yes I have got a call from him in January and I got a call from Sarah Waters as well. Sarah say she from E capital and with the 585 730 6403 and Steven Matthews from 585 698 1835. I am waiting for some papers in the next 24 hrs from dane county I will see if they came. from the telemarketers LOL!! Wow Ppl really get paid to scam ppl
Well you are not very good at lying, nor are you very good at spelling. Now go crawl back under your rock in the boiler room you maggot
MARLINA CLARK, ST LOUIS
OK ME TOO GOT A CALL FROM THIS SARAH WATERS AND UNLIKE EVERYONE ELSE SHE WAS RATHER NICE TO ME , SHE CALLED ME ABOUT A PDL I HAD IN 2009 WITH ALL MY BANK STUFF MY CORRECT ADDRESS, CELL PHN, AND PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT THE ONLY ODD THING IS SHE NEVER ASKED ME FOR A DIME SHE INSISTED THAT I GIVE HER STATEMENT BUT SHE DID GET ME SOMETHING IN WRITING TO MY HME AND MY EMAIL YES SHE GAVE A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT LIKE $1500.00 BUT AT THE END HELL I GOT 1 PAYMENT OF $278. AND THEY GAVE ME A RECEIPT SO IM GUD.
Many, many thanks for the information. Knowledge is the only weapon we have to protect ourselves and our assets from the scum who would take through deceit and subterfuge what we earn through the fruits of our labor. Keep fighting the good fight!
My wife has been receiving harassing phone calls from an outfit claiming to be Check Systems (585-698-1878) regarding a loan from loans.com she supposedly took out in 2011. They scared her by providing her SSN, bank account number, and some employment history. They claimed the funds were deposited into an account she owned. They were abusive, threatening, and persistent, claiming that they were filing charges and taking legal action against us unless we paid. Unfortunately,the account they claimed the funds were transferred into was CLOSED at the time they said the transfer occurred. We checked all of our bank records to verify and there was absolutely NO record of such a transfer. They replied with, "oh sorry, our mistake...the funds were transferred in 2010." So, we performed our due diligence and again verified there were no deposits in 2010 that matched either the description or the amount they are accusing her of taking. They refuse to give any information about the original creditor and would not give us any contact information for their business beyond a telephone number. I want to thank Gunnar and company for providing the excellent resources and information exposing these pieces of human garbage. We work hard for our money and we pay our debts like the rest of you. DO NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY THESE LOWLIFE SCAMMERS!! Educate yourself of your consumer rights at www.ftc.gov and www.bbb.org.
The following is posted for informational purposes
The BBB information on this outfit
http://www.bbb.org/buffalo/business-reviews/c ... o-ny-235961048/
229 W. Genesee St. #1071, Buffalo, NY 14201
Phone: (855) 412-3826
Fax: (716) 299-2808
The have an "F" from the BBB.
Factors that lowered the rating for Check Systems include:
72 complaints filed against business
Failure to respond to 35 complaints filed against business
25 serious complaints filed against business
Government action(s) against business
Whois information for their website
Interchex Systems, LLC
268 Main Street
buffalo, NY 14202
Domain Name: CHECK-SYSTEMS.COM
Registrar: TIERRANET INC. D/B/A DOMAINDISCOVER
American Mutul Holdings Inc.
268 Main Street
buffalo, NY 14202
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Interchex Systems, LLC
268 Main Street
buffalo, NY 14202
First if someone was going to deliver papers why do they need to warn you first. If they know where to come then they don't need to call and threaten you.
Car info names cell numbers are easy to find online they use those tactics to scare u into providing them with more information
Just because you are too stupid to drop the cap lock----- BULLKRAP to you.
So, whose number is that?
Well if it isn't "Anne of Green Garbage". Not the book, as in 'Gables', but one of "The Garbage pail kids", popular gum cards of the 80's. Notice how these 'shill-its' (rhymes with sh*ts) never mention that foreign criminals are calling Americans & trying to extort money on fake loans. Oh? The writer IS a shill? Well as the kids today say "My bad".
You owe me 5,000 for reading that male cow bowel matter, pay up deadbeat! Send the money to the FTC and make sure it say's fine to pay for shilling in the notes..
Hey "Ann" ! Why don't you tell the people that come here looking up your number to Google 'Check Systems NY" ? When they do they will enjoy hours of reading about your fraud-shop & its owners. Past & present! Then you might want to encourage them to do a court records search in NY using the key words 'Check Systems'. The entertainment will never end !
You're a fraud working with, and for, a bunch of other frauds.
Skeff Ett Liv!
Hey Shill, can you read? Who is this thread indicated they owed a bill? How can you prove "YOU KNOW YOU TOOK OUT THE LOAN"?
PAY YOUR BILLS, YOU REALIZE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT A COMPANY CALLING THEM IS BECAUSE THEY DON't PAY THEIR BILLS, YOU KNOW YOU TOOK OUT THE LOAN, STOP BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE AND BE A MAN or A WOMEN AND PAY IT, AS LONG AS YOU GET A RECEIPT LETTER FROM WHATEVER COMPANY IS CALLING YOU THEN NO OTHER COMPANY CAN SAY YOU OWE THAT BILL.
They called my number looking for my brother. I am sure this is a scam. it was from Sarah Waters. and from the best I can find out, they do this a lot. on another site there are 300 people they called and tried to collect money from. is there anything we can do? I mean sure posting it on the internet is one thing but shutting down the company is another. How would we go about doing this or exposing them as the frauds they are?
Just got a call from Rocko Deluka with check systems saying I was going to be sued and my assets frozen on Saturday if I didn't pay up by tomorrow. Never heard of them and the incident it was from 10 plus years ago.and had been taken care of.when I told them I wanted a statement send to me he got all snotty with me! What a jerk
They can harvest personal information from the Internet, which is why they have your phone number. Always be very leery of anyone wanting you to "settle" immediately, over the phone. Please read Gunnar's informative posts from earlier in this thread - per the FDCPA, you should not pay any caller who refuses to MAIL a debt validation letter to you showing you owe a debt and they have the right to collect said debt. In fact, your caller only has five days from the date of their first call to mail this documentation to you. Refusal or failure to mail this is a violation of the FDCPA and again, you should not pay them a dime.
Please do report your callers to the FTC, FCC and your state's Attorney General.
Just received a call from Sarah Waters staying that she was with chex systems. Then she made a settlement with me to pay $335. instead of the original amount of $1622.00. I was then transferred to Michelle with American Mutual Holdings some outside payment process system. Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this scammers....it's nerve wrecking to keep getting these calls. Can our Government not stop these people from calling us. Plus I don't know how they got my phone number because I've changed it several times.
Thre was a phone call today from number 585-730-6403 saying we owe all this money and if we don't pay they will be taking us to court for fraud. Did anyone else get this call from number? trying to see if it is a scam.
According to the Chex Systems website, RELAX They don't make phone calls to the consumer
No worries! I've dealt with far better scammers than Check Systems. Always as a Plaintiff, never as a Defendant. Check Systems came on to our radar a couple of years ago. Even back then we determined that they weren't worth pursuit. They are composed of nothing, they have nothing & nothing is all they'll ever be.
From its conception Check Systems was a sham. Notice the play on words they use as their name. The real Chex Systems is aware of these frauds. And the last I heard, they were none too happy about it! That's one of the reasons I'm surprised they're still poking their noses out of their sewer. My guess is that they think they're hiding really well.
It's up to you if you answer their calls. Once they are aware that you know your rights under the FDCPA they'll probably give up. The fraud shops hate an educated target. They know they're wasting their time. You will certainly not ever be obligated to return their calls. As a matter of fact, under federal regulations, they had 5 business days to supply you with a notice of validation after initial contact with you. By mail. Needless to say, you haven't received that. And you never will. These clowns don't deal in legitimate debt. They can't afford to, and wouldn't be able to comply with the necessary stipulations if they wanted to.
Outfits like theirs are getting more desperate by the day. The bottom has dropped out of the "PDL Scam" and the Indians are gobbling up the remaining few gullible targets faster than the domestic fraud shops can get to them. Serves the morons in western NY right. The Indians learned their trade from the "Buffalo Boys". Some of the early Indian call centers were coached & financed by the fools! Ain't outsourcing grand?
Do me a favor though. If you talk to them again, tell them that Gunnar at 800notes says Hi! If the twit has a mouth full of coffee you'll hear it erupt from his, or hers, nose! I wonder if the frauds love me as much as I love them?
Thank you for you for you input. I have requested several times to request something in writing and they have no complied. They claimed they mailed something and it keeps coming back. This is not the case. I have moved once and had a forwarding address when I moved. They have even threatened to serve papers. I am smart enough to know that any legitimate court issue you would be notified in writing. So I guess that there lact of compliance to mailing me in writing confirms fraud. Furthermore they stated that they could fax it to me or email it. I declined. Thank you for your input. So I can not worry even if the calls come in and are not obligated to return those calls???
Yes I have received this threat as well. The caller ID came from my local paper in my town. Threatened me with papers too. Never received any and never received anything in the mail. Today I received a call from Sara Waters and said she was rfom arbritration and is required to notify me when action is being taken against me. This has been going on for a few months, but never have been sent anything ever in the mail. I do not believe I have to worry if I was going to be going to court, you would be notified by mail. Still it is frustrating to deal with and I kow how you feel. Dont give into them. When I told them I never received anything they stated my old address but was not too concerned about getting a correct one. I did not offer either. I figured if they can find my cell # when I never gave it to them they can find my address. If you are going to be going to court by them you will receive something in the mail, not just threats on the phone...hope this helps..
Check Systems is very well known here. They are lowly frauds in the purest "Buffalo Boys" tradition. They are bottom feeders dependent on bargain bin information. That's the only kind they can afford. I'm surprised they're still showing signs of life. They're under scrutiny from several directions. The only reason that they'd still be operating is due to the protection afforded them by the huge fraudulent collection lobby in western NY state. Entire local economies there are reliant on debt collection firms. Some legitimate, most fraudulent. The locals see it as a good alternative to letting the scumbags walk the streets.
Put your mind at ease. If you talk to them again, DEMAND a complete, legitimate notice of validation be sent to you by mail. NOT e-mail or Fax! As per federal regulations under the FDCPA. I can guarantee that as soon as you do, they will become highly agitated. When they refuse to comply, or start babbling, they've confirmed what I've just told you. They are FRAUDS!
Just wanted to know how you all know they are a scam? They have been harassing me as well. I too got a call from Sara Waters stating she was from Arbritration and they are required to advise me of action being taken against me. If you have done your homework and know for sure they are a scam can you please reply and put my mind at ease. I would appreciate it so much. I am at my wits end..I am tired of the threats and I too have never received paers that they claimed were going to be delivered or any mail whatsoever from them..Please help put me at ease and confirm the scam that they are pulling.. Thank you..
I have been getting a call from Steven Matthews at this # saying he was from Check Systems and I have been ignoring him.... today I got a call from a local #, when I answered it, it was a man (would not give me his name) saying he was with a firm in my local town on main street and he was sending a person to my house to serve me papers and I needed to pieces of id... I advised I was not home, but if there was paper to be served I would come to his office and pick them up he told me I would have to call 585-730-6403 and speak to them... he would not tell me the name of the company he was with, put when I tried to call the local # back I got a fax machine, so I googled the local # and it was the fax # to our local magistrate office... I really don't believe anyone from the magistrate's office was trying to contact me - I believe they would have identified themselfs, and would have allowed me to come to the office to pick up any papers, I called Steven Matthews he told me if I promised to make a payment Friday he would stop the delivery person from serving me papers????? has this happend to anyone else???
It's a scam. Next time they call just hang up. Don't waste your breathe with them. If you have the ability to block the number, do so.
Not true. These scam companies data mine this information which is available all over the internet.
they would not have that info unless they know you