I keep getting call from this number and a couple of others saying they are with Step in Bathtubs.  I have asked several times to be removed but still am getting calls from them.  But when I call back to see who will answer is states that it is a none working number. UUUUGGGGHHHHH

One fun way to get them to stop calling is to answer the phone "Sheriffs office, how may I direct your call?"

When they question if you are a business say the same thing but with anger in your voice. They won't call back. Worked for me a few times plus it's fun to mess with them.

making stupid noises than hang up..

thanks for the info.  I just put in the complaint.

Got a call from these people asking if I had any negative side effects from birth control. Lady was a real bi*** and hung up when I told her I was a guy and asked who she was.

Definitely a scam. They have called my cell every day for a week, won't leave a message and when I call back it goes to a voicemail about an oil change offer.

After 5 missed calls in 2 days, I finally answered.  Somebody "confirming" the survey that I filled out and said something about returning to college.  When I said no, they hung up on me.

How do these ppl keep getting through on these numbers that are on the do NOT call list? My number is also on the do NOT call List. I tried to call it back and the number said it can not be dial please check the number and try again.. Somebody needs to put a stop to these ppl

did you stop by their office? any luck?
they've called me 6 times today!!

Robert Allen is a Real Estate guru.  He Teaches Real Estate Investing.  His course materials are very good.  He'd be worth going to listen to at one of his seminars.  However, his telemarketers appears to be illegal per the Do not call registry!

For those of you with Statements from Debt Collectors/ Collection Agencies;   Debt Collectors – Collection Agency's are not under DNC registry.    

Fed. Law says you have NO obligation to Collection Agencies-Debt Collectors; if you send them a written letter they can’t contact you ever. Only Lawyer’s that can sue you, have to be in your home state.  Some Law Firms do have Firms in other states, so you have to ck before sending a Cease & Desist letter to make sure they aren't in your home state.  

The law, Fair Debt Collector Practices Act. @ FTC.gov. Most collection agencies, buy a past due debt for pennies per dollar.  You don't have any agreement/contract with a debt collector or collection agency.  Your only contract is with the original creditor.

Do NOT agree to any payments or you'll be creating an agreement/contract, where upon initial contact by the Debt Collector, one didn't exist.

They lie, & will tell you whatever they need, in order to get you to agree to paythem. The lies are illegal, & they're probably on commission for what they collect.  

Don’t ever give out any personal information.  Tell them to send you a written statement & you'll respond. Then hang up.  When you get that statement send the letter I’ve enclosed that I use.  Sign & mail that letter Certified Mail, so you have a confirmation of delivery!!!

Account #  
Amount in Dispute: $  

DATE
Dear  :

I am in receipt of your demand& for payment.  However, this Notice is to confirm that I do not wish to be contacted again by you, & that you are hereby put on Notice to Cease Communication pursuant to 15 USC Section 1692c(c).  Failure to comply with said Notice shall result in a complaint filed & submitted to, the Federal Trade Commission, & possible legal remedies in an appropriate United States District Court.

In addition, PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT, I am not waiving my right to dispute the alleged debt asserted herein, but at this time I am under no obligation to respond.  

Sincerely,
Your Name
Address
City, state Zip

Certified Mail#:  

I am not an attorney,  I’ve spent the past 2 yrs studying various Federal Consumer Protection Laws.  I’ve learned on my own through reading.   I have fought 2 lawsuits without an Attorney.  I’ve not had any legal experience, whatsoever. If you have questions, seek the advice of an Attorney.

Mortgages & Car Payment loans prob. do not apply here;  you need to seek the advice of a Lawyer.  

© rcmeek copyright 2009 All rights reserved

won't stop calling me.

Robert Allen is a legitimate person/group!  He has written books, and does Real Estate Investment Seminars and classes.  If you want to learn about Real Estate Investing/earning extra money, you may want to find out more information.  We have their class material, from a different co., that sold their class material.  Good quality stuff!

However, Debt Collectors – Collection Agencies –   do NOT fall under Do NOT Call registry, as they are not telemarketers.  However, they do constantly violate other Federal Laws, because us American's don't know the laws to protect us.  They are counting on that.  

- Federal Law says you don't have an obligation to Collection Agencies or Debt Collectors; you can send them a written letter and they cannot contact you after that.   This includes Attorney's in state's other than your state of residence.  The only Attorney's that can sue you, have to be licensed in your resident state.

A word of caution:  Some Law Firms do have Firms in other states, and Lawyers licensed in other states, so you have to do a little research before sending a Cease & Desist (Do Not Call & Go Away letter) to make sure they aren't in your resident state or you're likely to get sued by these #%#&*@!#%&@$^*.  

Once a debt collector makes contact with you, they also have to contact you within 5 days after the first phone call, letter etc., and give you validation/proof or judgment of the debt.  You are not required to ask for it.   They never do this!!!!

This law is known as the Fair Debt Collector Practices Act.  You can get it at FTC.gov; as well as other Consumer Protection Laws.

Most collection agencies, purchase your delinquent debt for pennies on the dollar.  Guess what? It is no longer your debt!!!  You don't have any agreement/contract with the debt collector or collection agency.  Your only agreement/contract was with the original creditor.

Do NOT agree to any payment arrangements, or you'll be creating an agreement/contract, where upon initial contact by the Debt Collector, one didn't exist.  The collection agencies are counting on you not knowing this little bit of information.  

The best advice I can give you is, do NOT talk to these idiots - they will leave you in a frustrated heap on the floor.  They lie, and will tell you whatever they need, in order to get you to commit to paying them.

The lies are illegal, but they honestly don't care, they're probably on commission for how much they collect from you and others like you.  

If you do answer the phone, do NOT give out your employer, social security #, DL #, Credit Card and/or Bank information, or any personal information.  Tell them to send you a written statement & you'll respond. Then hang up.  When you get that statement, google, Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and you'll probably find a letter you can send them   Or:  send the letter I’ve enclosed that I use.  Sign and mail that letter Certified Mail, so you have a signature and confirmation of delivery!!!
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Account #  
Amount in Dispute: $  
Account #  

Dear  :

I am in receipt of your demand for payment.  However, this Notice is to confirm that I do not wish to be contacted again by you, and that you are hereby put on Notice to Cease Communication pursuant to 15 USC Section 1692c(c).  Failure to comply with said Notice shall result in a complaint filed and submitted to, the Federal Trade Commission, and possible legal remedies in an appropriate United States District Court.

In addition, PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT, I am not waiving my right to dispute the alleged debt asserted herein, but at this time I am under no obligation to respond.  

Sincerely,



Your Name
Address
City, state Zip



Certified Mail#:  


In the Law of Novation: if a debt is purchased by another, for that to be a legal owed obligation, a new contract / agreement has to be written and signed by all parties.  Google Law of Novation and read up!!!

No I am not an attorney, just a well knowledged, educated consumer.  I have spent the past 2 years studying various Federal Consumer Protection Laws.  

I wasn't just satisfied knowing I could send a letter to a Collection Agency/Debt Collector and they had to go away.  I read that in the Fair Debt Collector practices Act law;  I needed to know why, what law tells me the reason why I can.

Everything I have typed, I have learned basically on my own through reading, studying, printing out and binding the laws and underlining/highlighting them.  Not to mention the knowledge I have gained on my own fighting two lawsuits without an Attorney.

I was sued by a Collection Agency, and waiting for a Court date. The Collection Agency Attorney, sent us a letter willing to dismiss with prejudice our lawsuit, if I dismiss our Cross/Counter Claim for Fair Debt Collector Practices Act violations.  Oh, I forgot to mention, we do not have an Attorney representing us; and I have not had any legal experience, in the past whatsoever.

I have read / printed & bound, my State's Rules of Civil Procedure and Rules of Civil Procedure - Evidence.  I catch Attorneys on violations of State Rules of Civil Procedure all the time.  And our Judge's let them get away with it.

And for those of you who say pay up and quit being a deadbeat; it appears that you have never had your life turned upside down, because a good job, not high paying by any means, but a supposed secure job, got your hours cut by 3/4.  

And then a couple years later, as you are just recovering, you lose that job.  And when you are in your 50's, a new job is not so easy to come by.  And when that happens, then what?  

Or what about a major illness, guess you've never had that either - too bad.  Maybe if you did, you'd understand why and how people end up getting in financial straights. Not because they chose to, or decided they were going to find loopholes to get out of paying obligations etc.

What if the money isn't there to pay these debts to begin with?  We've been barely able to pay a mortgage, let alone credit cards etc. It's easy to tell someone else what to do.  I hope someday, something throws your secure little world off its axis, and you find yourself in the very situation as some of us here. Maybe then you'd learn it isn't such a cut/dry situation.

Oh, we've struggled.  And the job last hasn't exactly been replaced.  We're still behind in our Mortgage and trying to catch up, as with our other legal obligations.  I can't work because of various health conditions, or I would, including a part time job at least.  My husband started his own company with the tools of the trade, and now contracts for copier, computer, IT technical jobs as he has a computer science degree, and has years of experience in the others, especially the wide format copier / printers / computers.

People, please read the Fair Debt Collector Practices Act; if a Debt Collector violates any one harrassment or other law in there; Federal Laws says you can sue them for $1,000.00 per violation.  Do it, and then THEY can pay off YOUR obligations!!!  

Again I am not an Attorney - but have learned these by my own experiences.  There are Attorneys you could talk to, and I would, if any violations of the laws have occured in your circumstances.  I am posting this strictly to help others maybe have a piece of mind, if they are up all night worrying about financial problems, and sick to their stomach in worry as I have been, and still are in some ways. I am again just a well informed, knowledgable consumer, who has spent hours studying the laws, because I had no where else to turn for help.  If anything I have written, causes you questions, please seek the advice of an Attorney.

Certain situations such as Mortgages and Car Payment loans usually do not apply here; so you may need to seek the advice of a Lawyer for your individual situation.

© copyright 2010 rcmeek All Rights Reserved

925-273-3423 from California.  No one there when I answered.

call the number back and it asks "if you want to be removed from the calling list press 1". I did that and havent gotten a call back from them since.

Ah, that would be it, then.  Should have scrolled down further.  Thanks for the tip.

They've been calling my husband and I at random times for the past few weeks.  How do I go about reporting them?

you need to write letters to the UTAH ATTORNEY GENERAL

STOP FREAKING REPEATING THAT THEY CALLED YOU


WRITE LETTERS !!!!!!!!


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"please stop calling"

you think that will stop?

Did you read the post above you?

I was wrong they have started calling me AGAIN, I filed a complaint !!!

Robert Allen Real Estate Seminars

Don't know who the caller is or how they got my number.  I am on the do not call list

This" snail phone spam " on phones that have been placed on the "NO CALL" list  is NOT acceptable.  I spoke to a person and asked them to take my number off of their call list. I was told "ok". So now we shall see.

Just another spineless sleeze bag who should go to jail. why wont the Gov make this telemarketing Federal and with Jail time. thats when this stuff will stop immediately!

I am on the do not call list and these people called me today 2/26/2010 at 6:24 PM CST.  Please stop them from calling me

Do the following

1. COMPLAIN FILE @  donotcall.gov

2. WRITE LETTER TO THE UTAH ATTORNEY GENERAL, about this company.

3. SEE #2

4. SEE #2 again.

5. Write letter to the UTAH ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE about this company.

6. SEE #5 and #2 again.

7. Write letter to the FTC as well.



WRITE LETTERS, using stamps, it gets results because they have to file the complaint and have to respond to it and act on it.


NO EMAILS

LETTERS via mail. with a 44 cent stamp


STOP repeating over and over that this company calls you, WE GET IT.

WE KNOW


This site does nothing to help you after 2 pages of the same info over and over again.



WRITE LETTERS !!!!


cmon people, dont be lazy.

been receiving this call almost same time 3x a week, i already blocked calls from telemarketers, this one still goes through! such a nuisance!

Please alert this number as a scam.  How does one get it off when you are on the "Do Not Call" list? It also comes through my cell phone.

I've been receiving calls from this number, but I haven't picked up. I hope they'll stop calling because it's getting really annoying.

keep calling me at work and I can't understand where they are from. I called the number and it asked me  if I wanted to be removed from the list and I said yes. Still calling.

I'm getting 3 - 4 calls a day from this number.  I never pick up and they never leave a message.  Who is this and why are they calling?