i don't know, there was no one there when I answer the phone. I just felt weird, so I just Google it.and here it is, a scam uh.
Showed as ALS on my caller id. When I answered it was a recording offering back tax help.
Recorded message marketing call for back tax assistant
801 850 9336 called my unlisted cell ph #. Left no message & no name on caller i.d. Looks like a back tax scam as prev posts indicate. Probably a computer automated dialing system or some such.
Telemarketer recorded message.
YOU CAN FILE A SMALL CLAIMS ACTION IN YOUR AREA BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS HERE!
As I have not had a chance to fully compile the list of every Small Claims Court in the United States yet, please visit this list until such time. If and when I get my list fully compiled, I shall be including a lot of extra data such as links to the applicable court rules and which courts allow the filing of claims online as mine does.
Suing Telemarketers - Simple and Cheap
When most people think about the process of suing a business entity, they naturally consider it a complicated and expensive process. They consider having to find an attorney who specializes in the particular area of law, the costs for such and weigh it against the potential gain. Forget all that when it comes to suing telemarketers!
For those individuals like me who have succesfully prosecuted cases against telemarketing firms, there is little need for an attorney. (A cover-my-posterior caveat: I am not an attorney, so I cannot legally advise you. Whenever you are considering legal action, it is always advisable that you consult an attorney. Personally, I have never needed one when filing claims against telemarketers, but you may wish to consider doing so.) The key is that the best venue for filing suit against a telmarketer is in your local Small Claims Court. The only fees you must pay are the filing fees (varies upon venue and amount, but generally is somewhere around $50) and the fee to perform service of process (anywhere from $10 to $100 depending upon whether or not you have the court serve the telemarketer via certified mail or you have a law enforcement officer or other process server handle such). When the potential gain is thousands of dollars, what is a hundred bucks?
I have personally filed four claims in Small Claims Court against telemarketers. I have been paid on three of them (the fourth was against SBC and they gave me such a runaround on the process serving - BUT they stopped calling) that I let that one slide. Of the three cases where I was paid, the following were the results:
1. Filed a claim against a telemarketing firm based in Florida (Health Benefits Direct) for $1500. This amount was based upon two calls made after I told them to stop calling and their failure to provide me with a copy of their Do Not Call Policy. I settled out of court for $600.00 prior to the trial date.(Initial Cost to me: $55)
2. Filed a claim against a mortgage brokerage firm in southern California (due to settlement agreement, I cannot reveal their name) for $4500. This amount was based upon seven calls made after I told them to stop calling and their failure to provide me with a copy of their Do Not Call Policy and their failure to maintain a Do Not Call List. I settled out of court for $2000.00 prior to the trial date. (Initial Cost to me: $80)
3. Filed a claim against a mortgage brokerage firm in southern California (Country Club Mortgage) for $3500. This amount was based upon five calls made after I told them to stop calling and their failure to provide me with a copy of their Do Not Call Policy and their failure to maintain a Do Not Call List. I received a judgment for the the full amount of $3500, plus $60 in court costs. (Initial Cost to me: $60)
Adding up the above numbers, you can see that I invested $195 (or $250, if you consider the SBC claim that I let go) and received a total of $6160.00. Such is obviously a pretty good return on my investment and I doubt I spent more than three hours total on everything (five hours if you factor in the time I had to waste sitting in the court on the last action). Please also note that my local Small Claims Court allowed me to file everything through an online form. I didn't even have to go to the bloody court house, except in the one case where the telemarketer didn't bother to settle. So what do I do with the money? Well, I have been torn. On one hand, it seems a pretty smarmy way to make some money. On the other hand, these jerks are violating the law. I came to a compromise. Some goes to my child's future education; some goes to buy supplies for our troops stationed in Iraq, Afghanistan and Djibouti; some goes to basic household things. (And of course some goes to Uncle Sam as it is taxable income!). (UPDATE: I have been informed that this is not necessarily considered taxable income, but I prefer to be safe and treat it as such. Feel free to consult a CPA.)
Suing Telemarketers - So How Can You Do It?!
Remember, I am not an attorney. I discovered this information on the internet and learned through trial and error how to go about the process. Just like you, I become incensed when I get those calls and they will not stop. I decided that the only way that these firms (especially the mortgage firms) will stop their behavour is if more and more people avail themselves of their right to private action. Here is how you go about it:
1. Log the Calls
This does not need to be a complex process at all. Either utilize one of the tools I provide on this website or simply keep a notebook by the telephone. Each time a telemarketing call comes through you want to do the following:
* If you have Caller ID, mark down the telephone number and the caller information as presented on Caller ID.
* Mark down the time and date of the telephone call.
* If your telephone service provider provides inbound caller information (as my Vonage Service does, make a note in your notebook to make a copy of the applicable telephone records.
* Be nice to the telemarketer. Ask them to repeat their name, number and who they are calling for (act like you are a little hard of hearing if they seem suspicious). Ask them if they have a website. Sound like you are actually interested in what they are selling.
* Once you have gotten the aforementioned information, inform them that you are exercising your rights under the TCPA and that they must 1) provide you with a written copy of their Do Not Call Policy within the next few weeks and 2) they must place you on their Do Not Call List. (Please note: Telemarketers are allowed at least one "oops" phone call after you tell them not to call anymore. You cannot count this "oops" call as a violation.) Mark in your notebook that you have made these requests. Please mark any additional information (e.g. they were rude, they swore at you, they hung up on you).
* If I was able to get their website address - or such is easily figured out via Google - I like to follow up the telephone call by sending an email (preferably to an officer of the company) reiterating my demand for a copy of the Do Not Call Policy and that I be placed on their Do Not Call List.
* In most cases, you will never hear from the telemarketer again. This is a good thing. If they do not send you a copy of their Do Not Call Policy within a few weeks, you can assume they are not going to. Regardless of whether or not they call you again, you can sue them for failure to provide the Do not Call Policy. Personally, I do not bother as my goal has been met - they are no longer calling me. Nevertheless, they would be out of complaince, thus an easy $500 for you.
* Each time you hear from the telemarketer (after the one "oops" call), they are subject to a $500 fine payable to you. DO NOT accept what they say about their ridiculous assertions that they have 30 days to process such a request. The law is quite clear. In fact the Direct Marketing Association (which seeks to advance the interests of telemarketers and similar folks) has this page which spells it out rather clearly. (In fact I submitted this page as evidence against one of the telemarketing firms.) I like to send emails to the company after each call. It takes only a moment and shows that you have made an extra effort to assert your rights. Usually the emails I get back are nasty: "you are a sue-happy scumbag, yadda, yadda, yadda". Ignore the vitriole, but save the email. Judges in Small Claims Court love to see this stuff as it is further evidence of the "scuminess" of these folks.
Stop the calls.
No one says anything when they call on the phone # of 801-850-9336. They need to get a life instead of wasting time bother other people.
Absolutely. I took the 30 seconds necessary to file a complaint. It's a lot quicker than having to run to answer the phone only to find out it's a recorded scam!
They're calling my business line, which we don't answer unless it's a local call. But when they leave the recording as a voicemail, it's still a hassle to log in, listen to see what the message is, delete. VOIP and recorded sales pitches has made it possible for them to call millions of numbers for free.
You can't report this because the complaint form on the DNC complaint site won't accept the number the call was made to. It tells you NOT to use spaces or dashes but won't let you continue. Not very helpful.
another telemarketeer, I filed a report with the FCC, Do Not Call List.
Dave with ALS... Recorded message. They claim to be some kind of IRS tax debt help. Total Scam!
If you owe more than $10,000 in taxes....
yada, yada, yada
8018509336 called my unlisted burner phone. no message & no name on caller i.d.
NEVER call back. The number you call may itself incur a nasty connection charge - there's the scam.
Truth about donotcall laws
Also remember that illegitimate companies and scam artists won't respect these lists.
Therefore once your enrollment goes into effect you should be extra careful of unsolicited telemarketing calls unless you know they come from a company with which you have a legitimate, established relationship
Thankfully I missed the call this time and they left no recording. I see I didn't miss anyone important! Thanks for this look-up site!
I keep getting charged for their incoming calls from Provo. UT
I just received another call, tried to connect with them and no luck.
Because they are not calling numbers. They have a machine dial numbers one after another until someone answers.
Me! They keep not answering when I pick up.
funny this pathetic creep talks about solving legal problems when they know they are doing an illegal robocall.
Pathetic beyond words.
GOOD info Liz. I reported them before but they called again today. Need to keep reporting them. With enough complaints, hopefully they will be levied a HUGE fine!!!
Yeah, I got a call from 801-850-9336 and the recorded message said it was Dave from ACS. They pitched a scam deal to defraud the United States, via NOT paying the IRS. I hear these scam companies takes your money and you still have to pay the amount owed. Since I have to pay for the full minute of the call, ....yes, that's right, I am paying money to get phone scammed.... I let the message run the full minute. I was ablre to leave a message about not calling me anymore and that I will report them to the Do Not Call Registry and hopefully they will be fined.
This number continues to call my place of business and when the call is answered, there is dead silence. It is quite annoying when they are taking my work time to answer these types of calls. I wish we could block numbers here at work but we cannot.
"Dave" of ALS wants to help irresponsible taxpayers out of their responsibility to pay income tax debt. Call 888-712-4668. Once there, you can say "opt out" to remove your number from the call database. Excuse me ALS there's such a thing as a little federal law... No Call List... that you apparently don't respect. So I called the number and "Francisco" called me back. I told "Francisco" that I intend to report the call to the Kansas AG and to the Federal No Call violation site. What the heck, "Francisco" hung up on me. How rude is that?
Got a call on 8/25/10 from 801-850-9336. No message left. I am so tired of telemarketing calls when i am on the government's supposed "do not call list".......
AHHH. A ROBOT call SCAM telling me how they will help with my TAXES.
I pay my taxes, thank you.
My number is on the FEDERAL DO NOT CALL LIST, so they can expect a lawsuit any day now.