I got that same call. This caller Is trying to scare people into giving their personal infomation out so they can scam the unexpecting person. Do not respond to the caller just hang up

They ONLY have the last 4 of your soc.  I called my attorney general and she told me that is how they scare you.  they read mine off in the message too.  They are trying to get the rest and unless you give it to them, they don't have it.  HANG UP on these people, scream into the phone, say you are a police officer, anything reasonable and they may try a few more times but eventually give up.  This is my second round of phone calls, they do give up eventually.

they have called my mom and me. yes I used to use pdl's but they got a hold of my info and are calling to threaten and it is all completely false.  "from the fraud and investigation department" ...yeah right.

Hang up, blow a whistle into the phone, say you are calling your spouse, a police officer, to the phone. they will hang up instantly.  in time they will give up.  even if they have the last four of your soc, that is all they have. they want to confirm the rest, don't give ANY info.  I got that advice from my state attorney general. if they say they are coming to get you, ask if you will need a coat or a swimsuit.  play with them and hang up.  give them nothing.

They are calling my place of employment and offering legal services. Informed the half speaking individual that this is my work phone and he does not need to call my job again. The number is 863-438-1785

Got a call from the, call back to get their employer ID number and address to report fraud to Social Security for using the last four of my social and they hung up when I asked for this info.  When I tried to call them back twice my call was rejected, imagine that.  Don't let them talk but ask for this info.

just got the call today.  he had the last 4 numbers of my SSN!!!  he said them ion the msg and that it was an iportant legal matter.  don't ignore the msg.  I called back and got a generic answering machine.  The guy had a thick indian accent (i think)....

Got a call from this number thanks for all the post and will not give out info, but would like to know how to stop them

its a scam i told them i was gona get the police and he hung up lol what a a**hole

THIS NUMBER KEEPS CALLING OUR 911 DISPATCH CENTER FOR ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THEY REFUSE TO STOP CALLING EVEN THOUGH WE ADVISED THAT THIS IS AN EMERGENCY CALL CENTER. THIS COMPANY STATED THEY WERE FROM CASH LOAN, THIS IS A LEGAL ISSUE, AND THEY WERE INVESTIGATORS/OFFICERS.

I got that same call. This caller Is trying to scare people into giving their personal infomation out so they can scam the unexpecting person. Do not respond to the caller just hang up

threaten them with federal trade commision, attorney general and consumer affarirs. if you dont, they will get you fired from your job. they hang up on you and are rude. dont give them any info, but they will call anyone. old jobs, friends, scarey. but dont let them scare you!

Yeah these Calls trying to SCAM me for something I know better is both a JOKE and a PAIN. I just wanna know how do we take them out. I would think SCUM like this are TERRIOST FUND RAISERS and should be dealt with accordingly.

i do remember they name richard jackson and scott  jackson

i have been harrase for over the last six months with this same number.

Serious legal allegations against my name and social.  There are 2 different men calling

I am getting call  that there are serious legal allegations against my name and social.  There are 2 different men calling,

Well this number called me, its the same company and they just use different numbers. Well Victor Whoever called me wanting my attorneys phone number. Knowing that this is a scam I gave him his name M I K E C O C K (had to spell it out to him) and I gave his number as the number to the FBI cybercrime department. He told me his office was in Florida so I asked him if it was near disney world. Long story short they wont be calling me anymore. Poor guy just gave up and said you wont be called anymore. Problem solved for about 2 weeks then they will call again. If you get called they are total SCAMMERS!!!

just got one today..very strong accent with american names...they call so early...

I got the same calls even to my grandmother 90 years old scaring her. I think they get our info from Craigslist or other job listing site. Be careful with that.

I GOT A CALL LAST NIGHT.  HE SAID THAT HE WAS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF INVESTIGATION.  HE SAID  HIS NAME WAS OFFICER JOHN VOIT.  THEY ARE SCAM ARTIST AND THEY KEEP CALLING EVEN AT YOUR JOB THEY CALL TO TRY AND SCARE YOU.  SAY YOU ARE GOING TO THE POLICE AND HANG UP.  DON'T GIVE THEM ANY OF YOUR INFORMATION. THEY ARE PERSISTENT AND KEEP CALL THOUGH.  JUST HANG UP EACH TIME.

Thanks for the reply. She just started today calling at 1:30. I knew she would be a problem. The good thing is she not leaving messages and I can hear someone whispering at the other end. Unfortunately I can't make out what shes or he is saying.

received a call today from this number. He said he was an attorney out of tampa fl named Neil Johnson. I searched the florida bar while on the phone and there is no Neil Johnson. I said that to him and he just brushed it off. I asked him what law school he went to multiple times and he hung up on me

They are persistant calls. So far I've had three.Two men 1 woman.She is the worst.Shes called me 4 times in 1 day.If you get a call fron Haines City Florida don't answer.They won't leave you alone.

They keep calling me too.  They say that there is some serious legal allegations against my name and social.  There are 2 different men calling, saying that they are Office Kevin Jones.

Great info on these SCAMMERS


This is just another one of hundreds (and perhaps even thousands) of numbers these overseas payday loan debt collection scammers are calling from:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141: PLUS MANY OTHER LIKE NUMBERS

It's a scam, and all their threats are false and illegal.  The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal consumers' money.

Here are a few news reports and government advisories warning consumers about this scam:

ABC News:  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1
West Virginia Attorney General:  http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
WTAE TV4, Pittsburgh:  http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
Florida Commissioner of Consumer Services:  http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."

Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Christian Nicholas & Associates, US Federal Bank, Sonic Bank, Hopkins Law Office, CashNet, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (
http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 )  There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a *small* sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-336-553-3965
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-909-6789
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444

...and, many, MANY MORE.