473-520-9751
Grenada, GRENADA
 | ANonieMouse 2014-01-22 18:25:43 Unknown |
Don't say that we didn't try to warn you right here in this thread.
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-473-520-9751/2#p658326372174702296
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-473-520-9751/2#p658326372174702296
| Jennie Schwartz 2014-01-22 18:12:11 Unknown |
I got numerous calls from this number so I called it back and it just kept saying please wait for an operator. Noone ever came. Now I am being charged from my cell phone company cause evidently it was an international call. SCAM!!!!!!!
| Nimrod 2014-01-06 02:33:05 Unknown |
Well said "anonymous"!
From the various threads I have sampled so far they seem to have been working a bank of numbers in the 473-520-97## range since November.
Check out the post by ANonieMouse at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-473-520-9754/3#p658883862900089215 for a plethora of information about this scam.
From the various threads I have sampled so far they seem to have been working a bank of numbers in the 473-520-97## range since November.
Check out the post by ANonieMouse at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-473-520-9754/3#p658883862900089215 for a plethora of information about this scam.
| Barbara kuvshinoff 2014-01-02 16:16:47 Prank Call |
This appears to be a scam.
| Rebecca 2014-01-02 15:40:39 Unknown |
Has happened twice. Driving me crazy because the calls wake me up.
| Not funny 2014-01-02 05:50:43 Unknown |
One ring then hung up, Grenada is what my phone said, so instead if calling I googled first to see and stumbled across this. Thankfully for the posts will not be calling the number back. It appears that is is a scam. These people need to get a life and find a way to make money legitimately instead of stealing money from hard working people.
| Rich 2014-01-02 01:51:30 Unknown |
Did we invade Grenade in 1983, perhaps we should do it again.
| Louise 2014-01-02 00:41:09 Unknown |
Received a call about five minutes ago rang once and then hung up. Strange.
| ANonieMouse 2014-01-01 20:23:32 Unknown |
>>> When I called back it said I am blocked from making phone calls to this number. Does this mean I got lucky and won't be charged? Oh God I hope so <<<
You should call your phone company just to be sure, but I think you might be one of the lucky ones.
You should call your phone company just to be sure, but I think you might be one of the lucky ones.
| Patty 2014-01-01 20:12:10 Unknown |
I did not know this was a scam, let alone a number out of the US. I feel so dumb calling back.. 3 times! I read on a post that some carriers will block you from calling. When I called back it said I am blocked from making phone calls to this number. Does this mean I got lucky and won't be charged? Oh God I hope so. Last time I
call back a phone number unless it's my area code
call back a phone number unless it's my area code
| Sheff 2014-01-01 17:14:17 Unknown |
This morning (Jan 1, 2014) got a missed call from (473) 520-9751, listed as a number in Grenada. Didn't answer it. Evidently, it's a scam from the Caribbean wanting you to call back and then your provider charges you out the wazoo for calling an international number. They try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to rack up the minutes. I've heard international calling rates run the range of $25-$2400 per minute.
So . . dumb question here, but if we're being charged for the minutes, what do the receivers get from the call except confirming that they have a working cell phone number, AFTER they pay for the initial call to the cell phone and leaving a message at their international calling rates???? Could be an IQ test for them . . . lol
So . . dumb question here, but if we're being charged for the minutes, what do the receivers get from the call except confirming that they have a working cell phone number, AFTER they pay for the initial call to the cell phone and leaving a message at their international calling rates???? Could be an IQ test for them . . . lol
| K.L. 2014-01-01 15:15:12 Prank Call |
Who the hell calls in the middle of the night. Idiot.
| ANonieMouse 2014-01-01 11:29:05 Unknown |
473 "AREA CODE" WARNING -- DO NOT RETURN DIAL ONE RING CALLS RECEIVED FROM AREA CODE 473 !!!!!!
In the current variant of this scam, the caller doesn't have any intention of talking to you. All the scammer wants is for you to get upset enough about the late night call that you return the call, never even noticing that it is from a foreign country outside the reach of US or Canadian laws. When you return the call (at international rates), there may also be a big surcharge added to your phone bill that gets passed along to the scammer.
What appears to have been the original version of the scam surfaced about 11 years ago in Japan and is known as the "Wangiri scam:"
From Japan Times
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2002/08/21/n ... r/#.Ur2543-9KSN
From the Economist
http://www.economist.com/node/1367988
A few U.S. news organizations, but not many, have picked up on this latest variant:
KPVI, Pocatello, ID TV report on Grenada phone scam
http://youtu.be/eSp9tY1gBW8
From Toledo News Now
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/23695832/b ... huge-phone-bill
I don't think this problem is limited to or has anything to do with Verizon. The same problem has been reported on other carriers, I believe, but Verizon Wireless appears to be the biggest carrier, so they get the most calls. Verizon has a discussion board set up with at least one thread concerning "473" calls:
https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/1035009
It appears that at least Verizon is devoting some resources to stop these callers or at least refund some or all of the charges for people who call these numbers. How long that will last is known only to Verizon, and even they may not have decided at this point. Other carriers may also be doing the same. They all want to avoid bad publicity that may drive away customers, of course.
At least one early report on 800notes.com, if taken at face value, asserted that a charge of $100.00 was made to a phone bill for calling back for 15 seconds. Even regular calls to 473 numbers are billed at upwards of $1.80 per minute by most cell phone carriers, even on so-called "unlimited" phone plans, unless you have paid extra for an international dialing plan. It may be that the scammers get a cut of this money for every international call they receive.
That's why either:
(1) you can't return the phone call, because even though you would otherwise be able to dial it like an ordinary long distance number, you phone company has a restriction on your placing international calls (which these are). At least some pre-paid cell phone services work this way. If this case applies to you, consider yourself lucky. Or,
(2) when you call back and get through, the operator of the 473 phone number tries to keep you on hold for as long as possible to run up your phone bill and their profits.
The scammers don't have to be associated with recent security breaches, such as the recent one at Target stores. (In fact, many of the victims of this scam say that they either don't shop at Target or did not shop there during the period of the known security breach.) All the scammers have to do is randomly dial a lot of telephone numbers in already-assigned area codes. And they must be dialing a LOT of them based on the complaints logged to 800notes.
It probably doesn't cost them anything to dial you, either, if the called party (you) doesn't pick up the call before they hang up. It only takes a small percentage of angry and/or curious people calling back for them to make a lot of money. They don't even have to pay for real people to operate a call center -- it's all done by machines, outside the reach of US and Canadian law enforcement.
So do yourself a favor and don't call these scammers back. And you'll also be doing us all a favor, because they wouldn't call anyone at all if there weren't so many people who fell for this scam.
In the current variant of this scam, the caller doesn't have any intention of talking to you. All the scammer wants is for you to get upset enough about the late night call that you return the call, never even noticing that it is from a foreign country outside the reach of US or Canadian laws. When you return the call (at international rates), there may also be a big surcharge added to your phone bill that gets passed along to the scammer.
What appears to have been the original version of the scam surfaced about 11 years ago in Japan and is known as the "Wangiri scam:"
From Japan Times
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2002/08/21/n ... r/#.Ur2543-9KSN
From the Economist
http://www.economist.com/node/1367988
A few U.S. news organizations, but not many, have picked up on this latest variant:
KPVI, Pocatello, ID TV report on Grenada phone scam
http://youtu.be/eSp9tY1gBW8
From Toledo News Now
http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/23695832/b ... huge-phone-bill
I don't think this problem is limited to or has anything to do with Verizon. The same problem has been reported on other carriers, I believe, but Verizon Wireless appears to be the biggest carrier, so they get the most calls. Verizon has a discussion board set up with at least one thread concerning "473" calls:
https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/1035009
It appears that at least Verizon is devoting some resources to stop these callers or at least refund some or all of the charges for people who call these numbers. How long that will last is known only to Verizon, and even they may not have decided at this point. Other carriers may also be doing the same. They all want to avoid bad publicity that may drive away customers, of course.
At least one early report on 800notes.com, if taken at face value, asserted that a charge of $100.00 was made to a phone bill for calling back for 15 seconds. Even regular calls to 473 numbers are billed at upwards of $1.80 per minute by most cell phone carriers, even on so-called "unlimited" phone plans, unless you have paid extra for an international dialing plan. It may be that the scammers get a cut of this money for every international call they receive.
That's why either:
(1) you can't return the phone call, because even though you would otherwise be able to dial it like an ordinary long distance number, you phone company has a restriction on your placing international calls (which these are). At least some pre-paid cell phone services work this way. If this case applies to you, consider yourself lucky. Or,
(2) when you call back and get through, the operator of the 473 phone number tries to keep you on hold for as long as possible to run up your phone bill and their profits.
The scammers don't have to be associated with recent security breaches, such as the recent one at Target stores. (In fact, many of the victims of this scam say that they either don't shop at Target or did not shop there during the period of the known security breach.) All the scammers have to do is randomly dial a lot of telephone numbers in already-assigned area codes. And they must be dialing a LOT of them based on the complaints logged to 800notes.
It probably doesn't cost them anything to dial you, either, if the called party (you) doesn't pick up the call before they hang up. It only takes a small percentage of angry and/or curious people calling back for them to make a lot of money. They don't even have to pay for real people to operate a call center -- it's all done by machines, outside the reach of US and Canadian law enforcement.
So do yourself a favor and don't call these scammers back. And you'll also be doing us all a favor, because they wouldn't call anyone at all if there weren't so many people who fell for this scam.
| Kim 2014-01-01 10:23:11 Prank Call |
Same here... One missed call at 2:58am from this number. I didn't call the number back...
| Mr. Brown 2013-12-31 00:32:32 Unknown |
same here, got a call around 4:30 am on the 30th. thank you all for the info, I was going to call back, but now ill help spread the word so others are aware of this scam
| N 2013-12-30 18:10:20 Unknown |
Called me too on the 30th. One ring then it hang up, glad I researched the number before calling it back!
| kathy 2013-12-30 18:04:19 Unknown |
I got a call from this # on christmas day.
| vraines 2013-12-30 17:31:58 Unknown |
Got a missed call from this number. The number was accidently dialed while phone in my purse. 14 minutes before i realized it hope do not get a charge. I will have to fight it.
| Tyler 2013-12-30 17:14:50 Unknown |
This number called me in the dead of the night.
| Shiver9876 2013-12-29 16:16:43 Unknown |
I so agree with everyone it happens to me too at 4 this morning
| Olga 2013-12-29 04:31:15 Unknown |
Don't know anyone from this number
| kathy 2013-12-28 13:33:59 Unknown |
yes, i received two calls so far in the middle of the night.
| Mish 2013-12-28 11:46:10 Unknown |
Called at midnight. Unacceptable!!! Will be reporting this to my local authorities!
| Mary 2013-12-28 01:11:55 Unknown |
Caled and hung up--I did not answer, but area code is Grenada--I do not know anyone there, so did not answer.
| mr. evans 2013-12-27 21:58:26 Prank Call |
remove me off ur list 4 life plz this is the 10th time u losers calls me enough dont call me nomore or ill calls the cops to file a complaint n desurbing my peace so i dont own u guys money so plz leave my life n my number alone got it bi****s
| Grrrr 2013-12-27 16:42:05 Unknown |
One ring only, at11:37 eastern time, on my cell phone...
| anonymous 2013-12-27 16:32:39 Unknown |
This is a correct statement. Do not call this # back. This is called Wangiri, google it for information.
| Charlie 2013-12-27 12:52:07 Unknown |
One ring at 2:01 in the morning don't call back!
| Wawawa 2013-12-27 03:12:24 Unknown |
Missed this call today. Called 12:05 and didn't leave a message. I hate callers like this!
| kcs 2013-12-27 01:52:54 Unknown |
just got a call from this number a few minutes ago, 1 ring only, caller was "granada'. I'm from Florida and do not know anyone from this area code so I did nothing.
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