801-312-1100
UT, US
 | WTF? 2014-03-14 22:48:42 Unknown |
LOL only thing he's qualfied for
| KNOW THEM 2013-10-09 00:23:59 Unknown |
I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT THE SCAMS ARE TRUE. I PERSONALLY KNOW ALL OF THESE GUYS AND THEY ARE SCUM. THEY DO SPEND EVERY DOLLAR ON WEED AND ALCOHOL. THEY ALL HAVE NUMERIOUS DUI'S. SOME SELL DRUGS. THEY EVEN DRINK AT WORK, SEEN PICTURES POSTED. AND YES THEY WERE KICKED OUT OF THEIR OLD BUILDING DUE TO SMOKING WEED. THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION...SOME MAYBE NOT EVEN THAT. SO GOOD LUCK. ENJOY HAVING THEM RIP YOU OFF WITH THEIR BS AND A SCRIPT AND THINGS THEY GOOGLE. IT JUST FRUSTRATES ME AND ISNT RIGHT OF THEM.
| xxx. 2013-05-25 02:19:22 Unknown |
you are full of crap I worked for him I know he is a SCAMER PIG PRICK all of you guys saying other wiser aree full of SHI!! stick it
| Not in Utah ha ha 2013-05-09 08:11:53 Unknown |
Get real, they are scammers and you are full of it! Th pulled the same garbage in Utah
| Ripped Off By Black Box Firm 2012-09-17 23:35:20 Telemarketer |
On another post, I saw a woman who paid 4250 for a website. I checked out the site... and it REALLY looks like she overpaid by about 4000.00- and that is being nice!
So other than a hundred dollar website, what did she get for 4250? Worthless advice you can get for free on the Internet- check. Overpriced services that arrive late if at all- check. A coach who disappears when you need them- check. A contact phone number that does not work at all- check. (It is worth noting that the phone number this compliant was started with- 801-312-1100- has changed three times in the last six months. It is now 877-908-0178. Who ya hiding from Aaron? or did you just not pay your phone bill, like all your other bills?) Sounds like business as usual at Black Box Firm in Murray Utah.
It is NEVER advisable to work with Aaron Christner or Ryan Jensen- there is no real reason to, honestly. But if you do, you really need to watch Aaron Christner close if you work with him. It is common for him to purchase services in YOUR name and then never pay for them. You get stuck with the bill... like hosting or domain names. Look at how he runs his business (he calls himself a visionary on one of his BS sites.I envision him swirling around in the bowl when I flush!) He never pays his bills, which is why he moves his companies all over and changes names and phone numbers all the time.
So what is the REAL Aaron Christner like? Stoned. Always stoned. Vindictive. And stupid. Look at the two posts above- those are both by Aaron. If you owned a business, and had a dispute with a customer, would you EVER respond like Aaron did above? Would you EVER call out your customers or your employees like that in public? I am just astounded- flabbergast- that he would write that...
Second, look at that site- just look! How can Aaron- with a straight face- defend that site as a 4000 dollar site? He almost sounds proud of it- just before he basically bi***-slaps his customers and employees.
Finally- and this is a hallmark of a classic Aaron Chrsitner post- is the misspelling. Whether his stupidity is cause by brain rot from smoking so much pot, or from never finishing 10th grade, we will never know. But lets just say Aaron is not very smart. Better and closer to the truth, lets just say Aaron is pretty damn stupid. And Aaron is the better half of the Aaron Christner/Ryan Scott Jensen love-couple. Ryan's favorite word is "Duh" but he can't spell that, either.
Another example of Aaron Christner's IMMENSE stupidity is how he tries to defend himself against all the people complaining about him in public, on forums like this. How does Aaron defend his larceny and his ripping people off? BY SPAMMING!!!! he is filling forums that complain about him and his scams by filling them with long articles that say nothing. Just random words.
These poorly written, sloppy and irrelevant article is the basis of one of Aaron Christner's newest scams- Keeping-it-fresh.com. You see, Aaron will try and get you to buy software from him (software, btw, he has NOT paid the authors for!!!). He will tell you that this software will suck articles in from other sites and "spin" them onto your site- viola- instant content for your site!
Want to see more examples of how horrible the keeping-it-fresh software is? You need look no further than Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen themselves!
In an effort to muddy the internet waters about what a scammer Aaron and Ryan are... in an effort to keep anyone from seeing the Black Box Firm Scam sites, Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen have started a couple sites of their own. In their own names!!!! And the key words for these sites? Look at the categories they use- topics like:
aaron christner scam
accomplish learning group
black box firm
Black Box Firm Scam
black box firm utah
Why would these be HIS topics on his personal web site? To muddy the waters. To try and divert attention away from sites that really do talk about the Black Box Firm Scams!
So google Aaron Chistner and Ryan Jensen and see their sites at: http://www.aaronchristner.com/ and www.ryansjensen.com/. Now read the posts. Make any sense? None, huh! So keeping-it-fresh is just another scam, just another time Aaron Chistner and Ryan Jensen try and sell something that does not work for way too much money.
See the problem? First, read the stuff his spinner makes. Makers no sense, does it. So yea, you can fill up your site. But with garbage. Second, does Aaron Christner really think he is smarter than Google? Does he really think his pea-brain has found a way to scam Google? (It just hit me- he is so arraogant he probably thinks he can!)
So Aaron, you are obviously watching these forums... so reply. First, can you be man enough to use your real name?
Second, tell us about all the people you have never paid. The employees. The suppliers. The coaches. The telemarketers. The customers like Scherie that you bold-face stole money from and them laugh in her face when she complains about it. It is no wonder scam and scum are such similar works, both apply to Aaron Christner and Ryan Scott Jensen. (My skin just crawls thinking about them!)
Third- tell us- how do you sleep? How do you look at yourself in a mirror? Are you proud of yourself?
So other than a hundred dollar website, what did she get for 4250? Worthless advice you can get for free on the Internet- check. Overpriced services that arrive late if at all- check. A coach who disappears when you need them- check. A contact phone number that does not work at all- check. (It is worth noting that the phone number this compliant was started with- 801-312-1100- has changed three times in the last six months. It is now 877-908-0178. Who ya hiding from Aaron? or did you just not pay your phone bill, like all your other bills?) Sounds like business as usual at Black Box Firm in Murray Utah.
It is NEVER advisable to work with Aaron Christner or Ryan Jensen- there is no real reason to, honestly. But if you do, you really need to watch Aaron Christner close if you work with him. It is common for him to purchase services in YOUR name and then never pay for them. You get stuck with the bill... like hosting or domain names. Look at how he runs his business (he calls himself a visionary on one of his BS sites.I envision him swirling around in the bowl when I flush!) He never pays his bills, which is why he moves his companies all over and changes names and phone numbers all the time.
So what is the REAL Aaron Christner like? Stoned. Always stoned. Vindictive. And stupid. Look at the two posts above- those are both by Aaron. If you owned a business, and had a dispute with a customer, would you EVER respond like Aaron did above? Would you EVER call out your customers or your employees like that in public? I am just astounded- flabbergast- that he would write that...
Second, look at that site- just look! How can Aaron- with a straight face- defend that site as a 4000 dollar site? He almost sounds proud of it- just before he basically bi***-slaps his customers and employees.
Finally- and this is a hallmark of a classic Aaron Chrsitner post- is the misspelling. Whether his stupidity is cause by brain rot from smoking so much pot, or from never finishing 10th grade, we will never know. But lets just say Aaron is not very smart. Better and closer to the truth, lets just say Aaron is pretty damn stupid. And Aaron is the better half of the Aaron Christner/Ryan Scott Jensen love-couple. Ryan's favorite word is "Duh" but he can't spell that, either.
Another example of Aaron Christner's IMMENSE stupidity is how he tries to defend himself against all the people complaining about him in public, on forums like this. How does Aaron defend his larceny and his ripping people off? BY SPAMMING!!!! he is filling forums that complain about him and his scams by filling them with long articles that say nothing. Just random words.
These poorly written, sloppy and irrelevant article is the basis of one of Aaron Christner's newest scams- Keeping-it-fresh.com. You see, Aaron will try and get you to buy software from him (software, btw, he has NOT paid the authors for!!!). He will tell you that this software will suck articles in from other sites and "spin" them onto your site- viola- instant content for your site!
Want to see more examples of how horrible the keeping-it-fresh software is? You need look no further than Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen themselves!
In an effort to muddy the internet waters about what a scammer Aaron and Ryan are... in an effort to keep anyone from seeing the Black Box Firm Scam sites, Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen have started a couple sites of their own. In their own names!!!! And the key words for these sites? Look at the categories they use- topics like:
aaron christner scam
accomplish learning group
black box firm
Black Box Firm Scam
black box firm utah
Why would these be HIS topics on his personal web site? To muddy the waters. To try and divert attention away from sites that really do talk about the Black Box Firm Scams!
So google Aaron Chistner and Ryan Jensen and see their sites at: http://www.aaronchristner.com/ and www.ryansjensen.com/. Now read the posts. Make any sense? None, huh! So keeping-it-fresh is just another scam, just another time Aaron Chistner and Ryan Jensen try and sell something that does not work for way too much money.
See the problem? First, read the stuff his spinner makes. Makers no sense, does it. So yea, you can fill up your site. But with garbage. Second, does Aaron Christner really think he is smarter than Google? Does he really think his pea-brain has found a way to scam Google? (It just hit me- he is so arraogant he probably thinks he can!)
So Aaron, you are obviously watching these forums... so reply. First, can you be man enough to use your real name?
Second, tell us about all the people you have never paid. The employees. The suppliers. The coaches. The telemarketers. The customers like Scherie that you bold-face stole money from and them laugh in her face when she complains about it. It is no wonder scam and scum are such similar works, both apply to Aaron Christner and Ryan Scott Jensen. (My skin just crawls thinking about them!)
Third- tell us- how do you sleep? How do you look at yourself in a mirror? Are you proud of yourself?
| becca 2012-09-06 17:04:09 Telemarketer |
Is Aaron Christner also using the name Riley "Hutch" Hutchinson? I am pretty sure that is a scam... it may be the same guy. It has the same statler address as Accomplish Learning. It may also be using the name Bruce Kelly... they are all the same as the black box firm.
They have a site called, Abbey's Blog... and it is a money making scam site. This was @Abbeycoach on twitter, but the account was suspended... If it is associated with Christner and Jensen, you know you should not go near it! So Abbey Fredrickson is just another scam name made up by Aaron Christner!
They run an similar blog called Sophies Blog supposedly by Sophie Vaughn. Sophie Vaughn is a scam, too. Sophie is Aaron, not some single mom. All these names for one guy, what does he hide from????
Both these sites are NOT to scam you, at least not directly. Rather, they want to get your NAME and EMAIL. These sites sell you something cheap for very little money. But in a month or two, Aaron and Ryan use your email or phone to contact you from Accomplish Learning or Black Box Firm.... and that is when their scam really begins. This is just the honey pot...
They have a site called, Abbey's Blog... and it is a money making scam site. This was @Abbeycoach on twitter, but the account was suspended... If it is associated with Christner and Jensen, you know you should not go near it! So Abbey Fredrickson is just another scam name made up by Aaron Christner!
They run an similar blog called Sophies Blog supposedly by Sophie Vaughn. Sophie Vaughn is a scam, too. Sophie is Aaron, not some single mom. All these names for one guy, what does he hide from????
Both these sites are NOT to scam you, at least not directly. Rather, they want to get your NAME and EMAIL. These sites sell you something cheap for very little money. But in a month or two, Aaron and Ryan use your email or phone to contact you from Accomplish Learning or Black Box Firm.... and that is when their scam really begins. This is just the honey pot...
| Becca 2012-09-06 17:00:56 Telemarketer |
Is Aaron Christner also using the name Riley "Hutch" Hutchinson? I am pretty sure that is a scam... it may be the same guy. It has the same statler address as Accomplish Learning. It may also be using the name Bruce Kelly... they are all the same as the black box firm.
They have a site called, Abbey's Blog... and it is a money making scam site. This was @Abbeycoach on twitter, but the account was suspended... If it is associated with Christner and Jensen, you know you should not go near it! So Abbey Fredrickson is just another scam name made up by Aaron Christner!
They run an similar blog called Sophies Blog supposedly by Sophie Vaughn. Sophie Vaughn is a scam, too. Sophie is Aaron, not some single mom. All these names for one guy, what does he hide from????
Both these sites are NOT to scam you, at least not directly. Rather, they want to get your NAME and EMAIL. These sites sell you something cheap for very little money. But in a money or two, Aaron and Ryan use your email or phone to contact you from Accomplish Learning or Black Box Firm.... and that is when their scam really begins. This is just the honey pot...
They have a site called, Abbey's Blog... and it is a money making scam site. This was @Abbeycoach on twitter, but the account was suspended... If it is associated with Christner and Jensen, you know you should not go near it! So Abbey Fredrickson is just another scam name made up by Aaron Christner!
They run an similar blog called Sophies Blog supposedly by Sophie Vaughn. Sophie Vaughn is a scam, too. Sophie is Aaron, not some single mom. All these names for one guy, what does he hide from????
Both these sites are NOT to scam you, at least not directly. Rather, they want to get your NAME and EMAIL. These sites sell you something cheap for very little money. But in a money or two, Aaron and Ryan use your email or phone to contact you from Accomplish Learning or Black Box Firm.... and that is when their scam really begins. This is just the honey pot...
| Jenn 2012-09-05 01:00:16 Telemarketer |
I have found this, too, associated with Black Box Firm and Aaron Christner. They have a site called, Abbey's Blog... and it is a money making scam site. If it is associated with Christner and Jensen, you know you shouolod not go near it! So Abbey Fredrickson is just another scam name made up by Aaron Christner! Along the lines of trying to scam women (Aaron is not sexist, he will steal anyones money!), they ahve also set up another female oriented "blog" site... Sohpie's Blog. This is supposed to be by Sophie Vaughn. Just one look and you KNOW this site is a scam!
Also they are Express Internet Academy, and have set up a site there. That address is 138 East 12300 S Ste 183, Draper UT, 84020, which is just south of the Stratler Street address.
Also they are Express Internet Academy, and have set up a site there. That address is 138 East 12300 S Ste 183, Draper UT, 84020, which is just south of the Stratler Street address.
| aaron 2012-08-30 20:21:34 Telemarketer |
Hey everyone!
Check out my site! It's so cool!
http://www.aaronchristner.com/sample-page/
And this is what I think of myself -
"Aaron Christner is a bright and fun loving man! He works hard on his non profit work, along with taking care of friends and family? Which is never an easy task!
Aaron Christner always puts other first in line over himself. Aaron has ran successful business and has worked with many top leading entrepreneurs and continues to mix success with business. Aaron looks forward to your comments and active roll on this blog. As he encourages you to connect with other entrepreneur from this site."
Comment on my site if you agree with my fun-loving attitude and my non-profit personality or if you think that I put others first in line over myself.
Check out my site! It's so cool!
http://www.aaronchristner.com/sample-page/
And this is what I think of myself -
"Aaron Christner is a bright and fun loving man! He works hard on his non profit work, along with taking care of friends and family? Which is never an easy task!
Aaron Christner always puts other first in line over himself. Aaron has ran successful business and has worked with many top leading entrepreneurs and continues to mix success with business. Aaron looks forward to your comments and active roll on this blog. As he encourages you to connect with other entrepreneur from this site."
Comment on my site if you agree with my fun-loving attitude and my non-profit personality or if you think that I put others first in line over myself.
| craig slist 2012-08-30 20:04:29 Telemarketer |
http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/mar/3237372986.html
This smells like them. Stay away!
This smells like them. Stay away!
| tycre 2012-08-30 15:53:25 Debt Collector |
I AM SO TIRED OF LOOKING AROUND THE INTERNETS AND SEEING ALL THESE COMPLAINTS AGAINST US. THEY NEVER CALL US AND WE WOULD BE HELP THEMN. WE ARE HERE TO HEKLP, CALL AND ASK FOR ME. IT IS NOT TRUE I SCREAM AT PEOPLE ON THE PHONE- I WANT TO HELP. AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT A LAZY A** AND WANT TO WORK YOU WILL MAKE MONEY.
TOO MANY LAZY PEOPLE THINK THE MONEY JUST ROLLS IN, NO IT DOES NOT. YOU HAVE TO WORK AND YOU HAVE TO GET THE NEXT LEVEL OF COACHING. YOU WILL NEED THAT. AND OUR BL;OGGING SOFTWARE- YIOU NEED TO BUY THAT EPSECIALLY IF YOU ARE LAZY! AND THEN WE CAN SELL YOU A COACHING SYSTEM FOR THE BLOGGING SOFTWARE. DON'T WORRY IOF YOU CANT AFFORD IT WE WILL FINANCE IT FOR YOU!!! SEE WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU!
AS FOR THAT SITE AT http://blackboxfirmscam.wordpress.com/ THAT IS ALL A LIE. THAT IS ALL FROM AN EX-EMPLOYEE THAT HAS BEEN FOLLOWING US AROUIND FOR YEARS WHO IS A LIAR AND IN JAIL. OR MAYBE IT IS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE WHO WAS OUR POARTNER AND THEN HE WAS NO GOOD FOR US ANYMORE AND WE GOT RUID OF HIM. OR IT IS A WOMAN WHO WORKED FOR US. OR ANOTHER WOMAN THAT WORKED FOR US. WHOEVER IT IS WRITTEN BU IT IS ALL LIES AND FRAUD!!! I WAS ONLY CAUGHT WITH 1/8TH OF AN OUNCE OF POT... AND MY DUI BUST WAS YEARS AGO... SO IT IS ALL LIES, NONE OF IT TRUE. ALL THOSE COURT CASES THEY LIST AND SHOW THAT WE LOST, WELL, YES, WE LOST, BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE THE STATE OF UTAH IS OUT TO GET US. THEY ARE LIARS TOO.
SO THIS IS ALL FALSE AND LIES IF YOPU KNOW ME YOU KNOW I PAY WELL AND AM GOOD TO ALL MY EMPLOYEES EXCEPT THE LAZY ONES WHO SHOULD BE FIRED AND SO WE FIRED THEM.
I DO NOT DO DRUGS AND WILL TAKE A DRUG TEST EVERY DAY. PEOPLE WHO SAY I SMOKE POT EVERTY DAY ARE ALL LIERS AND I DEFY THEM TO PROVE IT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT!!!
I WISH THESE LIARS WOULD ALL LEVE US ALONE AND LET US RUN OUR BUSINESS. IT IS A GOOD BUSINESS AND IS RHERE TOHELP PEOPLE. THAT IS ALL WE WANT TO DO, HELP PEOPLE!!!
TOO MANY LAZY PEOPLE THINK THE MONEY JUST ROLLS IN, NO IT DOES NOT. YOU HAVE TO WORK AND YOU HAVE TO GET THE NEXT LEVEL OF COACHING. YOU WILL NEED THAT. AND OUR BL;OGGING SOFTWARE- YIOU NEED TO BUY THAT EPSECIALLY IF YOU ARE LAZY! AND THEN WE CAN SELL YOU A COACHING SYSTEM FOR THE BLOGGING SOFTWARE. DON'T WORRY IOF YOU CANT AFFORD IT WE WILL FINANCE IT FOR YOU!!! SEE WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU!
AS FOR THAT SITE AT http://blackboxfirmscam.wordpress.com/ THAT IS ALL A LIE. THAT IS ALL FROM AN EX-EMPLOYEE THAT HAS BEEN FOLLOWING US AROUIND FOR YEARS WHO IS A LIAR AND IN JAIL. OR MAYBE IT IS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE WHO WAS OUR POARTNER AND THEN HE WAS NO GOOD FOR US ANYMORE AND WE GOT RUID OF HIM. OR IT IS A WOMAN WHO WORKED FOR US. OR ANOTHER WOMAN THAT WORKED FOR US. WHOEVER IT IS WRITTEN BU IT IS ALL LIES AND FRAUD!!! I WAS ONLY CAUGHT WITH 1/8TH OF AN OUNCE OF POT... AND MY DUI BUST WAS YEARS AGO... SO IT IS ALL LIES, NONE OF IT TRUE. ALL THOSE COURT CASES THEY LIST AND SHOW THAT WE LOST, WELL, YES, WE LOST, BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE THE STATE OF UTAH IS OUT TO GET US. THEY ARE LIARS TOO.
SO THIS IS ALL FALSE AND LIES IF YOPU KNOW ME YOU KNOW I PAY WELL AND AM GOOD TO ALL MY EMPLOYEES EXCEPT THE LAZY ONES WHO SHOULD BE FIRED AND SO WE FIRED THEM.
I DO NOT DO DRUGS AND WILL TAKE A DRUG TEST EVERY DAY. PEOPLE WHO SAY I SMOKE POT EVERTY DAY ARE ALL LIERS AND I DEFY THEM TO PROVE IT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT!!!
I WISH THESE LIARS WOULD ALL LEVE US ALONE AND LET US RUN OUR BUSINESS. IT IS A GOOD BUSINESS AND IS RHERE TOHELP PEOPLE. THAT IS ALL WE WANT TO DO, HELP PEOPLE!!!
| aaron 2012-08-29 17:52:02 Telemarketer |
Oh I laugh at this when I read it.. When I?m bored any have nothing else to do (but not stoned, because I do not smoke pot like you acuse me), I Google and see what new and exciting stories there are about Aaron and Ryan.. you guys have done a outstanding job on making us two a urban legend. Now I understand if you were screwed or wronged you might have a bitter taste, but does that every go away?? ok so maybe i took advantge of you, but man get over it, life gores on. You are too lazy to get a real job or to really work or to do a good job or whatever, so now you spend you life all out to get me and ryan. you should thank us, we give yu all the help you need to make money and you spit at us and you are stupid and lazy.
I read these and laugh, because 85% of this is fairy tales and twisted to make you look like a saint.(actually you?re creepy ands lazy an stupit) also stalking these two?. I mean I know both of these two personally, are they good guys, that?s debatable for sure.. but do they rip people off no.. no clients.. just employees that do s****y work and want something for free..they do have a interesting way of managing.. which is, if your a lazy person and do s****y work, cause issues with clients.. they fire you and do not pay you, or they choke you out slowly, so you feel the pain( just as the client you screwed)?So.. yes they d have issues. enough issues, here you can speak about those, without making s*** up.. your lame and worthless? probably one of those employees that lost there job, didn?t get paid.. and now you are all like cry baby because you think we owe you the moneys or something. If you were not too lazy you would have been paid bt you screw everything up and do not do your job and the clients can't call you and stuff. So here is some.. here is my two cents? Go get a new job move on with your like and let karma deal with these two.(do not that Karma into your own hands, you look bad as them)? go get a new job move forwrd.. I?m cetin Kama will deal with these guys.. so go chill out? stop the hate mission.. your going to have to answer questions about harassment and stalking if you do not chill out.. and stop being a creep and a loose and be so lazy
I read these and laugh, because 85% of this is fairy tales and twisted to make you look like a saint.(actually you?re creepy ands lazy an stupit) also stalking these two?. I mean I know both of these two personally, are they good guys, that?s debatable for sure.. but do they rip people off no.. no clients.. just employees that do s****y work and want something for free..they do have a interesting way of managing.. which is, if your a lazy person and do s****y work, cause issues with clients.. they fire you and do not pay you, or they choke you out slowly, so you feel the pain( just as the client you screwed)?So.. yes they d have issues. enough issues, here you can speak about those, without making s*** up.. your lame and worthless? probably one of those employees that lost there job, didn?t get paid.. and now you are all like cry baby because you think we owe you the moneys or something. If you were not too lazy you would have been paid bt you screw everything up and do not do your job and the clients can't call you and stuff. So here is some.. here is my two cents? Go get a new job move on with your like and let karma deal with these two.(do not that Karma into your own hands, you look bad as them)? go get a new job move forwrd.. I?m cetin Kama will deal with these guys.. so go chill out? stop the hate mission.. your going to have to answer questions about harassment and stalking if you do not chill out.. and stop being a creep and a loose and be so lazy
| Rogers 2012-08-19 16:15:21 Telemarketer |
Hey Darius!
Don't like the name Aaron any more? Outgrown using the name Vince? Lie about your name, and you lie about who was really running Accomplish. As much as they deny it, you KNOW that Josh Reynolds, Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen are the crooks that ran Accomplish learning. Just working around you we knew something isn't right. And I mean in your business... not just you guys smoking out all day.
Did you know both Aaron and Ryan are listed BY NAME in the Utah Buyer Beware List? Check it out! http://consumerprotection.utah.gov/downloads/buyer-beware.pdf
Don't like the name Aaron any more? Outgrown using the name Vince? Lie about your name, and you lie about who was really running Accomplish. As much as they deny it, you KNOW that Josh Reynolds, Aaron Christner and Ryan Jensen are the crooks that ran Accomplish learning. Just working around you we knew something isn't right. And I mean in your business... not just you guys smoking out all day.
Did you know both Aaron and Ryan are listed BY NAME in the Utah Buyer Beware List? Check it out! http://consumerprotection.utah.gov/downloads/buyer-beware.pdf
| Darius 2012-08-04 16:05:35 Unknown |
Well, Paulo..completely wrong on your post there.... Aaron or Ryan never owned or operated Accomplish Learning Group (stupid business name to begin with).. Colin Hughes owned that business...Only one on the entity!! Now Aaron sold is equipment to Colin.. See Aaron /Ryan were fined Heavy in 2010.. they closed there doors. simply put!! Yes did they try and lend a hand to accomplish yes.. did accomplish fail yes!!! it was never opened correctly!!!..
Now for your site.. Paulo(which put your real name on this I did).. Its a 13 year old dui mugshot...(big deal) oh.. also the drug bust..(not to burst your bubble.. but it was only a 1/2 eighth of weed.. that the charges were dismissed)...So. make be the villain in life.. or a Urban legend, but get your facts correct. until next time....F$#$ off Loser......
Now for your site.. Paulo(which put your real name on this I did).. Its a 13 year old dui mugshot...(big deal) oh.. also the drug bust..(not to burst your bubble.. but it was only a 1/2 eighth of weed.. that the charges were dismissed)...So. make be the villain in life.. or a Urban legend, but get your facts correct. until next time....F$#$ off Loser......
| Paulo 2012-08-01 15:40:10 Telemarketer |
This month (well, last I guess) they were Accomplish Learning Group. State of Utah closed that company down in July it looks like. But it is still Aaron and Ryan up to their telemarketer tricks! Someone put up a website with mug shots of Ryan and Aaron, along with their rap sheets! Take a look here:
http://blackboxfirmscam.wordpress.com/
http://blackboxfirmscam.wordpress.com/
| conman caller 2012-05-26 21:34:08 Unknown |
These guys are losers won't pay their bill and cut me a bunk check. I have the police involved now due to so many bad comments. Life is a choice....do bad things and bad things will happen.
| CONCERNED 2012-03-16 17:39:08 Telemarketer |
Here are some updated numbers on Aaron Christner. He is going by the name Vince Scarpuzzi this week.
Current address:
6135 South Stratler, Suite A
Murray, UT 84123
888-282-7773
866-476-8473
Cel Phone: [removed]
Their current companies are:
Black Box Firm
Keeping-It-Fresh.com
Old Companies:
Diverse Marketing
Millennium Marketing Group
Cyber Innovations
Mad Cow Productions
Level11 Mentoring
Current address:
6135 South Stratler, Suite A
Murray, UT 84123
888-282-7773
866-476-8473
Cel Phone: [removed]
Their current companies are:
Black Box Firm
Keeping-It-Fresh.com
Old Companies:
Diverse Marketing
Millennium Marketing Group
Cyber Innovations
Mad Cow Productions
Level11 Mentoring
| pat 2012-02-10 01:37:30 Unknown |
it doesnt matter he still wont pay his employees him and ryan dont care they say well you didnt work for the black box firm you worked for accomplished learing group so its not our prob they screwed a sectary out of 1800 dollars cuz they said she worked for a different entity
| an upset employee 2012-02-10 00:54:45 Unknown |
There at it again. They owe me quite a bit of money from working for them. It was the same excuse. Their merchant wasn't working. However, before I quit it was workibg afaun. They saud I would get paid monday then it turned to Friday. Then Saturday. Then one of the owners said he mailed it Monday. I contacted him when I didn't get it Wednesday and he said I didn't personally mail it and I'm not responsible for you but he wouldn't tell me who to contact. How do they think its okay to not pay their employees? I have now filed with the state of utah and attorney general so they can explain it to them. DO NOT WORK FOR THEM!
| XXX. 2011-10-20 14:10:10 Telemarketer |
Why have you run away Mr. Aaron Christner you are no longer in murray Utah? Have you decided to run away from your obligations? The state of Utah is now looking for you to collect monies you owe to people! I believe you are aware of this and thats why no one can find you. Well I can say this proves the points made by the complaints on this site and others. Folks I would advise you to avoid Aaron Christner RYAN MORGAN, SPENCER BARTON, BRANDON FITZGERALD, TIM DOWNING, JOSH, ZACH. If they were honest and doing the right thing they would post their current location and the name of the business they are currently operating under. I do understand that the Company name changes every couple months but that is just one more way they choose to avoid honest actions.
| XXX. 2011-10-06 17:48:51 Unknown |
This is funny as sh## Aaron Christner and Ryan how does it feel it looks like karma is following you. That is if you believe in that kind of stuff or you could view it as though you have just scammed and screwed so many people that they are no longer willing to forgive and forget!! HAHA Keep posting guys lets shut their doors forever.
| taken by thieves 2011-10-04 21:57:59 Unknown |
These guys have proven themselves to be crooks. They don't answer phone calls and threaten you if you do manage to get through. Somehow they manage to sleep at night, but it certainly isn't because they are honest and moral. Stay far far away as a consumer and as an "employee". They choose who they pay and who they fulfill. Someone needs to get down there an shut them down before too many more people are hurt.
| Stop Whining 2011-10-01 06:33:43 Unknown |
Like anything else in this industry, they offer an "investment opportunity". And it's just that; an opportunity. Which does not guarantee success. Only potential success. However, it is more realistic and legitimate than the hyped up and over advertised programs people buy that get these people calling in the first place. They tell you straight up what it will cost you. They tell you straight up what you need to do. They tell you straight up that you need to be serious and dedicated. If you convince them that you are both serious and dedicated and then you fork out the money and sign your name on the dotted line, then you and you alone are to blame for anything resulting from that.
Disgruntled clients are either lazy or never gave the opportunity a serious shot in the first place.
Disgruntled employees of this industry who complain and slander it on forums like this only create the deficit that ended up in their lack of pay in the first place. Telling clients to "charge back their credit cards" only takes the money back from the company and thus from the employees. Then those employees become disgruntled and team up with disgruntled clients and only create the same issue over and over for future employees. Just as the issue was created for you by employees before you. On top of that, if you actually focus on high quality deals, for the better of the clients and the company (you know, the people who actually pay you) and not the high quantity deals, for only personal gain... you may actually find a lot more successful and happy clients. (Which in case you can't figure it out, means more money is actually in the company's hands to pay you when the end of the month rolls around)
All this is here is a very sad cycle of selfishness, laziness and ignorance. Those who have the intelligence to step away from the drama and here say and actually look: 1) At yourself, instead of at other people. Take accountability. 2) Now that you see yourself for the tragically ignorant, lazy and/or self serving people that you are, look at the big picture and how your shaky deals, made on false pretenses, that fall apart down the road because you didn't do your job properly actually comes back to kick you in the a**. And how its is people like you, doing exactly what you are doing now, that created the problem in the first place. Participating in these shenanigans is as good as openly admitting hypocrisy. Not too mention it is the good clients and the good salesmen out there who really suffer for your actions.
Seriously. You have no one to blame for yourselves. Anyone who truly knows how this industry is supposed to work should be able to see that. Lies and slander won't do anything but accentuate your own short comings. It's people like you who give this industry a bad name.
STWARDTL
Current Employee of the Industry
Disgruntled clients are either lazy or never gave the opportunity a serious shot in the first place.
Disgruntled employees of this industry who complain and slander it on forums like this only create the deficit that ended up in their lack of pay in the first place. Telling clients to "charge back their credit cards" only takes the money back from the company and thus from the employees. Then those employees become disgruntled and team up with disgruntled clients and only create the same issue over and over for future employees. Just as the issue was created for you by employees before you. On top of that, if you actually focus on high quality deals, for the better of the clients and the company (you know, the people who actually pay you) and not the high quantity deals, for only personal gain... you may actually find a lot more successful and happy clients. (Which in case you can't figure it out, means more money is actually in the company's hands to pay you when the end of the month rolls around)
All this is here is a very sad cycle of selfishness, laziness and ignorance. Those who have the intelligence to step away from the drama and here say and actually look: 1) At yourself, instead of at other people. Take accountability. 2) Now that you see yourself for the tragically ignorant, lazy and/or self serving people that you are, look at the big picture and how your shaky deals, made on false pretenses, that fall apart down the road because you didn't do your job properly actually comes back to kick you in the a**. And how its is people like you, doing exactly what you are doing now, that created the problem in the first place. Participating in these shenanigans is as good as openly admitting hypocrisy. Not too mention it is the good clients and the good salesmen out there who really suffer for your actions.
Seriously. You have no one to blame for yourselves. Anyone who truly knows how this industry is supposed to work should be able to see that. Lies and slander won't do anything but accentuate your own short comings. It's people like you who give this industry a bad name.
STWARDTL
Current Employee of the Industry
| X-Employee 2011-08-25 15:54:52 Unknown |
No, I don't. I had a 208 number, but it is no longer connected, so Aaron must have changed his phone number. Sorry
| js 4 dayz 2011-08-24 00:03:39 Unknown |
u have a phone number?
| X-Employee 2011-08-20 06:05:38 Unknown |
They are at 6135 S. Stratler STE A Murray, UT 84107, at least they were when I was hired.
| J's All Day 2011-08-19 00:27:54 Unknown |
where are they at?
| X-Employee 2011-08-18 19:05:02 Unknown |
I was hired to be an office assistant, I didn't last long. They are currently going as the black box firm, they are operating under the name Swag Media, I saw an ad on craigslist that I know was from them. They also use the website ecommerce web solutions.com. They are still trying to scam people, and get rich. They can't even afford a car. I had a post with Aaron Christner's phone number on it, but it has been removed.
| Ex-Employee 2011-08-10 19:08:13 Unknown |
***To Outsider -
Chris' story sounds exactly like mine. I was hired and worked for them for 6 months (IN 2011). The same thing is still going on. I was that "guy" in 2011 that went in and tried to clean up their coaching dept.
When BOTH of my paychecks bounced in April 2011, I had just about enough. I was laid off the first week in May 2011. I was really pissed off!! But I soon got over it and chalked it up to a learning experiences.
I visit these websites every once in a while to see if they are still up to the same old "6 Month cycle" that they go through. It is mostly just out of curiousity as well. I won't take legal action. I don't lie about my employment there. I don't have a reason to. I feel the need and responsibility to educate others about my situation so hopefully others don't end up in the same situation that I did.
I was put on "salary" at $33,000 per year with a lot of empty promises about being bumped up to $75k - $85k within a year. And with the amount of hours that I worked, I estimated that I was earning less than $15 per hour. I was doing a lot for that company with the goal of being able to eventually make it to $100k per year. I believed that I would be able to make a difference. I took some initiative to help the company but when I wasn't getting my paycheck. My morale and motivation went downhill very quickly!
I was never offered any benefits like health insurance.
In the 6 months that I worked their, 4 paychecks bounced and 2 paychecks were at least a week late.
My opinion is that this is a company to avoid at all costs. However, most likely, they have a new business name now. Last I heard, it was Millennium Marketing Group.
P.S. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say that this 'outsider (z)' is really an "insider".
Chris' story sounds exactly like mine. I was hired and worked for them for 6 months (IN 2011). The same thing is still going on. I was that "guy" in 2011 that went in and tried to clean up their coaching dept.
When BOTH of my paychecks bounced in April 2011, I had just about enough. I was laid off the first week in May 2011. I was really pissed off!! But I soon got over it and chalked it up to a learning experiences.
I visit these websites every once in a while to see if they are still up to the same old "6 Month cycle" that they go through. It is mostly just out of curiousity as well. I won't take legal action. I don't lie about my employment there. I don't have a reason to. I feel the need and responsibility to educate others about my situation so hopefully others don't end up in the same situation that I did.
I was put on "salary" at $33,000 per year with a lot of empty promises about being bumped up to $75k - $85k within a year. And with the amount of hours that I worked, I estimated that I was earning less than $15 per hour. I was doing a lot for that company with the goal of being able to eventually make it to $100k per year. I believed that I would be able to make a difference. I took some initiative to help the company but when I wasn't getting my paycheck. My morale and motivation went downhill very quickly!
I was never offered any benefits like health insurance.
In the 6 months that I worked their, 4 paychecks bounced and 2 paychecks were at least a week late.
My opinion is that this is a company to avoid at all costs. However, most likely, they have a new business name now. Last I heard, it was Millennium Marketing Group.
P.S. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say that this 'outsider (z)' is really an "insider".
| nobody 2011-08-10 18:46:33 Unknown |
Most recently, Millennium Marketing Group. Which was the stupidest thing ever because there is already a different company by that name that is dominating on the online complaint forums. They should have done their research, I'm sure that they lost some business having the same name as a company that is already on the scam websites.
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