I see your post about Chambers.  They seem related and supply "other companies" with product and then buy the contract.  Ginger Hill sold us some product and the made a mistake a over double charged us. We called and could not get a hold of the salesmen, phone disconnected, email disconnected, website down.   They then did not deliver the other portion of the food.  We paid the for what we received however chambers wants the money they forwarded this guy even though we told him the total amount was a mistake and we did not receive what we supposed to get.  The whole bunch of the are scam artists.

hi   do they now run under gingerhill fine foods?  please help

Hi!
Now I have a problem! We were lucky enough and we didn't lose a lot of money. Only first payment. I realized on time that there is some problem. However, we are facing another complication which means WHERE WE COULD CONTINUE SHOPPING like in The Grocery Group? From all those testimonies looks like N. Gaal operates under names of many different companies.
Who can suggest trusted name?
Thanks for help

NP is a scam to. Read the reviews

This company is a joke!!! I worked for them for a few years under shopco and canadian fine foods. There crooks I tell you!!! I had to take them to court myself for unpaid wages when they fired me without warning because I refused to be treated like trash. I watched these people belittle the very people who made consistant efforts to make the company successful and the day they started yelling at me I got back up in there face and that's when they fired me. Long story short I got my money and successfully reported them to the CRA for unpaid taxes which they took from us but never paid the government!! B*****DS!!! Stay far away!

How can anyone trust anything they read online from people that they do not know? This whole comments website looks pretty amateur like some high school project...

my sister recommended the service after she told me about the bbqs she did with the steaks from the grocery group  if you like bbqs, consider the delivery of groceries from the grocery group.

I dealt with  the grocery group for a large order. The meats are legendary. For the meats I am getting the service again.

Dealt with them for 1 year or so, meats are top notch but maybe the convenience is just as good.Will be ordering again.

I have been dealing with these guys for three or four years now.  I think some of you are mistaking these people for the Step father Norm whom they refuse to deal with now as he was the one embezzling money out of Shopco. I heard that straight from their former book keeper Ed Stravinkas. Anyway who cares? The Grocery Group is great! Don?t change a thing and thanks for the excellent service.

To all of you people slamming these food companies. I urge you to Google search John Bungaro...
You will then see what kind of people are making these comments.
Please take the time to search his name. JOHN BUNGARO

Still to get my money back. Anyone had any luck receiving there money back when they went through Ministry of Consumer Services?
Thanks!

Thanks for the phone number - too bad there isn't anyone there to answer it.  I have made dozens of calls over the past several months (during business hours) and all I get is a voice mail message.

Your company received an "F" rating by the Better Business Bureau for good reason.
Anyone thinking of doing business with Shopco Foods and is doing their homework by visiting this site, I have just one word of advice - RUN !

Your company owes me money - this is without question.  Your daughter Louise has been giving me the run-around for months and frankly I'm pissed-off at the total lack of consideration in this matter.  Just because you have been arounfd for 45 years, it doesn't mean that you will still be around in 2012.

Did you ever get the second half of your order?  I have been calling trying to make arrangements and am extremely frustrated!!

they called my number today and hung up. I called the number shown here and asked to be removed though i'm sure all i did was get my number sent to every arsewipe telemarketer in the country.

the caller is a K Patel, I have received a call from this person on  Dec 8, 2009 and it was a hang up, I called back and received a message center unavailable and no answer from the phone.  Through my searches this person lives at  154 Painted Post Dr. (Scarborough)Toronto, ON M1H 1T7

Simple! If you have high speed internet, sign up with Primus Home Phone (over half the cost of Bell) and you'll be able to block any number you want right from your computer. I've had Primus for over 2 years now and I'm super happy! I have a ton of numbers on my block list and my phone rarely rings anymore.

I get calls from this number and when I answer no one responds. Now I just keep calling them back over and over again just to piss them off. No one answers of course but hopefully it's at least annoying to them.

I have been receiving calls from them since I first moved into my house almost a year and a half ago.  Everytime I get a person I ask them to remove me from their calling list since their service doesn't apply to my household (they deliver bulk amounts of food to households with 3 or more people).  Today I got FIVE calls from them in one day!  ARG!!  Give it up people.  I will be calling their head office tomorrow to complain about harassment!

I guess they did not leave a message so they never called, but hey the number registered.

Hi Larry,
Please email me at foodscam@hotmail.com  Several people have come together
already, and we are taking action to get our money back from these scammers!
Hope to hear from you!

Hi Ellen,
Please join us against these scammers and get our money back.  Please email us at foodscam@hotmail.com
Looking forward to hearing from you!

Hi Richard,
Please email me at foodscam@hotmail.com  Several people have come together
already, and we are taking action to get our money back from these scammers!
Hope to hear from you!

Please see below some of the issues that I have with the meat:

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Above is an example BeefEaters/Shopco top of the line Rib and New York Strip steaks. Please notice the excessive amount of fat which is consistent with a lower quality of meat.  On my order I have checked off "larger steaks" about 12-14 oz. The salesman billed me for 34 lbs of the New York Strip however I received 15 lbs and they are back ordered 15lbs which is shorting me by 4 lbs (I was billed for).  Also, I ordered 30lbs of Rib Steaks and only received 15lbs with BeefEaters/Shopco's backordering another 15lbs.  

                                                                            ;                                                                                                                                                                      ;                                                                                                                                                                      ;                                                                                                                                                                      ;                                                                                                                                                                      ;                      

Please note also, the average weight per steak is no where close to 12 to 14oz.  This is a big issue for me.  Most of the steaks received are about 10oz  with  about 1/3 coming in at 7 oz.  My family has owned and operated grocery stores with their own fresh butcher/meat departments.  As a previous store owner and butcher I would classify theses cut comparable to a blade steak.  They are definite not premium quality cuts as was expressed by your salesperson.


 






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The roasts I ordered were suppose to serve 10- 14 people.  I called your customer service and spoke with Louise (two days before the order was received) and explained that I definitely needed a few large Prime Rib Roasts.  She confirmed that this request would be looked after.  The roasts received were extremely small.  I told the sales rep I wanted only quality roasts and I would rather have less roasts that were larger than have many small ones.



I also requested with the sales rep to ensure that the Turkeys that were sent were large enough to serve 14 to 25 people but the came in at 13lbs. Which is no where close to the size required to feed that many people.   With the sizes that were sent, they are of no use to me.  No I will have to spend more money as I will have to buy larger ones at Christmas and Thanksgiving.








I ordered 52lbs of Pork Back Ribs.  The invoice says that 23lbs were shipped but only 22 lbs were received.  The invoice also says that 23lbs were back ordered but that still leaves me short 7lbs of ribs that I was billed for.  In addition, the rack is not a full rack and has been cut to roughly the size of 1lbs of hamburger.




In addition, I ordered and was charged for 26 lbs of pork loin chops.  However, I received pork rib/butt chops.  I received 12 lbs, back ordered 12lbs, short 2lbs.



- I ordered 16lbs of Tilapis billed for 16lbs, received 5, back ordered 5, short 6lbs
- I ordered 13lbs of Sole, billed for 13lbs, received 5lbs, back ordered 5lbs, short 3lbs.


- I ordered 48lbs of Stewing Beef, billed for 48lbs, received 23lbs, back ordered 23lbs, short 2lbs.

I made an additional call to Louise two days before the order was received.  I was told that the Quaker Oatmeal flavour that I ordered was not available and they were going to send the variety pack.  I stated that I did not want the variety and pack and Louise agreed to send Sidekicks (Broccoli & Cheese flavour) instead.  The variety pack was sent anyway (no sidekicks received).

Finally, I ordered 24 bottle of White Vinegar, was charged for 24 bottles but only received 8 with no indication of a back order

Please see below some of the issues that I have with the meat:every one should go to the better business bureau You are rated F and You and Louise lie and rip people off. I have wittness that you got the entire order back and a signed ivoice from your driver.

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Excessive amount of fat which is consistent with a lower quality of meat.  On my order I have checked off "larger steaks" about 12-14 oz. The salesman billed me for 34 lbs of the New York Strip however I received 15 lbs and they are back ordered 15lbs which is shorting me by 4 lbs (I was billed for).  Also, I ordered 30lbs of Rib Steaks and only received 15lbs with BeefEaters/Shopco's backordering another 15lbs.  





                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     ;                                                                                                                                                                      ;                                                                                                                                                                      ;                                                                                                                                                                      ;                                                                                                                                                                      ;                      

Please note also, the average weight per steak is no where close to 12 to 14oz.  This is a big issue for me.  Most of the steaks received are about 10oz  with  about 1/3 coming in at 7 oz.  My family has owned and operated grocery stores with their own fresh butcher/meat departments.  As a previous store owner and butcher I would classify theses cut comparable to a blade steak.  They are definite not premium quality cuts as was expressed by your salesperson.


 





The roasts I ordered were suppose to serve 10- 14 people.  I called your customer service and spoke with Louise (two days before the order was received) and explained that I definitely needed a few large Prime Rib Roasts. Also told her did not want RTS cereals if they are not the flavour I ordered She confirmed that this request would be looked after.  The roasts received were extremely small.  I told the sales rep I wanted only quality roasts and I would rather have less roasts that were larger than have many small ones.



I also requested with the sales rep to ensure that the Turkeys that were sent were large enough to serve 14 to 25 people but the came in at 13lbs. Which is no where close to the size required to feed that many people.   With the sizes that were sent, they are of no use to me.  No I will have to spend more money as I will have to buy larger ones at Christmas and Thanksgiving.


I ordered 52lbs of Pork Back Ribs.  The invoice says that 23lbs were shipped but only 22 lbs were received.  The invoice also says that 23lbs were back ordered but that still leaves me short 7lbs of ribs that I was billed for.  In addition, the rack is not a full rack and has been cut to roughly the size of 1lbs of hamburger.

In addition, I ordered and was charged for 26 lbs of pork loin chops.  However, I received pork rib/butt chops.  I received 12 lbs, back ordered 12lbs, short 2lbs.
- I ordered 16lbs of Tilapis billed for 16lbs, received 5, back ordered 5, short 6lbs
- I ordered 13lbs of Sole, billed for 13lbs, received 5lbs, back ordered 5lbs, short 3lbs.


- I ordered 48lbs of Stewing Beef, billed for 48lbs, received 23lbs, back ordered 23lbs, short 2lbs.

I made an additional call to Louise two days before the order was received.  I was told that the Quaker Oatmeal flavour that I ordered was not available and they were going to send the variety pack.  I stated that I did not want the variety and pack and Louise agreed to send Sidekicks (Broccoli & Cheese flavour) instead.  The variety pack was sent anyway (no sidekicks received).

Finally, I ordered 24 bottle of White Vinegar, was charged for 24 bottles but only received 8 with no indication of a back order

Now you won't refund a downpayment because I am supposed to have kept the cereal I didn't want. Who's the thief here? NOT ME

Shopcofoods AKA Beefeater foods sent John Melnick to my home, we placed an order and canceled with in 10 days in writting. Shopco still cashed my cheques. I called the office and someone told me John Melnick was the one who cashed my cheques.

Hi Williams,
Please contact us at foodscam@hotmail.com
I think we can help you

William:
Please contact the foodscam email listed here.  Ron Atkinson Gaal and Andrew Gaal have been using Shopco order forms and informing people that they are part of the Shopco family when in fact they are not.  Shopco was the victim of a multi million dollar scam by Ron and Andrew (who are the stepsons of Norman Gaal).  Norman wants to see all orders that are supposedly from Shopco and attempt to make things right for the customers.  Ron and Andrew cleaned out the warehouse, took the paperwork for about 1500 customers , checks and cash.  The first thing to determine is who you really did order from and who actually cashed the checks.  If it turns out that it was indeed Shopco and not Ron and Andrew pretending to be Shopco, then Norman will make it right.  First we will need to see your paperwork and copies of cancelled checks to determine who exactly ripped you off.

As it has been repeatedly proven in court Norm Gaal is an adulterer and a liar and tries to blame his failures and illegal acts on his former family. Perhaps Norm should concentrate on running a company so he can pay all his debts and stop bouncing pay cheques to hard working people. It is very sad that this old man has nothing but lies and gossip to fill his days. With the warm weather approaching, he'll be able to spend more time on his yachts in Orillia driving up there in his Rolls Royce, convertible Thunder Bird or his classic 1955 Buick. Oh to be so hard done by....

I did my business with Beefeater/Shopco, John Melnick was my sales person. I have called and spoke to Kim and Louise Gaal and they blame it on John Melnick and later the promised to pay. I have put a stop payment on all my cheques.