I have recieved calls from world group they said.they were trying to serve me papers I need to know if this is a scam or not!

WHY IS THIS ALL HAPPENING, JUST LONG AGO YOU WERE IN SCAM, AND STILL NOW YOU ARE DOING THE SAME AGAIN? DID YOU NOT LEARN FROM ALL OF THIS?
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS HAPPENS AGAIN?

Gee, Ura, you sound like you might be a telemarketer...

FTC just sued a bunch of debt collection LLCs in the Corona CA area.
They are subject to a TRO.

Contact FTC.

Using credit report data to fake debt claims also scams people who owe debt still within SOL.
Just act like all the other debt collectors that have been calling them, and get their money first.
When the original creditor or some legitimate debt collector comes along later, it's just too bad they paid the wrong one.  Pay it again.

Normal debt collection practices are wide open to this sort of fraud, as they routinely attempt to evade validation.

First off, if your supposed to be served with paperwork for court, right off the bat, your probably a deadbeat or person that doesn't handle their business with integrity. Second, then the whole "good luck, its your job to find me" attitude, is a complete lack of backbone, and if male a lack of balls. If you are to be served, handle your business, receive your paperwork and it can be taken up in court instead of online with b***s*** complaints about a debt collector, that calls you out and has to resort to threats and intimidation to get you to handle your debts and bills the way you should have in the first place. It seems only the MAGGOTS, DIRTBAGS, POS complainers and idiots are on here complaining, while I am sure the other people that do pay their debts and confront their issues are much more occupied with more positive hobbies. GOODLUCK to all those complaining like children on here, maybe if you paid your debts, these posts wouldn't exist. By the way, I received a call from these people, looked this up and had to give my two cents on this.

Agree with your first paragraph entirely with one caveat -- people being called for debts they *know* they don't owe will know for sure the call isn't legit and won't pay unless they can be browbeaten into paying it. I'm way less concerned about this group than people with expired debt on their credit record who will be more vulnerable because this group *knows* they've old debts and may not know how to handle persistent collector calls for expired debt. Ex-debtors with expired debt are way more vulnerable to scammers than debt-less people.

How much did they take your for?

Check your credit reports and look for a recent credit file inquiry.  That appears to be how they size up their victims and get information on old accounts.  Also look for any "promotional" inquiries that don't look like recognized banks or credit card companies.

Contact FTC and the Riverside office of the FBI.

file a complaint with the FBI and the AG in your city. we got scammed badly by these extortionists, and we've learned a valuable lesson. file with the BBB, any and everyone who will listen.

Who is the owner?

Welcome to the Corona Scam.

They fake "debts" by using information obtained by illegally pulling your own credit reports, then make fake "process server" calls to your relatives to create the appearance they have "sued" you, to get you to call them back in a panic.

Their goal is to panic you into paying them to "settle" the "lawsuit" without ever providing any proof of the alleged "debt", or that you owe them.

Their call to your great grandmother was intentional, done for it's psychological impact on her, and through that, to pressure you into paying without question.  Their threats of "prosecution" fit the same goals, to pressure you into paying this "settlement".  The claim to be "filing criminal charges" is all ridiculous, of course, but this is an extortion racket, not collection by a legitimate, legally compliant debt collector of some "debt" you actually owe.

Impersonating law enforcement and threatening arrest have been part of their MO from the beginning, although that pattern appeared to moderate somewhat.  Recent consumer complaints (within the last several weeks) have reported that they have racheted up their aggressiveness, including mailing of "court documents" that were not, and "collecting" on alleged "unpaid taxes", both of which would increase the risk of the authorities nailing them.  Not clear, but this may indicate some particularly malicious crook has recently joined the operation.


Check your credit reports (particularly Experian), and you will probably find a recent credit inquiry under one of their many names (maybe Prime West, AF Group, PMG, ARM, HGG, and possibly others).  Your credit report gives them enough information to size you up for how much they might get from you (they can see your available credit card credit), as well as possible old accounts they can pretend you "owe" to them.

Contact FTC, your state Attorney General, the California Attorney General, the Corona Police Department, and the Riverside office of the FBI.

I received a frantic call today from my 87 year old great grandmother saying that some man claiming to be a process server is trying to track me down to serve me. Apparently, he was pretty aggressive and got her pretty upset telling her I would be arrested. This was the FIRST time I have ever had knowledge that anyone was trying to contact me. I immediately called "Kevin" back, but ended up talking to a "Frank". I explained my concerns about him contacting my great grandmother and using scare tactics and asked him not to contact her again. He said that I seemed to be more concerned about my grandmother then I was about the debt....well DUH!!! I explained to him that I was not avoiding responsibility but that I had moved to go to school and had not received anything in the mail or any phone calls in regards to the supposed law suit (I had my mail forwarded for a year). He told me that he would continue to call her until I dealt with this. Now correct me if I am wrong but I thought the FCC had laws to prevent harassment from people like this. This is where is gets really twisted. He then proceeds to tell me that he "hopes my little old grandmother falls off of her stool and his her head" !! I kid you not!! This man said those exact words. I lost it and in the heat of the moment cursed him up and down. I think he got a kick out of it and start laughing and saying "Oh I can see I hit a nerve on that one". I hung up on him and with a few seconds received a call from him. I answered and he said "that call was being recorded I hope a tornado hits your trailer park. I'm filing criminal charges against you with the DA for threatening me."...and then he hung up on me. I called back and asked to speak with a supervisor. Obviously, this never gets anywhere b/c I ended talking to another guy, "Mr. Silva" who proceeded to play "good cop bad cop with me". He said that Frank had already contacted the DA and was pressing charges and that maybe he could somehow calm the situation if we could agree on how to settle the debt by 6 pm today. Now, doesn't sound ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!  He told me that would summon me tomorrow at my employer and that I would go to court and that based on my income they would withhold 20-24% of my gross pay. Then he went back to the original debt and tried to convince me to settle for $1700 rather then the $4000 that I would owe if it went to court. He told me to call him back by 6 today or else I would be served tomorrow and that he would talk to "Frank" and tell him that I am cooperating and that hopefully he would drop the threat charges against me. I started doing some research and came across multiple sites where there was complaint after complaint against this company. People had similar experiences and were told the same thing. Many say its a scam and that there were collection companies posing as process servers threating law suits unless they are willing to settle the debt that same day. I'm contact an attorney to get to the bottom of this. I find it disgusting that they use such aggressive tactics and feel the need to threaten people and insult their relatives. I don't how these people sleep at night. I'm done dealing with these hooligans.

You must be an AF paid shill...tsk tsk.

yeah i just tried to get them to stop calling and they back talked me and hung up... i would have to say this sounds like a scam company.

yeah the "paralegal" called me a stupid "b" because i told him that i didnt owe that debt anymore. also said i had no common sense and that i was going to go to jail have my dl suspened and wages garnished if i didnt pay. atty gen in my state said that even if it did go to court they cannot do ANY of those things. this company is not even licensed for debt collection in TX. so on the advice of my attorney general...they can keep trying but will never get any $ or information from me. atty general has also opened an investigation and plans on prosecuting.

they threatened me with jail time, suspended drivers license and garnished wages. after speaking with a lawyer and the attorney generals office i found that even threatening these things is completely illegal. the attorney generals office said that they cant serve anything without something already being filed in court (which there has not been) they have also claimed that hanging up on them is "a federal offense" also wrong according to the attorney general. they are attempting to collect a debt from me that was written off 4 years ago. i have read a lot of these posts and only few of them are sincere. the rest seem to be ppl in either bad moods or ppl affiliated with the scam tactics of this agency. our attorney general recommended to me that i do not pay them a single cent or give them ANY information about myself. as they have already committed illegal acts against me. they also said that they would be able to prosecute against them if they had enough on them. so you may want to file a complaint. good luck!

Beagle Boo

god will save you. hahhaha

Be aware that when you pay some debt collector for a fake "debt" you don't owe or they don't have any right to collect, you aren't paying off anything, just being scammed.  You might as well just take your money and burn it.  At least it would have kept you warm.

Be aware that there are increasing reports of fake debt collection scams using this phony "process server"/"threatening calls to relatives"/"alleged lawsuit"/"settlement offer"  (with NO VALIDATION) M.O.

It may be months to years before these con artists are caught and prosecuted, so don't expect to get your money back if they con you.  It probably went right up their noses.  

Best place for them is in prison, where they belong.

They only have to find the ones who don't know any better, and will fall for the con.  They get help from Experian, who sells them credit reports.

This is what the BBB advises on legit versus fake debt collectors http://www.bbb.org/us/article/bbb-advises-con ... and-phony-26492

Indications from patterns of complaints against their many names are that they are pulling credit reports and using old account information to fabricate the appearance of some old delinquent debt.

They also routinely call relatives first (indicating access to skip-trace services), as they pretend to be a "process server" as part of pretending they are suing you.

The ripoffreport above reports that both the process server call, and the call back number, connect to the same boiler room in Corona CA.

Contact the Corona Police Department and the Riverside office of the FBI, to report this attempt at defrauding you.

I don't know rather or not  this legal or scam but the guy told me he could stop the summon today with one phone call if I pay what owe.hummm????He said" I can you call my law enforcement station and stop a summon over the phone"? I lived thousands mile away. I believe this scam! They call my sister phone in which is a prepaid number. She did' t have this number when i so called "created this debt" so I did not provide this number as reference.They had a old address not current. So, yes this scam! they just trying to fill in the missing puzzle pieces because they only had bit of pieces of information, hoping you provided the rest.

I don't know rather or not  this legal or scam but the gut told me he could stop the summon today with one phone call if I pay what owe.hummm???? I can you call my law enforcement station and stop a summon over the phone? I lived thousands mile away. I believe this scam! They call my sister phone in which is a prepaid number. She did' t have this number when i so called "created this debt" so I did not provide this number as reference.They had a old address not current. So, yes this scam! they just trying to fill in the missing puzzle pieces because they only had bit of pieces of information, hoping you provided the rest.

Here is a report from a job applicant of what their boiler-room is like.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/collection-agency-s/rincon-management-se/rincon-management-services-joh-53e2f.htm

Another shill.

Companies that set out to run illegal fraudulent scams often use many names to hide the level of illegal activity under each name, so they can operate under the radar of the authorities as well as BBB.  

There are a number of consumer complaints reporting that on contacting the Corona Police, they found that numerous complaints are being forwarded to the local FBI office.

File complaints with FTC, your state Attorney General, the Corona Police Department, and the Riverside office of the FBI.

Such a scam, they must really think people are stupid.  Process servers do not call ahead. I was called by someone who gave me this # and was looking for my wife. He gave me this phone # and a "case number". When I asked which court this was from, he said I would have to call the number to find out all the details. If you're a collection agency, then just tell me that and I will talk to you. Don't try to scare me by giving me a case number and saying that there is a court case pending. Only an idiot would fall for that line.

I, too got my money back by going through the proper channels.. Go Ellen!!

Sounds like you got nowhere!!!!!   All those phoney statements you made against REAL bill collectors attempting to get you to give back the money you stole!!  You are slanderous!!!
***** ALERT TO ELLENS PEERS:  Legitimate companies don't have time to respond to every frivolous coMplaint that comes in from a DEADBEAT trying to get out of paying their bill. ELLEN IS A LIAR!!!  Ellen got nowhere in her crusade because only fake and scam businesses get put out of business-- not real ones like this. As you see by her own admission she was stonewalled in her effort. LISTEN LISTEN--- Ellen doesn't tell all of what you need to know, she only says what you want to hear: "It's o.k. to NOT pay- here's how"!!   Well, Ellen you LOST!!!   You still owe the original bill it will go back into recovery and you will be approached again by someone about your blown off obligation. Well, we kicked Ellen to the curb- who's next?!