Legacy Reliance Group kept calling my family and threatened my aunt that she was going to be arrested (I guess the caller assumed my aunt was me). When I called the company I was so worried because I had no clue what they wanted. Walter took my call, he was very nice and professional. He told me that it was a bad debt from 2009. I told him that I wanted to verify that the debt was mine and to send me proof in writing. He said that he had already done so and didn't have the time to send me another letter. I told him that without verifying the account information in writing, I couldn't confirm that it was my account. He got rude, real fast. He said that there is no time to dispute the account and that I would be seeing him in court.
Their ploy is to scare people. First thing he did was verify my information, which was up to date and correct. Then he proceeded to tell me that there currently is no warrant out for my arrest. This kinda freaked me out. Why would there be a warrant out for my arrest?? for not paying a debt?? The way I see it, if I haven't yet received any documentation regarding this complaint and since they refuse to "resend" documents, I have nothing to be worried about.
I spoke to other collection agencies in the past and asked them to send me documentation to confirm or dispute the info and without hesitation they sent it to me. Based off of this, I think that this is a scam. I will let you know if I ever receive a summons or anything from Legacy Reliance Group.
gave us a case # and said the name of a person that was a really weird name was going to sue us, didn't say why, could tell by the name it was fake. I told them didn't know that person, she could go ahead and sue. They knew our full name and address.
Its a scam. They tried to get my debit card number. I filed a complaint with the BBB, Consumers finance, and attorneys General. They havent called since lol.
They called my HR department and said they needed to get a hold of me. That is wrong. When I called back - they put me on hold for way to long. I have no idea what this about!
Angry as Hell
It is a scam.. they WILL NOT serve you.. Do not call them back!!
Myra Cruz just called my job saying they are serving me tomorrow. I can call 1-855-318-3937 and give them the case number she gave me to discuss the matter further.
Angry as Hell
Doubt they will do much especially if the # is spoofed. Let us know what the AG comes back with.
...and they called my mother inlaw. Off to the attorney generals office I go!
LOL, this Mayra Cruz is at it again! She just called and left me two new messages. They never stop!
Angry as Hell
Youm are doing everything right here.. It seems like they are a typical scammer. If they can not supply you proof then they have nothing. Also servers do not call you to forewarn you they are going to serve you papers. Did they only offer to take a credit/debit card or have you get a green dot or send it western union?
I always ask them what addres do I send the payment to.. They will either give you a PO BOX or an address like this or UPS Store that has a so called "suite" number. Also check any address they give you out and you will notice the above is the address .
I checked with a UPS store and the owner of the box can have the mail forwarded to another address.. That is how they do it and it is hard for them to be found.
Ok, so Im bored. I figured Id write out all the info I have so far on this "company".
Earlier this week I recieve a message on my work phone from a Mayra Cruz. In this message she left a file number and said it was about a "complaint" being filed against me, and that if I dont call they will "make a decision without my consent". The number she left to call back was 855-318-3937. I didnt call them back since it seemed like one of these payday loan scams to me.
2 days later, Mayra Cruz calls my works receptionist while I wasnt here and said they are trying to serve me paper work. The receptionist transfered her to my HR dept and Mayra told them the same thing about trying to serve me papers. Naturally my HR dept told me about it.
At this point, it prompted me to call them since they were calling my HR dept. So I call back and ask to speak with Mayra Cruz. They answered it "Corporate answering services". They tell me they dont know who that is but transferred me to someone named Joseph.
Joseph proceeds to tell me its for a debt I owe to a credit card company I actually did used to do buisness with (this is when I started to fall for it). He says they sent me two letters telling me they were going to sue if I dont pay (they never sent me anything) and he proceeded to read me my correct address. Joseph did not have an accent, and actually sounded very professional.
I told him that I need proof in writing showing that I owe this debt and then I would look it over. He then tried to offer me a variety of payment plans to "settle out of court". I told him if he can prove in writing that I truly do owe them this debt, then I may consider one of those options. He said he would email me all the documentation but I would only have 24 hours to "virtually sign" these documents and provide them with my debit card number. This was yesterday, and he never emailed me anything. I even called him again to verify he had my correct email address. He simply replied "Oh yeah...it takes a while, youll get it soon".
So I contacted a lawyer to see what they said. They clamied to never have heard of the company, but to send them a debt validation letter. So on thier website (www.legacyreliancegroup.com) I found the address:
155 N. Riverview Drive Suite 100, Anaheim Hills, CA 92808
So I Googled this address and found out that it?s a ?Virtual office? address. In other words, no one physically works at this address. Its an address companies can use to have mail sent to, or to use on a company letter head. Anyone can set up one of these virtual office address for around $50.
So now, Im going to send a debt validation letter simply to see if I get a reply, and contact the original credit card company to see if they do business with this Legacy Reliance Group.
Ill keep this updated as I find more info.
The individuals calling from this number has harrassed me and talked rudely to me about what they were going to do to me. The callers name was Karen Meyers and she gave me a file no.That there was a complaint being forward to her her office, if you wish to discuss this pending action being filed against you can contact us at this no.If there is no response we will be forced to make a decision without your consent. The company name was never given.
Thank you. I found an address for them online (who knows if its real). Im going to send them a debt validation letter by certified mail. Im also contacting the original debtor to see if they do buisness with this company. Ill keep everyone updated with any info I find out. Im going to keep pushing them until I get an answer.
Angry as Hell
if they have your SSn , sure they could. some just buy old junk debt others the debt is made up .. see the payday scams forum threads.... they will not send you anything because they do not have legit proof. You may get an email stating you owe it but that does not prove it unless they show you your signature for the loan etc..
Thanks, but how would they know about a legitimate credit debit I owe from 5-6 years ago? Can scammers just pull your credit report? Anyway, the guy said he was going to send me some info via email to verify the debt and guess what...he never sent anything. I even called them to to double check and make sure they had my correct email. Hmmmm.
Angry as Hell
Make sure you get this right.. Theyare real people with fake names, fake company, fake website that gives no info on were they are located or who operates them..
The address on the website goes to a "virtual Office" so maybe these people are not real but virtual people..
They are SCAMMERS PERIOD!!
Just to let you guys know, this company is a real company. I called them back and they had all my info and info about an old debt that I do owe. I'm not sure if they would actually sue you or not, but they do appear to be a real company.
Got a message from these people too. When I tried to call it bank, someone answered it as "corporate answering services"
Does anyone know if this company is real? They have a website and seem legit. Please let me know any info you have, I haven't been able to sleep because of this.
Today they called me and left message. They say your name with case number file. I need your proof address. Please give me call. I will file against you. I call that number and they have message. Its from legecy reliance group. I did not leavey name on leave massage. I want to know is that scam and is that lied? They did not say about against me from where.
My DW got several calls on various lines (including her parents) with the same type of demand... it was a message from Brian Foster who stated that he was calling about a "Complaint" which immediately raised concern for DW. When returning the call, they answer Corporate Answering Service.
I'm going to ignore it for now, but would like to escalate this as this is clearly in violation on so many levels...
Legacy Reliance Group's website is a joke, sighting that they are one step ahead of the legislation governing their actions... clearly NOT.
thank you so much :-)
No its not!
read up on the laws and your rights:
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See Residents post here also:
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I received a phone call from this phone number as unavailable told me to call this number with a file number they gave me they claimed if i did not pay them $400.00 by january 31st they were gonna summons me and have me go to court where i would have to then pay $1550.67 plus court fees and attorney fees. Is this legal???