720-409-2532
CO, US
WRS
WRS
2013-03-14 17:56:22
Unknown
Got 3 calls in  the middle of night and 2 during day. My phone is an on call phone for a  Doctor and I don't need to get thes unsolicitied calls!
DF
DF
2013-03-14 17:24:34
Telemarketer
I think I finally found a way for us to get these creeps. I have found a website that will give us the CARRIER that is associated with these callers. If we contact the carriers en-masse, AND we tell them we are aware of the illegal activity AND that we will share their information with others, then perhaps they will start shutting these people down. Here is the website: http://www.searchbug.com/tools/reverse-phone-lookup.aspx Type in the number and the carrier information is shown. Go to the carriers website and do a CONTACT US and send them an email. Here is what I used as a template:


Hello,

I have been receiving hundreds of telemarketing calls to my cell phone and found out that the number that called me yesterday, XXX-XXX-XXXX is supported by your company. There are thousands of people that are contacted daily by 'robo-calls' and this number is one of them. I am not sure what you can do to help us prevent these calls, but I'd like very much for you to investigate the legality of this company who is clearly breaking the law, as I have put my cell number on the FTC DO Not Call List many times. Thank you for your support and I hope you can help set a trend that for carriers that will eliminate these companies from practicing this illegal activity.

I found your information by using the following website: http://www.searchbug.com/tools/reverse-phone-lookup.aspx

(then add your comments or suggestions, but keep it nice, they hopefully will help us!)
KarnDog
KarnDog
2013-02-13 22:47:24
Telemarketer
I have been receiving calls from these 'card services' telemarketers for over a year now. I have been blocking each number they have called with (over 35 at this point). And I have been filing complaints with the FTC Do Not Call Registry and the FCC complaint site, to no avail. I do suggest you all do the same, and do not talk to them or call them back.

But to really get some attention, I created a petition on the White House We The People site. Please go there and sign it, we have to get the word out any way we can:

http://wh.gov/pJ8s
Anonymouse
Anonymouse
2012-08-14 12:40:53
Telemarketer
Arkansas sues robocallers:
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2012/aug/0 ... arketing-firms/
Missouri sues robocallers:
http://www.legalnewsline.com/news/236974-kost ... nies-over-calls
Proof that current laws mean nothing to these scum suckers, same companies that have been sued in the past:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/12/roycox.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/06/asiapacific.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/03/asiapacific.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0923193/111219roycoxcmpt.pdf
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/donotcall/mediacenter.html

Write our Congress and Senate. We need CRIMINAL penalties against the companies that are profiting from these calls. Follow the money, slap them in jail, no one left to outsource to overseas boiler rooms, problem solved.
Since they are operating across borders it should become a federal felony and should be handled by the FBI under the RICO Act.
Anonymouse
Anonymouse
2012-08-14 12:40:22
Telemarketer
How it works:
http://onthespotblog.com/on-the-spot-blog-stirs-up-rachel-at-cardholder-services/ ...
http://onthespotblog.com/tag/cardholder-services/

We need CRIMINAL penalties against the companies that are profiting from these calls. Follow the money, slap them in jail, no one left to outsource to overseas boiler rooms, problem solved.
Since they are operating across borders it should become a federal felony and should be handled by the FBI under the RICO Act.

These calls are coming from call centers in Costa Rica and India and they are using spoofed (false)
numbers, which in itself is illegal. They do cold calling for or sell the leads to numerous companies in
this country and they know that what they are doing is illegal. Tomorrow this same number may be selling Cruises, Timeshares or Security Systems but if you follow the money it usually ends up in the hands of an American LLC. Keep complaining to the FTC and FCC, and start bugging our politicians to pass laws to make it punishable in criminal court instead of handing out fines that they don't pay. Another course of action is to contact phone companies to find out why they won't block spoofed numbers. With today's technology that should be an easy thing to do, unless they are somehow profiting from the use of their systems.

Robocalls are illegal unless you have given them prior permission in writing (not worded into some small
print contract from a 3rd party) and are absolutely illegal to a cell phone.  The Telephone Consumer
Protection Act permits individuals who have received certain unlawful telemarketing, such as junk faxes
or telemarketing calls, to sue the violator in state courts where they may be awarded up to $1500 for
each violation.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/robocalls/  
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/07/robocall.shtm
http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/policy/TCPA-Rules.pdf
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/donotcall/mediacenter.html

People should continually file complaints with their Attorney Generals office and also file with:
http://www.fcc.gov/complaints
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov
If enough people keep complaining then maybe something will get done.

The FTC has already taken action against some of them however they just pay a small fine and are back at the same scam the next day:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/02/afl_financial.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/02/voiceblaze.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/12/roycox.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/03/voicetouch.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/05/robocalls.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/12/robocall.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/09/twi.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/02/robocall.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/05/robocalls2.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/12/jpm.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/06/asiapacific.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/donotcall/mediacenter.html
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/03/asiapacific.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/08/voicetouch.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/11/sonkei.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/05/ams.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/01/khalilian.shtm

I will say it again, we need CRIMINAL penalties against the companies that are profiting from these
calls. Follow the money, slap them in jail, no one left to outsource to overseas boiler rooms, problem
solved. Since they are operating across borders it should become a federal felony and should be handled by the FBI under the RICO Act.
Lori Buttram
Lori Buttram
2012-07-19 17:52:54
Telemarketer
Credit card solicitors
bigfootwallace
bigfootwallace
2012-06-26 07:13:23
Unknown
Constant daily calls from this number. sometimes 3 times a day.
Mary Wright
Mary Wright
2012-06-25 20:10:25
Unknown
Repeat calls all the time
wildbill
wildbill
2012-06-14 16:04:21
Unknown
It's time for this garbage to stop.  I have received 34 unsolicited phone calls since the 23rd of APR.  I also have a portable base that I have not given the number to and I have had 9 unsolicited calls on it.  What does it take to stop this gabage?
Kay
Kay
2012-06-13 20:06:02
Unknown
this is my new phone number.. I have had it since May 2012. I'll prolly change my number now that I have read this crap... playing porno music is right on tho...lol
William Dong
William Dong
2012-06-07 06:11:40
Unknown
Called but failed to reach me.
mwcolle
mwcolle
2012-06-07 00:04:55
Unknown
these people call my cell 3 to 5 times a day. when i press 1 to speak to a person to tell them i am on the national do not call list, they get mad and hang up on me.
Mark
Mark
2012-06-01 21:24:40
Unknown
Bailey, you idiot. Read the posts above. DO you REALLY think because of your one call someone is going to get fined $10,000?  This is a scam that has been going on for over ten years and will continue to go on for many more years since FTC does not have the balls to do anything to them.
BAILEY
BAILEY
2012-06-01 17:29:01
Unknown
REC'D A CALL FROM 720-409-2532 ON 5/31/12 @ 12:46PM-DID NOT ANSWER-THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO AND I AM GOING TO CALL THE 888-382-1222-DO NOT CALL LIST PEOPLE AND TRY TO HAVE THEM FINE THEM THE $10,000.00 FINE FOR THIS SCAM TO GET OUR CC (IF WE HAD ONE) .
THANKS
Mark Zuckerpucker
Mark Zuckerpucker
2012-06-01 14:30:45
Telemarketer
If you want information on this scam and the people behind it I recommend checking out this website:
 http://onthespotblog.com/the-hunt-for-rachel-at-cardholder-services/

The players we know that are now involved, including names and cities are:
Ambrosia Web Design LLC, Chris Ambrosia, Mesa, Arizona
American Debt Negotiators, Ran David Barnea, Boca Raton, Florida
Associated Accounting Specialists Inc., William R. Page, Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Castle Rock Capital Management, Roy M. Cox, Laguna Niguel, California
Concord Financial Advisors LLC, Lee Cestine, Mesa, Arizona
Financial Services Solutions LLC, CEO Unknown, New York, New York
PHL International, Mark Burton, Deerfield Beach, Florida
Premiere Debt Solutions, CEO Unknown, Orlando, Florida
Red Leaf Capital LLC, Leroy Castine, Mesa, Arizona
Billy Goates
Billy Goates
2012-05-31 19:58:45
Telemarketer
If you want information on this scam and the people behind it I recommend checking out this website:
 http://onthespotblog.com/the-hunt-for-rachel-at-cardholder-services/

The players we know that are now involved, including names and cities are:
Ambrosia Web Design LLC, Chris Ambrosia, Mesa, Arizona
American Debt Negotiators, Ran David Barnea, Boca Raton, Florida
Associated Accounting Specialists Inc., William R. Page, Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Castle Rock Capital Management, Roy M. Cox, Laguna Niguel, California
Concord Financial Advisors LLC, Lee Cestine, Mesa, Arizona
Financial Services Solutions LLC, CEO Unknown, New York, New York
PHL International, Mark Burton, Deerfield Beach, Florida
Premiere Debt Solutions, CEO Unknown, Orlando, Florida
Red Leaf Capital LLC, Leroy Castine, Mesa, Arizona

I have received more than 150 (I have them documented) calls from these criminals. I have filed more that 50 complaints with the FTC however due to the fact that they hide behind spoofed numbers I doubt that they will ever stop any of them. They ask for up front fees and charge your credit card without performing any services.

I find that I am getting great enjoyment by pressing 1 and talking to one of their "reps". I have a phony name, credit card number, and security code that I use. The only legitimate number that I give them is the customer service number from a credit card that I no longer use since the card raised my rates.
I try to ask the criminals as many questions as possibe to keep them on the phone as long as I can. The scammers seem to get upset once they finally figure out that THEY are getting scammed. I guess they think their time is more valuable than mine.

The guys behind this scam have a slew of corporations, many of them defunct. I searched using the name ?American Debt Negotiators? and found the name of the Registered Representative was a guy named RAN BARNEA, aca RAN DAVID BARNEA, aca DAVID R BARNEA. He is also listed as the president of a whole slew of other active corporations. Another guy is DANIEL T. POST. This stuff is all public record. Here is a list of the active Florida corporations and the corporate officers that I simply copied and pasted here.

BETUOCH MANAGEMENT VENTURE CORPORATION
Corporate Officers:
BARNEA, RAN
23123 STATE RD 7 #215
BOCA RATON FL 33428 BR

POST, DANIEL T
23123 STATE RD 7 #215
BOCA RATON FL 33428 BR

BMV DEBT MANAGEMENT CORP
Corporate Officers:
BARNEA, RAN
23123 STATE RD 7
BOCA RATON FL 33428

POST, DANIEL
23123 STATE RD 7
BOCA RATON FL 33428

METUKON CORP
Corporate Officers:
BARNEA, RAN
11555 HERON BAY BLVD # 200
CORAL SPRINGS FL 33076 US

POST, DANIEL
11555 HERON BAY BLVD # 200
CORAL SPRINGS FL 33076 US

PHL INTERNATIONAL, INC
Corporate Officers:
BURTON, MARK
836 SOUTH MILITARY TRAIL
DEERFIELD FL 33442 PB

POST, SHARI
836 SOUTH MILITARY TRAIL
DEERFIELD FL 33442 PB

BARNEA, RAN
836 SOUTH MILITARY TRAIL
DEERFIELD FL 33442 PB

BMV DEBT MANAGEMENT CORP
Corporate Officers:
BARNEA, RAN
23123 STATE RD 7
BOCA RATON FL 33428

POST, DANIEL
23123 STATE RD 7
BOCA RATON FL 33428

AMERICAN CONSUMER ADVOCATES LAW GROUP, LLC
Corporate Officers:
BARNEA, RAN D
23123 US 441 SUITE 225
BOCA RATON FL 33428

AMERICAN DEBT NEGOTIATORS, INC
Corporate Officers:
BARNEA, RAN D
23123 STATE RD 7 #250
BOCA RATON FL 33428 US

POST, DANIEL T
23123 STATE RD 7 #250
BOCA RATON FL 33428 US

POST, RICHARD
23123 STATE RD 7 #250
BOCA RATON FL 33428 US

Then I found a website for American Debt Negotiators with contact information that has the same address as METUKON CORP. listed above. So, I decided I should copy and paste the information. Here it is:

American Debt Negotiators
11555 Heron Bay Blvd. Suite 200
Coral Springs, FL 33076
Phone:(866) WOW-4 ADN
or 866-969-4236
Fax: 561-483-2733
Mark
Mark
2012-05-31 19:31:11
Telemarketer
Well first a LOT of people DO NOT read any of the posts here. They just post their own message asking "How do I get them to stop?". If you would first read this string you would understand that they DO NOT CARE if you do not want these calls. You are going to continue to recieve them and you cannot do anything about it. They know they are breaking the law. Do you think posting to a web site saying STOP will make them stop calling you? Come on People use your head. They are interested in only ONE thing and that is finding a sucker to give out his or her credit card number to them. Look at the FTC web site for news updates. The FTC shut down one of these companies AFTER the company took in OVER 13 Million dollars from suckers they called. The FTC shut the company down, took the money the company had in the bank which was only $159,000 and that is all. The owners still have over 13 million dollars to re-open down the road and start calling the next batch of suckers to give them another 13 million in dollars. As long as these companies can continue to find stupid people to give them their credit card numbers so they can be scammed these companies will continue to call, fishing for suckers. And as long the FTC cannot issue jail time to the owners of these companies and only take back a few pennies for every dollar they scammed these companies will continue to call suckers and scam them.
nurse1118
nurse1118
2012-05-31 03:03:26
Unknown
I will no longer answer this call when I see the
number come up on my ID.  Hopefully they will stop calling.
Betty
Betty
2012-05-30 19:38:21
Unknown
Call "Do not call registery" @  888-382-1222, or go on-line and file a complaint.  They will be charged $10,000.  That would stop them.
Donovan
Donovan
2012-05-30 19:26:12
Unknown
I like this........I like this a lot........
gray
gray
2012-05-30 16:19:01
Unknown
same here, calls then hangs up
tom wolf
tom wolf
2012-05-29 19:31:54
Unknown
getting several call from this number 720-409-2532 and at first the caller stated that credit card services needed to have verification of who i am and needed my card number, DOB, and the three number code on the back of the card.  Has about 25 to 45 calls like this and also know are using a number in Iowa.

in the last several week the caller (from the same number) is a detective from the Colorado State Police investigating a crime and need to have card numbers, DOB, email address, etc.  If you should get a call like this forward the number and info the the Colorado SP and state DA office.  So that they can put this group  on ice!!!!
Katie
Katie
2012-05-29 18:47:35
Telemarketer
Just gota  call from these p***s wrinkles. Pressed 1 to play some nasty tricks on them but after 5 minutes I was still listening to their elevator music.  No fun for me today I suppose....
TL Ute
TL Ute
2012-05-29 17:33:18
Unknown
Give them the phone number of your legislator, or congressman, maybe if they get hounded enough, they'll do something about it!
tenderheart
tenderheart
2012-05-26 18:08:29
Unknown
all you need to do is tell them that your credit isnt good enough  for a card and  say if i cant pay cash then i dont need  it
cperg
cperg
2012-05-25 20:32:24
Unknown
no one in phone sales uses their real name - i did some simple corporate surveys back in the early 70's and we were instructed to use a Pseudo-name. I am sure it is still the same today and 'prolly' worldwide.
Mike R
Mike R
2012-05-25 17:42:35
Telemarketer
I just received a very rude phonecall from this # 720-409-2532. In the past I had been very nice to ask not to be called anymore. Today was the last straw!!! what do you do to stop them???
JC
JC
2012-05-25 03:51:03
Telemarketer
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dan thomas
dan thomas
2012-05-24 20:08:34
Unknown
I just got a call from them to my cell phone. I don't owe any $$ to credit cards, yet they are trying to get me to give them credit info.
Mark Zuckerpucker
Mark Zuckerpucker
2012-05-24 19:43:11
Unknown
Wonderful! I just wish more people would take your advice. I have received more than 150 calls from these criminals and have filed more that 50 complaints with the FTC, however due to the fact that they hide behind spoofed numbers I doubt that they will ever stop any of them.
1-920-320-1960 1-360-975-0363 1-800-313-5023
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