Do they scam people for there money

today is 30 may 2014 ..bt still this guy is calling..he called me when i have not picked his previous number that is.864-252-8542.at 5:15 pm he called me with 864-252-8542 number and told me that he is calling from federal country court  house.then he told me that i have taken loan from some motherparent compney of amount 400$..this is due on me.and ihvnt paid so they will come and arrest me.he has all my email address and my home address too.i hvnt taken any loan bt i was got affraid..i hv told him plz give me some time i will contact my husband or my lawyer and wid that compney too.bt he has scolded me badly.he told me you cant cut the call our ofice wil get closed by 6pm so u hv to pay the case 400,if u want settlement.otherwise we will send police to arrest u..then u hv to do every thing in court..min 5yr prision.i was totally horrified bcz he was using all leagal terms.
     i was telling his that i dont have case hw i will pay u.then he told me wid full aggrisiveness wat u want jail or settlement.
then i hv told him settlement.then he tols me to arrange 400$.i hv told oki will arrange bt i need time .he told me ok u hv only 20 min(almost 10 min he has tortured me mentally) if u will come after 6 pm with 1000$ also i cant help u..
    all off sudden i hv got idea nd i hv told him ok i hv to go my frnds house to arrange the money bcz i dont hv nd my husband is also nt there.then he told me ok go bt nt cut the call bcz it is monitoring by federal court i hv told ok bt i cant take it to my frnd house (landline number).he told ok bt dont tell him anything bcz it will be against law.i went to the frnd house from there i hv called my husband nd he has told me that it is absolutely scam only bz in his office also sm body has got this type of call.
so i was relaxed i came back too my office nd i hvnt replied to his call.then after some time i hv checked the number on the internet nd i hv got this site.till 7:30 pm hw was calling me bt i hvnt picked his call.
i dont know wat exactly we should do for this type of call.

I have calls lots of calls from this number 917 460 4116 and spoken this person he said he's name Michael brown from cash advance of america and he said I will be able to get the two thousand loan direct deposit to my bank in 30 second soon as I buy a  insurance for 172 dollars .and thank goodness I'm smart enough to think it over if is a scum I have that instinct feeling.so I look up this number this is what I find out, thanks to this site now I have a peace of mind.by the way I filled up and application over the online for loan this is what happen I almost got scum....thanks 800 notes.

I have also got a call from this number stating his name is Mike Brian, and I have been approved for a loan. But prior to him call I already got a call from same place a man by the name of Eric Foster and rip me off for 548.63.
Sure wish I would have look at this stuff a week ago, cause they just got me. They also call from 917-368-3688 if you call this number back it says Cash Advance.

I just got a call from this number.  He stated that he is calling from a loan company and I said I did not call a loan company.....he said something that I couldnt understand and laughed and hung up.  Called reight back so I added his a** to the reject list.  I dont have time for low life scum bags.

My daughter and I have always had many Indian friends, and I certainly have no prejudice against people from India.  But these disgusting scammers make me cringe now, everytime I answer the phone and hear an Indian voice.  I keep thinking it will be one of the participants in the so-called "Indian scam" -- and, unfortunately, it usually is.  These guys are giving good and decent people from India a bad name.

Interestingly, they are also giving the payday loan industry and even worse reputation than it already has.  One time, when I got sick of the Indian scammers telling me that I owed money to a company called CashNet USA -- and I most definitely did not -- I called CashNet USA to see what they had to say.  I got to talk to one of the company's senior attorneys, who frankly admitted that the scammers were hurting their business, because people assumed that the company was hiring rude people to harass people and making fraudulent demands for money.  They have talked to federal agencies and state agencies about stopping the scammers, just as ordinary people have done.  I've done some research and concluded that CashNet USA is actually one of the more reputable PDL companies around; they actually refrain from doing business in my state, which prohibits PDLs, while most of the PDL companies that troll the Internet will make loans to anyone, from any state or the moon, regardless of the laws in those states.  

You should also know that the Indian scammers have not stopped with accusing people of defaulting payday loan companies -- I think they started there because they had contacts in call centers that worked for these companies and could get lists of clients with their birthdates and such, and because the users of such companies were often good targets for scammers because they were not very astute about money.  Now, these scammers are claiming that people owe money to reputable banks and other organizations.  I think that some of them are also part of the new scam that claims people owe debts to the IRS, although there are also some good old fashioned Americans who are trying to bilk other Americans that way.  There's one firm -- I think it's based in the mid-West -- that has some of the most vicious scammers I've encountered.  It's a good thing I'm at work all day, during the week, because my phone rings constantly with these idiots. I use Comcast as my phone provider, and I can actually get a list of all the phone numbers that called me, even if I don't answer, on-line.  I can then check on-line, to determine which of the numbers that called were legitimate and which were scammers.

My advice to anyone who is getting scammer calls:  JUST HANG UP.  Don't bother cussing at the people.  Don't get into a discussion that raises your blood pressure.  If you pick up the phone and hear that "dead air" that suggests the call is coming from a call center "boiler room", just hang up before anyone starts to talk.  And if someone does start to talk, just say, politely, "Sorry.  I'm not interested," and hang up immediately.  If you are truly feeling ticked off, just say, "I don't deal with scammers," and hang up before the person can answer you.  Then take the phone off the hook or shut off the ringer for a while!

Sharon

Received several calls also but told me his name was Mike Brown from Cash America, but did not speak very good English. Wanted to know if I applied for a loan. I hung up first time, but they call every few minutes I called back said don't call me no more is been 30 minutes now haven't heard back.

oh my god!!  i just got , got from mike brown and now i have to go to the police to report this guy.. he somehow got my number when i was applying for a cash loan on the internet and i had so many calling me, that said that i was approved that i finally started to give in.. and was that the biggest mistake of my life.. they told me (mike brown) that i was approved for 10,000.00 loan and that all i had to do was to go and get a greendot card and put 155.00 on it for the loan application fee and then go to the western union to give them the mtc (money control number) but as he took my $155.00 off of the green dot card he said that ok now since that he got me approved that i had to pay only 5% of the 20% that his company encoure for the loan and i said what you didnt say anything about that. he then replyied that well we are paying 15% that my company's pays and if i didn't pay it then they would be able to do the loan.. so i said well give me back my $155.00 dollars then and he saiid that's not refundable and i think i almost lost my mind.. but as i calm down he goes , well look i see that you really need this loan and what i will do is i will pay 300 for you and you go get a (my vanilla network card and put 200.00 on it and then you can go get your 10,000 dollars loan...so i withdrawed it and call back and he said ok great curtis i will transfer your money and you  can pick up the loan but when i went to the western union the girl said that the mtc is not available and or its was on hold or something.. i was furious and when i call back mike said well something was wrong with the vanilla card that it didnt have any money on it and said that he didn't like people playing games with him and hung up on me after they took my 400.00.. so every time i call back some indian guy says mike is busy with real customers and that i'm now longer a customer cause i don't have any money when them mf took my 400.00 dollars.. i'm so angry but what can i do ... any one care to help me get these bad guyes

do we just ignore these calls?? they don't leave a message, or at least they haven't yet...

Exact same call received by my Husband today almost word for word only you couldn't hear any co. name or person's name it just started with reading off the number to call then the rest almost same word for word. You'd think people would have better things to do with their time!!

This caller just called me threatening me if I did not give him personal information.  Told me he would send me legal paperwork with a subpoena for law suit and I would go to jail for 6 months.  His name was Frank Murphy.  Then when my fiancé called the number back a woman answered and said she was Frank Murphy.

Just got a call from all the above that everyone has been talking about. This stuff needs to stop

I received the same call about this scam!

I got a call from Michael Brown at this number. His accent was so thick all I could understand was a complaint against my social security number & wanting to know my attorney's name. I basically told him that I know this is a scam and hung up. I've had these calls off & on over the years. They run for a day or so then disappear for a couple of years.

I received calls from this number about a year and a half ago. I reported it to the Attorney General and it all stopped. Today, I got a call at work and then 5 calls on my cell. Julian Marshall is the name of the guy who calls (not his real name I bet) and he threatened me, told me he would call my manager, then told me that he called my lawyer and he doesn't know me! He then gave me a lawyer who I need to call, Frank Murphy from Kingston NY, which a hundred miles away from where this tn originates. But told me its the same number. He still hasn't told me what this is all about and finally I told him to pursue his action.

In my messege I was also told "may God have mercy on me"  What a joke!!

Guy said his name was Brian Murphy. Had a middle eastern accent. Told me "may God have mercy if I do not call him back." Scared me. These people are horrible.

Received a call from this number and could not understand the person on the other end just that is was a legal matter then they called my work number and said it was not a personal call but work related when I stated could not receive personal calls at work...isn't calling your work number considered harrassment?

I TOO JUST RECEIVED A CALL FRON THIS NUMBER AND WAS GIVEN AN HOUR TO PAY 128 DOLLARS. THAT I WAS FIXIN TO GET ARRESTED IF THAT MONEY WAS NOT PAID. BEING ON FEDERAL PROBATION I GOT SCARED BUT THEN I LOOKED UP THE NIMBER AND FOUND IT WAS ALL A SCAM. THANK YOU GUYS FOR POSTING YOUR MESSAGES.

these people are crazy  917 460-4116 frank called and then turned around and called my employer

WOW!!!!!!!! Can you say frightened!!!!!!!!!!! the call to my job from a man threatening me and screaming at me. He said his name was Frank Murphy and I received the same similar threats as you all have. I will be following the instructions given on how to protect myself and Im so glad that Im not alone in this very serious and scary matter.

GOT A CALL TODAY ON MY CELL WITH A MESSAGE FROM DANIEL WALKER.  SAID I HAD TO CALL HIM BACK IMMEDIATELY, BLAH BLAH BLAH.  THEN HE CALLED 3 TIMES AT MY WORK AND TOLD THE PEOPLE I WORK WITH THAT HE WAS DANIEL WALKER AND WAS CALLING ABOUT A LEGAL MATTER AND HAD BETTER CALL HIM BACK.  HE HAD AN INDIAN ACCENT.  THEY WONDER WHY WE DON'T TRUST THEIR PEOPLE.  GO FIGURE.  

I received a call from frm a "David Murphy"  (917)727-6870, he stated the exact same thing.  I was getting these calls last year as well but ten they stopped.  Unfortunately they're back!!!

Read my post. It tells you what you need to do.

I also was told the same exact thing what did you do about that?

I also got the same phone call an hour ago can they get your information? I have an online loan but I'm very pleased with the company. But I don't want any identity fraud  I'm afraid someone will steal my identity what do I need to do to resolve this?!

This is a criminal extortion scam operating out of India. They are making the calls utilizing VOIP and the names of legitimate firms to make it appear the calls are originating from within the US. There is NO "company" or "debt" and you will NOT be arrested. They are harvesting and/or buying consumers' personal identifying information and you need to do whatever you can to protect yourself. This includes: Notifying the FTC: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/, placing fraud alerts with all three credit bureaus, notifying your bank and employer and letting these criminals know you are aware they are attempting to extort money for a non-existent debt and have alerted the authorities.

Read this investigative report ABC News did on this scam:

Hundreds of thousands of cash-strapped Americans have been targeted by abusive debt collectors operating out of overseas call centers suspected of links to organized crime in India, law enforcement officials told ABC News.

The calls are part of a massive scam, one that appears to target struggling Americans -- especially those who have gone online to apply for payday loans. Armed with personal information from those pilfered applications, the threatening callers, who claim to be debt collectors poised to initiate legal action, have managed to pry loose millions of dollars from their victims -- even when the victims never owed money in the first place.

"This is what we call a phantom debt collection scam," said Jon Leibowitz, the chairman of the Federal Trade Commission. "It's a very pernicious and innovative new fraud."

Working through call centers in India, the commission estimates that the criminals have dialed at least 2.5 million calls, persuading already cash-strapped victims to send them more than $5 million. Some have reported receiving dozens of calls per hour. They are victims like Cindy Gervais, of New Orleans, who went online for a quick loan when her husband's car was hit by a driver who didn't have insurance.

Even though she paid the loan off, the so-called "phantom" debt collectors with Indian accents began calling to say she still owed money.

"He more or less told me that if I didn't pay, they were going to have someone on my doorstep to arrest me," she told ABC News. "And that they were going to contact my place of business, and tell them what kind of person I am."

At first, she said she resisted. Then the calls became more frequent, and started to ring on her cell phone, and at the grocery distribution company where she had worked for 27 years.

"I was more or less in panic mode because he told me there would be someone before noon at my place of business to arrest me and take me to jail," she said tearfully. "So I agreed to pay him."

After receiving scores of complaints, investigators with the FTC said they began tracking the calls, and following the payments. They alleged the payments led them to a California company run by an Indian-American named Kirit Patel, and that such scams would not be possible without American front men.

"I would say that all roads of this scam, or many of the roads of this scam, lead back to Mr. Patel," said the FTC's Leibowitz.

ABC News tracked Patel for weeks, from the suburbs of San Francisco to Austin, Texas.

Patel refused to talk. But his lawyer, Mark Ellis, said he believes it is far too early to pass judgment on his client. Ellis, a Sacramento-based attorney, told ABC News that Patel was hired for a nominal fee to set up an American shell company, and had no idea what the call centers in India were doing.

"I can tell you, he was as snookered by the people in India as anybody," Ellis said. "He's a 69-year-old man who is nearing his retirement who thought all he had to do was set up some corporations and everything was on the up and up. He's completely dismayed that he has become the lightning rod of this entire problem."

A close friend of Patel's also defended him in a brief interview at his home, saying Patel was not trying to defraud anyone -- he was just an unwitting, bit player in a larger scheme.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/phantom-debt-co ... ory?id=16512428

Wow, I just got the same call and he said I need to contact your attorney because a lawsuit has been filed against you and your SSN.  I said I have no idea what you are talking about and hung up.  His English wasn't that great.

I as well got same message, same names and games. Can we not file for harassing and calling on our cell phones when we've asked to be on no call list.

It won't do any good.  He's probably in India.  The thing to remember is that debt is civil, not criminal, so you wouldn't be getting arrested.  And in the US, NO ONE gets a heads up that they'll be arrested - the cops just show up.