These are the same people that called themselves National Check Recovery Services. They change their name and phone number occasionally to keep from getting caught. They will never show up at your house because they?re not even in your state. Just don?t return their calls. They?re making hundreds of calls a day hoping someone will call them back.

Hey Ashley, Why don?t you admit that you work in the collections industry instead taking this arrogant position? This company is a total scam. They are con artist how have a data base of pay day loan applications.  They try the scare people into send sending them money that they DO NOT OWE or have no legal right to collect. The real question is how can YOU look yourself in the mirror and try to defend these slimy people (unless you are one of them).

Anyone ever heard of Tucker, Patterson and Associates? I spoke to a LaShauna McGrew back in March.  Was told I would be picked up at my job by officers as a result of defaulting on Payday Loans from 2008. I used my prepaid card and paid 500 bucks.  Did some research that night before paying the remaining balance only to find there is no 1st Federal National Bank (none that I could find). I won't be able to get that $$ back.

Beware of Thornburg, Patterson and Associates which is the name that showed up on my bank statement.

Hey Ashley,some people were probably unable to repay the loan due to a financial situation. You are apparently ignorant to the happenings in this country right now. I personally do not have a job right now,so that leaves me unemployed. If you take out a loan of any kind and then lose your job,hmm...chances are you may not be able to repay it! I don't have any loans out personally,but I am much more understanding than you. I have taken out Payday loans in the past and have done my best to repay them but have not been able to. These companies say that they have tried to send mail etc. but that is just not true because if they had,they would have known what your current address was but looking it up on your credit report,if they were so worried about getting their money back. Screw these companies that are trying to scam American's out of their hard earned money.

I got This too. I gave them an account number but closed it. received a letter saying it was paid. I never paid a penny. there dogs people. scam scam scam

Dawn,
Thanks for the post.  I have the exact thing happening to me.  Different company same game.  SCAM, SCAM, SCAM.

Thanks.

I have filed complaints FTC, FBI, Attorney General, 60 minutes, and Chris Hansen I understand he is preparing to do a show on these kind of companies...so let's help him find them!!!! please file complaints these people are calling and stressing my 77 yr old mom about a debt I dont owe...the number they are calling from is 716-200-4743.

Yes its a scam

This is a scam! We called the state police to verify it. They get your info from the internet. Same thing happend to my boyfriend and once we told them we called the state police they never bothered us again.

I received a call from this number on my landline phone.

I got a call from Kim Kessler who said she was a claims advisor for National Check Arbitration Service, INC regarding Outback Bucks payday loan from 2008.  I pulled up old acct statement and saw Outback Bucks on there for $300 so I made payment arrangements with a pre-paid card.  I got a paid in full letter on NCAS stationary (636 N. French Road, Suite 3, Amherst NY 14228) with her name, number 877-303-1287 and fax 716-525-1554.  

Not long after, I got 4 other calls from different collection agencies regarding this same Outback acct so I started doing some checking. (Should have done this after the first call)  I asked for proof of this loan with my signature and any collection letters they claim they sent to me.  That info was unavailable. They all said a summons was being issued and payment had to be made by 5 pm that day or they would be at my job Monday morning to arrest me and my supervisor.  I laughed and asked what time they were coming so the 5 judges and 1 attorney I work for could be ready.  I heard papers rustling and then CLICK!!  

I sent a dummy letter to Kim Kessler but it came back marked "UNABLE TO DELIVER AS ADDRESSED".  Tried calling the numbers and they don't work.  I got screwed on this one with Kessler  but I stopped the rest of them in their tracks.  Haven't heard from anybody else.

Just beware and do some checking before paying anything.

Received a call today from a number, blocked and said unknown, no number listed. Stated I am being sued for a breach of contract for a possible check someone wrote on my behalf, someone was going to be in my area serving me a summons at my home or my workplace if I did not call 877-599-1957 and speak to someone in legal department for info on case and documents. Message was left on my answering machine stating that I had been notified and served at this point. The person who called said her name was Stacy but she did not leave a name contact number. These people have also called my parents and an out of town uncle saying this and using the National Check Arbitration name. They also called my grandmother stating I was involved in an accident and fled the scene and they were trying to track me down to lock me up. I do not have checks and if someone wrote a check for me they would be collecting the money from them. I have not been involved in an accident and it is cruel to say that to an 80 year old woman. I will be reporting them tonight!

RECEIVED CALL FROM NATIONAL CHECK ARBITRATION SERVICE INC. 636 N. FRENCH ROAD, SUITE 3, AMHERST NY 14228, 877-303-1287, FAX 716-525-1554.  THIS NUMBER IS A PERSONAL CELL PHONE.  UNABLE TO FIND ANYTHING ON THIS COMPANY.

is there a differernt number to call to get in touch with these people? An where are they base out of?

I got a message from these people National Check Arbitration from a Tracy Helm. She left the number 800-515-7114, she left a case number and gave me the whole sch peel about a summons and court and blah blah blah blah. This is the 2nd time I have received a call where they are trying to demand payment over the phone. This is definitely a scam, they refuse to mail any documentation to support there is an outstanding debt, they are rude and hang up when you ask them to do so.  They do not provide the debtors name/company etc...very shady  BEWARE

I had the same exact phone call todaya nd yesterday, for OUtback Bucks payday loan. I too had to close my account after strange checks were posted against my account. They told me the y would email and fax me a letter that stated proof of the debt. But, they haven't yet. They wanted a credit card over the phone wothout providing the name and address f the company I was paying.

So, did anyone ever get a summons? I received the same call yesterday. I am actually on the phone with them right now. They asked how how I got the number, and they want me to pay right now, They only accept credit cards.

I got a message from my uncle on thursday of last week.  He said he got a call from these thugs demanding that he give me the message to call the fraud department at this national check arbitration.  Little do they know i work for a debt consolidation company, they had disclosed to a third party that i had a debt outstanding from a pay day loan.  They were claiming it was a bad check and that this could be very serious if i didnt call that office.  They told my uncle that they would put me on a list for a summons to go to court if i didnt call them that day. My uncle didnt get the name of the caller, just to get in touch with the fraud division.  I never called because my debts are being cleared through bankrupcy.  In my line of work we deal with alot of these type of collection companies, they seem to be growing more and more.  Pretty much what they do is buy debt from a broker, in this case -Pay-Day-Loans then they use false and misleading threats to get you to call them back.  These illegal tactics are all against the FDCPA (Fair Debt Collection Practices Act) wich is a federal collection law that protects consumers from illegal collection tactics.  Most of these payday loan companies dont report to your credit.  I have filed an online complaint to the attorney general in NY. I had found the company address on manta.com.  National Check Arbitration Service Inc 636 N French Road Buffalo, NY 14228-1900.  I also am going to obtain legal representation to file a lawsuit.  Dont let these debt collectors break the law! You have rights as a consumer!

so did you get any papers in the mail to go to court? because i got the same call today. but i filed bankruptcy so im not sure what they are after...

Hi There,

I myself have had the same call from my mother. I called them back and they told me they have been mailing notices and letter to my mailing address--but I had moved. They said they knew that (creepy!) because they had supenia my bank account records and it showed there was a new address on my account.

So I was able to pay the $420.00 right there and then. The debt that was owed was from a payday loan company that had a great deal ( I will never do that again--you live and you learn, right?) It was from Outback Bucks The reason why I never paid it was because after getting the money deposited from Outback Bucks in my account--I had some weird internet check post on my checking account--and Chase Bank said they think I should close it--so Outback still had my old checking account information so the check bounced. This was 3 years ago--and they are finally contacting me. I knew it was my debt so I just paid it in full.

But they called ONCE and I never got anything in the mail.....werid...

Hope that helps

Jake

This is all these crooks have. Guilt. Innuendo.

Guess what? MOST OF THESE PEOPLE DONT OWE YOU SQUAT.

AND YOU KNOW IT TOO.

Many of these calls go to THE WRONG PEOPLE.

These shady bill collectors repeatedly BREAK THE LAW.

The scammer's worst enemy: factual information. Thank you 800notes: if these thieves are cockroaches, you are RAID<

Really- How do you look yourself in the mirror? You borrowed the money and did'nt pay it back so who is the REAL scammer here? Good Luck to you- And where did you get the rocks you throw at glass houses? One day one will come back and hit you in the forehead.

if you paid the bill ...they would not call you. i was dumb enough to take out this payday loan and never paid it back. i was fortunate that these people were willing to help me take care of the debt...now i dont have to worry that it will follow me as i am young and do not want problems with my credit. and as for the woman who reported these people...PAY YOUR DEBT ...LOSER !!! you know you owe it ......

i checked that website. it says nothing about the arbitration of any sort of loans. it's actually kind of a broker between employers and benefits company like insurence and such.

They are now using a second phone number, 716-462-6147, based out of Brooklyn, New York and have a fake website.  This is a total scam and ABC did a story on companies like this.  The steal data from pay day loan companies and try to get pay to repay "old loans". File a complaint with the FCC, FTC and internet crimes division of the FBI every time they call.  They get fined for every single call they make. Do not let them bully you!

THEY DO ACTUALLY, IT IS WWW.NCAS.COM

I filed complaints with the FCC, FTC and Internet crimes division of the FBI against this number.  This is a scam to get people with prior payday loans to pay this company.  They want payment with a debit card and have no website or business information listed.  If you get a call from this number, report them immediately.  There is a fine for each call they make and the complaint numbers are listed above.  Good luck!:)

I am receiving calls saying that I am being served a summons for a pay day loan that I owe.  I believe this is a scam,  Check it out if you are getting calls from them as well and report them

my ex-husband got the call first at his new wife number not even in his name.  Then i got the call 3/10.  i have had check advances paid all off with reciepts to prove.  So this is some bull crap

Report EACH call.  FTC Fines are $16,000 for EACH violation, CRTC 15,000 for EACH violation.

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CANADA

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UNITED STATES

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