Received this call at work not for me but for an employee. Name on the id was Tony Sirven esq (who happens to be a lawyer in PA)and the number 305-909-7346 (not Mr. Sirven's).  Gave the number 877-603-7161 to call and an extension 1028 said it was Personal Business and that the person involved had done business with them Identified themselves as National Enterprise Systems - well looked that up and debt collection - the person they wanted is NOT in debt - so guess they will wait until hell freezes over for the return call!

Was called by this number. The claim was I owed money to a Wisconsin utilities Company. I asked for the account number and a phone number of the company making this claim of collections.
I called the number they gave me. I identified myself and the account number given to the utilities company. They had NO record of the account number given. They had nothing on me as far as my name or last known address.
This is a scam!!!

Caller ID shows as 702.529.0783, but message says to call 877.603.7161 National Enterprise Debt Collection

These are minium wage bill collectors. No college or probably High School degree working on commission if they can get you to pay what ever you owe even if your broke ect... They will relentlessly hound you. Get a new phone and that is free advice fro me!

I am seeing that some people are saying this leads to NCO, but I do not think that is correct.  I traced through both companies....National Enterprise and NCO and I find no connection between them at all.  This number definitely leads to National Enterprise.
I would look further into this before you send or call NCO.

I get calls from them all the time too but I don't answer and they leave the message that if it is not me listening I should hang up because the message contains personal and private information.  Then it gives you 3 seconds to hang up.  The goes on to tell you that it is National Enterprise Systems attempting to collect a debt and I should call them back at 8776037161 to discuss this matter.  Well, I look up the number and it does lead to National Enterprise.  So I got their fax number and email address off their site and I am going to send an email telling them no more phone calls and then I am sending a fax also.  I am not spending my money to send them a registered letter.  I will have the email saved and the fax confirmation that it went through.

I got a call from NATIONAL ENTERPRISE SYSTEMS 877-603-7161. I do NOT owe any money anywhere. I have excellent credit. I think they are calling for a relative. This all came from HSBC to Arrow then to a Lawyer who harrassed me. They where real jerks! They actually put it on my credit report even though I showed them proof it was not me!!! I went to my credit reporting agencies and they removed it from my reports because they saw it was not in my name. All was quiet for about 3-4 months. Now I am getting calls from NES. From what I have found on-line...they own Arrow, so I know this is about the same issue. I am not answering the calls. I tried to work with the last lawyer they sent after me and they didn't want to hear anything I had to say. They just threatened to sue me. Not falling for that again.

I talked to one of the reps and asked NCO to stop calling my home.  She screamed at me and told me I should pay my bills and she will continue to call me.  She also cursed and one day NCO telephoned my home 17 times.  I forwared a cease and desist letter.  I received a call from NCO and stated my name would be removed.  However, I am still receiving calls from NCO.  I am going to contact the PA Attorney General because NCO has been sued and they paid the  largest pay out so far.

This is a church, we keep getting calls from this number for someone but I can not understand what the name is.  I listened to the entire message so now I suppose I am doomed to get even more calls.  How can I stop them?

I receive calls repeatedly here at our church.  The message says it is for "Myjay Ketchel" as near as I can understand.  There is no one with that name here or even near it.  How do I get them to stop calling?  I need answers not just a place to vent.
Thanks

hey, thank you guys for you words of wisdom. I am going to send a certified letter, but i am a little unsure as to who I should send it to. I saw an example of the letter in this forum, and it CC'd the FTC, but don't I also need to send it directly to the company? The NCO Financial? Please HELP!!! Thanks :)

STOP CALLING

I received a message listing 877-603-7161 saying I have a debt from Enterprise.  I do not have any bad debt and are not in collection of any kind.  Hearing about scams and always trying to protect myself and my credit I google all numbers and or companies before calling them.  I'm so glad I'm not trusting of every voice on the other end of the phone!
We need to keep other people informed by telling the storys.

actually there is another way to get them to stop calling. It is legal and they can be sued if they violate it. Send them a cease and desist letter, certified mail return receipt, so you have proof for court that they did receive it. Tell them that under the FDCPA, they are to cease and desist all calls to your home, cell, work, and any other 3rd parties, and that they are to contact you by US Mail only. Also, tell them you require proof of debt, and that they send validation of debt, along with proof that they have the right to collect. If they continue to call, document each call, and if possible record them. If you are in a 2 party state, you have to tell them you are recording, but you don't need their permission. Take pictures of the caller ID, if you have it. and never give them any information. Do not admit to the debt, and don't give out your social security number. Most importantly, do not agree to anything over the phone. Do not give them your banking info, and if they offer a settlement, make them put it in writing. If it is a legitimate offer, they should have no problem putting it in writing. This company is famous for its abusive and illegal tactics. They will call and immediately threaten you with a lawsuit and threaten to have you arrested. They identify themselves as calling from the Law Offices of NES. These are all violations of the FDCPA, and if the calls continue after having received a cease and desist letter, each call is a violation. You can sue them in court for $1000 per violation. Any questions on your rights, research Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Be informed, know your rights and fight back. Let's put these a***oles out of business for good. Also, report all violations to the FTC and the Attorney General in your state. If they receive enough complaints, they can sue them and have them shut down.

I have been getting the calls from a "Pat Clark".  It has mostly been a male voice, but today it was a female voice.  Once they even said who they had important business to discuss with.  Most of the time comes up on the caller ID unknown, but once came up with a number of 555-555-5555.  So as far as I'm concerned, it is a bs call.  Just called it and the recording is pleasant enough identifying themselves as National Enterprise Systems.  Told the man that answered that the person that was identified in one call that they were calling for, does not live at this number.  He immediately came back with the name they were calling for.  I was asked for another number for the person they wanted, but told them I didn't have one, and to please stop calling this number.  He said he would take it out of the system.  We shall see.

I have no debt and these calls happen every couple of months and then it seems I am passed off to another company. The debt is for my brother I think and when they ask for a man's name , I just say sorry thats not me. Then they ask do  iknow him, I say No I don't! I ask how they got an unlisted, do not call number and she hung up on me. Unbelievable. this months calls are Pat clarke, Thanks to all of you for helping me feel no alone in this fight. Where is 60 min and 20/20 when you need them Guess I'll try Help me Howard Ch 11, here in NY...

I have caller ID and no outstanding debt.  Daily voice messages on my answering machine with "an important business matter" asking me to call "Pat Clark" at 877-603-7161.  Called  the number, but no way to leave a message or identify the company.

I tried again, and funny thing, it went through!  Debt collecting agency.  Just like the slew of other places that call me asking for someone else, this is the 3rd different name in as many days.  Anyone know a Joe Chin?  a Michael Wisen?  How about an Alecia Winton?  I've had my number for 9+ years.  Never heard of those folks.  If you live in an apt complex you are doomed as they go by address for debt collections and disregard apt numbers.  Been dealing with this crap for 9 months...always different names.  Get them removed, and new ones crop up.  good luck everyone!  you can't do anything to stop it and since they call with a different name each time, they aren't violating dnc.  Just unplug your phone or change your number is about all you can do to stop these calls.

Be very careful on this one.  I have caller ID and no debt.  The call came through at 5:16pm today as "out of area" on the caller ID.  Well, they left a voice mail on my answering machine saying "an important business matter" under the name of "Pat Clark" (as so many others have reported).  Here's the catch though.  1st, I don't have outstanding debt as many on this list claim they do.  In my case, calling that number back with a *69 first to block my number revealed a message telling me to call a 10-10-800 number for $4.99/minute.  I looked this up on the internet and it is all part of a scam to put international toll charges on your phone bill if you dial that number and/or slam you with foreign long-distance charges.  They are faking themselves as a debt collector to get you to dial internationally.  Don't call the international number!  Again, Pat Clark told me to call 1-877-603-7161 and calling that number wants you to dial an international number.  100% scam.

Dan Clark of National Enterprise System is the idiot that keeps calling me. If you do a Google search for "who is 877-603-7161" you will get a bunch of links with lots of complaints!

They have a "F" rating at the BBB. Check out all the complaints here: http://www.bbb.org/cleveland/business-reviews ... on-oh-33000644/

At whocalled.us They have a list of 25 Numbers NES call from. Here is the link and the numbers:
http://whocalled.us/lookup/nationalenterprisesystemsnationalenterprisesystems

National Enterprise Systems | national enterprise systems |
nationalenterprisesystems calls from 25 phone numbers:
800-493-0064 800-925-6143 800-491-0016 800-626-6571 800-235-4153 800-236-2380 800-925-6141 800-925-6140 866-839-0440 800-925-6136 800-234-0228 800-507-8403 800-925-6410 800-236-3796 800-925-6135 800-236-7478 800-261-3182 800-238-0868 866-431-5121 800-243-0002 800-925-6137 800-261-2867 877-603-7161 800-235-1459 734-429-8361

Same idiot calling, I have no debt.

As far as I know this company is a debt collection agency and are the lowest possible form of scum on this planet. If you do answer, be prepared to be lied to and threatened. They will immediately demand full payment or they will sue you.Ask for a name of the agent and the address to send a cease and desist letter to. Report any violations, abusive language or threats to the FTC and the attorney general in your state. Also, record them if you are able to. They are supposed to tell you that they are attempting to collect on a debt and any information obtained will be used for that purpose. If they say they are going to sue, ask if they are a lawyer. If they are not, they are misrepresenting themselves, which is illegal. I am not a lawyer, but am just trying to pass on some advise that was given to me by a lawyer. BEWARE OF THIS COMPANY!!!!!!!!

Calling saying it's Tracy and it's important that I call back at ext. 1617.  I have no debt and recently just checked my credit report/score etc. to be sure my identity had not been stolen.  Is there something more to this company than debt collectors? I had my phone block every call that comes up like this, so now my caller ID just says 'out of area.'  Hopefully I can block it too.  Really annoying!

Just a quick postscript- I talked to the FTC and asked if I should send another cease and desist letter addressing it to NCO. I called NCO and the rude bi*** that answered the phone got all pissy when I told her I was recording her and when I asked for the name and address of the company, she refused to give it to me. I told her that the NY state AG would get it from them and she hung up on me. I called back and this time they gave it to me. I will be filing another complaint with the FTC and the AG for every violation. It is my personal goal to have these b*****ds shut down.

This is the rudest bunch of bottom feeders I have ever encountered. The company is NCO Financial, and they also go by Arrow Financial Services. I have had 2 very rude collectors call me from this company and I can tell you that if they call you DO NOT TALK TO THEM. The first bi*** that called immediately started yelling at me and threatened me that they were going to sue me and garnish my wages and wipe out my bank acct. BLAH BLAH BLAH. I told them that I was aware of my rights under the Fair Debt collection practices act and that I knew that they could not garnish unemployment, which is all I have to live on at this time. I have 3 kids and do not receive child support.( The deadbeat dad just got out of prison for beating up his wife). She kept yelling that yes they could garnish unemployment and that they would get a judgement and take everything I had. She called me stupid and a deadbeat.I hung up on her. I filed a complaint with the FTC and they told me that no they could not garnish unemloyment and that what they did was a violation of the FDCPA. They recommended I also file a complaint with the NY state Attorney General. I filed a complaint with the AG and was told that they did indeed violate the FDCPA by threatening to garnish my unemployment and to wipe out my bank acct and by the abusive language the collector used. They are sending them a cease and desist letter. I sent them a cease and desist letter to stop calling and that all communication be in writing only, also. They received that letter today. I was able to track the letter on the USPS website, and it showed that it was delivered and received by them. Then this afternoon, a guy named Pat Clark called and left a message and a phone number, 1-877-603-7161 to call. I had no idea it was the same agency and I called him back. I recorded the phone call and told him I was recording it. This time they said that they were NCO, and I said that a different agency named Arrow Financial had contacted me about the same debt and they said they were the same company.They were very rude and said that I refused to pay them and had hung up on them the last time that they called. I told them that I hung up because of their abusivie collector and that I would not tolerate being abused. I told them about the unemployment and that I had contacted an atty and that they could not garnish unemployment like they had threatened. He started hemming and hawing and then said that they would offer me a discount if I could pay $800 today, and that I could give them a postdated check. Yea, like I would be so stupid to give them by banking information after they threatened to wipe out my bank acct. I told them to send me the offer in writing . They said that unless I paid then and there that it was like I was refusing to pay, and that  they would sue me. I said to go ahead, and that my atty said I was judgement proof. Again, he started stuttering and then said that my atty was advising me not to pay. I said no that I wanted it in writing and that was what the atty had said to get. They flat out refused. I told them that I had sent a cease and desist letter which I knew that they had received, and they lied and said that they did not get it. I will file more complaints with the FTC and the AG and send another cease and desist letter, this time addressed to NCO. They told me that with a cease and desist that I would not know if they were going to sue until it was too late. I told them to go ahead and serve me, and that I was not intimidated by them. We'll just see if they follow through or if they are just making empty threats, which is another violation of the FDCPA. I am not taking any of their crap, and will not hesitate to sue them for $1000 per violation. I am just trying to let people know what this company is and what to expect. Your best bet is to just not talk to them. If you do, record them, but make sure you tell them you are recording.Send them a cease and desist letter to not call, certified return receipt. Make them prove the debt is yours and is valid, and do not work out any payments with them over the phone. Make them put everything in writing. Do not give them your banking info or your ss#. These people are ruthless and will use every threat they can think of to intimidate you into paying something you cannot afford. Just because you have fallen into hard times and cannot pay, you should not have to take any crap or harrassment. Most importantly, file a complaint with the FTC and the Attorney General of your state. If they get enough complaints, they could shut them down.

Pat Clark called tonight - 1-877-603-7161. I have not idea who he is or why he is calling - I think he is looking for the people that used to have our current phone number.

God help you if you ever pick up the phone.

My caller ID says "Out of Area" - I never pick up a call with that ID.

This lady Gina, ext. 1309 calls my husband and me, several times a day.  Today after I hung up on her, she called back to my husbands work and asked to speak to his personnel office. She is telling us if we don't pay within 24 hours that she will file a judgement and garnish my husbands wages.  I'm taking kelly's actions above and sending them a certified letter to cease and desist.   Sure am glad I foung this site.  We want to pay our debt, but they are being unrealistic and harrassing.

DATE:  
Sent Via Certified Mail
TO:

RE: Cease & Desist Phone Contact
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing in response to your constant phone calls!
According to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act,   [15 USC 1692c] Section 805(c): CEASING COMMUNICATION: You must cease all communication with me after being notified in writing that I no longer wish to communicate with you. Therefore, I demand that you stop calling me at home, at work, on my cell phone or at any other location!
In accordance with the federal FDCPA, now that you have received this "stop calling" letter, you may only contact me to inform me that you:
?    are terminating further collection efforts;
?    invoking specified remedies which are ordinarily invoked by you or your company; or
?    intend to invoke a specified remedy.
Be advised that I am well aware of my rights! For instance, I know that any future contact by you or your company violates the FDCPA and that since you already have my location information, calls made by you or your company to any 3rd party concerning me violates section 805(b)2 of the FDCPA.
Be advised that I am keeping accurate records of all correspondence from you and your company, including tape recording all phone calls. If you continue calling me I will pursue all available legal actions to stop you from harassing me and my family.
Thank you,

FROM:

Address:


CC:  Federal Trade Commission
Consumer Response Center
600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20580
877-382-4357



Rules for collections
?    Collector may ONLY speak to the person that owes the debt or their spouse.  They are NOT able to say to anyone else that they are a calling from a collection agency.
?    Can only call from 8AM to 9PM
?    Can NOT call multiple times in a day ? even if you hang up on them.
?    Can NOT threaten to communicate with any OTHER PERSON other than the debtor (or their spouse) and DEFINATLY not their EMPLOYER.
?    If the Debtor is represented by an attorney, They can NOT attempt further contact with you.
?    It?s the law that a if a debtor notifies the creditor in WRITING that they wish no further communication ? they have to stop, or they will be fined by the FCC.
?    Collectors can NOT threat or use obscene language, or harass the caller
?    Collectors can NOT IMPLY in ANY MANNER that they are an attorney or associated with a legal firm
?    They can NOT represent or imply that FAILURE to pay the debt will result in arrest, wage garnishment or attachment.
?    They can not legally threat any action that they do NOT intent to take, like a lawsuit.
?    The call must disclose their name & the company they are collecting for.
?    They can NOT threaten to report to a credit reporting bureau (your payment is late, it?s already reflected on your credit)
?    They can NOT use false representation or deceptive means to collect on any debt or to obtain information.
**** IMPORTANT: the statue of limitations is 4 years to legally collect on a debt.  Do not EVER admit the debt is yours.  Do not EVER agree to make payments.  If you pay ONE PENNY, or promise, the collection clock starts all over again!!!  

Keep a record of EVERY call.  Get the callers NAME, Company & Address.

Everyday I get a call from a Pat Clark. It is a recording. The message tells me he has a personal business matter to discuss with me. He leaves the number 877-603-7161 and tells me to call. If he has something so important that he needs to call me everyday he needs to leave a detailed message of the personal information he needs to discuss or have a live person call. I do not have any bad debt or unpaid bills he could be calling about. I want these calls to stop.

Haven't a clue who they are.  Call comes up unavailable and I do not answer calls like that. I'm in a debt consolidation program and they are to deal with them.  You can report them to UCAN - the United Consumer Advocacy Council.