot of nasty things that I'm sure the moderators here wouldn't appreciate me repeating - bottom line nothing nice.  I always like to close saying their parents must be real proud knowing their sons weren't man enough to get real jobs.  That usually gets a decent response.  

Way I see it - they can't do anything to me. (Despite a threat yesterday that my life would be f'ed up)  They can threaten all they want but my credit is frozen and my bank information has changed.  I've changed the only number they could really access me directly on and I've instructed my employer and family to not answer the calls.  I just call and harass them now when I find a few extra seconds.  What's the worst they can do to me?  Charge me with harassment?  

Nope, then they would have to identify themselves.

Oh, and don't bother contacting Cashnet USA about the calls.  Their "fraud" department could honestly care less.  Their "investigation" is merely a means of buerocratic CYA.  I would even be surprised at this point if actual law enforcement is involved in any shape, way or form at this time.  

There is a good chance that the information these crooks have on us was obtained from Cashnet USA - either from a database leak or from a collector that was once authorized by Cashnet to call on delinquent customers.  The other chance is they have access to Teletrack, and pulled all of our information off of there.

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143/3

For at least the last four years, possibly longer, a group has been calling former payday loan applicants advising them that they have defrauded a bank and are now being sued for non-payment of a loan.  The callers will claim to be calling on behalf of an attorney's office (name varies), the Dept. of Law and Investigation, ACS, or other similar combinations below:

United Legal Processing Division
Midline Marketing
Crime Monitoring Services
Monetary Crime Division
U.S. National Bank
Attorney General?s Office (usually in California)
American Legal Services
Affidavit Consolidation Services (ACS)

You will be threatened with arrest, a costly trial and possibly worse.  In no shape, way or form can you be arrested for non-payment on a consumer debt.  Do not believe these threats, as they are without merit and cannot be carried out in the manner they allege.  

Who are they?

In the past when pressed by law enforcement for an address, the callers have provided the following information:

David Morgan and Associates
Morgan & Associates
Morgan Associates
954-727-8481
1155 Northwest 85th Street
Wintergarden, Florida  33150
(Address is likely invalid)

The collector's MO matches a once legit collections agency called Ellis Crosby & Associates.  Here are some links on them:

http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/ellis_crosby_and_associates.htm
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/EllisCrosbyJudgment.pdf

They have been previously fined over $1.3 million for various violations.  They have been known to use phone banks in India to make their calls, which more or less coincides with the difficult to understand accent many of us detect when we are contacted.  

The last time this group went by any "official" name was back in 2008:

Ellis Crosby & Associates / Douglas & Morgan Associates
4494 Southside Boulevard Suite #200
Jacksonville Florida 32216
Phone:  800-928-3536 / (904) 928-3536
(Address is likely invalid)

There are NUMEROUS consumer alerts out against this group of individuals:

Florida:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/061107/met_176207561.shtml

Kansas:  
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html

Colorado:  
http://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/ ... lls_likely_orig

Rhode Island:  
http://www.collectionscreditrisk.com/news/rho ... -3002135-1.html

West Virginia:
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm

Missouri:
On July 15th, 2010 a Public Awareness Bulletin was sent out by Missouri Information Analysis Center.  

"..received reports from individuals in Ohio and Illinois reference suspicious telephone calls they received. In both instances, the callers are reporting that a voicemail is received from a man, with a Middle Eastern accent, identifying himself as an officer working with the Financial Crimes Unit.  The message indicates that the reason for the call concerns a loan made by the receiver or someone in the receiver's family. The voicemail requests that a return call be made and a telephone number is provided. When a return call is made, the caller is asked to provide personal identifying information such as their date of birth and social security number.

Reports indicate that the calls are frequent and persistent and that they even threaten arrest or legal action if information or money is not provided. It appears that the individuals making these calls may have access to some records connecting individuals and their relatives.  Missouri does not have a Financial Crimes Unit and all indications are that this is a fictitious agency. If you receive a similar phone call, please be advised that it is a scam and please contact your local law enforcement agency or the Missouri Information Analysis Center at 866-362-6422."

Bottom line:

Do not supply the callers with any additional information.  Inform them you have reported them to law enforcement and hang up.  If you haven't already, go ahead and report the calls to local law enforcement, your state's Attorney General and beyond.  Look up the local Secret Service branch's information in your area and get in contact with an agent there.  

If you ever applied for a cash advance online, your information is out there.  
Possible sources for the breach of your privacy are:

* The scammers obtained your information from Teletrack - a reporting agency used by many cash advance lenders to determine their risk lending to you.  The service is able to tell cash advance lenders if you have existing loans with other companies, for example.  Many state laws prohibit borrowers from having more than two cash advances out at the same time.

* The scammers created their own fake payday loan application site.  People looking for a cash advance went to the site and applied, thus freely providing the scammers with their information for malicious use at a later time.  

* The scammers were able to get into the database(s) of cash advance lenders - probable targets being Sonic Payday and Cashnet USA.  


How to protect yourself:

* Inform your employer.  You are likely getting calls at home and/or at work, so make sure your employer is aware the calls are part of a scam and to not take them seriously.  Advise the callers that they are no longer allowed to call you at work.  If they continue to call, document the date and time of the calls you received.  Save voice mails left if at all possible.  

* Change your number(s).  For some this may not be an option, for others a one-time number change can be done free of charge.

Be advised - any references you listed on your payday loan application will be contacted.  Let those people know that this is a scam, and they can disregard.

* Use Google Voice.  Google Voice is a great replacement voice mail system for just about any phone number you use.  Messages can be transcribed and voice mail recordings can be saved as mp3 files.  

Pro Tip - call the scammers with a Google Voice number before turning off your old phone numbers.  Make sure when you call you identify yourself so they can start up their script.  At any point after they have your information pulled up just hang up.  They will then start religiously calling your Google Voice number.  At this point, you are free to change your regular phone number(s) and enjoy not having these people ever call you again.  (And laugh at the fact these people are basically talking to a brick wall several times a day)

The scammers change their numbers frequently.  Law enforcement used to think it was because the callers ran out of minutes on their prepaid wireless accounts or they were shuttered due to fraud, but now they understand it's simply to evade detection by savvy consumers online.  With the proliferation of VoIP, it's even easier for the crooks to stay a couple of steps ahead of law enforcement.  Below is just a sampling of the 30+ numbers that have been used in recent memory.

1-201-244-7722
1-209-349-7382
1-209-797-2212
1-212-500-0839
1-213-256-0408
1-213-995-3039
1-281-763-0433
1-347-289-3902
1-347-844-6817
1-347-844-6831
1-424-354-4270
1-516-232-8905
1-516-232-8935
1-518-212-0219
1-561-300-8018
1-561-210-4185
1-626-200-4646
1-631-456-4041
1-646-274-1143
1-646-810-8635
1-650-241-4604
1-707-401-4056
1-707-633-2789
1-708-401-0535
1-716-442-2824
1-717-862-4080
1-718-705-8669
1-760-514-0132
1-760-563-5384
1-772-318-4938
1-850-201-1111
1-858-777-1977
1-859-908-2281
1-866-860-4509
1-877-226-7488
1-888-706-7463
1-888-771-9249
1-888-785-4479
1-909-327-4870

So can they really do anything to you?

It's not a simple yes or no answer.  Logic dictates that, if they really wanted to take you for a ride and drain your bank accounts, they already would have.  

So, why haven't they?  

Authorization.  

Why do you think you are being called so much?  Perhaps it is because they like the sound of your voice?  No, they have to have your authorization to take any form of payment from you, period.  The callers know their audience, and that audience is typically a bunch of people that have applied for payday loans in the past.  Most of those people they call couldn't afford an attorney if they wanted one, and are so used to receiving collections calls that so long as they sound like a real collector, they will likely be perceived as one.

Furthermore, they don't even really want to talk to your attorney - that just sounds official and scary enough.  A real attorney would take the callers to task and write them off as two-bit con artists.  The callers need you, in writing, to authorize payment against the fictitious debt they claim you owe.  Go ahead, ask them for proof you owe the debt - more commonly known as verification of debt.  See what they say.  A phone authorization carries very little weight, so if they have something signed by you on file, you are done for - and the callers know that.  That authorization is the only thing these callers are doing by the book, and for good reason.  If they just went all willy nilly and made an ACH debit from your checking account, without your written approval, you could in turn report the transaction as fraudulent to your financial institution.  In about 7-10 business days, you would get the funds returned to your account.  Then the scammers would be up against a bank and their team of lawyers and investigators.  

Bottom line:

If you haven't paid the callers a dime, don't.  If you planned on paying them to shut them up, just don't.  Remember - you are not being contacted by a legally licensed, ethically owned and operated collector.  Read up on the FDCPA - http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre27.pdf - and know your rights.

PS--The FBI sent out a Press Release on this scam just last week:

Extortion Scam Related to Delinquent Payday Loans

Washington, D.C.
December 07, 2010  FBI National Press Office
(202) 324-3691

? filed under: Press Release

The Internet Crime Complaint Center has received many complaints from victims of payday loan telephone collection scams. Callers claim the victim is delinquent in a payday loan and must repay the loan to avoid legal consequences. The callers purport to be representatives of the FBI, Federal Legislative Department, various law firms, or other legitimate-sounding agencies. They claim to be collecting debts for companies such as United Cash Advance, U.S. Cash Advance, U.S. Cash Net, and other Internet check-cashing services.

According to complaints received from the public, the callers have accurate data about victims, including Social Security numbers, dates of birth, addresses, employer information, bank account numbers, and the names and telephone numbers of relatives and friends. How the fraudsters obtained the personal information varies, but in some cases victims have reported they completed online applications for other loans or credit cards before the calls started.

The fraudsters relentlessly call the victim?s home, cell phone, and place of employment. They refuse to provide any details about the alleged payday loans and become abusive when questioned. The callers have threatened victims with legal actions, arrests, and, in some cases, physical violence if they do not pay. In many cases, the callers harass victims? relatives, friends, and employers.

Some fraudsters have instructed victims to fax a statement agreeing to pay a certain amount, on a specific date, via a pre-paid Visa card. The statement further declares the victim will never dispute the debt.

If you receive these calls, do not follow the caller?s instructions. Rather, you should:

Notify your banking institutions.
Contact the three major credit bureaus and request an alert be put on your file.
Contact your local law enforcement agencies if you feel you are in immediate danger.
File a complaint at www.IC3.gov.
Tips to avoid becoming a victim of this scam:

Never give your Social Security number?or personal information of any kind?over the telephone or online unless you initiate the contact.
Be suspicious of any e-mail with urgent requests for personal financial information. The e-mail may include upsetting or exciting but false statements to get you to react immediately.
Avoid filling out forms in e-mail messages that request personal information.
Ensure that your browser is up-to-date and security patches have been applied.
Check your bank, credit, and debit card statements regularly to make sure that there are no unauthorized transactions. If anything looks suspicious, contact your bank and all card issuers.
When you contact companies, use numbers provided on the back of cards or statements

http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/paydayloanscam_120710
Debra Carter
Debra Carter
2010-12-30 23:08:15
Unknown
Now this Officer Danny Foster is calling from 321-275-5257 and said the same things to me and if I didnt comply I was going to be arrested and that I needed to send 433.30 by that afternoon or face charges 3 of them and I also Googled His name and saw this and my husband went off on his a$$ this time he said he was from United Investigations for a loan I was suppose to have taken out but never repaid back and the creditor was United Cashloans and his ID# was 4225
Barak Williams
Barak Williams
2010-12-06 01:34:28
Unknown
WHO THE F*** USES MY NAME?????? HUH am in AFRICA what the f*** is wrong in your bloody countries bi****s huh??
korey
korey
2010-07-01 20:05:40
Debt Collector
I just got the same call from Danny Foster, he called my work and my g/f's cell which is on my joint plan. said the same thing, funny that my H.R. told me about it and googled it because she thought it was strange. the number he gave is 210-893-5644
Lisa
Lisa
2010-05-27 21:38:05
Unknown
The other number he is using is 321-285-2015 and when I put it into the computer it showed it was a landline, with no address except East Bay, Florida
micheal
micheal
2010-05-11 02:41:06
Unknown
he contacted me today again...but i already googled his a** and saw all this...si i gave him a piece of my mind...his callback number a** of today is321-527-2503...have fun..give him a call
micheal
micheal
2010-05-10 23:20:04
Unknown
i called him like i said i would and told him about everyone knowing he was a fraud...then i told him i was going to give all youall his number....he then made teroritic threars to me over the phone. so i called the police department.....they said they would get back to me...
micheal
micheal
2010-05-10 22:40:42
Unknown
thet replied to me yesterday and threatened me...his new number is 321-527-2503
micheal
micheal
2010-05-10 22:24:06
Unknown
he called me yestyerday and threatend me...he left a call back number...give him a piece of your mind....after reading this i know i am....321-527-2503
micheal
micheal
2010-05-10 22:21:40
Unknown
he called and threatend me yesterday...hear is his contact number321-527-2503..i just called my lawyer because the online payday loan companies are suppose to keep your info private..so im sueing there a**
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micheal
micheal
2010-05-10 22:10:39
Unknown
officer danny foster contacted me and actually left a call back number. after threatning me repieditly with arrest,hear is his call back number 3215272503....after reading this....im fixin to call him up
Green4Guns
Green4Guns
2010-04-29 18:25:29
Unknown
I received a call from Officer Danny foster yesterday. He left 2 voicemails and I called back. Threatened to arrest me and the police were coming. Advised me to get a lawyer. Stated I was being charged with 3 felonies including federal banking fraud!!! Of course I was freaked out, especially since this Danny foster seemed to have my information. I called back and asked what payday loan company. He mentioned it was through KS or KF Notifications and they had about 1500 payday loan companies. He stated that I was only paying renew amounts and the owner decided to have me arrested. I called back after googling the number and I said to him that he was a scam and it was unlawful to impersonate an officer and harass people. I also said if i owed a debt to send proper notification in the mail. He said I am trying to help you. I called back and asked where should I send the money? Foster stated, "You can pay the court when you are bailed out." He then hung up the phone. I called back and said that I was reporting him and knew the vicinity of where he was calling from and the police were coming for him. Foster had a strong, Indian sounding accent. Not cool! I have disabled unknown numbers coming through my phone.
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