Just got a call for my son from someone who said "they have really good news for him" and to call back right away. When I asked what it was about, she said "he filled out a contest entry".
Needless to say, he won't be calling back and now he knows better than to fill such things out, giving out my phone number which is on the "do not call list".
JF in WA state
Someone by the name of Ann called and left a message on my phone saying she was calling about my entry in the "Cool Car Cash Giveaway." I never entered any contest, so I have to assume this is a scam! How do I get rid of these people?!
First of all, I found this site by entering the number left on my answering machine into Google.
Second, this is really odd that everyone here is getting the same kind of call in the same month.
I filled out a contest entry form at a shopping mall here in Austin last year. It was for a car, a vacation, etc.
Yesterday a woman called, left her name, number, extension number and mentioned that I had filled out the entry last year, and left a message saying that my name "had been drawn" which is a really tricky way of saying "we're not saying you've won anything, just that your name has been drawn."
-->But most importantly for this "specific" company I have to tell you that I did actually fill out a contest entry form which gave the company permission to contact me about their promotion.
So, I'm not complaining about this specific instance, nor am I complaining about this specific company, both because I signed the entry form, AND because I have not returned their phone call to get specific information yet.
However, I would like to respond to some of the positive and negative posts about other companies and "possibly" this company. . .
I, like just about anyone who lives in the U.S.A. and owns a phone, have fallen prey to "legal" scams where a company "suggests" you "may" have won a prize only to set you up for a sales pitch in a small room with a bunch of other suckers.
From what I've read on the internet, when you actually win a prize, first of all its for something you have entered and you would remember entering it. Second, you get both an official notice in the mail as well as a phone call where they very specifically tell you that you have won and how to claim your prize.
Anything other than that and you're walking into a promotional campaign for some business.
-->I'm not saying that taking a vacation on some companies dime so they can pitch realestate or time shares or whatever is neccessarily a bad thing. What's a few hours of a sales pitch for a free vacation, pretty good deal.
But, despite the laws and fine print other professionals have pointed out here I think what the complaints are trying to get at is that it IS "unethical" to tell people, espscially people who live paycheck to paycheck like me, that their "name has been drawn" for "one of these prizes." Only to find out it's a "legal" scam to try and sell you something.
A lie through omission is still a lie.
Baiting and switching is still a scam.
And many of us are born suckers, as Barnum says.
Laws change, and laws about advertising and telemarketing and any kind of marketing or promtions have changed radically over my 37 year lifetime.
What I'm trying to say is just because it's "legal" and just because you may have signed something without reading through 25 pages of fine print doesn't make it right.
And just because it's legal doesn't make it "defendable" when it comes to right and wrong.
They called for my son -- said they have "really good news" for him and he needs to call back right away. When I asked what it was about, she said "he filled out a contest entry". I know he did that at a fair a few months back -- I ripped him a new one when the calls started, since we're on the "do not call list" and giving out our number presumably gives telemarketers an excuse to call.
Sounds like "Mary" (the second reply above) works for this company.
Called and said we won a trip after entering a drawing over a year ago with Wyndham hotels.
Can't remember entering a trip or not. Strange that all the people who posted they had been called by this number was this month and not sooner.
We are going to call it and find out what the sales pitch is. I'll post later once I find out.
Did you try speaking to the secretary? Maybe the person you were looking for was not in the office.
Some suspicion is good
mc77 -- There are many ways a company can get information about your recent hotel stay. The most important thing to consider is that -- if they really knew the name of the hotel and when you stayed -- the information came from a legitimate source.
If you called the front desk, they have no clue what goes on in the promotions or marketing department. Sometimes, one company will simply sell a list of customers to another company. Another possibility is that the call was from someone affiliated -- legitimately -- with your credit card company, or bank.
There are many frauds to be found among telemarketing calls. That doesn't mean something you don't understand is a fraud. Being alert is smart. Saying defamatory things you don't know to be true? Not so smart.
It's certainly okay to state your suspicions, but it's not very productive. They had some facts about you. If you don't like that, then I suspect you don't bother to read the fine print whenever you sign things, accept credit cards, open a bank account, etc. and so on. Most transactons these days have -- often hidden somewhere, and hard to find -- stipulations that "It's okay for us to bother you any time, and any way, if we decide to do it. And, it's okay for us to let other companies do the same thing."
The national do not call registry is part of the reason for this. It has a loophole. Any company that you've done business with in the past 18 months can contact you at will, even if you've put your phone number on the do not call list. If you give them your cell phone number, they can call that. If you don't give it out, they can't legally call you on your cell phone.
You might have been able to take a free trip to Nevada if you had talked to them. Many companies give those things away as part of their marketing strategy.
This afternoon, I leave Texas on a commmercial flight. I'll spend the next week in New York City, midtown. Right by Columbus Circle and the Time Warner building. We've gone there about every ten months for several years now.
I have collected enough money from telemarketers who violate the law to pay for these trips, a car, and other things. Chances are, the call you got would not have violated any rules. Might be irritating. Might cause anxiety about fraud. Not necessarily illegal.
If you didn't appreciate the call, I hope you said, "Put us on your internal not call list -- both for the hotel and for any other entity involved in this call." And recorded it. If so, it's worth money if the ever call back again.
They all know the law. Most of them try to comply. Others try to game the system a little bit, here or there, and fudge. Those, you can collect money from.
At least this outfit doesn't seem to be like the many car warranty offers which often involve various illegal telemarketing practices. Even though some of them are scams, and most of them operate on the wrong side of that fine line between right and wrong, the truth is that some car warranty offers are legitimate. That's what makes the scams harder to spot.
And, it's why we should all try to talk to them long enough to get solid information about them; company name, telephone number, location, etc. The sooner we get that kind of information posted, the sooner new recipients of calls can take them to court if they've violated some part of the law.
I received a phone message from (EMM?)Marketing stating I had been won a vacation for two: airfare, hotel, dinner on behalf of Worldmark (time share properties.) I was to contact her within 48 hours. Despite being skeptical, I called and left several message (within the 48 hours.) That was a week ago and I never receieved a callback. Not a very good marketing tactic for Worldmark.
Be Careful... Sounds like you're hooked
People now a days believe everything they here. Why don't you check out the company that you work for on line and tell us what you found out about them are you going to quite your job because someone complained.I can pretty much guarantee that it won't be all rose. Everyone has there own opinion but you have to be a individual and make you own decisions. If you listen to everyone else where is your individuality. I have heard great things about this company. So dig a little deeper before you make a comment.
The company is Global Service Network. They just calle dme today and afford me a free vacation for two, stating that we had to come has a couple to receive the vacation. after reading the list of complaints placed against them for bait - switch I'm glad we investigated them first before we wasted 1 hour of our day. RUN
What are you talking about !!! I am planning my vacation as we speak. So you should have taken advantage of that offer. Before you assume something is a fraud you should think first and investigate it. Maybe you thought that you were going to be arrested for some unresolved legal issue you have.This was not a sting operation.
I got a call from this number. The woman said that I had won a trip to las vegas or reno nevada which included airfare and hotel accomodations. Recently, for valentine's day I stayed at a Hotel and she said that I was entered in a drawing. I called the hotel I stayed in and they had no knowledge of this free trip. When I call the number back it just says "Thank you for calling. If you know your parties extension please enter it now." I suspect this is fraud. How they knew I stayed at the hotel and knew my address is beyond me.