Amazing...thank you

Agreed with all the post ...a rip off scam

414-443-0441 aka 972-702-8600 aka 985-725-9333 - Called our business once again. Just like last time, claimed to the Shriners Organization, yet Caller ID shows them as Cunningham & Moore (though I now know that they are called Agente Communications, 13601 Preston Rd, Dallas, TX 75240) Only this time, they did not go into their spiel, and instead kept asking for the owner by name. I, the owner, was not in the office when the call came in. When my secretary inquired about the nature of the call, they simply kept asking for me by name and nothing else. My secretary then informed them that I was not in the office at the moment, and they suddenly hung up on her. I will be reporting the calls directly to the FCC.gov website as Nuisance & Harassment calls and will also be filing a formal complaint directly with the BBB.org website as well.

414-443-0441 aka 985-725-9333 aka 972-702-8600 - Called our business once again. Just like last time, claimed to the Shriners Organization, yet Caller ID shows them as Cunningham & Moore (though I now know that they are called Agente Communications, 13601 Preston Rd, Dallas, TX 75240) Only this time, they did not go into their spiel, and instead kept asking for the owner by name. I, the owner, was not in the office when the call came in. When my secretary inquired about the nature of the call, they simply kept asking for me by name and nothing else. My secretary then informed them that I was not in the office at the moment, and they suddenly hung up on her. I will be reporting the calls directly to the FCC.gov website as Nuisance & Harassment calls and will also be filing a formal complaint directly with the BBB.org website as well.

Tripoli shrine has several circuses in and around eastern wisconsin. I can understand how you may have felt duped, id be cautious too. However a call to the shrine office will easily verify this.. hope this helps

Wow really. Get a grip. Do you really think you are so special that someone would do all that research and the time to create a caller id specifically to ask you for 20 bucks?   There are Thousands of c moores in the country.. take that tin hat off and come down to Earth.  I hope your employment situation improved. Have a great day.

The Company that is making these calls for the Shriners used to be called Cunningham and Moore, but it now goes by the name Agente Communications; even though many of the older callers still use the name Cunningham and Moore on the phone. Their main phone number is 972-702-8600. If you call that number, someone in the processing department will answer the phone and you can ask to speak to whoever you need to, and they will transfer you. They do call nationwide, raising money for many of the local Shriners. Some people may call this a Shriner scam, Shriners scam, or Shriners telemarketing scam. I'm just going to list some of the facts as they stand to the best of my knowledge in 2013 and let you be the judge as to how you feel about your donations to this company calling for the Shriners.

The actual truth is that they have "cold callers" and "tap callers". A cold caller is a person who starts out with the company or who has been there a while and hasn't proven their sales ability yet. A cold caller basically calls cold off from a lead list that is organized by zip code. Cold callers call people who have never donated before (however, some of the numbers may include those who have but just by chance) in the hopes that they can get a donation. Once a cold caller gets a person to commit to giving a donation that donor then becomes a tap. A tap is basically a lead of a person who has donated before, a prior donor for the company. These taps, leads, are stored in a different database from then on out, and on your receipt you will see your tap number in the upper left or upper right hand part of the receipt. All the older receipts used to end with either just a number, or the letters top or bull depending on how valuable a donor you were. now they took the letters of and they end with no letters or just the letter t or b so donors would stop asking what that meant. Now a tap caller is a caller who has proven their sales ability and only calls taps, which are prior donors. Again there are different levels of taps depending on how valuable a donor you are: there are "room taps", "top taps", "bull taps", and even taps in what is called "the premier database".

As far as pay for callers is concerned, all callers are guaranteed to get $10 and hour as a base or commission, whichever is higher at the end of the week. The caller gets 35% of every "cold sale" made. So that means that if you have never donated to this company before then you are a cold sale and the caller gets 35% of your donation. As far as taps are concerned, the caller gets 20% of every "tap sale" made. Again, that means that if you have donated to this company then you are a tap sale and the caller gets 20% of your donation. Unfortunately it gets much worse sounding than that though, because most callers are not good enough on the phones to commission at the end of the week, so they just make the $10 per hour. What that means to you is that if a person only raised $800 in donations for the whole week, and that person worked 40 hours, then that caller made a paycheck of $400; and, therefore, that caller alone got 50% of your donation. Keep in mind that that is just the pay to the individual caller and there is a whole office of staff, office rent, etc, etc,.

So you may be wondering how much the top callers at Agente communications make? Well, there are about 5 bulls at this time at Agente Communications. A "bull" is what they call their very top callers. A few of these bulls consistently pull paychecks of $4,000 to $7,000 each and every week. Yes, you read that correctly, and I did not typo and add an extra zero by accident. I have repeatedly and first hand seen their paychecks and seen their weekly tmr report, which is a report off the donations they brought in. So for you big donors out there, listen up: if you donate $1,000 to a shrine circus or hospitals, then that caller you are on the phone with is guaranteed top get 20% of your thousand; again, factually if you donate $1,000 to a shrine circus or hospital or even a shrine golf tournament, $200 of your $1,000 check is going right into the pocket of the caller that is on the phone with you. Believe me I know I have been that caller many times.

So there are some of the facts as far as pay is concerned with the company called Agente Communication, formerly called Cunningham and Moore. I am thinking about starting a website describing the full range of my knowledge of this company in the hopes of giving donors a more informed decision of where their money is going. I will do so if some of you who reply on here would think you would be interested in seeing a website fully detailing this company and how it is run to the best of my knowledge. just reply to this message with your opinion.

By as I said this company calls over many parts of the country for local Shrines, raising money for their circus' and also hospitals, as well as the shrine charity golf tournaments. Here is a short list of many of the local Shrines that we called for while i worked there, along with the local Shrine name, its location, and the caller ID number that may have been in use at that time (keep in mind they change these numbers frequently to keep donors on their feet:

Hella Shrine Ciircus  (Dallas) and Shriners Hopsitals 972-702-2955 (however they have a few more numbers and i don't have them written down.

Al Amin Shrine Circus (Kingsville, Victoria, Hidalgo, Beeville, Alice, and Corpus Christie, Texas) 361-225-2584

Abou Ben Adhem Shrine Circus (Springfield, MO) not sure of the caller id number

Alcazar Shrine Circus (Montgomery, AL) 334-264-1104

Al Chymia Shrine Circus (Memphis, TN) 901-387-0448

Alhambra Shrine Circus (Chattanooga, TN) 423-892-9266

Al Menah Shrine Circus (Nashville, TN) 615-262-2502

Alzafar Shrine Circus (San Antonio, Seguine, Laredo, Texas) 210-892-0006

Beja Shrine Circus (Green Bay, Neenah, Shawano, Waupaca, and other cities, WI) 920-497-0079 and 920-494-3401

Ben Hur Shrine Circus (Austin, TX) 512-646-0025

Elf Khurafeh Shrine Circus (Lansing, Flint, and Saginaw, MI) 810-686-7411

El Kahir Shrine Circus ( Cedar rapid, Iowa City, Mason City, IA) 319-804-1750

El Karubah Shrine Circus (Shreeveport, LA)  not sure of the number off hand

El Maida Shrine Circus (El Paso and Odessa, TX) 915-351-3794 and 915-351-3566

Jerusalem Shrine Circus (Thibodeaux and New Oleans, LA) 985-725-9333

Kaaba Shrine Circus (Davenport, IA) 563-359-6354

Maskat Shrine Circus (Wichita Falls, TX) 940-766-3700

Karem Shrine Circus (Waco, TX) 254-420-0091

Orak Shrine Circus (Richton Park, IL) 219-886-9650

Rizpah Shrine Circus (Bowling Green, Owensboro, Hopkinsville, KY) 270-843-0340

Suez Shrine Circus (Midland, San Angelo, and many other cities, TX) 325-949-0009

Tripoli Shrine Circus (Milwaukee, Antigo, Fond Du Lac, Sheboygan, Union Grove, West Bend, WI) 414-443-0441, 920-497-0079

Zelzah Shrine Circus (Las Vegas, NV) 702-366-9150

Zuhrah Shrine Circus (Minneapolis, MN) 612-379-1011

OK that is a list of most of the Shrine Circus' that this company has called for while i worked there. Oh and by the way they also call for the AMVETS over many parts of the country, and the Dallas Sherifs posse (which they are currently using as a sponsor for Christmas supplies since they lost the Jaycees contract for it). So if you donate to the Shrine Circus or hospitals through this company then you will become a tap, and you will be called for the AMVETS or any other charity that this company holds a contrat for in your area. And, yes, the pay structure is the same for these other charities also.

So there you have it. That is the facts as I know them to the best of my knowledge at the time of this writing. I still want to make a free website that exposes all the rest of this company as well as the lifestyle of the top callers there and how your precious donations are spent (Such as the one who feels that it is necessary to wear several thousands of dollards worth of clothes every day and has multiple expensive vehicles that are all customized). I hope this message on this board proves valuable to those who are thinking about making donations to the Shriners through this telemarking company.

I called the Shriners office, and was told it's legit, but if you don't want the courier to come, you can send your check to:

Tripoli Shriners
3000 W. Wisconsin Ave.
Milwaukee, WI 53208

Call C Moore (Cunningham & Moore) at 414-443-0441 and tell them they don't need to come to your house because you're sending the check in.

Received unsolicited call to purchase tickets for underprivileged children to the Tripoli Shrine circus that is only a few days away. Looked up circus & found it was held almost 6 months ago. Tried to call number back & it disconnected.  Was asked to leave money on doorstep for pick up.  Scam.  I will be leaving a copy of these posts in an envelope on my doorstep.

Moore C   on the callerid display,,,,,so, I answer it because I know a C Moore. Guess what, I explain the callerid display to the caller,,,,,this guy (Dean) on the other end of the line says 'that's odd'. He then hits me with the Shrine Circus speech. I explain my employment situation and he politely says 'thanks anyhow, and goodbye'.

Pretty classy for a scumball telemarketing firm who would scam / fraud a local Wisonsin number so that I would be tricked into answering it.

This company will ask you for donations to different charity?s mainly to send underprivileged children to the shrine?s circus, then they will send someone to pick up your donation (they do this to avoid mail fraud charges) they then take your money and pay themselves. It is sad that people like this exist in the world

Call the Do Not Call List number - 1-888-382-1222. Press "2" to report this number and give specifics about your experience.  Also call the Shriners to report the rude and obnoxious person who is representing them. The number above is legit for the Shriners (414) 933-4700. When I called the person answering the phone told me she already had two complaints that morning. Shame on them for not firing this company.

I received a call that they were raising money  to send children to the Tripoli shrine Circusand and would be sending a courier to pick up the check.  Seems strange so I thought I'd call there also to see if it is legitament.

I used to work for them. Just so you are aware they are all liars. They donate pennies on the dollar to the charity. Your money would go a lot further if you donate directly to the charity. Not sure why they use c&m as a middle man. The charity just receives a lump sum from c&m and thu have no record of how much c&m is taking in. Usually c&m keeps up to 80% or more of the donations and they send the rest to the charity, which I suppose is a decent enough amount that the charity still works with them. Don't trust them they are evil.

Definitely a scam. Know someone who works there. They keep almost all the money and give pennies on the dollar to the charity. Sad.

The caller ID read "C Moore".  The caller was raising money for the Tripoli Shrine Circus in Milwaukee, which included picking up the check donation at my home.    Believe it or not, I verified that this was legitimate.  I called the Tripoli Shrine HQ at 414-933-4700.  I was informed that they use a firm in Texas on their behalf whose name is Cunningham Moore Inc out of Dallas Texas.  The only thing that they don't tell you that they should, is that while the contributions are for a charitable cause, they are not tax deductible.  I will continue to donate, but I won't deduct them.

The caller ID read "C Moore".  The caller was raising money for the Tripoli Shrine Circus in Milwaukee, which included picking up the check donation at my home.    Believe it or not, I verified that this was legitimate.  I called the Tripoli Shrine HQ at 414-933-4700.  I was informed that they use a firm in Texas on their behalf whose name is Cunningham Moore Inc out of Dallas Texas.  The only thing that they don't tell you that they should, is that while the contributions are for a charitable cause, they are not tax deductible...

constantly calls, very rude when i tell him we are not interested, said he is just going to keep calling back anyway...

No answer when called back, I don't think its from the 414 area code those. The name on CID shows as C M Inc., however when I do a reverse lookup for 4144430441 I get a listing for an S Sinclair in Milwaukee.

Its most likely a debt collector as I am unemployed and get many calls each day, I just ignore them all.

Received 3 calls directly in a row less than 2 minutes apart. Did not answer one of them.  Listed as C M Inc.  tried to call it back later and no answer and no machine or service

It's the Shriners.  They want money for their hospitals.

If it was the Shriners, they would leave their name when they left a message.  It appears to be a scam to me.  If not, the Shriners should use a more reputable calling service.

do not call to solicite me. Respect peoples privacy

Probably not reputable as they would not leave Business Name or reason for call, just a message to call them.  I would not call back.

The first 4 posts are fantastic.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa.

KEEPS CALLING but never leaves message. called this number back a guy answered cunningham and moore. whatever it is is a scam.

looked it up on reverse phone number thing...said it was Stephen L. Sinclair from Milwaukee

looked it up on reverse phone number thing...said it was Stephen L. Sinclair from Milwaukee...also looked up the circus, and the contact number is an 800 number!

Rec'd junk ph call from 972-702-8600 - [11:45 am] - did not answer, msg was left. Reverse Lookup points to: Cunningham & Moore Inc., 13601 Preston Rd, Dallas, TX 75240, telemarketing dirt bags. Msg from Michael Sell (Self, sp.??) to call 414-443-0441.

Dirtbag calls from Dallas, and then via RCF (remote call forwarding) hands off a local ph number to masquerade and fool you. Couldn't quite pronounce the name, didn't state what it was about, and dirtbag insistent we call him. Yeah, sure, right. The local number had a number of interesting comments.

Never, never, ever, pick up on calls like these dirtbags, no matter how innocuous it may seem. Once you have invited the devil in, you?ll have a helluva time kicking him out.

We received a call from an incredibly rude guy seeking donations for the Shreiner's. I agree with the other posters on this thread about the first four posts being fake. This is a scam, plain and simple. NEVER EVER give a donation based on a cold call to your home or business. If it is a legitimate cause, they will gladly send you a printed pamphlet via mail and/or refer you to their website to make a donation. It is NEVER a good idea to make a financial donation via phone to a stranger. And as for having someone come by to "pick up the donation?" NO organization would sanction such activity.