} perhaps the political questions are not used at all
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The calls either contain or lead to a sales pitch, and are therefore *NOT EXEMPT* from federal DNC. The lame surveys are there to confuse everyone about the callers' right to disturb anyone with a registered phone number. This same scheme has been previously played out by the rabbit warren of security system dealers and the nefarious Dove Foundation before them.
Here's how the FTC sees it ...
"Surveys or political polls:
If calls are being made for the sole purpose of conducting a survey or poll, they are exempt. But purported survey calls are not exempt if they are also part of a plan, program or campaign to induce purchases of goods or services. Organizations placing such telemarketing calls must comply with the Do Not Call provisions and are not Exempt Organizations."
Canadian DNCL Part II: Rule 3(f) exempts calls "made for the sole purpose of collecting information for a survey of members of the public". I won't pretend to know from American soil exactly how the CRTC meant it, but a faux survey followed by a cheap come-on for cruise trips and timeshare resorts does not strike me as meeting a "sole purpose" provision.
This is a followup to my notes posted on July 2, see page 2: http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-360-474-3944/2#p416436109650085107 .
I received another call, on July 16, 2012, from ?Political Opinions.?
Same questions as asked on July 2. I would make a selection but then question would repeat. Eventually, I was successful in the selections...I think the questions are unclear as to what is being asked. In the first case, premiers are supposedly pushing federal govt for more health care funding and have formed a committee to encourage committees in other regions. First of, what committee? Which provinces?
This time around though, the answer options weren?t agree/disagree. They were on a sliding scale of 1 to 5.
At the end, I WAS connected with someone at Caribbean Cruise Lines (about my free trip to the Bahamas. That carrot, I am very sure, is simply a sales pitch.) I tried to find out from the woman I spoke with who contracted them to do the survey. She said she didn?t know, I could get more info from www.independentsurveygroup.org. After some time of reframing my questions to her, it appeared that no one hires Caribbean, that the calls are very likely a joint venture between Caribbean and Independent Survey Group.
There might be two reasons for that (in my opinion):
1. they may be pooling telemarketing resources; saves $;
2. Caribbean gets to talk to an unlimited number of people, INCLUDING people who may have put their numbers on ?do not call? lists, but because the DNC registry doesn?t apply to political calls (in Canada I believe political parties are exempt though I don?t know how it works with a telemarketer hired by a political party).
I have emailed Independent Survey Group to ask who their client is. I doubt they will provide the name of their client, however. It am not convinced that the three political questions asked are going to get meaningful results and hence I worry about how the data will be manipulated and how it will be used.
I understand there is a U.S. political survey as well as this Canadian survey, which makes sense if this is really a way to get around the DNC list. In fact, perhaps the political questions are not used at all and are simply the means of getting around the DNC requirements.
Obama administration has cut off funds to this agency. Call your Congressman and make complaint to DO NOT CALL LIST
I'm with whoever said the do not call list is worth nothing. I've been on it for over a year and continue to recieve calls from robocallers and ppl trying to sell me security systems out of new jersey. For about 8 months i faithfully reported every time these same or diff numbers would call me and nada.....i still get the same calls, even from numbers i've repeatedly reported. Waste of time....
This particular number has called me every few days or so for the last few months. I've never answered (aside from answering and hanging up) and they never leave a message. Caller id always says "Ind Sur Grop".
Greg, while this particular survey may be innocent (and I'd like to hear what other people had to say about it), please take note that Godot is actually on the money about Republican style tactics used by the Harpercons in Canada.
The results of the 2011 election were quite likely gotten through electoral fraud. I reviewed thousands of comments in websites like this one, wrt telephone numbers used by the Conservatives. There was a clear pattern of phishing as to one's party affiliation, duly noted in the CONs CIMS database (Constituency Information Management System). Those same people later received calls just before and on election day, often with the claim that the caller was from Elections Canada, telling them that there voting station was moved.
THAT kind of tactic is not only illegal, it is meant to suppress votes. Elections Canada NEVER telephones voters (mainly because they do not have telephone numbers). So, you see, I came to my conclusions through my own research, not relying on media reports, of which there have been many.
Then, of course, there are all the other tricks and vote suppression strategies that the CONS used.
How do you block the # out?
Continue to get calls from 360/474-3944 on my cell phone. I have "Do Not Call" on all of my phones. What can be done to stop these unwanted and unsolicited calls?
Weird how I too got call at 608pm PST July 3rd
yeah, good luck with that. I've blocked about 6 of their numbers. They keep calling with another number. F you Sara
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This is page 5 - so that's 100 comments (& just the people who took the time to comment) in less than 24 hours! I re-wired my phone blocking equipment & was waiting for a junker to come in. It took 2 days (honest!) but this is the one that came in. Sorry to be the bad news, but you have to block entire area codes. Single numbers don't work. Area code (360) 000-0000 to 999-9999. That's a lot of numbers & that's just area code (360). Please read articles on this in the forum.
Sure thing, right away. Just identify for us which call centers are responsible.
Can't find one, you say? The numbers are spoofed and the criminals keep moving around too fast to get sued? Besides which, if this was an honest telemarketer, *you* would have to revoke permission to ring *your* numbers, which are not magically revealed to the callers on a database site like this. Now you know what we're up against, and why no one reading here can "please tell them to stop".
It is not a true survey caller, which would normally be exempt from DNC registry access, but a cheap ruse for cruise and timeshare sales. These calls would ensue regardless of the dominant party in Congress or the White House. If you really "can't wait that long" for an ending, quit fuming here with your political posturing where it does no good and submit complaints about the nuisance calls to the FTC and attorneys general.
This is a nuisance call. Please tell them to stop
Received unwanted calls and solicitation. This "entity" keeps asking me to take a survey, even after multiple request from me to be removed from their calling list and a refusal to participate. When I call the number it tells me that the number is unavailable or has been removed.
Same crap different number. If this was a legit political survey you wouldn't think they would have to call from so many different numbers. Not a big deal but it does get annoying, I don't recognize their numbers so I don't answer and then block it so they never ring my phone again :) .
Gee, sorry I missed the call when it came in...also, no message left, but I don't answer the phone at home when I don't recognize the number or ID.
Do not call
Thanks! I will report this number.
I got a call at supper time and I let the answering machine take it. I'm from Kamloops British Columbia Canada.
Ir just called me and I lose more battery charge. *sigh* I want death to these scums. Gahhhh!!!
360-474-3944, whomever you are, we hope either you go to hell or put in jail...
stop calling my cell phone # and try to scam ...
my cell is pre-paid, it cost me every time you call
F*** YOU 360-474-3944... go to HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 360-474-3944 shame on you 360-474-3944
YOU MAKE ME ANGRY
this # calls all the time even though on DNC list
Irritated in California
Received a call from them about an hour ago. Did a *60 to block them and filed a complaint with DNC.
Maybe when Nobama loses the election in November, these political survey calls will stop????? I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Got a call from this number about five minutes ago. The spiel says it's a survey about the state of our nation's debt crisis. The number is US, I'm in Canada lol. Soooo ...#*60 .. selective call rejection. Seeya ..!
Called, recorded message about a political survey.
Offered a travel package as a reward.
This cannot be a survey if there is a reward.
I have received 2-3 of these each week throughout 2012.
Please make this stop.
I'm in Illinois. Got a call from this number at 9:15am today. I seem to get a call every four days or so from these jerks. They never leave a message. Got caller id so I will never answer the phone when they call
THIS is why (well, partially why) everyone is so fed up with politicians. They, themselves, may not be the ones who are making all these ridiculous, seriously-UNWANTED calls but it all amounts to the same. Why don't they instead pass legislation on themselves (and any/all party affiliates, subholdings, whatever-loophole-comes-up-next) to eliminate these cold robo-dials? ESPECIALLY those of us who renew our DO NOT FREAKIN' CALL list!!
REPORT THIS NUMBER! https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx
It takes approximately 30 seconds to report.
All of these political calls are coming from Washington State. Seriously?