call was mid afternoon. calls himself steve martin or mark brown or steve matthews or whatever... tell me im going to jail for a payday loan I took in aug of 2009. I cant get a payday loan I dont have direct deposit(employer is still in the stone age). Anyway these guys are scammers please dont give them money. The best thing to do is to call their bluff yell at them eventually they will stop calling, but be aware that its not the end of it. Every couple months they will call back and start over again like they never spoke to you before. Be prepared for the next call.

They left a message on my phone telling me I was going to have a lawsuit filed against me.  I called back.  The name left on my voicemail was Kevin Leon and when he came on the line the same guy said Kevin Johnson.  I yelled at him and told him this was not a legitimate lawsuit and I would fight them.  He called back 4 hours later and proceeded to tell me the same thing.  I asked him if he remembered talking to me earlier this morning and he pretended he didn't.  I said "I called you back on the number you left me" and he asked me to call him back on it again and I said no.  He hung up

These stupid idiots keep calling me, now it is funny, I just play along with their lies, I keep them waiting on the phone and say, hold on, I'm going to brush my teeth, when I come back to the phone, I let them talk some more of their bullchit, then I say Hang on, I have to sing my baby a lullabye, they get agitated and hang up.

Don't be scared of them, I've already checked with the Attorney Generals office and the FBI, they are scammers and they cannot do anything to you.  They use threats like you will be arrested or sued if you don't settle up with them asap...They are liers.


They even told me there was a lawsuit being filed against me in my county and I had to go to court the next day, I immediately called the county clerks office and they told me that these people were liers. Of course I knew that. There is no way anyone could be sueing me for anything so I just play along with them for entertainment.  They are stupid and ignorant. They have several different names and numbers, same accent, sometimes when I talk to them, they forget their own names.

They are lowlifes and God will punish them for their wickedness.

I'm sick of these idiots. When I think they are gone, they pop up again. I'll never send them one dime but they are so stupid, they wait a few months and then call you back, what IDIOTS, I hope they die. No wonder there is so much unrest in these overseas countries, they are idiotic people, well some of them. They need to get real jobs, grow farms and work instead of cowarding behind technology trying to scam real hard working people.

These heathens no doubt, stole my information, I'm thinking from a credit card application I filled out over the internet.  I never got a credit card but they are trying to say they deposited $500 in my checking account, which never happened, so I'm not really worried about proving my case but I'm worried they have my information.

What a bunch of idiots, I hope a hurricane comes through and wipes them off the face of the earth, they deserve nothing better.  They are terrorizing Americans that work for a living, and conning the stupid people.

I'll never fall for their scam but some people don't know any better.

CALL ME  OVER  THE  WEEKEND  AND   SAID  THRE  WAS   ACLAIN  AGAINST  MY  SS  NO, NAME   WAS  JOHN  MARKLE,  AND  IF  I  DO  NOT  RETURN HIS  CALL  THERE  WILL  BE   A POLICEMAN   AT  MY  DOOR  VERY  BROKEN  ENGLISH,  COULD  NOT  UNDER STAND  A  WORD  HE  SAID  WHILE  HE   WAS  ON  THE  PHONE  I CHECK  THIS  NO  AND  TOLD  HIM  AND  THAT  I  COULD  NOT  UNDERSTAND  HIM  HE  HUNG  UP.  WHAT  SHOULD  I  DO?

This is some fake crap. The number is not listed anywhere, I did a reverse search and the number is to someones apt in Brooklyn. This is fraud and I have passed it on to a friend of mine that is an investigator and I hope these scum bags are caught and strung up by their balls!!!!

If you call the number back you get some oriental lady saying  "enter your card number followed by the pound key". No matter what keys you punch you can NEVER get connected to a real person.

Thick Indian accent advising that I owe money to a payday loan-Advance Cash. I have taken payday loans in the past but to my knowledge - all paid back. These gentleman - Mark Brown and Paul Bishop, have been calling my work and my cell constantly. Our receptionist counted 9 back to back calls today. They left a voice message advising that the police would be here tommorrow to serve papers on me and my co-worker. I asked for something in writing from them and they advise that my file had been sent back to the company and that they could not give anything to me. I asked for the phone numbeer of the company - Advance Cash and was given the same #718-673-5125. They have also called me from 212-372-7274. I am going to wait this out and just see if the law comes. Thanks to the comments on line, I may actually would have fallen for this.

I got the same call from them about pay day loans. What I don't get is that they called my friend asking for me. How did they get his number and how did they know to ask for me? It happened to my wife at the same time of day. They called her friend asking for her.

These fools started calling (completely out of the blue) about 2-weeks ago, asking for a name I have never heard of.

I tried to explain they had the wrong number but they kept calling anyway so I finally said I was the guy they were asking for and what do they want?

These freaking foreigners started telling me a bunch of BS about a "sibling" (then a friend in other calls) of mine that was in desperate trouble and that "they" were going to help out.

These fools have goofy foreign accents, can barely speak American English and would never be hired by any type of law firm or even collection agency anywhere in this country.  Even if they were (hired) they certainly wouldn't be the ones making these types of calls.

Since they were calling me from Manhattan (hence the 212 area code), I asked them what street they were on. (they said they couldn't tell me), So I asked them to name 5 major streets in the city (I mean even a tourist could do that), NOPE, couldn't do that either!  WHY? Because these jerks are nowhere near Manhattan, up-state, California or anywhere else in this country.  Don't fall for any of this

Remember, I REALLY AM THE WRONG NUMBER but I played along.  They wanted me to "help" my unidentified friend by sending money. They asked for my credit card information, banking info, social security number, pin numbers, addresses, phone numbers, all kinds of things while all the while trying to appease my sense of loyalty and responsibility for getting my friend (still unidentified) out of trouble (also unidentified).

When I would ask for my "friends" name, the a-hole would always tell me he would have to look it up and get back to me.  The same is true with the type of trouble "he" was in.

I gave them everything they wanted!  Made it all up!  Just to see what would happen, I balked at giving them a made-up pin number so they started "intimidating" me by threatening me with imminent arrest!

Told me, they would file a charges against me for falsifying information, continued with abusive attacks and more threatening "legal action" if I would not start cooperating! Oh yeah, and they were sending the police to arrest me if I didn't follow their instructions to the letter!

Told them I was VERY SCARED of all this and that they should send someone to pick up some money immediately to "make this all go away".  

I work in an extremely rough area of the Bronx and told them to meet me there -- my friends and I were going to open the most extreme can o' whoop as* that you could ever imagine.

For you foreign f#cks who are reading this entry, google whoop as* and see what would have awaited you!

Sorry to say, no one ever showed.  We had bats, chains and a whole host of other un-pleasantries awaiting our friends arrival.  They would have wished the cops would have shown up if only to scrape the pieces up and get them the hell out of there!

For any potential victims who may be reading this.  DON'T BE AFRAID!

None of their threats or intimidation are real.  They can neither hurt you or have you arrested or sued. They can't do anything to you or your family.  They are silly, barely literate foreign bottom-feeders who would be banned from entering this country if they even tried.  Do not fear them.

If you don't wish to engage them, never return their calls no matter what they say, or at worst, change your phone number.  They will never be able to touch you, I PROMISE.

The phone numbers showing up on your caller id are FAKE, they are not in NY or CA or anywhere else in the U.S.  Don't let them get to you!

Tell them to shut the F up and go away.

The thing that seems to have finally made them go away, is an AIR HORN blast EVERY TIME they have called.  No, hello, no what do you want.  JUST AN IMMEDIATE AIR HORN BLAST!!!!

Numbers they have called me on:

212-372-7274
810-675-751* (the last digit seems to be missing for some reason ;-)
ID Restricted (what are you afraid of a-holes)


see:  http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/2123727274#pyupEeuNpGgBIOAjMPx9btA

Just received a call from 718-673-6125 - said he was calling from an attorneys office called SES and that I had an outstanding payday loan that they were going to collect - I did not tell him who I was but when he asked for me by name I asked who was calling and that is when he said he was from an attorneys office - and to give me a message - could hardly understand him and he was foreign - I yelled at him and told him to drop dead and he hung up

its a long running and known scam

Fake Debt Collectors ? Terrorizing Consumers

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1


MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html


http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
Attorney General Darrell McGraw took the extraordinary step today of warning the public about a band of scam artists making threats to consumers who allegedly obtained Internet payday loans in West Virginia and across the nation. The consumers they threaten never obtained a loan at all or paid it off years ago.

Internet payday loans are short-term loans or cash advances, usually for 14 days, made over the Internet via interactive web sites and secured by an agreement authorizing debits of the loan and all fees owed from the consumer?s checking account. These loans typically charge interest rates ranging from 600-800 APR and are unlawful in West Virginia.

The scam artists, who speak English with a foreign accent, call themselves ?U.S. National Bank,? ?Federal Investigation Bureau,? ?United Legal Processing? and numerous other phony names. They refuse to disclose real names and addresses and are believed to be operating ?off the grid? from homes, automobiles, or from off shore locations or foreign countries, including India. Since the scammers have kept themselves purposely well hidden, thus far no law enforcement agencies have succeeded in locating or shutting them down.

The scammers typically pose as law enforcement officers, investigators, lawyers, and bankers and threaten consumers that they will be arrested for ?bank fraud? or other fictitious crimes unless money is wired immediately. They simultaneously scare and confuse consumers by using meaningless legalese gobbledygook phrases such as, ?We are downloading warrants against you? or ?We are filing an affidavit against you.? Consumers who don?t immediately fall for the scam are warned, ?Only God can help you now.?

The scammers almost always call consumers at work several times a day, and tell their supervisors, ?Your employee has committed fraud and is about to be arrested.? Such threats have proven unsettling even to the most savvy consumers and employers who suspect the calls are fraudulent.

Attorney General McGraw stated, ?Ordinarily my office protects consumers from fraudulent activities by seeking injunctions in court. But legal action cannot be taken until the scam artists can be located. Even then, it is unlikely that the persons behind the fraudulent calls and extortionist threats would obey a court order. In this case, the consumer?s best defense is to be armed with the knowledge of the scam so that all demands for money can be resisted, despite the false but scarey threats of arrest.?

McGraw added, ?Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming. I also wish to assure the citizens of West Virginia that my office will continue to do everything possible to locate and shut down the outlaw debt collectors.?

More information about this fraudulent debt collection scheme is available at the Attorney General?s website, www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam. Any consumers who have been threatened by these persons or wish to file a complaint about another consumer matter may do so by calling the Consumer Protection Hot Line, 1-800-368-8808, or by obtaining a complaint form from the Attorney General?s web site.

It's a debt collection scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.
This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com
A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )
Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-499-9983


Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors
By Leslie McFadden ? Bankrate.com
Monday, Aug. 3
Posted 2 p.m.
Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.
This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.
The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.
What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.
"The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.
Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.
The BBB offers these tips:
?    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt.
?    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call.
?    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
?    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.

a foreign guys keeps calling me saying that i have a lawsuit against from a ban that ive never been to and he will not explain anything to me, he just keeps saying that their is a lawsuit, now they are saying i have credit card debt and i have never owned any credit cards, anyone else have this problem from this number?how to get rid of them

These fools started calling (completely out of the blue) about 2-weeks ago, asking for a name I have never heard of.

I tried to explain they had the wrong number but they kept calling anyway so I finally said I was the guy they were asking for and what do they want?

These freaking foreigners started telling me a bunch of BS about a "sibling" (then a friend in other calls) of mine that was in desperate trouble and that "they" were going to help out.

These fools have goofy foreign accents, can barely speak American English and would never be hired by any type of law firm or even collection agency anywhere in this country.  Even if they were (hired) they certainly wouldn't be the ones making these types of calls.

Since they were calling me from Manhattan (hence the 212 area code), I asked them what street they were on. (they said they couldn't tell me), So I asked them to name 5 major streets in the city (I mean even a tourist could do that), NOPE, couldn't do that either!  WHY? Because these jerks are nowhere near Manhattan, Upstate NY, California or anywhere else in this country.  Don't fall for any of this

Remember, I REALLY AM THE WRONG NUMBER but I played along.  They wanted me to "help" my unidentified friend by sending money. They asked for my credit card information, banking info, social security number, pin numbers, addresses, phone numbers, all kinds of things while all the while trying to appease my sense of loyalty and responsibility for getting my friend (still unidentified) out of trouble (also unidentified).

When I would ask for my "friends" name, the a-hole would always tell me he would have to look it up and get back to me.  The same is true with the type of trouble "he" was in.

I gave them everything they wanted!  Made it all up!  Just to see what would happen, I balked at giving them a made-up pin number so they started "intimidating" me by threatening me with imminent arrest!

Told me, they would file a charges against me for falsifying information, continued with abusive attacks and more threatening "legal action" if I would not start cooperating! Oh yeah, and they were sending the police to arrest me if I didn't follow their instructions to the letter!

Told them I was VERY SCARED of all this and that they should send someone to pick up some money immediately to "make this all go away".  

I work in an extremely rough area of the Bronx and told them to meet me there -- my friends and I were going to open the most extreme can o' whoop as* that you could ever imagine.

For you foreign f#cks who are reading this entry, google whoop as* and see what would have awaited you!

Sorry to say, no one ever showed.  We had bats, chains and a whole host of other un-pleasantries awaiting our friends arrival.  They would have wished the cops would have shown up if only to scrape the pieces up and get them the hell out of there!

For any potential victims who may be reading this.  DON'T BE AFRAID!

None of their threats or intimidation are real.  They can neither hurt you or have you arrested or sued. They can't do anything to you or your family.  They are silly, barely literate foreign bottom-feeders who would be banned from entering this country if they even tried.  Do not fear them.

If you don't wish to engage them, never return their calls no matter what they say, or at worst, change your phone number.  They will never be able to touch you, I PROMISE.

The phone numbers showing up on your caller id are FAKE, they are not in NY or CA or anywhere else in the U.S.  Don't let them get to you!

Tell them to shut the F up and go away.

The thing that seems to have finally made them go away, is an AIR HORN blast EVERY TIME they have called.  No, hello, no what do you want.  JUST AN IMMEDIATE AIR HORN BLAST!!!!

Other numbers they have called me on:

718-673-6125
212-372-7274
810-675-751   (the last digit seems to be missing for some reason ;-)
ID Restricted (what are you afraid of a-holes)


see: http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-372-7274#pp2BkHPtVcABqeAjMPyYBHg


see:  http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/2123727274#pyupEeuNpGgBIOAjMPx9btA

It seems they also call from 212-372-7274

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/2123727274

Just got the same call and threats.  They even gave me the time and date of the supposed "deposit" to my account.  I offered to send them proof that I didn't want to receive the money but they weren't interested.  What "attorney" would not be interested in that?  Has to be a scam.

Here is what they told me...and that i committed 3 counts of fraud and papers would filed in the local county courthouse today.  I requested the proof that he had that I had received the deposit.  Dont see it.

Name:  John Wright
Location:  New York
Company:  Affadavit Consolidation Services

dude calls me saying I owed $300 to some AdvancedCash place, they had the wrong social and account number. these people are indian-like people....its a scam.