I   GET A  PHONE CALL   I AM  INTEREST  IN A HOME BASE BUSINESS  I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE CODE THAT WAS GIVING  TO ME WHEN I PUT IT IN  THE RECORDING KEEP REPEATING IT SELF.1-641-715-3900 EXT. 229497.  SORRY NO LUCK GETTING  THROUGHT SORRY. MARY

It's the Mary Kay number, they wanna sell u make up and face stuff

This is the Mary Kay number, they want to sell you Mary Kay facial stuff

It is now a moving company

I work for a printing company. I received a call from Henry Jordan saying he worked for Century Film and would have print jobs for flyers, posters, invitations, etc. for the next year or so.He left the number 641-715-3900, but said to first contact him at henry@centuryfilm.com. Centuryfilm.com seems to be a legit site belonging to an independent film productions company. I could find no connection from the site to a Henry Jordan. It probably is a scam, but I did send the initial email before googling the number;-(

I received a call from Morgan Franks and was advised about a "project"  I am a Roofing contractor.  He wanted me to send $68.00 to CAPP... Wonder how many people fell for this???

I got a phone call from 641 715 3900 every day!!!!! How can I stop this?  When I call back to know who's calling me, nobady answered the phone. Tha's B. S!!!!

I got a phone call from 641 715 3900 every day!!!!! How can I stop this?  When I call back to know who's calling me, nobady ansuered the phone. Tha's B. S!!!!

I received a call from this number that led me down many e-mails, but with no contact with anyone.  My company does electrical contracting.  This company has yet to ask for money, but it sounds like this is about to happen soon.

Another electrical contractor here. Same initial call from Don, then email to Tim & several others, then get a call from Morgan Franks with the long recorded meeting. Received e mails from Morgan with forms to fill out. $68 fee to a payment processing co. I know it's a scam but I e mailed questions & want to see how far it goes, short of me paying any $ or signing any document which I will not do.

I must admit I get hung up on scams like this. I am so intrigued by them. I am going to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. I assume the CAPP portion of the email is where the scam begins. I will return the requested documentation, and let you know what happens next. Here is the latest email received from Morgan:



  From Morgan Franks

   RE:  Moving forward on electrical Jobs


It appears we are ready to go forward with the arrangement concerning the jobs we?ve been communicating about.   We have tried to keep you completely updated by both email and phone  as new issues or  changes have come up on our side.   I want to thank you for your patience on this one.  We had been moving slowly with some caution on our side because there was a lot more at stake for us down the road than just these initial jobs.   This involves future additional jobs over five years that are tied into this one  via a network of other projects and the idea is to use the same contractor and personnel for all of it.


Very Important  -   The information below must be reviewed and addressed in order to go forward on our side as planned beginning next week. The parts that are underlined below are specifically needed from your side.



The four attachments with this email pertain to moving forward and I have included an explanation for each below.  Please review in the specific following order below:

Attachment 1   -  Memo 5 ? Contractor     -   This is the previous memo I sent you only in case you did not receive it.  It updated everyone about the last issues we addressed that came up on our side.  If you received this memo, you might want to skip this one unless you care to review it again.


Moving Forward ? Instructions

Important Note:   Although we have covered everything now from our side via voice and email, if you feel after reviewing this email there are still any questions on your side or you think we need to take more time and converse by phone before sending out the memo to everyone to schedule with you, please let me know. If you need to reach me, do not reply to this email address. Instead, use the following contact information specifically for this project: electric@jordan-franks.com or Tel direct 661-228-3140.  I will be the only person communicating with you from now on.   However, this email should address all remaining questions.

If there are no questions or issues on your part at this time. DO NOT respond to me or this memo at this time. Instead, follow the instructions below in order to move forward on your end. The personnel indicated below will advise me when they have received what they need from you, which will obviously tell me you have moved forward. For this reason, do not worry about responding to me if there are not actual issues or questions.


Please Follow Instructions Below:


Attachment 2   -  Occupant Memo  -    The goal now is to put the attached memo out to all the unit occupants with your contact information so that they can schedule with you as soon as they can work it into their agendas over the coming months.   ( See again attached  ?occupant memo? ).   That memo will direct each occupant to you as the one they must use to get this done.   The memo will go out on Management /Our letterhead and the place that is shaded in green on the memo will contain your specific contact information for each occupant to reach you for scheduling and estimates. Remember, you are not estimating or bidding against competition. Per the memo, they are not to use other contractors.

Please verify and send your specific contact information that will be placed in the green area of the memo.  Even though you may have already included this information in communications before, please type it out in the exact order and way it should appear in the memo including any website or email information you wish to include.  You do not need to fit your information into the actual green box on the sample.  We will do that part.  Just type it out in a normal email so we can copy and paste it into the memo format.

IMPORTANT NOTE:  Please do NOT send this information to me.   Instead, forward this email to our executive assistant Alice Miller so she knows what it pertains to and simply type out your contact information for her in the email so she can copy and paste it in the memo.  Her address is alice@jordan-franks.com   Once again, do NOT send this information to me.  Send it to Alice who has been assigned to coordinate the memo only..  

However, please do not contact Alice for any other matter.  She cannot answer questions in general. I will be available for everything else as your primary contact.  My contact information for this project once again is  Morgan Franks -   TEL 661- 228-3140     EMAIL   electric@jordan-franks.com  


Attachment 3  -   CAPP Overview       We have already registered with CAPP on our end to make this work.  As mentioned in previous communications, CAPP will advance 70% of what the job requires and pay you directly before the job begins.  The occupant of the unit pays the balance.  Per our agreement with them,  once they advance you the money, they will deduct the advanced money from our account after four months to reimburse themselves.  We covered earlier in the original overview memo that we would both need to be registered with this program in order to receive funds from them for some of the jobs.  This attachment   ?CAPP overview page?    gives a brief look at how it works pertaining to your side of the operation.  This is the funding program that was referred to previously in the project overview that we originally sent you and was covered as well in the meeting archive.  We estimate this mechanism will be used on maybe 20-30% of the jobs.  It became the only solution available for those cases where money would have been an issue for getting the job done.  Without this solution, we would have a problem with that 20-30 % of the units.  This procedure appears to solve that money issue for those needing to use this mechanism.

Attachment 4  -  SA-SER2    This is the CAPP agreement  which goes into more detail about how you are paid from their system and what to do.  

Look for the following line in the middle of that page:

                                       Current Approved Groups/Companies for The Business include:
           
Fill in    Jordan-Franks and clients    on that line because it will alert CAPP that it applies to our contract with them.  Once again,  we are already signed on with them.   Please sign and fax or email the agreement for CAPP to them to register on your side.   Do NOT send that agreement to us.  We do not need a copy of it.  They will inform us  when they have everything they need.  Just be sure to follow up with the people at CAPP for what they need when they send you their confirmation after they receive what you send them.    NOTE:  They do not need anything else form you such as estimates at this moment.  Estimates would occur when the unit is seen after occupant schedules and CAPP is supplied a copy of the estimate to know how much money to advance to you.

The memo from us will go out to the occupants of each unit when all the above is in place.

We would like to thank you again for your consideration in working with us on coordinating electrical services.

Morgan Franks

I received same, and then some, since I responded. When they leave voice messages, the sound is garbled.

Always a different name on phone of e-mail messages.

I got the exact email word for word, sending it off to a friend in the FBI he works on these kinds of scams.
Gotta love Google, Thanks Guys :)

I got the same deal, I'm in florida. I also got that crazy email. Freakin scumbags.

I got the message on my phone, email my "partler" at alcar. a dozen houses to rewire. I did email, got no responce. Must be a rip off..........

mary kay products

I received the following call and email.  Strange and sounds like a scam.  I submitted a inquiry to the BBB to follow up.  I highly suggest each of you file a complaint also.  

From: Tim@AlCar [mailto:Tim@AlCar.info]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: SINGLE FAMILY UNIT


Concerning your email below,  Don was referring to several houses that will need wiring per a project we work with.  Our primary job at the moment is to select the electrical contractor to be used.  Before final questions can be addressed, it is going to be important for you to have a brief conversation with one of the principles involved so you can both eliminate any questions on either side.  That would also be the time and place to address any questions that may come up.  Not with me at this time.   In the meantime, let me bring you up to date on where it stands at the moment so you can be prepared.  After that, I should pass you up to the person you really need to discuss this with.  The following are the main points I think you should be aware of before you both speak:  There should be 12 to 21 single-family units over the year that should have electrical work done.  There also could be more each year over the next five years if the initial units are handled properly.   We?re considering the following proposed arrangement:   Two thirds of the money down in advance before the job is started,  half the balance the day the job starts and the final amount upon the day of completion.   Do not be concerned with the job prices on your end needing to be too low or the cheapest.  Quality is preferred over discounts or lowest prices.  For this reason, do not approach this with discounts or reduced costs.  Approach from quality results.



The circumstance around these jobs is unusual so you should be aware of some things before deciding to consider them.  We?re working with two partners that manage a large project which covers housing expenses for term workers brought in for their project and the project itself controls and manages the units however the individual worker/tenant will be doing an upgrade on the unit per their mutual agreement.   The upgrade involved is the electrical work.  The project requires this work done by the occupant-worker within a certain time frame.  A program to assist with the initial two thirds before the work begins is being considered for possibly one quarter to a third of the tenants who may need help to comply financially before the time-frame deadline.  That program would advance up to two thirds to the electrical contractor for the project, based on a formal estimate from the contractor.  The occupant would cover the balance.   That program would be repaid later directly from the principles who also own the units and in turn would collect from the occupant later.  If it is decided by all parties that this program solves the issue, both the project and the electrical contractor would have to be registered with the program in order to receive the payments up front by either direct deposit or check, per the choice of the electrical contractor who would be receiving the money directly from that program based on the written estimate supplied.  The other occupants not using the above mentioned program would pay in full in the manner as would any normal resident of the unit.





For the above reasons, this divides the houses into two groups from our position:  



1.  Those where the worker/tenant will cover the entire cost out of pocket with two thirds down.  

2.  Those who will need the assistance arrangement, which again could be one quarter to a third of those involved.   From your standpoint,  you are paid on all of them with two thirds to seventy percent up front and balance as explained earlier.



Conclusion:  If we want the rights or access to service the group using assistance as well as the others,  you need to consider the points I outlined above.  If we don?t want to consider the second group or in essence you do not want to consider them because of the suggested program involved,  then on our side we must determine what we are going to do about them with perhaps another direction.   The project would like to have one contractor for all but if you have a problem with it, we may have to go to a different arrangement.



Overall, there appears to be work available over the next 5 years as I mentioned earlier however, the jobs would certainly be spaced out over time so it wouldn?t disrupt your current workload.   If you see that there is any issue at this point that would be a problem with any of this on your side,  please do not follow up with us any further at this moment.  It would only be a waste of time for both sides.  However, if you do wish to pursue this further, please do the following:  Contact the principles that control the management of the units and let them know that I have sent you to them and who you are.  There are three partners however,  you should only contact the one that is handling the initial setup on this project.  That would be Van Telman and you should email him first at van@jordan-franks.com before trying to speak.    In the subject line of the email to Van, put ?Electrical work?  and nothing else so he knows right away what this concerns. In the email itself,  let him know who you are and that I sent you over to him.



Caution -  Do not approach anyone else on this initially other than Van or it may appear to all of them that you are trying to go around him to someone else and that would likely cause them to tell us all to forget it on the basis we are not even following their initial requests before you even do the jobs.   There is five years of work involved later on aside from what we have in hand. For this purpose, the partners are very concerned about keeping things simple with proper contacts and procedures used in order to keep organized on their side.   We certainly don?t want to show that we can?t handle things properly or as requested.



Once again, if you feel this is not something you can handle, please do not respond.  If we don?t hear from you we will automatically assume you want to pass on this one.  There will be no purpose to contact me back on this either way because I will be out of the loop on this once you contact Van.



Thank you for offering your services.



Tim Connors

Same info, Same message.  Good thing I googled.

This number called and left message for me to email them all of my contact info about rewiring soem homes for them.  All you get is a recording phishing for your info.

Caller left a message asking if we were interested in wiring single family homes and to send an email to tim@alcar.info to confirm our interest.

got a call from Don Hopkins with same message as to say would be leaving town for a week. We do our homework this is a scam. So don't waste your valuable time with these unreliable sources.

Well don now has several house in the Atlanta market that he wants rewired. Same m.o. left a message saying he will be out of town for a few weeks and that i should email his partner tim for more info. This guy must be one rich mother to have homes all over the us that need roofing and painting and rewiring.

I received the same message about him being out of town and emailing his partner. I'm glad I looked into it on here before I responded!

Fake opportunity for work call.  Guy says his name is Don Hopkins and he has several older units that need rewiring.  He was going out of town, so he said to message his partner Tim@alcar.info.com.

Rec'd same info. Don Hopkins, email tim@alcar.info. They are still trying. Happy I found this info.

Thank you for posting your message.  The exact same person and almost word for word called me about alot of houses in our earea that need to be re-wired.  Scammers.

Same here, didn't call back.  Wanted me to rewire old single family dwellings over time.  Email his partner Tim, which I didn't.  We have enough problems with todays economy for people like this to waste our time.  Lock him up as far as I am concerned.  Just my 2 cent worth

Called my business several times about needing rewired work for single family units. I've been in my field of work for over 30 years & know when someone is pulling a scam. Don Hopkins & Tim. I traced the call to a ?MAGIC MAN? @ ext. 3910

Got the message last night, almost emailed until my apprentice decided to google the email address.  Thanks to this site we didn't fall victim to the scam.  Same "Don Hopkins" and Tim@alcar.info setup as previous post.  Appreciate the heads up.

Go same message. Dozen older homes to rewire, wants me to call his partner Tim about it tim@alcar.info

Thanks to everyone who posted about this scam -- SINCE 2010!!!!