661-458-8195
CA, US
 | LMAO 2011-06-06 20:53:54 Unknown |
This people been calling my sister & said the same thing, then when I called & threatening them to file a complaint with my local police & my state attorney office the man said go right ahead that's what I want you to do & hung up on me. These people can't speak good English but making threats lmao too funny
| indian 2011-06-06 20:53:54 Unknown |
this is all scam buisness i want that who so ever read this msg in usa plz tell others that this is a scam buisness been operated from india. there are some m0ther f***er indians who are operating this buisness and harrasing the innocent people no matter the no is 9098950005 or 6614588195 or 8506651003 or 8052651003 plz dont reply to this no and convey my msg to all other people.
from: - an helping indian
from: - an helping indian
| Casey FN Ryback 2011-03-29 19:23:25 Unknown |
get ready, heres another number, just got it today, 661- 207-6408, David Ball, or something like that, same accent, ending with good luck
| doc_824 2010-12-03 22:57:23 Unknown |
Wow, just got a call from these same dipsticks. Said I have fraudulently used an email account to have money transferred by EFT to a checking account, money laundering, on and on. I finally told them to f*** off and go to hell, and to bring it on.
| Beckie 2010-12-03 15:41:20 Unknown |
Phone number was 661-458-8195
| Beckie 2010-12-03 15:40:26 Debt Collector |
Had the same thing this morning on my cell # it came up with a 000 caller ID and called my home number. It was a middle eastern mans voice telling me that he wants to talk to me immediately or my attorney. And do not disregard this.. if I do all he could do is wish me the best of luck. I have no payday loans and never have nor is any showing up on my credit report.. I am going to call back for giggles but I will not pay anyone any money unless then can provide me with proof and with a certified letter. I called my attorney (who is my friend) and she stated that if this was real that I would have gotten a certified letter in the mail, esp if I needed to show up for court.!
| Hicky 2010-12-02 22:56:52 Unknown |
Yhey are nothing but scammers
| jackie 2010-12-02 16:03:04 Debt Collector |
I received a call from this number this morning, saying her name is Susan, which
she is not american, because she has a middle eastern accent, probably Indian.
She said the same thing many others have posted, that either my attorney or myself
need to contact them at this number immediately. If i disregaard this message, all
she can do is wish me good luck.
These people have been calling me on and off for months now, and i just plain ignore
them.
I don't answer the phone, if it's an out of state area code, or listed as unavailable.
They called my employer, and after explaining to them, that this is a scam, and
a fraud company, they told the people calling, that i no longer work there, which is
what i instructed them to tell them.
They also got ahold of my immediate manager, and he told them to stop calling me
and that they can't keep calling me at work, because it's harassment, and if they
continued to do so, he would file a law suit against them, and having done these
two things, they no longer call me at work, just my cell phone.
As far as payday loans go, i have applied, but only to those, who had A+ ratings
with the BBB. I never applied to any with untrusted sites.
I currently have three outstanding payday loans, and those are all with high ratings
with the BBB. All other payday loans that i had, have all been paid for, and i have
the proof that they have been.
As far as banking info goes, they can't get that, because that is all encrypted information.
Like someone else said, if they wanted to drain your banking account, they would
have already done it, but like i said, they can't because of the encryption.
If you ignore them long enough, they will go away sooner or later. Just stop answering
the phone, and let your callers go to voicemail, and then return only those calls
that are legitimate.
she is not american, because she has a middle eastern accent, probably Indian.
She said the same thing many others have posted, that either my attorney or myself
need to contact them at this number immediately. If i disregaard this message, all
she can do is wish me good luck.
These people have been calling me on and off for months now, and i just plain ignore
them.
I don't answer the phone, if it's an out of state area code, or listed as unavailable.
They called my employer, and after explaining to them, that this is a scam, and
a fraud company, they told the people calling, that i no longer work there, which is
what i instructed them to tell them.
They also got ahold of my immediate manager, and he told them to stop calling me
and that they can't keep calling me at work, because it's harassment, and if they
continued to do so, he would file a law suit against them, and having done these
two things, they no longer call me at work, just my cell phone.
As far as payday loans go, i have applied, but only to those, who had A+ ratings
with the BBB. I never applied to any with untrusted sites.
I currently have three outstanding payday loans, and those are all with high ratings
with the BBB. All other payday loans that i had, have all been paid for, and i have
the proof that they have been.
As far as banking info goes, they can't get that, because that is all encrypted information.
Like someone else said, if they wanted to drain your banking account, they would
have already done it, but like i said, they can't because of the encryption.
If you ignore them long enough, they will go away sooner or later. Just stop answering
the phone, and let your callers go to voicemail, and then return only those calls
that are legitimate.
| The Saint 2010-11-30 23:32:00 Unknown |
For at least the last four years, possibly longer, a group has been calling former payday loan applicants advising them that they have defrauded a bank and are now being sued for non-payment of a loan. The callers will claim to be calling on behalf of an attorney's office (name varies), the Dept. of Law and Investigation, ACS, or other similar combinations below:
United Legal Processing Division
Midline Marketing
Crime Monitoring Services
Monetary Crime Division
U.S. National Bank
Attorney General?s Office (usually in California)
American Legal Services
Affidavit Consolidation Services (ACS)
You will be threatened with arrest, a costly trial and possibly worse. In no shape, way or form can you be arrested for non-payment on a consumer debt. Do not believe these threats, as they are without merit and cannot be carried out in the manner they allege.
Who are they?
In the past when pressed by law enforcement for an address, the callers have provided the following information:
David Morgan and Associates
Morgan & Associates
Morgan Associates
954-727-8481
1155 Northwest 85th Street
Wintergarden, Florida 33150
(Address is likely invalid)
The collector's MO matches a once legit collections agency called Ellis Crosby & Associates. Here are some links on them:
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/ellis_crosby_and_associates.htm
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/EllisCrosbyJudgment.pdf
They have been previously fined over $1.3 million for various violations. They have been known to use phone banks in India to make their calls, which more or less coincides with the difficult to understand accent many of us detect when we are contacted.
The last time this group went by any "official" name was back in 2008:
Ellis Crosby & Associates / Douglas & Morgan Associates
4494 Southside Boulevard Suite #200
Jacksonville Florida 32216
Phone: 800-928-3536 / (904) 928-3536
(Address is likely invalid)
There are NUMEROUS consumer alerts out against this group of individuals:
Florida:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/061107/met_176207561.shtml
Kansas:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html
Colorado:
http://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/ ... lls_likely_orig
Rhode Island:
http://www.collectionscreditrisk.com/news/rho ... -3002135-1.html
West Virginia:
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
Missouri:
On July 15th, 2010 a Public Awareness Bulletin was sent out by Missouri Information Analysis Center.
"..received reports from individuals in Ohio and Illinois reference suspicious telephone calls they received. In both instances, the callers are reporting that a voicemail is received from a man, with a Middle Eastern accent, identifying himself as an officer working with the Financial Crimes Unit. The message indicates that the reason for the call concerns a loan made by the receiver or someone in the receiver's family. The voicemail requests that a return call be made and a telephone number is provided. When a return call is made, the caller is asked to provide personal identifying information such as their date of birth and social security number.
Reports indicate that the calls are frequent and persistent and that they even threaten arrest or legal action if information or money is not provided. It appears that the individuals making these calls may have access to some records connecting individuals and their relatives. Missouri does not have a Financial Crimes Unit and all indications are that this is a fictitious agency. If you receive a similar phone call, please be advised that it is a scam and please contact your local law enforcement agency or the Missouri Information Analysis Center at 866-362-6422."
Bottom line:
Do not supply the callers with any additional information. Inform them you have reported them to law enforcement and hang up. If you haven't already, go ahead and report the calls to local law enforcement, your state's Attorney General and beyond. Look up the local Secret Service branch's information in your area and get in contact with an agent there.
If you ever applied for a cash advance online, your information is out there.
Possible sources for the breach of your privacy are:
* The scammers obtained your information from Teletrack - a reporting agency used by many cash advance lenders to determine their risk lending to you. The service is able to tell cash advance lenders if you have existing loans with other companies, for example. Many state laws prohibit borrowers from having more than two cash advances out at the same time.
* The scammers created their own fake payday loan application site. People looking for a cash advance went to the site and applied, thus freely providing the scammers with their information for malicious use at a later time.
* The scammers were able to get into the database(s) of cash advance lenders - probable targets being Sonic Payday and Cashnet USA.
How to protect yourself:
* Inform your employer. You are likely getting calls at home and/or at work, so make sure your employer is aware the calls are part of a scam and to not take them seriously. Advise the callers that they are no longer allowed to call you at work. If they continue to call, document the date and time of the calls you received. Save voice mails left if at all possible.
* Change your number(s). For some this may not be an option, for others a one-time number change can be done free of charge.
Be advised - any references you listed on your payday loan application will be contacted. Let those people know that this is a scam, and they can disregard.
* Use Google Voice. Google Voice is a great replacement voice mail system for just about any phone number you use. Messages can be transcribed and voice mail recordings can be saved as mp3 files.
Pro Tip - call the scammers with a Google Voice number before turning off your old phone numbers. Make sure when you call you identify yourself so they can start up their script. At any point after they have your information pulled up just hang up. They will then start religiously calling your Google Voice number. At this point, you are free to change your regular phone number(s) and enjoy not having these people ever call you again. (And laugh at the fact these people are basically talking to a brick wall several times a day)
The scammers change their numbers frequently. Law enforcement used to think it was because the callers ran out of minutes on their prepaid wireless accounts or they were shuttered due to fraud, but now they understand it's simply to evade detection by savvy consumers online. With the proliferation of VoIP, it's even easier for the crooks to stay a couple of steps ahead of law enforcement. Below is just a sampling of the 30+ numbers that have been used in recent memory.
1-201-244-7722
1-209-349-7382
1-209-797-2212
1-212-500-0839
1-213-256-0408
1-213-995-3039
1-281-763-0433
1-347-289-3902
1-347-844-6817
1-347-844-6831
1-424-354-4270
1-516-232-8905
1-516-232-8935
1-518-212-0219
1-561-300-8018
1-561-210-4185
1-626-200-4646
1-631-456-4041
1-646-274-1143
1-646-810-8635
1-650-241-4604
1-707-401-4056
1-707-633-2789
1-708-401-0535
1-716-442-2824
1-717-862-4080
1-718-705-8669
1-760-514-0132
1-760-563-5384
1-772-318-4938
1-850-201-1111
1-858-777-1977
1-859-908-2281
1-866-860-4509
1-877-226-7488
1-888-706-7463
1-888-771-9249
1-888-785-4479
1-909-327-4870
So can they really do anything to you?
It's not a simple yes or no answer. Logic dictates that, if they really wanted to take you for a ride and drain your bank accounts, they already would have.
So, why haven't they?
Authorization.
Why do you think you are being called so much? Perhaps it is because they like the sound of your voice? No, they have to have your authorization to take any form of payment from you, period. The callers know their audience, and that audience is typically a bunch of people that have applied for payday loans in the past. Most of those people they call couldn't afford an attorney if they wanted one, and are so used to receiving collections calls that so long as they sound like a real collector, they will likely be perceived as one.
Furthermore, they don't even really want to talk to your attorney - that just sounds official and scary enough. A real attorney would take the callers to task and write them off as two-bit con artists. The callers need you, in writing, to authorize payment against the fictitious debt they claim you owe. Go ahead, ask them for proof you owe the debt - more commonly known as verification of debt. See what they say. A phone authorization carries very little weight, so if they have something signed by you on file, you are done for - and the callers know that. That authorization is the only thing these callers are doing by the book, and for good reason. If they just went all willy nilly and made an ACH debit from your checking account, without your written approval, you could in turn report the transaction as fraudulent to your financial institution. In about 7-10 business days, you would get the funds returned to your account. Then the scammers would be up against a bank and their team of lawyers and investigators.
Bottom line:
If you haven't paid the callers a dime, don't. If you planned on paying them to shut them up, just don't. Remember - you are not being contacted by a legally licensed, ethically owned and operated collector. Read up on the FDCPA - http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre27.pdf - and know your rights.
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143/3
United Legal Processing Division
Midline Marketing
Crime Monitoring Services
Monetary Crime Division
U.S. National Bank
Attorney General?s Office (usually in California)
American Legal Services
Affidavit Consolidation Services (ACS)
You will be threatened with arrest, a costly trial and possibly worse. In no shape, way or form can you be arrested for non-payment on a consumer debt. Do not believe these threats, as they are without merit and cannot be carried out in the manner they allege.
Who are they?
In the past when pressed by law enforcement for an address, the callers have provided the following information:
David Morgan and Associates
Morgan & Associates
Morgan Associates
954-727-8481
1155 Northwest 85th Street
Wintergarden, Florida 33150
(Address is likely invalid)
The collector's MO matches a once legit collections agency called Ellis Crosby & Associates. Here are some links on them:
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/ellis_crosby_and_associates.htm
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/EllisCrosbyJudgment.pdf
They have been previously fined over $1.3 million for various violations. They have been known to use phone banks in India to make their calls, which more or less coincides with the difficult to understand accent many of us detect when we are contacted.
The last time this group went by any "official" name was back in 2008:
Ellis Crosby & Associates / Douglas & Morgan Associates
4494 Southside Boulevard Suite #200
Jacksonville Florida 32216
Phone: 800-928-3536 / (904) 928-3536
(Address is likely invalid)
There are NUMEROUS consumer alerts out against this group of individuals:
Florida:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/061107/met_176207561.shtml
Kansas:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html
Colorado:
http://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/ ... lls_likely_orig
Rhode Island:
http://www.collectionscreditrisk.com/news/rho ... -3002135-1.html
West Virginia:
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
Missouri:
On July 15th, 2010 a Public Awareness Bulletin was sent out by Missouri Information Analysis Center.
"..received reports from individuals in Ohio and Illinois reference suspicious telephone calls they received. In both instances, the callers are reporting that a voicemail is received from a man, with a Middle Eastern accent, identifying himself as an officer working with the Financial Crimes Unit. The message indicates that the reason for the call concerns a loan made by the receiver or someone in the receiver's family. The voicemail requests that a return call be made and a telephone number is provided. When a return call is made, the caller is asked to provide personal identifying information such as their date of birth and social security number.
Reports indicate that the calls are frequent and persistent and that they even threaten arrest or legal action if information or money is not provided. It appears that the individuals making these calls may have access to some records connecting individuals and their relatives. Missouri does not have a Financial Crimes Unit and all indications are that this is a fictitious agency. If you receive a similar phone call, please be advised that it is a scam and please contact your local law enforcement agency or the Missouri Information Analysis Center at 866-362-6422."
Bottom line:
Do not supply the callers with any additional information. Inform them you have reported them to law enforcement and hang up. If you haven't already, go ahead and report the calls to local law enforcement, your state's Attorney General and beyond. Look up the local Secret Service branch's information in your area and get in contact with an agent there.
If you ever applied for a cash advance online, your information is out there.
Possible sources for the breach of your privacy are:
* The scammers obtained your information from Teletrack - a reporting agency used by many cash advance lenders to determine their risk lending to you. The service is able to tell cash advance lenders if you have existing loans with other companies, for example. Many state laws prohibit borrowers from having more than two cash advances out at the same time.
* The scammers created their own fake payday loan application site. People looking for a cash advance went to the site and applied, thus freely providing the scammers with their information for malicious use at a later time.
* The scammers were able to get into the database(s) of cash advance lenders - probable targets being Sonic Payday and Cashnet USA.
How to protect yourself:
* Inform your employer. You are likely getting calls at home and/or at work, so make sure your employer is aware the calls are part of a scam and to not take them seriously. Advise the callers that they are no longer allowed to call you at work. If they continue to call, document the date and time of the calls you received. Save voice mails left if at all possible.
* Change your number(s). For some this may not be an option, for others a one-time number change can be done free of charge.
Be advised - any references you listed on your payday loan application will be contacted. Let those people know that this is a scam, and they can disregard.
* Use Google Voice. Google Voice is a great replacement voice mail system for just about any phone number you use. Messages can be transcribed and voice mail recordings can be saved as mp3 files.
Pro Tip - call the scammers with a Google Voice number before turning off your old phone numbers. Make sure when you call you identify yourself so they can start up their script. At any point after they have your information pulled up just hang up. They will then start religiously calling your Google Voice number. At this point, you are free to change your regular phone number(s) and enjoy not having these people ever call you again. (And laugh at the fact these people are basically talking to a brick wall several times a day)
The scammers change their numbers frequently. Law enforcement used to think it was because the callers ran out of minutes on their prepaid wireless accounts or they were shuttered due to fraud, but now they understand it's simply to evade detection by savvy consumers online. With the proliferation of VoIP, it's even easier for the crooks to stay a couple of steps ahead of law enforcement. Below is just a sampling of the 30+ numbers that have been used in recent memory.
1-201-244-7722
1-209-349-7382
1-209-797-2212
1-212-500-0839
1-213-256-0408
1-213-995-3039
1-281-763-0433
1-347-289-3902
1-347-844-6817
1-347-844-6831
1-424-354-4270
1-516-232-8905
1-516-232-8935
1-518-212-0219
1-561-300-8018
1-561-210-4185
1-626-200-4646
1-631-456-4041
1-646-274-1143
1-646-810-8635
1-650-241-4604
1-707-401-4056
1-707-633-2789
1-708-401-0535
1-716-442-2824
1-717-862-4080
1-718-705-8669
1-760-514-0132
1-760-563-5384
1-772-318-4938
1-850-201-1111
1-858-777-1977
1-859-908-2281
1-866-860-4509
1-877-226-7488
1-888-706-7463
1-888-771-9249
1-888-785-4479
1-909-327-4870
So can they really do anything to you?
It's not a simple yes or no answer. Logic dictates that, if they really wanted to take you for a ride and drain your bank accounts, they already would have.
So, why haven't they?
Authorization.
Why do you think you are being called so much? Perhaps it is because they like the sound of your voice? No, they have to have your authorization to take any form of payment from you, period. The callers know their audience, and that audience is typically a bunch of people that have applied for payday loans in the past. Most of those people they call couldn't afford an attorney if they wanted one, and are so used to receiving collections calls that so long as they sound like a real collector, they will likely be perceived as one.
Furthermore, they don't even really want to talk to your attorney - that just sounds official and scary enough. A real attorney would take the callers to task and write them off as two-bit con artists. The callers need you, in writing, to authorize payment against the fictitious debt they claim you owe. Go ahead, ask them for proof you owe the debt - more commonly known as verification of debt. See what they say. A phone authorization carries very little weight, so if they have something signed by you on file, you are done for - and the callers know that. That authorization is the only thing these callers are doing by the book, and for good reason. If they just went all willy nilly and made an ACH debit from your checking account, without your written approval, you could in turn report the transaction as fraudulent to your financial institution. In about 7-10 business days, you would get the funds returned to your account. Then the scammers would be up against a bank and their team of lawyers and investigators.
Bottom line:
If you haven't paid the callers a dime, don't. If you planned on paying them to shut them up, just don't. Remember - you are not being contacted by a legally licensed, ethically owned and operated collector. Read up on the FDCPA - http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre27.pdf - and know your rights.
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143/3
| Kim 2010-11-30 23:15:36 Unknown |
OMG, I receives the same message on Thanksgiving eve and they said the same thing and that I was being sued for 8,321 from a payday loan in September of 2010... They said they got me up for three counts....THEFT BY DECEPTION, FRADULENT LOAN, AND ETC...Then they had the nerve to tell me that they will pick me up at my job and I will lose my job...Then they said that I will have to come to court on Monday...I aked what court house, but they kept trying to over talk me...SCAM SCAM SCAM....
| Melissa 2010-11-30 18:10:21 Unknown |
ditto for me, left a message with all the same info - said name was Ron Williams. Scam, scam, scam. I did try calling back to tell them I don't pay a thing without proof and you just get a Google Voice subscriber message.
| Vickie Anderson 2010-11-23 17:45:18 Unknown |
661-458-8195 This aribic gentleman called my daughter and said that she had to meet him at the courthouse and give him a thousand dollars and of course the local police want nothing to do with this...everybody who gets a call your best bet is to keep posting on line he will get tired of be bashed on the interent and move on.
| johnny 2010-11-20 17:17:28 Unknown |
yeah, i got a call on this one yesterday. they sounded very much like from another country. its my understanding that they cannot go after you and collect it..very wierd
| Mel 2010-11-19 20:54:48 Unknown |
These idiots have been calling me for at least a month. The first time their names were "Shawn Smith and Kevin Brown". This time it was a "Brian Taylor". They left me a vm saying myself or my attorney need to call them back or all they can say is they feel sorry for me. I called back and they told me (again) that I have taken out a payday loan that I need to repay, or I will have court papers on my doorstep in two days (which of course never happened). I told them, not so nicely that I've never taken out a payday loan, and that I've already filed a police report and would be happy to file another one. They keep telling me they're from Massachusetts, and the first round they were "federal crime investigators" (which the cops got a kick out of) and this time they are the "legal dept of affidavit consolidation supervisors". Clearly none of them are American, yet all have generic names.
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