661-524-5718
CA, US
Alfalfa
Alfalfa
2012-08-15 20:23:26
Unknown
Phantom Debt Collectors From India Harass Americans, Demand Money

By BRIAN ROSS (@brianross) , CINDY GALLI and MATTHEW MOSK (@mattmosk)
June 7, 2012

Hundreds of thousands of cash-strapped Americans have been targeted by abusive debt collectors operating out of overseas call centers suspected of links to organized crime in India, law enforcement officials told ABC News.

The calls are part of a massive scam, one that appears to target struggling Americans -- especially those who have gone online to apply for payday loans. Armed with personal information from those pilfered applications, the threatening callers, who claim to be debt collectors poised to initiate legal action, have managed to pry loose millions of dollars from their victims -- even when the victims never owed money in the first place.

"This is what we call a phantom debt collection scam," said Jon Leibowitz, the chairman of the Federal Trade Commission. "It's a very pernicious and innovative new fraud."

Working through call centers in India, the commission estimates that the criminals have dialed at least 2.5 million calls, persuading already cash-strapped victims to send them more than $5 million. Some have reported receiving dozens of calls per hour. They are victims like Cindy Gervais, of New Orleans, who went online for a quick loan when her husband's car was hit by a driver who didn't have insurance.

Even though she paid the loan off, the so-called "phantom" debt collectors with Indian accents began calling to say she still owed money.

He more or less told me that if I didn't pay, they were going to have someone on my doorstep to arrest me," she told ABC News. "And that they were going to contact my place of business, and tell them what kind of person I am."

At first, she said she resisted. Then the calls became more frequent, and started to ring on her cell phone, and at the grocery distribution company where she had worked for 27 years.

"I was more or less was in panic mode because he told me there would be someone before noon at my place of business to arrest me and take me to jail," she said tearfully. "So I agreed to pay him."

After receiving scores of complaints, investigators with the FTC said they began tracking the calls, and following the payments. They alleged the payments led them to a California company run by an Indian-American named Kirit Patel, and that such scams would not be possible without American front men.

"I would say that all roads of this scam, or many of the roads of this scam, lead back to Mr. Patel," said the FTC's Leibowitz.

ABC News tracked Patel for weeks, from the suburbs of San Francisco to Austin, Texas.

Patel refused to talk. But his lawyer, Mark Ellis, said he believes it is far too early to pass judgment on his client. Ellis, a Sacramento-based attorney, told ABC News that Patel was hired for a nominal fee to set up an American shell company, and had no idea what the call centers in India were doing.

"I can tell you, he was as snookered by the people in India as anybody," Ellis said. "He's a 69-year-old man who is nearing his retirement who thought all he had to do was set up some corporations and everything was on the up and up. He's completely dismayed that he has become the lightning rod of this entire problem."

A close friend of Patel's also defended him in a brief interview at his home, saying Patel was not trying to defraud anyone -- he was just an unwitting, bit player in a larger scheme.

"If Mr. Patel was just a cog in the wheel he seems to have been a pretty big cog," Leibowitz said. "It is clear that Patel was integrally involved with this scam."

Leibowitz points to thousands of pages of financial and phone records gathered by the FTC and filed as part of a civil case brought against him in the U.S. District Court in Sacramento last month. When FTC lawyers sought to freeze his assets and prevent his business from continuing to operate, Patel responded by invoking his rights against self-incrimination. His lawyer told ABC News he has had to be careful in how he responds to the allegations in civil court "because there is a potential criminal action," but that Patel maintains the allegations against him are false.

Federal investigators said the phantom debt collection operation that allegedly benefitted from Patel's assistance was one of several that all trace back to the same small town in Western India called Ahmedabad. Callers use technology to make it appear that the calls originate inside the U.S. Victims provided ABC News with recordings of dozens of the calls, and many of the thickly accented callers appear to be reading off a script.

"Subpoenas have been readied, and Monday morning you're going to be picked up from your home," one caller says on a victim's voicemail. "And you have children. Don't worry about your children. We have a childcare department to take care of the children."

"You will be behind bars for six months," said another caller. "And once you go behind bars, you will lose your job. Once you are behind the bars, you won't get a single drop of water."

William Peerce Howard, a Tampa attorney who represents victims of harassment from debt collectors, said it takes an especially twisted criminal to use threats and coercion to pry money from someone who is already struggling financially

"These guys really are the most visible villains in America today," he said. "They make a living scaring people."

Mark Merola, of Florida, said he just panicked when the caller told him he might be arrested at the deli where he works in a Florida retirement community.

"I was nervous. I didn't want to embarrass myself, my family," he said. He used his debit card to pay the collector $576.

Afterwards, he says he realized "how stupid I was."

"It just happened so fast," he said. "I got scared."

Leibowitz said he hopes with more attention, future potential targets of the scam will recognize red flags before they turn over any money.

If callers say they are from the police, consumers should know that law enforcement officers do not collect debt for private parties. If the caller is speaking with a thick Indian accent, but calls themselves by a names such as Officer Mike Johnson, that should be a tip off. And if they're calling 40 times in two hours, that's another red flag. "Legitimate debt collectors, legitimate pay day lenders don't do those sorts of things," he said.

Merola said he would like to see anyone involved in the scam prosecuted aggressively.

"There's no place in society for these people," he said.Call Type: Debt Collector
La la
La la
2012-08-15 20:19:39
Unknown
Got a call from 707-633-0801 saying his name was patrick stone calling from marshall and fieldman saying I have 5 fraud charges thus is the second time they've tried to do this I told them to stop calling because you are not getting money from me
KPP
KPP
2012-01-27 15:07:35
Unknown
Got a call from the same law firm repeatedly this morning: 626-466-0143  with numerous messages left. The messages stated felony charges, supeona's and cash advances. I called the number back and spoke with what appeared to be a non english speaking person. I asked to speak with an  attorney whom i could understand. The person then became very difficult. I also asked where was this cash advance done at and when. The person put me on hold and then started back over again as if he was reading from a script. He asked me ? in which i refused to answer let alone acknowledge several ? Went to the internet and found this site now have reported this scam
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 03:04:36
Unknown
These scammers seem 2 B preying on any1 who has had or applied 4 an online payday loan in the past. That's how they get all UR info. Since these loans R made from other states & U pay these type of loans back via ACH debit from UR checking account, scammers figure that most people won't even know or remember if/when they paid it back. Most people R just gonna B like, "OMG I thought I paid off this loan months/years ago, but Gee-Whiz I better resolve this ASAP B4 I am prosecuted by Marshall & Fieldman cuz that really sounds like a legit law firm!!!"
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 02:58:44
Unknown
Well Bart, it's now almost 30 days after UR post, & did U ever receive that "federal summons/supeona" that they threatened 2 send 2 U in 3-4 days? I didn't think so....It's all a big scam my friend.  They tried 2 get me and almost got me 2 fax all my bank/debit card/SS info 2 them in order 2 stop them from "downloading" my case 2 the courthouse. I faked them out & told them that I had faxed the document 2 them twice when I really didn't & advised them that something must B wrong with their fax machine but I did attempt 2 fax the IOU 2 them so it's wasn't my fault it was on them. "The attorney" then asked if I really wanted 2 settle the case or not & he would B sending a summons in 3-4 days.....That was over a month ago & the calls stopped as well. Guess they moved on 2 the next. Their number is now no longer in service as well. I'm trying 2 spread the word as much as I can.
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 02:51:17
Unknown
U gotta wonder Y each & every Google search, MapQuest search, CA legal search, or 411 search any1 has done 4 "Marshall & Fieldman, 7621 Mission Center Ct Suite 106, San Diego CA 92101" or 4 the phone number "661-524-5718" turns up NADA, ZILCH, ZERO, NOTHING, STUGATS. The only "hits" U get 4 this "law firm" R on scammer blogs like this.
Also, it's amazing how every single person I spoke with at "Marshall & Fieldman" in SoCal has the heaviest Middle Eastern accent but at the same time they all have the most American-sounding names, like "Brian Scott" or "Edward Joseph".
Incidentally, that phone number is now disconnected/call cannot B completed. It's all BS.
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 02:35:18
Unknown
Def right Steve.....These jokers from "Marshall & Fieldman" used all those tricks: 2 prove 2 me he was "downloading" my case file 2 or from the "courthouse" he loudly shuffled/juggled papers on the other end of the phone 2 sound official
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 02:31:05
Unknown
Good post TD! I'll bet U that "Officer Eduardo Joseph from California" had a very heavy Middle Eastern accent, right? These scammers R funny!!!
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 02:28:24
Unknown
These people probably aren't even calling from California, but upon constant questioning, I was able 2 obtain an "address" 4 "Marshall & Fieldman" from 1 of the "attornies" I spoke with. Even when I put their entire name & address in2 an internet search, I get NADA hits except on these scam blogs, although the address they give does exist. I think it's a suite in an office/retail complex of some sort. Nevertheless, & regardless of whether they R calling from California, India, or the planet Mars, it's all a big, steaming, load of crap. And if some of these folks on here really did receive court papers from them, I hope they will share some of the details with the rest of us.
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 02:20:01
Unknown
Mrs. Smith, this is most def a total scam. I am going 2 post as much as possible about this. Read some of my other posts--Everything they said 2 U is exactly identical 2 what they said 2 me. My guess is that U, like I, do not live in California, specifically Bakersfield, Palmdale, Santa Clarita, or Lancaster, cuz that makes it less likely 4 us 2 just drive over 2 "Marshall & Fieldman" in order 2 resolve this face 2 face. I live in PA, so the threat of being sued by the state of CA & "federally prosecuted" from across the country with no1 2 meet with or talk 2 B4 being "summoned 2 court" is much more intimidating.
I have applied 4 several online loans in the past, & that is most likely how they obtained my info.
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 02:06:46
Unknown
Ever since I applied online 4 a couple of loans, I have been bombarded by calls from reps with the heaviest Middle Eastern accents but with the most ridiculously extreme American names (No offense). Calls telling me that I owe money, calls that I am eligible 4 school grants, calls that I have been approved 4 auto loans, etc. Sometimes I hang up on them immediately, & other times I play along. The funniest was when I got a call from Antigua or Morocco (My cell phone has Caller ID/City ID & apparently these perticular scammers were unable 2 "spoof" caller ID) & this guy claims he is calling me as an agent of the US Government. I start asking him how R U calling me on behalf of the US Goverment when he was calling from another country? He gets mad & says how do I know where he's calling from & starts trying 2 get all official. I start cracking up at him so he starts swaering at me in his heavy accent then hangs up on me.....Now what kind of a way is that 4 a "US Goverment official" 2 act?
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 01:52:41
Unknown
lostboards, DO NOT send them any money or give them any info til U can actually call & talk 2 some1 on the other end that can provide U with details. When I asked "Marshall & Fieldman" 4 further info on what I owed, they said they couldn't give me that info, although upon further prodding I was able 2 get the name of the company I supposedly owed & I was also able 2 coerce the attorney's address out of him (And mind U when I Google the lawyer's entire name & address, I still get no hits at that address, which is in an office/retail complex. When I asked them 2 send me something in the mail, they said that it was 2 late 4 that, as the legal filing papers were on there way 2 the courthouse as we spoke. I still have the original number they called me from (661-524-5718), & it is now NO LONGER IN SERVICE & CALL CANNOT B COMPLETED. What legal firm or debt collector suddenly disconnects their only phone? Not any legit firm, I reckon. Perhaps if we can get "Stewart" or "Lucy" 2 share some info with us, we can all get 2 the bottom of this "serious legal matter".
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 01:41:14
Unknown
Lucy, as I requested from Stewart, provide details about everything: The initial calls, the "summons"..Who, What, Where, When, Y. If U try 2 get any info on "Marshall & Fieldman" either via Google or via 411 search, U get NOTHING, ZILCH, NADA. The only hits U get 4 this firm or their phone number R on scam pages like this. Not that I don't believe U, but how do U know the docs R even legit? Better yet, what's a contact number 4 the firm? There's gotta B some contact info on UR "summons".
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 01:34:04
Unknown
Stewart, did U really get a summons from them? Did U offer 2 pay the so-called "settlement" 2 avoid the legal scandal? Did U ever wonder Y U were never contacted B4 these charges, either by mail, phone, or e-mail reminding U about paying off this "debt"? Give us some details: Name of the attorney, name of firm, location, dates, companies, county of filing, federal or state charges. How come google search brings up NADA 4 Marshall & Fieldman? How come if I call 411/661-555-1212/information & ask 4 a number, they have NOTHING listed 4 said legal firm? I was even able 2 coerce the address out of the "attorney" I spoke with, but even if I put the entire name & address in Google, there R no matches at that address 4 this firm. How come they don't have a toll-free numer or extensions like any company? How come they don't transfer calls or answer the phone like any other office does? How come if I call 661-524-5718 now, the call cannot B completed cuz the number is no longer in service? And how come every single individual who works at "Marshall & Fieldman" has an extremely heavy Middle Eastern accent but they all have the most absurdly extreme American-sounding names, like "Brian Scott" & such? Just want some answers my friend. 4 the good of all of us, provide further info.
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 01:09:58
Unknown
It's total BS (C my comments below)...If they contact U, don't even give them the time of day. Or better yet, say that UR an attorney & UR part of a sting operation 2 trap phone scammers & that UR gonna file charges against THEM.
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 01:07:32
Unknown
I was seconds away from sending these jerks all my info...I told them I didn't have the money at the moment 2 settle the "fraud case" & didn't have my debit card on me, so they said if I faxed a document with my credit card/debit card/bank info 2 them & stated in the fax that I promised 2 pay the settlement, then this would stop the "legal process", otherwise I would B summoned/subpeonaed 2 California 2 face federal & state charges.....Wow I can't believe I almost fell 4 this crap.

They get UR info online if U've ever applied 4 an online cash advance or payday-type loan. They know that most people can't remember if or when they paid these loans off cuz the companies debit the money directly out of UR account 2 pay them back, so most people R gonna B like, "Gee I coulda sworn I paid this off months/years ago, but I better get this resolved ASAP B4 I get prosecuted!!!"
Tarantulisimo
Tarantulisimo
2011-11-10 00:54:54
Unknown
About 661-524-5718: This is most def a SCAM, but I gotta admit they almost had me on the hook!!!
Un4tunately, I have had instances in the past where I have had 2 resort 2 taking out payday loans, & that is how these creeps got all my info. They claimed I owed $640-$650 2 PaydayOne/PayDay1 & if I didn't pay by end of the day, they would file charges with the state of CA & if I didn't settle this I would end up owing $6000-$7000 in legal fees & would have felony charges. They had me so worked up that I was mere seconds away from faxing them an IOU document 2 prevent them from filing "federal", "state", & "fraud" charges against me. Thank God my common sense/skepticism kicked in. I grilled them (All the "attornies" have very very heavy accents but they all have ridiculously extreme American-sounding names, which is a red flag) until they at least gave me the name of the company I allegedly owed this money 2, then I called them directly 2 make sure I had nothing outstanding, which I did not. I then googled the name of the "law firm" (Marshall & Fieldman of California) but got no hits whatsoever. I called them back & amazingly no1 answers the phone or transfers calls like a real law firm or like any office would. I went back & 4th with the "lawyers" trying 2 get more info on who they really were, & they kept threatening that they had the court documents right there in front of them & how was I going 2 come 2 "California" 2 defend myself when I live in PA? The conversation got so ridiculous that I finally realized that it was total BS. If U try 2 call the number now, it has been disconnected, so that means they R using another number.
jerry
jerry
2011-11-04 19:24:26
Unknown
Loriane Edwards is ellen wilson calling from anand gujarat india
do u think ellen tht im fool and we all people wont come to know who ur and from where u r calling better stop such types of business or else u have to face a hugh problem :P
rock
rock
2011-11-01 00:04:38
Unknown
I got a call from this guy over the weekend & so did my parents I called the local FBI & was told this was a scam. You need to call and report this to your local FBI office.
Called their bluff
Called their bluff
2011-10-24 14:38:27
Unknown
The lawfirm is Marshall Obleen called said that there was a case against my sir name and family gave me the family members name, when I called back and asked what it was pertaining to they asked for my phone number, I told them they called me and gave them the sir name, refused to give my number- he said he needed my # to look up the case, I said you can look it up by name- is this a scam?? He quickly hung up on me, his name is Jonas Reeves with a horrible accent. Creepy individual- and he stated on the voicemail I will be going to california for a summons- Idiot!
jenifar
jenifar
2011-10-21 23:56:41
Debt Collector
This seems to be a Big Scam. I got their calls asking me for paying my debt. The person who called me, didn't even know about US Policy and he sounds like non American. I asked them information and he hang up the phone.

Do not believe their lies, do not argue with them, do not comply with their extortionist demands. Show them you know you have rights they are trampling.

Debt is a civil and not a criminal matter. No matter what you are told, no one is coming to arrest you, and you will not be jailed. There is no valid debt claim and no court order to seize your assets. You need not pay a red cent in ''settlement'' to make their inflicted pain go away. (Really, if they were that sure of your liability, wouldn't they simply hire a lawyer near you to sue for the full amount plus interest?) You will note these often barely intelligible bullies have a laughably poor understanding of American legal procedure. Their hope is that you are just as ignorant.  

After searching about this since last 1 month I found main e-mail ID: relieffinancialservices@gmail.com
The partner company is this scam is located in Dallas, TX.
Fariba
Fariba
2011-10-14 14:46:20
Debt Collector
This Guy is calling with a heavy accent from California threaten me with a summons I have not lived in california I am not sure what his BS is but I am reporting him.
6615245718
6615245718
2011-10-13 22:09:12
Unknown
This number is a fraudlent company trying to seek money from siblings etc..
6615245718
6615245718
2011-10-13 21:30:18
Unknown
Regarding a strange call to my sister in refrence to trying to contact me.
JimmyR
JimmyR
2011-10-12 00:48:14
Unknown
I filed a complaint with the FBI Fraud division online!!!  They threatened me andleft me a nasty msg.
Darla Gold
Darla Gold
2011-10-11 23:44:39
Debt Collector
This seems to be a Big Scam. I got their calls asking me for paying my debt. The person who called me, didn't even know about US Policy and he sounds like non American. I asked them information and he hang up the phone.

Do not believe their lies, do not argue with them, do not comply with their extortionist demands. Show them you know you have rights they are trampling.

Debt is a civil and not a criminal matter. No matter what you are told, no one is coming to arrest you, and you will not be jailed. There is no valid debt claim and no court order to seize your assets. You need not pay a red cent in ''settlement'' to make their inflicted pain go away. (Really, if they were that sure of your liability, wouldn't they simply hire a lawyer near you to sue for the full amount plus interest?) You will note these often barely intelligible bullies have a laughably poor understanding of American legal procedure. Their hope is that you are just as ignorant.  

After searching about this since last 1 month I found main e-mail ID: relieffinancialservices@gmail.com
The partner company is this scam is located in Dallas, TX.

Thanks

Darla Gold
Laura T
Laura T
2011-10-11 14:18:17
Debt Collector
10 October 2011  

    I received a call this am from someone representing a lawyer's office from California and they were stating I owed them money and gave me the last four #'s of my social and told me a suite was pending against my social. I hung up after telling them I knew noone in California and they called back and the # showed up as 0000 but in the beginning the # was 358-0015. I will be repoting thid to my local police dept and then to homeland security. I would suggest to everyone else to report it as well.
Bart
Bart
2011-10-10 12:36:16
Unknown
I got a call twice with in 2 hours threating me and that he's from Marshalls and Fieldman in Ca 661-524-5718..This person calls with a heavy Indian accent from a 212-199 number which is not a US #..Looks like I'm getting a summons in the mail from him tomorrow,it's a Certified letter..I never get a cert.letter from anyone...I believe the address in Ca for the firm is 7621 Mission Center Ct. Suite 106 San Diego Ca 92101...What should I do about the summons if it arrives?????
Bart
Bart
2011-10-10 12:25:47
Unknown
Call pay day 1 and talk to their sercurity team and give them all the information like names and all the numbers...That way they can track them down but we are need to send this information to them that way this person(s) gets arrested
sha
sha
2011-10-08 03:03:26
Debt Collector
We receive this call said we were under serious trouble and crime law suite if we disregard. It we could go to jail and something about r social s my husband is so scared cause he has done nothing. Do I call this people back or what?
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