408-940-9489
CA, US
agent black
agent black
2011-06-06 20:48:18
Unknown
F.B.I.
ATF
ATF
2011-06-06 20:48:18
Unknown
You're F.B.I. huh Agent Black? We're coming for you and Agent Robinson & WE WILL FIND YOU!!!!!!!!!!
lynette
lynette
2011-06-06 20:48:18
Unknown
this number called my daughters phone and said she was in trouble because i put her down as a reference for a loan that i have never recieved
Wendy
Wendy
2011-06-06 20:48:18
Unknown
This number called me today letting me know it is an Officer Justine Nabber said he going to detain me and friend if he doesn't pay his on line loan. which he never received because he doesn't even have direct deposit. The caller is from California and we are in TX.
Wendy
Wendy
2011-06-06 20:48:18
Unknown
This number called me today letting me know it is an Officer Justine Nabber said he going to detain me and friend if he doesn't pay his on line loan. which he never received because he doesn't even have direct deposit. The caller is from California and we are in TX
Aaron
Aaron
2011-06-06 20:48:18
Unknown
Please file against these frauds through the FTC.gov...no debt collector can threaten to arrest or falsely portray a law enforcement officer. These people are relentless and need to be shut down...this board isn't enough...please report all unfair debt collectors to the FTC.
Merissa
Merissa
2011-06-06 20:48:18
Unknown
I have no idea who this is.
Jim
Jim
2011-05-13 23:11:06
Unknown
They don't stop until you tell them you know hey are a fake
Ms. Rita
Ms. Rita
2011-05-09 16:58:36
Debt Collector
I just received a call from this guy, it is A TOTAL SCAM. He has a foreign accent and barely speaks good english, he threaten that he would call my boss and have me fired for fraud.  He also says that he is trying to collect on $300.00 payday loan that I have no knowledge of.  Please be aware of this, he says that his name is SPECIAL AGENT DANIEL WEBSTER.  This is very scary, how was he able to contact me @ work?  I am definitely reporting him ASAP!
Angie
Angie
2011-04-19 18:05:17
Unknown
Just had 3 phone calls in a row to my cell...let them all go to voice mail.  All from the number 408-940-9489.  Their line disconnected during the first call, so the 2nd two calls proceeded to say...they were going to come find me, drag me to the courthouse, and then remove my clothes so I could be beaten.
What a frickin joke!!!
Did get them to stop for awhile when I notified them I had already called the county attorney and the state attorney.  Guess it's time to notify them again!
mysteriousredhead
mysteriousredhead
2011-04-07 20:27:12
Unknown
i atually had them  call back to back in several minutes of each other and was threatened.  when i told them i was a paralegal and they had to provide papers showing i owed a debt they got furious and threatened to lock me up even laughed  when they found out a local policeman was listening to the call
rex
rex
2011-04-06 22:56:46
Unknown
Yes got a call from chris robertson today telling me i was going to be sued. This is a  big scam.
pissed off
pissed off
2011-03-12 04:37:00
Debt Collector
I got a call from these people today, with the accent and he claimed to be calling from our local police department gave me a fake name and badge # told me to call the police dept and have him check out.  I did... I called the local police department and filed a complaint, its not like they can do anything but i was told the best thing to do is to document all the calls i receive.  He impersonated a police officer, gave the the name of a local police officer that i know and gave me the direct # to our local CID.  He used (2) names one was Jack Phillips and he called back and claimed to the the assistant chief of police and used another name.  Because i kept hanging up on him , he would call back and call me a bi*** and threaten my family, and state that we were going to be arrested, and he demanded to talk to my boss.  I phoned the police department using my cell phone while he was yelling at me and the dispatch officer who took my complaint heard the conversation.  Please be careful with what information you use of your computer as well as anything else, these people will get there's one day and when that happens lets see who will be calling them names...
Brenda
Brenda
2011-02-15 19:34:01
Unknown
No call and report them to the Federal Trade Commission.  I spoke with a Rep there that said that these scams wok from fear. (202) 326-2222 then look up debt laws in the the use constitiution.  
A person can not be put in jail for a $300 loan. Debtor prison is a part of US History.
Brenda
Brenda
2011-02-15 19:30:37
Debt Collector
Call and report these guys to the federal trade commission.  600 Pennsylvania Avenu, NW Washington, DC 20580 (202) 326-2222
jjv583
jjv583
2011-02-04 16:53:30
Unknown
I asked for verification of debt he said he cannot and I will be arrested today and is calling my work to get me fired. Lets see
Craig DeMoranville
Craig DeMoranville
2010-11-17 18:01:23
Unknown
How do I turn this over to them as well he said he was an officer from the Sunnyvale police department.
Denise
Denise
2010-11-16 21:26:40
Unknown
This person just called me at work and threatened to tell my boss of a fraudulent check or something.  Can they do this.  I asked for proof of this and he danced around the question and kept asking me if I wanted him to tell my employer and get me fire!  What should I do?
kimmiez
kimmiez
2010-11-03 22:57:01
Unknown
Just had all of this done to my husband and myself today.  The threats are all the same and so are the accents that the guy had.  My husband asked the guy for his "client" number and when he called it he ended up talking to the same guy.  We have reported them to our local police dept and will be calling the PA AG tomorrow.  My husband is also going to call his bank and report the incident to them.  It's a shame these guys can't be caught and have charges filed against them.
Cindy
Cindy
2010-11-03 20:49:28
Debt Collector
I have been called several times today from the name of Harry Ford, Chris Robinson and Paul Smith.  They have threatened my, they have called my daughter in the military and threatened her.  Like she needs this when overseas protecting us from these very people.  Everytime they call I ask for thier direct report and they give me which sounds like the same person.  These people are scammers.  The one person Harry Ford told my husband when he called them and told them to stop harrassing me, Mr. Ford told my husband in not so nice words ""I screwed your wife lastnight""  That tells me that they are definately not real.
cee
cee
2010-10-28 20:21:13
Unknown
i just got the same one all this week trying to scare my family
tom
tom
2010-10-28 20:19:50
Unknown
no you and fake a** officer christopher is going to jail no i'll see you in court
Blake Not Scammed
Blake Not Scammed
2010-10-28 19:37:29
Unknown
Officer Black, Robinson, and cohorts have been harassing me for almost four months.  Their "sales pitch" is that a friend used my name/SS# as a guarantor for a loan, and he/she is now being investigated for fraud.  They go on to say that, in order to waive my association, I need to contact Of. Black ASAP.

The callers are of Indian/Asian origin with thick accents (Black's is actually not that bad) and are definitely using a canned speech, as well as some fear tactics.  They have used numerous phone numbers (Maryland, Georgia, California), and are very persistent...to the point I've been called three times in a row when ignoring their call or when even answering and saying, "Thanks, but no thanks."

All I can say about Of. Black and his henchmen:  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!  SCAM!
k. mclean
k. mclean
2010-10-27 22:00:27
Unknown
scamer trying to scare me into giving them Money.......
The saint (Homeland security)
The saint (Homeland security)
2010-10-27 16:53:57
Debt Collector
You don't need to look up these numbers. Here it is:

For at least the last four years, possibly longer, a group has been calling former payday loan applicants advising them that they have defrauded a bank and are now being sued for non-payment of a loan.  The callers will claim to be calling on behalf of an attorney's office (name varies), the Dept. of Law and Investigation, ACS, or other similar combinations below:

United Legal Processing Division
Midline Marketing
Crime Monitoring Services
Monetary Crime Division
U.S. National Bank
Attorney General?s Office (usually in California)
American Legal Services
Affidavit Consolidation Services (ACS)

You will be threatened with arrest, a costly trial and possibly worse.  In no shape, way or form can you be arrested for non-payment on a consumer debt.  Do not believe these threats, as they are without merit and cannot be carried out in the manner they allege.  

Who are they?

In the past when pressed by law enforcement for an address, the callers have provided the following information:

David Morgan and Associates
Morgan & Associates
Morgan Associates
954-727-8481
1155 Northwest 85th Street
Wintergarden, Florida  33150
(Address is likely invalid)

The collector's MO matches a once legit collections agency called Ellis Crosby & Associates.  Here are some links on them:

http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/ellis_crosby_and_associates.htm
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/EllisCrosbyJudgment.pdf

They have been previously fined over $1.3 million for various violations.  They have been known to use phone banks in India to make their calls, which more or less coincides with the difficult to understand accent many of us detect when we are contacted.  

The last time this group went by any "official" name was back in 2008:

Ellis Crosby & Associates / Douglas & Morgan Associates
4494 Southside Boulevard Suite #200
Jacksonville Florida 32216
Phone:  800-928-3536 / (904) 928-3536
(Address is likely invalid)

There are NUMEROUS consumer alerts out against this group of individuals:

Florida:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/061107/met_176207561.shtml

Kansas:  
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html

Colorado:  
http://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/ ... lls_likely_orig

Rhode Island:  
http://www.collectionscreditrisk.com/news/rho ... -3002135-1.html

West Virginia:
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm

Missouri:
On July 15th, 2010 a Public Awareness Bulletin was sent out by Missouri Information Analysis Center.  

"..received reports from individuals in Ohio and Illinois reference suspicious telephone calls they received. In both instances, the callers are reporting that a voicemail is received from a man, with a Middle Eastern accent, identifying himself as an officer working with the Financial Crimes Unit.  The message indicates that the reason for the call concerns a loan made by the receiver or someone in the receiver's family. The voicemail requests that a return call be made and a telephone number is provided. When a return call is made, the caller is asked to provide personal identifying information such as their date of birth and social security number.

Reports indicate that the calls are frequent and persistent and that they even threaten arrest or legal action if information or money is not provided. It appears that the individuals making these calls may have access to some records connecting individuals and their relatives.  Missouri does not have a Financial Crimes Unit and all indications are that this is a fictitious agency. If you receive a similar phone call, please be advised that it is a scam and please contact your local law enforcement agency or the Missouri Information Analysis Center at 866-362-6422."

Bottom line:

Do not supply the callers with any additional information.  Inform them you have reported them to law enforcement and hang up.  If you haven't already, go ahead and report the calls to local law enforcement, your state's Attorney General and beyond.  Look up the local Secret Service branch's information in your area and get in contact with an agent there.  

If you ever applied for a cash advance online, your information is out there.  
Possible sources for the breach of your privacy are:

* The scammers obtained your information from Teletrack - a reporting agency used by many cash advance lenders to determine their risk lending to you.  The service is able to tell cash advance lenders if you have existing loans with other companies, for example.  Many state laws prohibit borrowers from having more than two cash advances out at the same time.

* The scammers created their own fake payday loan application site.  People looking for a cash advance went to the site and applied, thus freely providing the scammers with their information for malicious use at a later time.  

* The scammers were able to get into the database(s) of cash advance lenders - probable targets being Sonic Payday and Cashnet USA.  


How to protect yourself:

* Inform your employer.  You are likely getting calls at home and/or at work, so make sure your employer is aware the calls are part of a scam and to not take them seriously.  Advise the callers that they are no longer allowed to call you at work.  If they continue to call, document the date and time of the calls you received.  Save voice mails left if at all possible.  

* Change your number(s).  For some this may not be an option, for others a one-time number change can be done free of charge.

Be advised - any references you listed on your payday loan application will be contacted.  Let those people know that this is a scam, and they can disregard.

* Use Google Voice.  Google Voice is a great replacement voice mail system for just about any phone number you use.  Messages can be transcribed and voice mail recordings can be saved as mp3 files.  

Pro Tip - call the scammers with a Google Voice number before turning off your old phone numbers.  Make sure when you call you identify yourself so they can start up their script.  At any point after they have your information pulled up just hang up.  They will then start religiously calling your Google Voice number.  At this point, you are free to change your regular phone number(s) and enjoy not having these people ever call you again.  (And laugh at the fact these people are basically talking to a brick wall several times a day)

The scammers change their numbers frequently.  Law enforcement used to think it was because the callers ran out of minutes on their prepaid wireless accounts or they were shuttered due to fraud, but now they understand it's simply to evade detection by savvy consumers online.  With the proliferation of VoIP, it's even easier for the crooks to stay a couple of steps ahead of law enforcement.  Below is just a sampling of the 30+ numbers that have been used in recent memory.

1-201-244-7722
1-209-349-7382
1-209-797-2212
1-212-500-0839
1-213-256-0408
1-213-995-3039
1-281-763-0433
1-347-289-3902
1-347-844-6817
1-347-844-6831
1-424-354-4270
1-516-232-8905
1-516-232-8935
1-518-212-0219
1-561-300-8018
1-561-210-4185
1-626-200-4646
1-631-456-4041
1-646-274-1143
1-646-810-8635
1-650-241-4604
1-707-401-4056
1-707-633-2789
1-708-401-0535
1-716-442-2824
1-717-862-4080
1-718-705-8669
1-760-514-0132
1-760-563-5384
1-772-318-4938
1-850-201-1111
1-858-777-1977
1-859-908-2281
1-866-860-4509
1-877-226-7488
1-888-706-7463
1-888-771-9249
1-888-785-4479
1-909-327-4870

So can they really do anything to you?

It's not a simple yes or no answer.  Logic dictates that, if they really wanted to take you for a ride and drain your bank accounts, they already would have.  

So, why haven't they?  

Authorization.  

Why do you think you are being called so much?  Perhaps it is because they like the sound of your voice?  No, they have to have your authorization to take any form of payment from you, period.  The callers know their audience, and that audience is typically a bunch of people that have applied for payday loans in the past.  Most of those people they call couldn't afford an attorney if they wanted one, and are so used to receiving collections calls that so long as they sound like a real collector, they will likely be perceived as one.

Furthermore, they don't even really want to talk to your attorney - that just sounds official and scary enough.  A real attorney would take the callers to task and write them off as two-bit con artists.  The callers need you, in writing, to authorize payment against the fictitious debt they claim you owe.  Go ahead, ask them for proof you owe the debt - more commonly known as verification of debt.  See what they say.  A phone authorization carries very little weight, so if they have something signed by you on file, you are done for - and the callers know that.  That authorization is the only thing these callers are doing by the book, and for good reason.  If they just went all willy nilly and made an ACH debit from your checking account, without your written approval, you could in turn report the transaction as fraudulent to your financial institution.  In about 7-10 business days, you would get the funds returned to your account.  Then the scammers would be up against a bank and their team of lawyers and investigators.  

Bottom line:

If you haven't paid the callers a dime, don't.  If you planned on paying them to shut them up, just don't.  Remember - you are not being contacted by a legally licensed, ethically owned and operated collector.  Read up on the FDCPA - http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre27.pdf - and know your rights.

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ATF
ATF
2010-10-27 14:48:34
Unknown
NO You, "Agent Robinson" and "Agent Black" will be behind bars before the end of this week, TRUST THAT!!!!!!
LL Bean
LL Bean
2010-10-25 17:21:05
Prank Call
got a call from this # saying that the caller was Chris Robinson, from the FBI. He said that he was coming to get me and my daughter.  He had a middle eastern accent and was very threatening. The # is (408) 940-9489 from the South SAn Francisco Bay Area. THIS IS A SCAM. I HAVE TURNED IT OVER TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
bkny
bkny
2010-10-18 23:25:02
Unknown
Hey "officer John Fiitzpatrick, California" you are one of the troll scammers trying to make yourself look legitimate with a fake post! You don't write english any better than you speak it! To anyhone doing a search on this number - these people are scam artists who have stolen your information and are trying to extort money from you. If you get a call form a middle eastern person with an americanized name saying you owe on a bad check or a loan - but they refuse to provide details or anyhting in writing - you can be sure it is a scam.  If you google the company they say you owe you will either find a phoney website - or if it is a real company they will have no record of you.  These people will call your work, family and friends - it is all part of thier scam to try to scare you into paying.  do not give them any money or confirm any of the information they have.  Notify your state attorney general and file a complaint on  www.ic3.gov.  Good luck - these people have been bugging me since Feb - always call form different numbers using different names - but same crackpot story - Good Luck!
officer john fitzpatrick,california
officer john fitzpatrick,california
2010-10-18 23:01:07
Unknown
hey guys don't underestimate this number mrs. phyllis myhan is behind the bars......
Lima R
Lima R
2010-10-12 14:34:16
Unknown
This are scammers..and i been getting these harassing calls also. Saying that if i will not contact them back they feel sorry for me and i will be in big trouble if i dont call them back or pay. I have never used a payday loan. They are illegal in north carolina so i know for a fact they are fake.
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