They called me threaten my son with arrest if he did not pay the balance for a payday loan which he says he never had.

I was so afraid that I made arrangements with them to pay the loan off because I thought they were a real law firm.  They got my bank account number and was supposed to take 1 payment from my account every 2 weeks for a total of 2 payments during the 4 week period.  As soon as I got off the phone with them they drafted my checking account that very same day and of course it overdrew my account.  Three days later, they drafted my account again, overdrawing the account again.  They have drafted my account for a total of 4 times stealing $600.00 from me.  I have been trying to talk to my bank about what I can do about this but they tell me that there is nothing I can do because I gave them the information and even though I did not authorize them continue to draft my account, they can continue to do so.

I would love to be able to help to bring this company down and maybe make their lives as miserable as they have made mine.

Brown, Stein and Weissman is also using 678-672-6310.

A word to the wise, you should NEVER deal with ANY collection agency that starts throwing around terms like "check fraud" or other terms that make it sound as if there is a criminal act involved with a consumer debt.  Debts are civil matters; not criminal and agencies that use terms that make it sound as if a crime has been committed are themselves criminals - they are trying to scare you into paying them and by doing son they are breaking Federal law and likely your state's law as well.  If they sue you then they sue you...and you deal with it but collection agencies that so flagrantly break the law themselves cannot be trusted and cannot be dealt with in any reasonable manner.

CLOSE YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT NOW...NOW...NOW!

Banks Really need to get on the ball here

CALL THEM EVERY DAY AT 800-781-3445 AND PESTER THE PERSON WHO ANSWERS THE PHONE.

call me everyday with threating messages - bunch of morons -

I have dealt with them as well. I have filed a complaint with the FTC and the state of Georgia and the state of Georgia sent them notice to ceases and desist. I also sent them a certified letter advising them to send in writing proof of this debt and to cease calling me. They continue to call and at this point I am considering legal action against them. It is one thing when you are contacted in a legal manner for legitimate debts, but this company seems to be anything but legitimate.
Brenda C I hope you are able to get some resolution and repayment.
Regina T

This is Brown Stein and Weissman. They are trying to con you into paying an illegitimate debt using fear of prosecution and arrest. They recently changed their phone number from 800-781-3445 because so many people had caught on. Google that number if you want to know about them. If they call you, hang up, do not give them any information and file a report with the Georgia State Attorney Generals Office and the AG in your state.

Brown Stein and Weissman was dissolved on the 25th of October. Happy Happy Joy! Although now it looks like our 'debt' has moved to something called "Group Genesis & Associates"  IT seems they use the same Tactics and are owned by an actual attorney. If they call you I'd file complaints to the GA State Bar Asscn ASAP.


BROWN, STEIN & WEISSMAN LLC      Current Name
Limited Liability Company - Domestic - Information
 
Control No.:     10029814
Status:     Diss./Cancel/Terminat
 
Entity Creation Date:     4/22/2010
Dissolve Date:     10/25/2010
Jurisdiction:     GA
Principal Office Address:     1442 White Oak Trace
Loganville GA 30052
Registered Agent
 
Agent Name:     Brown, Kevin M.
Office Address:     1442 White Oak Trace
Loganville GA 30052
Agent County:     Walton

The new number listed above (877-687-0935) belongs to "Goup Genesis" - they just got their business liscence 2 weeks ago heres the info from the Georgia Secretary of States website: REPORT THEM TO THE AG!!!



Name      Name Type
GROUP GENESIS & ASSOCIATES, LLC     Current Name
Limited Liability Company - Domestic - Information
    
Control No.:     10071425
Status:     Active/Compliance
    
Entity Creation Date:     10/12/2010
    
Jurisdiction:     GA
Principal Office Address:     7704 Hampton Place
Loganville GA 30052
Last Annual Registration Filed Date:     10/19/2010
Last Annual Registration Filed:     2010
Registered Agent
    
Agent Name:     Britt, CPA, J.D., Attorney Gary L.
Office Address:     1200 Abernathy Road, Suite 1700
Northpark 600
Atlanta GA 30328
Agent County:     Fulton

These guys don't check the numbers they call. They have called an extention that is only used on a
midnight shift and has a voice mail with their name stated plainly. This number is not a new number for
the company it is at least 5 years old. I've had it that long. If a live person would call some of these
numbers they would not harass the wrong people. I will not call on my own off time (6:30 am- 8:00pm)
And now they just added 877-687-0935 to their list of call back numbers. This last call makes nine
in the last two weeks. I took it to the company IT Dept. they said they got nowhere.

checked the other day and they had deleted all the negitive merchant circle 'reviews' There were also several bad "talk to me" notes that I guess they could not remove b/c now the entire Merchant Circle listing has been pulled.

Companies who are on the up and up DONT DO THAT!

Anonymous,

   Speaking to your mother AT ALL about that is a violation of FDCPA. Saying you're involved in "illegal and fraudulent activity is also a violation of FDCPA. Leaving a message on your office manager's voicemail about your "important legal matter" is a violation of FDCPA. Don't call them, call an attorney. File a complaint with FTC, BBB and your state's attorney general's office. Do not let them get away with such blatant illegal practices.

   They have updated their website to the new number, 888-392-6130. Their website is also a blatant FDCPA violation, it actually says "Ensure the bad check writer pays for their crime with our negative credit bureau reporting. We make certain that when a bad check is written everyone knows about it. The writer will have his bad check on his credit report for 7 years, guaranteed." So now, I have to check my credit and make sure they're not falsely reporting something (which I am sure they are).

  Their website also says "Are bad checks running your business ragged? Get the money you deserve and recover bad checks with Brown, Stein, & Weissman,  check recovery specialists in Loganville, Georgia. We have a network of attorneys doing bad check collection, check litigation, and check recovery for businesses. Using modern technology, we put emphasis on a new methodology that has proven to be effective. Contact us to learn more about our check collection services." It appears they are claiming to have a "network of attorneys" as if they are a law office. I find it funny. They're not collecting on a "bad check" from me, they're trying to collect on a payday loan that I paid off four years ago! The fact that they continue to call after being notified by my attorney to cease and desist obviously means they're not fully abiding by the law.

These jerks called my 76 year old mother three weeks ago.  They told her that I was involved in "illegal and fraudulent activity" and they wanted to know if she knew where I was so they could arrest me.  They kept her on the phone for over five minutes, scaring her about their "investigation".  My mother had just the day before lost her sister to whom she cared for during her last years and days.  It left my mom so upset, she could hardly get the words out when she called to tell me about it.  

They told her that they were with this firm. Mom was so rattled she didn't write down the whole name of the company, so I couldn't bring them up on google at the time, nor could I pull up the phone number they left.  Today, my office manager received one of their threatening messages about "an important legal matter" on her extension.  This time I was able to pull the number and link the two calls together.

I am so pissed off right now I can't even SEE straight!!!!

I HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO GET BACK AT THESE MORONS. CALL THIS NUMBER AND HARASS THE PERSON ANSWERING THE PHONE. THE NUMBER IS 800-781-3445. KEEP PESTERING THEM.

You are awesome. They are almost too stupid to insult. Let us know if you get anything out of them. I have about 5 voilations I could get them for. Didn't know if it would be worth the time.

Legal Action, that was me filing suit. Let's see how they handle it.

They called me again today at 3:12 PM, but this time, no message.

A search for Brown Stein and Weissman brought me to this:

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/florida/flsdce/9:2010cv81171/366108/

Looks some someone filed suit last Friday. Awesome.

KM--
Report them to the Georgia Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs:

The following information as to how an expedited complaint with the Georgia Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs was extracted from: http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-800-781-3445/4


Send a statement VIA USPS to:
Georgia Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs
2 Martin Luther King Drive, S.E., Suite 356,
Atlanta, Georgia 30334-4600
or fax to 404-651-9018

Describe your contact with this company and their practices, using the form located at: http://www.georgia.gov/vgn/images/portal/cit_ ... mplaintform.pdf for expedited processing by their office.

It is extremely important to their case to include in your statement if the phone representative claimed to be an attorney, claimed that the firm is a law firm or alluded to the firm being a law firm or having lawyers on staff or something about a  network of attorneys that work for their firm. Also end your statement with the line below:

I respectfully request that the firm  Brown Stein and Weissman be prosecuted under the fullest extent of the law pursuant to 15 USC §§ 1692 § 814 and State laws regarding Fair Debt Collection Credit Practices.

Red,

  They can't sue me because they refused to validate the debt. They also threatened criminal prosecution, but they can't do that either. They were calling me about a payday loan that I paid off four years ago. You can't file criminal charges in my state for a payday loan or post dated check, anyway. They have called me twice this week, so I think that's a total of 8 times since they got my C&D letter. Plus, they sent me a letter that said they'd prosecute (illegal) said in a couple voicemails they'd do so (also illegal) and they continue to harrass me.

   My attorney has no idea how to stop them other than to file a lawsuit, which will most likely result in a judgement, which will attach any of their revenue until it's paid. They might opt for mediation, but my attorney thinks they will just not show up, and that the judgement will be entered as a default judgement.

    Under FDCPA you are entitled to actual damages PLUS up to $1000 per violation. If I count right, I'm up to 14 violations so far, not counting phone calls that had several violations, and times I called where they said on their automated message "please ask to speak to someone in our legal department if you received lawsuit paperwork," which is a scare tactic, since they can't prove the debt in the first place. If I count the multiple violations, it's somewhere in the neighbothood of 25 violations in the month since they started contacting me.

Its unlikey they can sue any of us. You need to have origional paperwork to file a judgement and they don't have it.

The police told me this is extortion and not to pay them.

I just received 2 calls from these A$$H@LE$. One at my work and one on my cell stating it is imperitive that I call their office immediately. I don't even have a checking account. Is this a high priced phone call if you call them back? Like a 976 number?

KM - I got to a point where I got excited everytime they called me after they got my C&D, becuase everytime they did I filed another report. (I think I've filed 4 in total with my state and GA) I just let him keep digging a hole. If he's that stupid. . I'll play along. The GA state attorney threatened to fine them up to $2000 per day that they are in violation.  I assume he's gotten more than one lawsuit and fine, hence he changes his business name about every year, sometimes less.

i keep getting phone calls to my cell and work # with this phone number. do not leave a message on cell but have left one message at work saying they are Brown,Stein, and Weissman and i or my attorney must call back due to check fraud what is this about and why not leave this message on my cell # since you call me there at least 5 times a day. not one message on my cell

Brown, Stein and Weissman started using this number to contact me after my attorney served them with lawsuit papers for violating the FDCPA. It leaves an automated message to call them back. Kinda funny, because with each message, they're just hurting themselves. Each one is a violation of FDCPA since they know I'm represented by and attorney and they got a C&D letter from me.

On your complaint use this address:

Kevin Brown
1442 White Oak Trace
Loganville GA 30052

Thats the business address on the business liscence. The police told me this is Kevins house. The company address they give is just a box at a UPS store.

Yep, that's exactly it. They have stolen information. They either hacked it, or bought it from someone else who did. It's scary.  Also place a security freeze on your credit report since, if like me, they have your SSN.

File here: http://consumer.georgia.gov/00/channel_title/0,2094,5426814_39102589,00.html

And here: http://www.ftc.gov/

And your local state attorney Generals office.

This number called my job and the operator transferred the call to my voicemail.  I was told by a mutual friend this company hacked into an account I opened credit with and now they are calling trying to get money for payments.  You need to tell them you are notifying the proper authorities and they will hang up.

I would like to file a complaint against Brown Stein & Wiesmann