951-643-4358
CA, US
nicole
nicole
2011-06-06 21:07:56
Unknown
I got a call from this number. No message was left.
NRT
NRT
2009-08-10 20:44:27
Debt Collector
This b*****d Andy keeps calling my job with the same story.  He almost convinced me that he was legit until I heard the whispering in the background.  He threatened to subpoena me to on my job, I asked him to do so but he didn't.  He kept calling.  I agreed to settle for a $550, hell he was so forceful he manipulated me in to thinking that I owed him.  He sent me to the account person and that's when i heard the whispering and suggested that it was a scam.   The account specialist then sent me back to his father, Andy.  I am sooo pisssed.  I want to know how to report this and keep him from continuing to harrass me.
Bedazzled
Bedazzled
2009-08-06 20:33:31
Unknown
Well that's funny.  I just received a phone call from Andy Hunt as well.  I thought I would look it up to see if it was real and found all of this info.  He gave me a call back number of 858-248-4820 which of course doesnt work.  He wanted me to give him a payment via credit or debit card for $735.65 in order to keep from being charged with criminal charges in 48 hours. Oh and when I asked him the name of the company, he kept saying "you dont know" after telling him I dont know several times, he stated that the company was no longer in business and my debt was bought from them by the Federal Legislation of Unsecured Loans and this is why he (the attorney) is calling me.
MG
MG
2009-07-28 20:16:30
Unknown
I got the same call from the same person. However they had my Social Security # and other documents that I dont want them to have.  How could report this and make sure that I am same from getting scammed.
BABYBOO
BABYBOO
2009-07-24 23:36:06
Debt Collector
WHENEVER YOU GO ONLINE JUST BE CAREFUL THERE ARE ALOT OF EVIL PEOPLE.
BABYBOO
BABYBOO
2009-07-24 23:32:42
Unknown
THESE PEOPLE ARE CRAZY AND THEN SAYING TO ME ONLY GOD CAN HELP ME AND NOT TELLING ME WHO I OWE THE MONET TOO GIVE ME A BREAK WHAT A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kasey Kastenbaum
Kasey Kastenbaum
2009-07-17 01:00:14
Unknown
I got a call from  a Andy Hunt  tell us we own him $843.61. The time he said I borrowed the money I did have the bank that he had  the #951-6434358. I put my wife on the phone with this Andy Hunt and she realize the person answer the phone  and the guy Andy Hunt is the same person . My wife call him on it and then hung up . Now he will not answer the phone . But my think is how does this person get a bank in account of mine? People if you get this phone call just hung up  it is a joke or ask him for the address where you live or work, I bet he does not know plus he can not even tell you the company that is suing you.
Alfalfa
Alfalfa
2009-07-17 00:33:40
Debt Collector
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-520-0833:

It's a scam, and all their threats are false and illegal.  The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal consumers' money.

Here are a few news reports and government advisories warning consumers about this scam:

ABC News:  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1
West Virginia Attorney General:  http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
WTAE TV4, Pittsburgh:  http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
Florida Commissioner of Consumer Services:  http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."

Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Christian Nicholas & Associates, US Federal Bank, Sonic Bank, Hopkins Law Office, CashNet, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 )There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a *small* sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-336-553-3965
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-909-6789
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444

...and many, MANY more.

US National Bank Scammers Still Extorting Hapless Consumers

"US National Bank" is still at it, calling up people and threatening them with jail time unless they pay up for debts they never took out and USNB doesn't own.

http://consumerist.com/5086468/us-national-ba ... pless-consumers
RedBaron1972
RedBaron1972
2009-07-16 01:59:38
Debt Collector
Oh my goodness. There are a bunch of us out here with these calls from someone who is representing a Bogus Federal Legislation Of Unsecured Loans Assn. I just received one from 951-643-4358 today 07/15/2009 at 1800 hrs. CST. from a man named Andy Hunt. He also spoke with a very heavy Indian accent and was very hard to understand. They demanded $912.34 from me today or else I would need to be in court with my references and Atty on Mon. July 20,2009 to stand trial.  At which time my drivers license would be taken away from me and any money in my Bank would also be seized. And all other assets would be liquidated and froze. When I told them I could not afford an attorney to represent me they told me to wire them an additional $175 today and they would have an attorney there to represent me. WHAT A SCAM. The bank where the loan supposedly went to was through Account Now which is a prepaid Credit Card company. I opened my account there in Mar. of 2009 and the money was supposedly deposited into my ac count in Nov. 2008. I have filed a Police report with my local P.D. and will be contacting the credit bureaus in the morning to put my name on there Identity theft and Credit fraud lists. That way if these fools try to scam my credit for money they will be stopped. I also plan to contact the Federal Trade Commission and the Atty. General's Office here in Wisconsin as well.
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