www.businessregistrycenter.com

don't pay them a dime!!  they cannot do anything or take any legal action and that is a secret they do not want you to know. they shipped this stuff illegally and operate illegally and are hoping you don't do your homework. i repeat do not give them a dime!

My company received a disk from the Business Registry Center, 1055 Lucien L'Allier, Suite 417, Montreal, QC, H3G 3C4, Canada, phone 1-888-774-9902, fax 1-888-404-8616.

Basically they sent us a disk with an invoice a month before it arrived, stating that if you didn't want it, you needed to return it 15 days after the invoice date - which is impossible, of course. They also said if the disk was no longer sealed it could not be returned (the disk arrived in a cheap dollar-store dvd case with a photocopied insert which didn't fit the cover. It had a bunch of gobbledegook writing trying to sound impressive and important, but the wording made no sense and there were a lot of spelling errors.)

The disk itself was laughable. Basically someone has made a cheapie database and likely typed in the Ontario yellow page directory. The disk also refers you to their 'web page' which is basically a start-up wordpress template with the title changed to Business Registry Centre. They didn't even bother to change the welcome postings wordpress posts.

The fast-talking Business Registry Centre had talked to our staffer implying that a coworker had ordered a product and they needed our shipping address and the name of who he was speaking to about a month before the disk showed up. Then we received the disk. When we didn't pay the invoice, the harassing letters and phone calls to our staffer started. I took over the phone calls.

I told the Business Registry Center person who I spoke to that unless and until they could provide me with a signed document or a taped evidence that our staffer had ordered the disk that we wouldn't be paying for it. They continued to harass us with notices of arrears (poorly done on photocopied letterhead) for about six months before we got a black and white cheap looking photocopied letter from the Business Registry Center saying that even though they did the right thing and they acted lawfully, it had come to their attention that our company had contacted the ombudsman and that they would follow their "internal code of ethic" that the customer is always right, that they had decided to credit our invoice to a zero balance, and "call block from our system your telephone number." Good.

My suggestion to those of you who are going through this is

*make them show you proof that your staff ordered the disk

*respond to every invoice they send you with a generic letter stating that unless and until they provide proof to you that someone on your staff ordered their product you will not be paying their bill. I eventually told them to refer to my original letter and be advised that I would not be changing my position until I received the proof of order that I required. Tell them that you have advised your staff that this invoice is not to be paid under any circumstances.

* tell everyone in your company who has authority to cut a cheque what is going on so the invoice doesn't get paid.

This is some text from my first letter to them (feel free to copy and paste and use for your own!)

"Your material and contact with my office is unsolicited and unwanted. I request that you immediately remove us from any contact list you may have and that you cease and desist from any form of contact with [your business here] and its representatives."

"My initial suspicious of deceptive trade practices have been heightened by a number of factors which are specifically (but certainly not limited to):

- poor grammar, spelling errors, and incoherent babble on your product cover;
- your substandard disk and its cheap paper label;
- the fact that in 2012 you do not have an email address or a web page;
- there is no listing or mention of your company on internet business directories. I find this especially interesting considering you are attempting to stick us with a business registry that you have prepared."

"I will not be paying the postage to return something which was sent to our office using what I consider to be deceptive business practices. Further, I am advising that you have 90 days to pick up your disk in whatever way you choose."

"Any costs you incur for retrieving your disk from our office are yours to bear and I will not be authorizing payment to cover same."

"If you do no pick up your disk from our office by the end of the 90-day period noted above your disk will be disposed of."

"Please be advised that this letter has been distributed to all employees of [your company] to ensure that they will not authorize or approve any payments or receipt of any materials from your company."


This is the text from one of my follow-up responses to them. Feel free to use it for your own:

"This letter is in reply to your undated Third Notice.

As I have previously directed, please refer to my [Original letter date] letter to you. My response has not and will not change.

You have been unable to provide any evidence to me that anyone from this office ordered your product. I remain convinced that you are shysters.

All employees of [your company name] remain aware that they are not authorized or approved to pay this invoice or any invoice from you or your representatives.

Sincerely,"


It took almost half a year but I think my company is finally rid of these shysters.  Good luck to you!

Hi,

I need more proof to bury these guys. Can you please fax me a copy of their invoice, I would really appreciate it.  604-630-6680

Thanks,

Jen

Hi,

The samething happened to me. Could you please fax a copy of the invoice they sent you, so I can show my boss I was not the only one to get scammed.  604-630-6680

WELL THE LATEST SCAM IS A DVD WITH ADDRESS, LABEL EVERYTHING A COMPANY CAN USE.
THIS IS 1055 LUCIEN L'ALLIER, SUIT 417 MONTREAL QC, AS SOON AS I RECEIVED THE PACKAGE I WAS ON THE INTERNET LOOKIING FOR THEM, UPS AND ADULT TOYS, BOOKSTORE IS THEIR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOURS  AT THAT ADDRESS. I WROTE RETURN TO SENDER ON THE PACKAGE AND MAILED BACK THE NEXT DAY THIS WAS IN MAY 2012 SINCE IT HAS BEEN RETURNED I HAVE RECEIVED THREE MORE INVOICES FOR 229.43. MY MISTAKE WAS CALLING THEM AT 1 888 774 9902 AND ADVISED THEM THAT IT WAS SEND BACK TO THEM. THEY ARE TELLING ME THAT THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED PACKAGE - THEY DON'T TRUST OUR CANADA POST SYSTEM PLUS THEY HAVE THE ORIGINAL TRACKING # ON THE ENVELOPE, WHAT IS A POOR COMPANY LIKE MINE GOING TO DO!
THREATEN WITH FILING A REPORT WITH BETTER BUSINESS AND THE POLICE RCMP.
I HAD ENOUGH OF IT ALREADY. PLUS I PHOTCOPY EVERYTHING AND DOCUMENTED DATES AND TIMES.  ANY SUGGESTIONS OUT THERE?

Want to know all about Levits scam, google "Bob Levit Packing Tape Scam" Its all there

These guys bribed the guy they got on the phone with AMEX gift checks., and they sent me 4 cases and biilled me $2000.00 which accounting stupiodly paid. When I called they gave me the run around. Thank you for Levits info. Lets see how he enjoys court.

If you have bought from Delta, Empire Ind, Allstate Shipping or Allstate Packing and shipping you have been scammed. They sell tape valued at  $40.00 per case for $500 per case plus freight and handling. They sent the poor soulo who answered the phone a $5.00 gift card from Starbucks or Tim Horton for agtreeing to accept catalogs and a case of 2" clear tape thyey hyave been using. The script doesn't tell them that Allstate is not and has never been their supplier,

Robert "Bob" Levit is the owner and perpertrator of this scam He claims to have made millions.
There phone number is 818-205-9347   His cell number is 818-378-1664. His home address is available upon request.

No problem Bob the owner doesn,t want any trouble, he just wants to add to his "millions"

Hey, so all i have to do is alert the accounting separtment not to pay the invoice and nothing else can happen?

I have had the same thing happend to me? SO what happends of we dont pay? Can they take any legal action?

You are absolutely correct it is a scam and Bob Levit is the man behiond the scam. He has owned Delta, Empire and now its Allstate. You can try his 818-205-9346. Don't let them talk  you into a discount, push and he will send back your money.

Lori,  Can you send me the Canadian information?  We tried to call the number on the box 800-401-1831 and get no reply.  Same thing happened here - an new, unauthorized person got the call, and even though she said she could not authorize a purchase and could not get a purchase order, they sent the box of tape anyway to her attention.  We don't want it or need it.  We just want to send it back to get it out of the shop.

I do believe that companies need to be vigilant in dealing with scams such as this. However, if you are suggesting the companies being solicited are to blame for this you may want to check the depth of your own gene pool.

If you are the President, could we get a proper shipping address or proper UPS account to have UPS charge what was charged back to our company for returning your unwanted and unorder box of packing tape.
Thanks

ALLSTATE PACKING & SHIPPING did try and scam us also, using a Tim Horton's card as the hook.  The Invoice said Verbal PO #, we always use a PO #, they spoke with someone originally that had no authority to place an order. I was made aware of it when the tape arrived, I tracked down the Canadian office, sent emails and had this resolved by noon. We managed to pull this site up and as they tried to tell me I was to pay return shipping I read these Blogs to them as they were being insistent. I was persistent myself, they then had the Canadian location send me a pre-paid Purolator label, ZEORED my invoice and I sent the tape back and called Tim Horton's Canada to advise them. My advice, be persistent

I understand many of you are upset, and have resorted to using this outlet to share your frustrations. Has it ever occurred to any of you that perhaps there is some fault on your end? Why automatically assume the role of victim? Judging by the grammar employed in the majority of posts I can't help but question the competence and mental capacity of some of you people. Yet you intend for others to believe that you have been hoodwinked by a predatory company looking to take advantage of the various companies represented here in this thread.
When your respective companies cut corners and fail to effectively communicate with their employees it is THEIR fault. When they're so frugal that they offer the absolute minimum wage, then they get what they pay for. By stocking their warehouses, shipping departments, accounts payable departments, etc. with the shallow end of the gene pool then this is what happens. Before crying foul and crying about spilled milk, take a moment to analyze the situation objectively (if you are capable of doing so) and take action to prevent these unfortunate miscommunications. By talking things out, you'll be amazed at how much can be accomplished.

Call us to return the tape.

They got me too, but they are now using Tim Hortons's cards, maybe we should get ahold of Tim Horton;s and let them know that there name is attached to a scam

I got hit by these guys a couple of months ago & thankfully found this board.  Same deal, offering to send out a catalog, a *free* box of packing tape for which we were later invoiced (never paid of course), along with a Tim Hortons gift card. The interesting thing about the return label on the packing tape, was that it was the address for Purolator Courier's main depot in Richmond BC. Now Purolator is a legit company, so obviously they're being scammed somehow as well. Anyway they just called me again this morning, I called them on their scam and was hung up on. I think everyone should call their number, and though you can never get through to an actual person, we should all rickroll their answering service!

I've been scammed too,, thought I was getting 1 box and it's now on the 5th,, just received 4 more,, boss told me to send it back,,  have already called the number in Dorvel but not response yet.  Also got address on boxes from Richmond BC,, how do you know which one to send it too?  Need help

don't worry, you don't have to do a thing. tell them if they want their tape back, they can send you a prepaid shipping label to send it back. otherwise, tell them to go to hell.  they can't send you to collections because what they are doing is illegal. they can't do a thing and have no leg to stand on because the order was not authorized.  they are banking on the fact that you will not call them on there bluffs.

ps :  i just kept my tape to spite them and did not even offer to ship it back, but that's me. they whined and cried about it but each call i repeated how they were scam artists, and this tape was illegally shipped to me.  in the end, their threats were empty and they stopped calling..  i think if everyone did this, they would go out of business.

We have been receiving calls from Brittanei of Allstate Canadian Shipping Supplies for payment on an Invoice Number: A06141108, for Tape that our purchaser did not order for our company. We are a trailer manufacturer and we do not use packing tape to wrap a trailer for shipping, and yet they use our purchaser's name as verbal reference for the order. We have a company policy that no orders are placed without a purchase order. I told them that I found the boxes of tape and that we did not order these goods and that I want to send it back to them on their own courier account, but they will not accept our arrangement. I find that Allstate Canadian Shipping Supplies is a scam and they just ship goods to you and use your purchaser's name as verbal reference.

Send it to 14542 Ventura Blvd. Suite 202, Sherman Oaks, CA 91403. Be sure they pay for the return postage, if they don't, tell them you are not going to send it back until they send you a prepaid label. They cannot send you to collections and they cannot legally make you pay for anything.  Tell em if they want their product back then they're gonna have to pay for it.  If it were me though I would just keep it to spite them. They can't make you pay for something you never ordered in the first place, dig?

They have met their match here.  Allstate is a scam, Cindi, John & Brittney are all scam artist.

That is the exact message word for word that they gave me except instead of Starbucks it was Tim Hortons. The cheap b*****ds

They won't send you to collections because they don't really have any way of sending anyone to collections... Bob won't spend one extra dime on a collection agency!!! NO WAY!!! Truth is, you are absolutely right hoosier51. If you don't pay the bill, they may continue to harass you constantly, but so long as you inform them you do not want their tape and that the order was not authorized, they can do nothing. By the way people, just send a letter to the Attorney General of CA. You will never have another order shipped to you again if you do... You'll still get the phone calls, cause they use reference USA lists, and it's really not the telemarketers fault about that... and telling them to remove you from their list does nothing cause you're on the reference USA list... they have no way of eliminating any company from that... company has to do that themselves... but... hey... just be firm and clear and they will give up sooner or later and send you a prepaid mailing label.

Look David:
Who's this?   Hi, this is Anna from Allstate... How are ya? great... I'm calling cause we just go our new catalogs in and we're gonna get a couple out to ya... ok... You're still over at ------ right... and you're still using that 2" clear tape right? Ok great...

Listen, last week we reached our 25th anniversary and to celebrate, we're sending you out a really nice premium. It's a starbuck's gift card good for you and a friend.... so if you have a pen handy, I'll give you our tracking receipt number... ready? Ok good... and how do I spell your last name??? Ok great... I'll go ahead and mark that to your attention... enjoy it...

You know ________, we're trying to keep our products at last year's price for you... so to get you on board I think I'm gonna have them send you out a box of that 2" clear tape you've been using, and that's gonna go ahead and freeze you guys at last year's price on all the catalog items for the next 24 months ok? And as usual, we prepay the shipping, and that'll come out on the standard 30day open billing for ya, ok.

Ok great... well listen, you enjoy the starbucks... oh, and by the way, do we need to tag the tapes invoice with a purchase order number, or can we go ahead and just mark that verbal to your attention? Ok great, we'll mark it that way...

Ya know, these gift cards are really flying out the door, so let me just transfer you down to shipping real quick so that way they can be sure to get one in the box for you before we run out... have a great day...

So there you have it folks... that's the script... Cindy is not disgruntled David... she's just feeling guilt over how she behaved just because she needed to make a living... like the rest of the poor souls Bob has sucked in over the years.... Don't defend it... anyone who has ever dealt with this company whether he called it Delta Shipping, which is when he made most of the money by the way, or he calls it Empire Industries, or he calls it Allstate Shipping... they are all run by Bob Levit... you are just another lackie with a title that has no real authority!! Anyone who's ever worked for Bob knows that's how it is... He's a total micromanager... always has been... always will be... Just wondering if he still owns that wonderful house he bought with his "millions"... or has he had to step down since the world has caught on to him and that dude he use to work for who has his business in Valencia, CA now... same kind of poor business tactics, Steve, that was his name... Bob learned all this garbage from him!! Dynatek!! WOW... Small world!

Oh, and by the way David... I'm not a disgruntled employee... I'm a happy one... you just don't have a clue which one of the staff I am!! The fronters really aren't the scammers... the people on the other end of the phone are not listening... they need to listen more carefully. The ILLEGAL part is the re-orders where the bribes come in... you should know David, bribing people is illegal... and you can actually go to jail for it... that's why Bob always refunds people who write to the Attorney General!!!

You should give him the tracking number so he can accept the tape. If you tell him the tracking number, he will authorize the acceptance of the tape for return. You made a mistake.

Also, if people would just refuse these boxes of tape from day 1, there would be no issues. Why is it so many companies don't review the items received prior to UPS leaving their location? Perhaps there's too many boxes in receiving for some companies, but a lot of companies just don't pay attention. Everyone needs to pay attention to what's going on. This company banks on the fact that not all companies watch what's coming into their receiving departments. That's the receiving clerk/manager's job... to double check the incoming packages for accuracy.... Keep your people on their toes to avoid all these scam companies!!!!