651-204-1349
MN, US
D W
D W
2011-10-14 16:07:01
Debt Collector
208-758-0230   IC Systems - first called today at 11:39 am asking for someone and sounded very loud background noise  - caller was a man. said the call might be recorded. He was very curt and harsh. Would only ask for a person and asked if I was the spouse.  I said, This sounds weird and I am NOT talking to you. I hung up. I did not answer any questions. Until today, I had never heard of this company.  I will block this caller.  They cannot collect what someone does not have.  Like getting blood from a rock in our case.  We lost everything we had due to a major car accident.  Lucky to have lived in the head on collision with a large OAK tree!  Now having people trying to collect from us is like rubbing salt in a wound.  We went from living in a nice house making a very good living to food stamps and not being able to heat the house we moved to in a terrible place, above 62 degrees in winter.  And the people call wanting sums of money we just do not have. some are even calling for balances like 35.00 - good grief.  They can afford to write off the amount.  If I had an extra 35.00 a month, I would buy brakes or try to get my muffler fixed,  or see a doctor.  no - that would not pay for a doctor -  We cannot afford to run the dishwasher here - not that it works anyway...   Very depressing.   Went from having 4 cars to 1 and 1/2 and a 1991 and the good one 1999.  Both need work.  One needs a windshield.  I am ready to jump from the bridge that crosses the Ohio river.  I am not joking.
Davidson
Davidson
2011-08-31 14:32:52
Unknown
That is terriable !!!! I understand the idea but that is stealing!!!! Now the seller is out of money and the item sold. This so wrong and you should not do this under any condition.
Texan
Texan
2011-08-29 22:45:35
Unknown
Asked for PayPal and Ebay account passwords. Referring to Texas Attorney General.
FK_PP&Ebay
FK_PP&Ebay
2011-08-17 14:49:18
Unknown
Hilarious. :D

Well, given that they are probably the biggest e-commerce crooks around, and seem to GET AWAY with screwing people all over the world without consequence, I have taken it upon myself to relieve them of some $4,000+...Robin Hood Style...and then closing out the bank account, lol....this all after i made sure my buyers were refunded as I refuse to sink to EB/PP's scummy level.
FK_PP&Ebay
FK_PP&Ebay
2011-08-17 14:42:20
Debt Collector
Just thought I'd share my collection of phone numbers from these same people (seems like they have a lot of them), so that you guys may program them into your cell phones and route directly to voicemail :)

651-204-1349
651-204-1341
202-367-9287
202-870-5977
603-589-7207
Lkelley
Lkelley
2011-08-15 20:38:23
Debt Collector
they called about a 20 year old debt, and even after telling them not to call they continue to do so
Papa T
Papa T
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
after trying to reason with her, I finally gave her a good cussin'.
No Idea what scam it is.
Josh
Josh
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
This number belongs to IC Systems, a collection agency for PayPal.  If you've got a negative balance with them, expect to get calls from these guys!
Steven D'Antonio
Steven D'Antonio
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
My paypal balance is zero and I have a perfect record with them and their owners ebay.  There is no reason for me to be harassed up to 10 times a day by these people.
Spiderlips
Spiderlips
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
I have a paper from Paypal saying that Case is closed and I owe nothing, but yet now they say I owe them money. this is after I sent an item to a guy and he sent me back a box without the item. Paypal told me they will take care of any charge backs and later said it wasn't thier problem.
Nyetowl
Nyetowl
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
Someone hacked into my Paypal account and fraudulently sold and bought items under my sign-in.  I don't even have an Ebay sellers account and I haven't bought anything on Ebay in years.  I talked to Paypal and they acknowledged that this was a fraudulent act but they still say that I have a negative balance.  I don't even have a bank account or current credit card attached to the account, so how could I have a negative balance?  They are trying to charge me for fees fraudulent sales and purchases.  I will never attach a bank account or credit card to Paypal, since they have such poor security.  Even the collection agency said that it was a fraudulent claim.
Ethanhunt
Ethanhunt
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
They called and left a message wanting me to contact them about an "important business matter".  They only say they are a collection agency.  They neither say what company they represent nor do they give me a case number to refer to when I call.
Lori R
Lori R
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
I had a 25.00 neg balance with paypal, which I resolved. I have a balance now of zero, and soon to be a positive amount but these people call me 6 or 7 times a day, I don't even answer it. But its starting to get annoying. I am going to pick up and tell them I have no balance with paypal and to stop harrising me. They call before 8am my local time which is in violation of regulation Z and they also call all day sunday!
the man
the man
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
THESE PEOPLE ARE EVIL, I had a guy hang up on me because I told him this isn't my problem, what a joke of a company
Misty
Misty
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
IC Systems... they call upwards of 10-15 times per day. I owe ebay like 65.00 in seller fees, from a store I never had! I tried to fight it with ebay, who had already turned it into IC systems, and IC systems refuses to work with anyone.
Wetshots
Wetshots
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
It's paypal anyway you say it.  Do yourself a favor and visit paypalsucks.com  Or call Bogie Boguslawski the consumer advocate @ the Daily Press. (760)241 7744  I'm putting a case together for him about what there doing to me and my bank account.  PayPal is a pack of thiefs and maraders....
Dave.........
techslinger
techslinger
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
DEAR EBAY BUYERS:

WANT TO GET FREE STUFF OFF EBAY? HERE’S HOW:

Buy using PayPal. Then, after you have received the item, file a claim with PayPal and use these magic words: ''NOT AS DESCRIBED.'' PayPal will immediately put a HOLD on the money in the seller’s account--just for you. Next, send back an empty box, for proof of return of course. After that’s done, PayPal will instantly give the buyer their money back, every time. My friends and I have claimed thousands of dollars in free stuff off eBay this way.

Also, ''NOT AS DESCRIBED'' works in cases of buyer’s remorse. It doesn’t matter if the item is described accurately, or even if the seller has a “no return” policy. PayPal is so stupid, they will refund your money back again, and again, and again. You won’t believe how easy it is. Thank you PayPal, you are a real pal. :D

This is not a joke. If you don’t believe me, try it one time, you’ll see.
EbaySeller.
EbaySeller.
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
I have dealt with scammer like techslinger, many times.
It's very easy yo solve.
When you receive your empty box, go directly to a police station, and file a police report, including the name and address of the scammer. I had to guys arrested, because they did it to a lot of seller.
After that, fax the police report to paypal, this will make sure that they won't  get any money back, and will goes on their paypal record. And will get shutdown.
If you don't do that, these morons will do it to someone else.
Also, publish their name and address, phone numbers, on all the internet black list. They will start crying like little b***hes when they see that.
If they smack you one time, smack them 10 times, that's what I goes by.
Trainer Guy
Trainer Guy
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
I had someone buy 2 days of training, and got paid, then the lady canceled 1 day before the training, I told her no refunds.  She filled with Paypal, and they agreed with me.  Then she filled with her credit card company and said she would not pay.  Paypal reversed the charges and mad my paypal acount negative in the 1000's.  Knowing how paypal works, I went and put a hold on my bank account.  No for months I have been getting e-mails asking me to reactivate my back account so they may take the money.  I just closed the account Friaday, and today I got a call from 651-204-1349.  I did not answer it, but I can see from the other responces that this is going to be a pain in the ...
John
John
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
Josh is obviously affiliated with this company and he is trying to tell people that it is a legit company - they called me today and said I owed $75 on an account I haven't used in 5 years, they knew my email and cell number - they called twice before and left no message - they said a letter would come to my house from paypal (be ware a letter will be sent and it is not really from pay pal) then if you tell them you are suspicious then they just tell you they are an outside collection company and refer you to pay pal, they actually give you the pay pal number - so I called pay pal and they told me their collections agencies will always give you added levels of security such as your acct number, info on past transactions, and they will explain why you owe they money - all this scam company does is say - I am not sure why you owe but it is a negative balance - watch out for the guy named "Josh" above he is most likely affiliated with the scam collections agency
Monica
Monica
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
They always hang up after i answer..if i answer
they call at least 3 times a day
i don't know why!
it drives me insane...
Tif
Tif
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
I just started getting these calls last week. Ebay actually called me and said they were ebay (and it was from a 888 number) these people 651-204-1349...ugh...don't leave a message or anything. When I called them back, they said they were with IC Systems and wouldn't tell me anything else unless I gave them my phone number to see what they were calling about. I got pissed. Now im reading all these posts and realizing that I HAVE NO BALANCE WITH EBAY OR PAYPAL. This is where im glad that I have lawyers in the family because im seriously starting to get pissed. Plus they are calling my boyfriend, who has nothing to do with this. These people need to go to hell.
Sherlock
Sherlock
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
They call every day, several times a day. When we answer, there is nobody on the other side. After 4-5 seconds of silence they hang up.
someone
someone
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
block the people the are annoying calling all the time
Janie
Janie
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
651-204-1349. Paypal. I owe them nothing and have explained by telephone and email. They do not listen. Let them now explain to my state's attorney general's office. They call constantly.
Louie
Louie
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
651-204-1349. Paypal. Auto-Dialers.
Horace
Horace
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
Paypal using IC Systems to call me for $29.95 for shoes I bought on E-Bay. Shoes I got were size 8 on left and size 6 for right. I returned to shipper after emailing her for a matching size 6 but she didn't have one. She wanted to send me a matching size 8 but that is too large. So I sent both shoes back to shipper and got credit card company to credit my account. Shipper said I should have waited because she would have gotten in a size 6 from Hong Kong in 60 to 90 days. I ahve no shoes because they went back and now this company harrasses me. This must stop and I will call authorities. I cancelled my Paypal and EBAY accounts.
Richard
Richard
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
I got a new number from Vonage about six months ago, and ever since IC Systems has called it 3-6 times a day, seven days a week, month in and month out.  The first few times they left messages for someone I never heard of.  I bought a TrueCall unit from an outfit in the UK, and now my phone never rings when these idiots call.  It's amazing we can't get the FCC, FTC or the Fair Credit Collections Practices Act to protect us from these thugs.
(EX) eBay and paypal consumer
(EX) eBay and paypal consumer
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
as we all know dealing with people that are, for all intensive purposes (annoymous). you somewhat take your chances on being ripped off or taken advantage of. true some people take advantage of this,however I have to say with the exception of one creep who did in fact take advantage of the paypal system to screw me... ohh and BTW depending on where your located.. some police officers will look at you and say "well how do we know (you) didnt take the item out of the box?" point being, they are no help to you! Every single other peron I have ever done busisness with has been fair and down right pleasant. it seems to me the problems with Ebay and paypal is that there is absolutley no security for the seller... you would think a multi billion dollar outfit would realize if the sells bail , you have no company!!! hense no outfit to embezzle from... I think (john donahoe) (owner of Ebay and paypal) need to do alittle prison time!!!
Sean
Sean
2011-06-06 20:53:48
Unknown
They just called me at 9:20 am on a SUNDAY!  That is illegal on a SUNDAY is it not?  Of so what should I do?
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