got call at 11:14 Pacific Time. I didn't recognize the phone# so didn't answer figuring it was another "Cardmember Services" phisher. these perps are calling with software that shows a different phone# from what they are actually calling from, and are engaged in an illegal activity (Fraud and/or ID Theft) so a little thing like the Do Not Call List is no deterrent.
I used to use the FCC online complaint form to report these perps, but there is not much the FCC can do about this type of call.
This was a call from card services digging for personal information. The number on caller id changes but it is still the same scam!! They call a couple times a week. I would like to know how this crap is allowed to go on. My number is on the do not call registry but it doesn't seem to matter to these a***oles........
I got a call from this number today. When I called it back got a message from Verizon that the number was no longer in service. These people are scum of the earth!
For the down vote.. seconds after I posted..
Did you even read the post? If your going to down vote it.. at least give your opinion as to why you feel that this isn't a valid solution.
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Offender: Telemarketing Agency Based In Florida
11/25/2013 - After receiving calls for about a year I finally was able to get an agent to give me a call back number (a rare event). This number (800-892-9533) was/is tied to Financial Savings Solutions, a company that is owned by Kimberly Coarse.
After considerable digging I was able to find a number of additional companies associated with Kimberly with several of them being marketing/financial orientated. Every time I was called from a new spoofed number I made a new post with that number. The idea being that the collective whole could gather more data on this possible offender.
Did it work? Yes it did, more and more publicly available data was consolidated and it was re-posted again and again. Turns out Kimberly was already under investigation and on 11/26/2013 Kimberly was charged in Orange County Florida with:
PUBLIC ORDER CRIMES-SOLICIT SALE WITHOUT LIC
EMPLOYING OR AFFILIATING WITH UNLICENSED TELEPHONE SOLICITAT
(source www.seminoleclerk.org Case 592013CF003402C)
The case is still pending .....
To validate that this was the right person the arrest mugshot was matched up to her Facebook photos. This was indeed the correct Kimberly Coarse. With so much consolidated information, both personal and her business, being posted online people began to contact her. She started to search online to discover the posts about her business.
In response I was able to have a dialog conversion with her about the calls and her business.
(Source, although much of her personal/business information has been removed, likely by her request)
To sum up the conversation, Kimberly basically works in the industry that is callings us. While her company doesn't call anyone, her company does benefit from the calls (read the link above for her response). She believes that there is a marketing company that isn't playing by the rules. Because she works in the industry she has more insight to how the system is setup.
"There is one main communications company that 90% of the advertisers doing this kind of dialing use" .... So she believe she knows the company that's in control of the technology that allows the "advertisers" use to make the calls. There is historic information online about other such companies who provided telecom services to marketers that abused the system. They were shutdown and fined. So there is good incentive for the company that is doing this to find users that are abusing it.
We can vent anger online and submit letters to the FCC and other government agencies. I've done it and you know what? It has absolutely no effect. Here we have someone who employees the services of the people we hate. While she doesn't have direct control she could have an impact on the harassing calls. Won't take down the crappy business model that is setup and likely someone else is going to come around and abuse the system again. However, I see few options.
Kimberly has offered to provide the company she is using with a list of numbers that are being called. Now obviously she's not doing this out of the kindness of her heart, she's being harassed by the people who are being harassed. So she has a vested interest in getting this to stop. Given the amount of personal/public data about her online it's easy to understand this.
We can continue to complain and moan online about how we hate being called, or we provide the information Kimberly needs to stop the calls (or at least attempt to). Now as some people have complained in prior posts, these companies are after your personal information. That providing them anything more is giving them more of that personal data so you can be scammed.
Well to that I say, yes it is a risk but it's pretty low. They already have your phone number that much we all can agree on. This is what Kimberly needs...
Time Called: (please provide your time zone, and exact time)
Their Number: What was displayed can your caller ID
Your going to have to send this to her via email... There has been concern that your email address will then be harvested and used. If this is a concern for you, then just setup a new email account (gmail/hotmail/yahoo) and send her the info. You can send this to her at kimberlyc1984 at icloud.com.
The company that is providing the phone services will be able to search their databases for outbound calls to your phone at that time. This will trace directly back to the offending marketing company that isn't following the Do Not Call List and is harassing you.
Is this going to work 100%, probably not. I have no idea how serious Kimberly is about helping us, I hope her offer was genuine. There is no certainty that the company providing the phone service will do anything about it. However, this approach seems like it would yield better results than writing complaints online.
If you are on this site you have likely been called by a telemarketing agency who is not following the rules. You may have received a call in which there was no answer, talk to an agent who hung up on you when you asked who they were, or are on the do not call list.
This kind of activity is not acceptable in the industry. We are trying to determine who is abusing various services and need your assistance to determine who it is. An individual in the industry is willing to help out but needs some assistance from you. If you wish to help please contact Kimberly Coarse at kimberlyc1984 at icloud.com
Provide the following information to help us:
Time Called: (please provide your time zone, and exact time)
Their Number: What was displayed can your caller ID
What will be done with your information: It will be gathered with other individuals and submitted to the agency to provides these kinds of services. They will be able to search their systems to see who made calls out to you. Once enough data is collect this should help them determine who it is abusing the system and put a stop to it.
History: After considerable effort to determine who was responsible for the calls a trail lead to a company headed by Kimberly Coarse. While the her organization does not directly call individuals the company does use services from organizations that do. The people who make the calls take your information then route you to a company that will service you, that's how they get paid. So while a company that services your call did not make the call, they directly benefit from such tactics as robo calling.
If you wish to know more about how the system operates you can read the following link/thread that covers it in detail.
Kimberly goes into considerable detail on how the industry is setup. You can make your own judgement on the business practices of such organizations yourself.
Received call from this number on my cell. today, an automated call from "Rachel" wanting to lower by credit card interest
rates. I also received same caller and message on our land line phone several days ago. Beware of scam.
I rarely get phishing calls from the same number twice so I don't save any of them. I just don't pick up calls from unfamiliar area codes and Google them later. Never call them back, because then they confirm your number and add you to other lists... That's possibly part of the reason why some of you have so many saved and I get probably less than six a year...
Is there anything constructive that can be done?
Credit card scammers! They have called me 3 times in a week. Someone needs to squeeze the meat out of their heads. they asked me how much cc debt I have? I said you tell me? You called me you dumb SOB! SOMEONE NEEDS TO TIE THEM UP TOO THEIR PHONE AND SQUIRT BATTERY ACID ON THEIR BALLS!
I am sick and tired of these Sons a bi****s calling me to lower my credit card rates! Hell I don't even have a credit card the dumb Sons a bi****s anyhow. Someone needs to pop a cap in there a**!
These scammers have been calling me for 2 years now. Lately I answer the calls and press 1 to talk to a rep. Then I give them some false info, eg a made up sum of credit card debt, a random credit card type (Visa, Mastercard, Discover, whatever) etc... Then after a few minutes I just say "oh can you hang on just a sec? someones at my door." then I put the phone down and continue my day. Theyll usually stay on the phone for a few more minutes because they think they've got me in the bag but then they grow impatient and start saying "hello? sir are you still there?" at that point I answer and say "Oh hey I forgot you were here! Did I waste enough of your time today you pathetic, low life, piece of dirt?". At that point they realize Im just messing with them and not going to fall for the scam. They either hang up or start talking s*** to me. This call was a fun one! The guy immediately called me a bunch of obscene names and asked me where my wife was so he can f*** her. I told him "I dont have a wife, I have a boyfriend and its you! Youre my bi***. Come over so I can f*** you in the a**". He actually laughed. Then I laugh and say "thanks for playing the game with me. I wasted 10 minutes of your time today, that's hopefully one less person that will fall for your scam this afternoon" and I hang up.
I invite everyone to partake in this game with me. Keep wasting their time! Or just dont answer, that's the easy way out. But just a heads up if this is all new to you, they will *never stop calling*. Ive been getting these calls for years. If you really want to get rid of this then you have to change your phone number. That's all you can do as far as I know. The FCC and the do not call lists are useless in this case because they are scammers and dont play by the rules. They are criminals.
received call 11:05am. dead air when answered.,
get rid of 7017719654
very annoying to receive "credit card" warnings. Have spoken with a "live" person & ask to have my number removed & the person hangs up. to dial back it is a message that the number is no longer in service or has been disconnected
This number bothers me calling.
I have three different call blockers on my phone now.. I hear a single sound means a number calling in has been blocked. They called the same day last month. Which was when I blocked them the first time. I have a Note and there are some really good free blockers but I am at that point I pay for one now. If you are private, or unknown you are blocked. I have added 54 numbers to be blocked over the pass 6 months.
I received a call from this number on my cell phone. When I answered, nobody was on the line. I tried calling the number back, and got a message that this number was no longer in service. All I can guess is that this number was spoofed.
TN Matilda Jane
Another "No Name" call to my cell 1:27 p.m. 2-5-14. Phone was on vibrate so didn't hear it., but would not have answered had I heard it. My policy: "If I don't recognize the #, home or cell, I don't answer." The caller hangs up before answering machine goes on. I assume these calls are telemarketers. If the call is legitimate, they will leave a message.
Heard on local TV station this morning that it is airing a segment about the latest "one-ring" scam -- rings once, caller hangs up. If you call # back, your # is automatically charged around $19.95 up front, and possibly $9 every additional minute.
Useless company attempts to scam the unwary cell phone version of phishing. Hijack your account and charge monthly premium fees if you call back.
KEEP RECEIVING PHONE CALLS FROM 7017719654 - WHEN I TRY AND CALL IT BACK IT SAYS IT IS A VERIZON NUMBER THAT IS NO LONGER IN SERVICE
Hello we would like to lower your c.c. Apr..
I am DNCL so what the hell
i got a live person and then i told them i was masturbating, i said some pretty raunchy stuff and they never called back.
Called again and did not leave a message again!
I also do the same thing, and I have hundreds of contacts, which I refer to as "scum". That way, I don't have to keep track of the number of scumbags who call my cell phone. One name covers all of them.
I got this call this morning. I was actually out helping a neighbor get their car out of the snow so I didn't actually get the call, but I have found something that stops the call quickly. Press one for the operator and when one comes on the line blow a really loud whistle into the phone. No, it isn't very nice, but since I am on the do not call list and I don't own any credit cards it isn't any ruder than them calling me. I only get one call from them. They don't call back for at least a couple of months.
I used to add these numbers to my contacts and name them ignore, ignore1 etc. but I have found a better way. Program your default ringer to "no ring" and not to vibrate and select each of your contacts and give them a ring tone. When an unknown number calls me it does not ring, I get the missed call notification only. Some people must know who is calling them and will not ignore calls but my sentiment is that if it is someone I know they will leave a message and I can call them right back.
Area code is in N Dakota. Don't know anyone there and my cell phone number was not given to anyone but family. Didn't answer but now they're on my Reject Call list.