tired of them callin my phone

I didn't answer...

WALLINGFORD, CT, August 07, 2009 /24-7PressRelease/ -- Better Business Bureau is warning consumers about would-be debt collectors who call "payday" loan holders, threatening arrest if they don't pay immediately.

A payday loan, also known as a paycheck advance, is a short-term cash advance intended to cover expenses until the holder's next payday.

The callers claim they are lawyers with the "Financial Accountability Association" or the "Federal Legislation of Unsecured Loans," and they are armed with stolen personal information from their victims, indicating a major security breach of unknown origin. The names used by the scammers may change with time.

According to Connecticut Better Business Bureau President, Paulette Scarpetti, payday loan holders appear to be particularly at risk.

"Because the scammers have so much information about potential victims, BBB is concerned that this may be the result of a data breach. Thousands of people may have had their personal information compromised."

Reports received by Better Business Bureau and posted online explain the con artists threaten the loan holders of defaulting and claim they are being sued. The imposters threaten the loan holders with imminent arrest and extradition to California to stand trial, unless they immediately wire $1000 or provide bank account or credit card information.

Connecticut Better Business Bureau has advice for consumers who receive suspicious telephone calls about an outstanding debt:

-Don't be bullied into immediate action. Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation that substantiates the debt.
-Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the telephone until you confirm the legitimacy of the call.
-If you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you, file an abuse complaint with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) online at www. ftc.gov, or by telephone at (202) 326-2222. Also file a complaint with your Better Business Bureau at http://www.bbb.org or by telephone at 203-269-2700, ext. 2.

About Better Business Bureau CT

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I don't even think they are a collection agency.  They are just some
straight up scammers, trying to see who they can get!!!

Yes, this is true.  This man has called me with an indian accent.  He refers to himself as an Officer of Investigative services and then called from a different number as Jason Hunt.  He is now harrassing the receptionist.  I don't know who these people are but it gets embarrassing at work.  

Officer 412 360 8423
Jason Hunt 732 606 4378
They call from different numbers.

Dude, you're not just a suspect, you're guilty.

Hi Heather. This jason hunt called me at my work and said I owed $800 on a payday loan and that I had to pay it by 12:00 or that the Authorities were coming to question me. He used enough legal terms, and had my soc.# that he had me convinced that I relly was in trouble. So I am out $855.00 that I will never see again, and had to cancel the credit card used to pay off the supposed debt. I typed The dept of crime prevention  with jason hunts name also and it brought me to this website. unbeleivable.I Contacted the FBI the very next day, but there is nothing they can do because he is obviously a foreigner of arab or indian race. The FBI agent said to watch my credit closely and to check my soc# frequently.

my girl friend got a call from jason hunt department of crime prevention florida requesting to have me telling her he got her name as a reference. I called him back . When I questioned him about what his department came under looking for information he became agitated and told me i have no right i told him #1 i have a right to face my accuser I have  a right to all information against me this b*****d his response you have no rights.

Told me that I was a suspect and that I needed to give them information or else the police were going to show up at my door

Some guy left me a message at work saying that is name was Anthony & that he's from the Dept. Of Criminal Prosecution. When I called it was indian guy clamming he was calling from cash net usa, he begins with my name then my ss# and where i work & that I was the main suspect of writing fraudulent checks....I dont even have a bank account!!!. Then I started questioning him & was getting aggravated with me & starting speaking very rudely. I told him I knew it was a scam (I search the num) & he started saying that he can help me become debt free for a small fee & i told him that I was going to contact my lawyer so he told me I'm sorry I have the wrong person??

I got a call from this number today from Alex from the Department of Crimes. I figured it was a scam and told him I couldn't talk at the moment. He told me to call him back immediately or I could face serious criminal charges so I disconnected the call and immediately tried to look up the department of crimes on the internet to no avail...

It's a scam based in India, and the threats are false and illegal. (By the way, the police aren't involved in debt collections because such matters are of a civil, not a criminal, nature.)

See my message earlier in this thread from Nov. 25 for details about who these criminals are and how you can report them to federal and state law enforcement.

I recieved a call from Jason Hunt and he told me i own alot of money for a payday loan and he had court papers filed for me to appear as a prime suspect and that he was faxing paper work to my place of employment and the cops would show up at my work to talk to me and at my house to talk to he told me to call him everyday until i made my first payment.  He was very rude to my father and me.  He told me i had to contact a lawyer because i was in alot of trouble.

that's what i did. I called him 4 to 5 times a day. my pet name for him is my little cockroach.

How about some pay-back.
I say post this number anywhere you can. Blogs...classifieds etc. and let's all call him over and over!

Number: 813-359-8994

I received a phone call today from a gentleman who left a message. I promptly returned his phone call and he told me that he was from the Dept. of Crime Prevention or something similar. He had a strong Indian accent and did claim to be located in India.
He said that he represented a company that was trying to collect a debt from me. He was very forceful and rude. He stated that if I did not take care of the matter that there would be a warrant for my arrest by 3:00 today and I could be jailed for up to 30 days. I started to question him as to what this was about and he stated it had to do with an internet loan I had received in 2007 that I defaulted on. He stated that he was reading from an avadavat. I asked how to clear it up and he stated I needed to pay a figure that was somewhere near $2,000. I asked name of company and he said it was CASH NET USA. I continued to question further and stated that I had no account and was concerned that this was some sort of fraud, he became even ruder. What really concerned me was that he had my bank account number and social security number. He finally hung up as I continued to question him. When I called back he said that he had never heard of me and the number I called was a physician and lawyer office and he was just the operator. He eventually hung up on me and wouldn?t answer follow-up calls.
    I contacted CASH NET USA who has no record of an account for me and stated that this is a concern and they had their own investigators working on this scam.
    I have also notified my local police station, my bank, and the FTC.
The number that I called was 813-359-8994 and the man?s name was Steve.

I got a call from a friend of mine who was contacted by this man stating he was trying to get ahold of me.  I was in New York over the holiday - I called hime back and he stated that He was from the "Crime Protection Agency", that I was a suspect and that he needed my attorney's info.  I told him to stop calling me and harassing my friends as this was a scam and hung up.  I have since looked up the phone number on "Google" and seen that I am not alone.  I called the number back, told him who I was and that I was going top report him - he immediately hung up.

How much did they get you for?

Jason Hunt just called me.  Said I owed $300 for an internet payday loan. He had all my info. Said authorities were coming to pick me up for questioning and that I needed to pay this off before 1pm today.  I called the sheriff and police dept. They had nothing on me.

I contacted CashNetUsa about this and they say that they have also recieved complaints about these people. I know that this is not CNUSA's mode of collection as I have done business with them for 3 years. They also said they have their own investigators on the case. Thanks so much for the info about the other numbers they are using.

It's a scam. And all their threats are false and illegal. See my message below for details.

It's a scam. And all their threats are false and illegal. ABC News and the West Virginia Attorney General have warned consumers about this scam; here are the links:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm

This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."

Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Legal Affidavit, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-321-221-0018
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-408-404-1520
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-901-328-9342
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-908-244-2001

I got a call from "Jason Hunt" this morning; he left a message on my voicemail. He had a REALLY thick Indian or Arab accent, said that if I called him back, I would be saved from some very serious "legal troubles." If I didn't call back it would be a "big mess."
When he ended the call he said "good luck and God bless."
WTF???

My mother and my sister were left this message that if they did not return this phone call to Jasoon Hunt that things would not go well for them.  My Mother was scared and returned the Call. They said that this was in reference to me and that I had to call them back immediatly because this was a criminal matter.  I called them and they also told me it was about a 2007 Cash Net Usa Loan.  All of the loans I have taken out have been paid in full.  I called Cash Net and They said they believed this was a fraud based on the information I had given Them. I called the county and federal court houses in my area and they had no Idea what I was refering to.  This is definately a fraud of some sort.  If you get this call please do not give out any information and if they have it already, please change everything so you do not loose everything you have worked hard for in your life

This caller called me in Mn because, Unknown to me, i was used as a ref. He used the name Jason Hunt.He threatened me if i didn't pass the message on.I spoke to the Federal trade commision,Florida attorney general,and finally ended up at the Florida Division of finace.I will file a consumer complaint form for collections. He will pass the number along to the Investagaters.Then they will sepeona the phone company for the company name or address.I urge every one to go to www.flofr website and file a complaint.You don't need it noterized to send it to the investagators.

I got the same call. Mine was from some  Jason Hunt. When I started questioning him he put me on hold, then said he worked for CashNetUsa with whom I have a payday loan through. First tho, they called my brother and did the same thing to him. They said he would be a accomplice and under investigation also if they were to divulge my "criminal activity" to him. I have also contacted the company, the Florida attorney general, as has my brother. This doesn't sound like Cashnetusa's collection tactics. I had just recieved a letter that same day with a payment plan put in place.What a coincidence huh?  When I told him that he hung up. I have closed my accounts at the bank because i feel someones security has been breached.

This is clearly a collection agency. There is no such "Department of Crime Prevention" in Florida. They called me this morning and when I asked for the supervisor, I was disconnected twice. Then I called back and asked for their mailing address, they wouldn't give it to me. It is illegal to threaten someone with criminal actions over a civil matter. I informed them of this and reported this entire thing to the Attorney General's office in Florida.

i to have received this call but via an ex boyfriend. when i called to find out what was going on i was confronted by a very aggressive arab(anthony davis with an id# of 2438) he was rude and refused to tell me what the matter was pertaining to let alone give me a case file. i was very aggresive in return and gave him my cell # (which was a mistake)but i have not heard anything in return. if you receive this or anyone you know be cautious because i believe it is a fishing expodition.

jason hunt called my job he told me he was with crime prevention. he told me that to send him 250.00 by 11pm tonite or they would garnish my pay check.This seems like a scam. be careful. Do not give info to these people. must report to www.ic3.gov.

eva i got the same call from this no this morning n i did talked to them.eva i thought at d first sight that they are some collection agency but to be surprised it was not.i varified each n every information with them n than i did everything to take care of the serious issue.his name was anthony davis.he helped me out a lots..