951-616-1934
CA, US
joan
joan
2011-06-06 21:07:55
Unknown
this guy calls indentify him self as gary smith and he can't even speak english. he is threating says is suing etc. i owe no bills so he has to be a scam. i have reported to attorny general and better business.
P
P
2011-06-06 21:07:55
Unknown
I just got a few more calls from this guy.  I don't know what to make of it.
Sounds like a scam but i can't find any info and the number sends me to a busy signal??

Today though he called from the following number. 721 810 676161 It looks to be a foreign number?
LMCurrie
LMCurrie
2009-09-01 21:34:39
Unknown
I just got this same called today...It really scared me b/c I'm only 21 and I've never had anything like this happen. His name was Shawn Richard and he told me that the sheriff was going to come and pick me up in the morning at my home address!!! I called and filed a complaint with the FTC and they told me not to worry about it...It's a scam. Why am I still nervous?
LAMET
LAMET
2009-07-03 15:43:55
Unknown
did you read Alfalfa's post at all?

REPORT THEM AS INSTRUCTED IN THAT POST. FILE EXTORTION CHARGES.
If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)
Lynn
Lynn
2009-07-03 15:36:58
Unknown
I recieved the same message from the same # last saturday. This shawn joseph guy was rather threatening.
Mike N
Mike N
2009-06-24 14:32:16
Debt Collector
Continuation of previous post.

Today I receieved another call from this number, this time identifying themselves as Financial Accountability Association Law Firm collecting for Federal Legislation of Unsecured Loans Association. I have gotten smarter with them and asked more pointed questions today. They provided me a case number and told me that I was being accused of violating federal banking regulations, theft by deception and collateral check fraud. The caller, identifying himself as Shawn Joseph, told me they are located at 1365 Chula Vista Dr in Las Vegas, CA 90045. Yes, he said Las Vegas, and I had him spell it to make sure I heard him right. Here is the skinny on the address. 1365 Chula Vista Dr is a bogus address according to the USPS website. Second, as we all know, Las Vegas is not in California, and the zip code is a valid Los Angeles zip code. He "Shawn Joseph", sounded just like the previous callers with a heavy arabic accent. He informed me that the account he was calling about was charged off in July of 2008, but could not provide me information as to when this payday loan was actually borrowed. In addition, the banking information that he had, which is one of my bank accounts, was not opened until some months after the alleged discharge, and the same applied to the e-mail address he stated that I used to obtain the loan.
LAMET
LAMET
2009-06-23 17:14:28
Unknown
THEY ARE HACKERS - THAT IS HOW THEY GOT THE INFO.  
I have also seen they may be part of a now out of business collection agency.  Collection Agencies have access to the credit bureaus and get the info from there.
Mike N
Mike N
2009-06-23 17:04:08
Debt Collector
I have recieved numerous calls from these people over the past several days both at work and on my cell phone. They have told me that they are with the Law Office of Crime Monitoring Service collecting for National Advance Payday Services. The first call was from an arabic man named Simon Jones, phone number 818-338-5053. Since then, I have recieved calls from a man with the same voice representing himself as Shawn Johnson and Shawn Joseph at phone number 951-616-1938, neither number of which correlates with what appears on my called id when they call. They have accused me taking a payday loan without intent to repay and threatened to serve me at work on three criminal, federal bank fraud charges. The demanded to speak to my attorney of record and new all my personal information, SSN, claimed to have a copy of my credit report and had names and phone numbers of people I have used in the past on loan applications as references.
cheryl k.
cheryl k.
2009-06-19 17:18:18
Unknown
my husband gets many calls from their too saying they are suing him or have an attourney to get ahold of him because he owes money.....he finally started cussing them out and threatened them and they hung up on him and now they wont answer his calls!!
kelly3379
kelly3379
2009-06-18 23:45:47
Unknown
Received first initial call yesterday afternoon 6-17-09 on my voicemail while I was at work.  Got a very threatening message left, tried several times to return call but no voicemail just busy tone.  Finally got thru to an "operator" who put me thru to another gentleman who would not reveal his name or what firm he represented.  Demanding my social security info, accusing me of running from an old loan from November 08.  Also telling me that he was reading me an affidavit for 3 federal criminal charges being held against me.  Of course I am in a panic by this point, this man told me I was a theif and kept asking me why I was running from debt.  He has my previous employer info, also left a message on my husbands voicemail for me, and had friends name that I apprently used as a reference for this apparent loan that was electronically transfered into my bank account.  When I asked what the account number was he told me he could only give me the 1st 3 digits, and then suddenly I got disconnected.  Could not get thru again.  Again on 6-18-09 I received another VM, same foreign dialect, same threatening message.  2 hours later received another call, but before he could threaten me I went a little crazy on him and informed him that I had filed a long list of charges I was filing on him.  They are using names like Steve Samuel, Bill Marsh, and James Martin but they are all the same persons voice.  Phone numbers include the following:  951-616-1934, 818-338-5069 so far.  Please don't get freaked out at first like I did!!  These people only want money and your identity!!
just helping
just helping
2009-06-18 14:59:58
Unknown
County: RIVERSIDE
Carrier: O1 COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
Phone Type: CELL PHONE, MORENO,CA.
Rate Center: MORENO

From Moreno California, as stated above, it is a cell phone. Not something a collection agency would be doing buisness or calling you from if it were a true collection agency.
lamet
lamet
2009-06-18 14:40:53
Unknown
Did you even bother to read the post in front of yours?
Bayoutiger076
Bayoutiger076
2009-06-18 14:38:30
Unknown
Get this call about once every 3 months, they cannot give any information and are very hard to understand (foriegn dialect) more than likely it is a scam.
Alfalfa
Alfalfa
2009-06-16 19:31:53
Debt Collector
From: http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-805-299-0901

It's a scam, and all their threats are false and illegal.

The Attorney General of West Virginia recently issued a press release warning consumers about this scam: http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm  (To my knowledge, this is the first time a state attorney general has issued a public warning about these crooks.)

And ABC News just did a report on this scam. Here's the link to the report:  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1

Here's some background. This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and maybe other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American debt collection scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."

Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, Sonic Bank, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444

...and many more.
P
P
2009-06-15 21:18:50
Unknown
I also got this number left in my voicemail. Called it and it rings and then a busy tone will appear.

He threatened me on the voicemail saying I better call or have my attorney call him or else, good luck?? WTF? I couldn't understand what he was saying, but that's what it sounded like. He's making threats??
vicki
vicki
2009-06-15 14:21:42
Unknown
Called and said it was an urgent matter and he was attorney sean johnson and sounded like a Mohammad.  951-616-1934
Threatened
Threatened
2009-06-12 19:41:45
Unknown
Person states his name is Rick Corner or Horner?????

Leaves a phone # of 951-616-1934 and states to have your attorney contact him immediately.No other information was given.
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