who is this

I started getting a call from a number that did not show up on my caller ID as Unknown Name and Unknown Number. The first time the phone rang, I answered it.  I get this Oriental man's voice, starting in on me about a PayDay Loan and a case. I didn't have any idea of what this goofball was ramping about. He starts threating. He fishes for information.  I hung up, and then he kept calling, and then he started leaving messages on my answering machine, which I still have two of his calls.  I turned off my answering machine, and then somehow he got my Cell phone number, that I barely use or give out.  He left the same message.  He says his name is Shaun Anderson and his heartline number is (951) 651-1308. I never called it, but got the phone co. and cell phone company to.  It just rang. Now of course I tried the reverse number, but it's not available.  If I wanted to continue, it would cost me. I don't feel I should have to pay to contact a scammer, and another thing, I don't want to give this sick individual any encouragement, yet I don't have the funds to just throw it away on what! Something that this individual claims which isn't true, and one has to listen to his threats.  It's terrible when someone can try and scam people, and the poor innonesence individuals can't use their phones, or things they pay for because of these sick people that evidently haven't a life, or their job is,  harrassing people and trying to scare or threathening them.  These scammers usually don't speak good english, and appears they aren't from here. They should be sent back to where they came from. They can't even speak good english, and they really are stupid. So has anyone got any new information on this individual or phone number.  I found out, it is a landline (located in Hemet) and the city appears to be San Jacinto CA County Riverside and the carrier is Pac-West Telecomm. Inc-CA

omg i got a call today from a 951-755-1878 and the person tells me i owe money from a payday loan and he want the contact of my attorney..i never took any payday loan but this guy has all my information like my address ssn and place of work..i have bank statements and everything to prove it..and he starts talking about a court case..what is goin on

I got a call from a guy who sound foreign saying he works for the New York civil court in dept of fraud investigations. telling me that there filing illegal action against me for online cash advance and  that i never did, and that i commit fraud. well i did my own investigations, the call was 925 281-4623 area code which lead me to PAC-West telecoms, inc somewhere in Antioch, Ca. I then was told to call this guy back at 206 456-0569 which lead me to International telecoms LTD in Seattle, Wa, he told me that he was with the New york civil court fraud dept of investigations. which doesn't exist this is scheme all the way. What do these people think there trying to pull.

I got a call from a guy who sound foreign saying he works for the New York civil court in dept of fraud investigations. telling me that there filing illegal action against me for online cash advance and  that i never did, and that i commit fraud. well i did my own investigations, the call was 925 area code which lead me to PAC-west telecoms, inc somewhere in Antioch, Ca. I then was told to call this guy back at 206 456-0569 which lead me to International telecoms LTD in Seattle, WA, he told me that he was with the New york civil court fraud dept of investigations. which doesn't exist this is scheme all the way. What do these people think there trying to pull.

Yes, I got my first call 02/09/2010, and answered the phone. I may of talked to the same oriental male voice, that couldn't speak good english.  He started raddling on, and I said I don't have any idea of what you are talking about.  He started to threatening me, and I hung up. He called back, and soon as i saw on my caller ID Unknown Name and Unknown Number, they left message (robot call) as they call it I believe. It was a recording. He did this several times, and then proceeded with my cell phone. (same message) He leaves a same of Shaun Anderson and leaves the number 9951) 651-1308 and if I don't call back then he threatens more. I wasn't going to call this joker back. But I have notified the FBI and all the other reports about these telamarkers and those of us who are targeted by extortionists. It's a landline, in Hemet San Jacinto CA Phone Carrier: Pac-West Telecomm. Inc. CA County: Riverside But understand these are scammers and they fish for more information. I tried the reverse lookup, but don't fee I should have to pay for what they call a Free person or telephone search. Which may turn out to be nothing anyway. If the police and FBI etc. can't find these scammers then how can we with the limited access to public records. That is another thing, the false advertising of what is to be free and it isn't. You have to give your Credit card number out first and it you can cancel anytime, but there is always a hassle over that too. Even the Gov't is in the job of getting money for free reports (that aren't free at all).

Thanks for the information do you think that we should change our bank #.  Has anyone ever had a company like this take money out of there account?

Same thing happend to me.  Now they probably will call from another number like 562-684-2016.  I wish that something could be done.

LONG RUNNING AND KNOWN SCAM - ALL OVER INTERNET AND NEWS

Fake Debt Collectors ? Terrorizing Consumers

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1


MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html   latest release of information on this scam

http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
Attorney General Darrell McGraw took the extraordinary step today of warning the public about a band of scam artists making threats to consumers who allegedly obtained Internet payday loans in West Virginia and across the nation. The consumers they threaten never obtained a loan at all or paid it off years ago.

Internet payday loans are short-term loans or cash advances, usually for 14 days, made over the Internet via interactive web sites and secured by an agreement authorizing debits of the loan and all fees owed from the consumer?s checking account. These loans typically charge interest rates ranging from 600-800 APR and are unlawful in West Virginia.

The scam artists, who speak English with a foreign accent, call themselves ?U.S. National Bank,? ?Federal Investigation Bureau,? ?United Legal Processing? and numerous other phony names. They refuse to disclose real names and addresses and are believed to be operating ?off the grid? from homes, automobiles, or from off shore locations or foreign countries, including India. Since the scammers have kept themselves purposely well hidden, thus far no law enforcement agencies have succeeded in locating or shutting them down.

The scammers typically pose as law enforcement officers, investigators, lawyers, and bankers and threaten consumers that they will be arrested for ?bank fraud? or other fictitious crimes unless money is wired immediately. They simultaneously scare and confuse consumers by using meaningless legalese gobbledygook phrases such as, ?We are downloading warrants against you? or ?We are filing an affidavit against you.? Consumers who don?t immediately fall for the scam are warned, ?Only God can help you now.?

The scammers almost always call consumers at work several times a day, and tell their supervisors, ?Your employee has committed fraud and is about to be arrested.? Such threats have proven unsettling even to the most savvy consumers and employers who suspect the calls are fraudulent.

Attorney General McGraw stated, ?Ordinarily my office protects consumers from fraudulent activities by seeking injunctions in court. But legal action cannot be taken until the scam artists can be located. Even then, it is unlikely that the persons behind the fraudulent calls and extortionist threats would obey a court order. In this case, the consumer?s best defense is to be armed with the knowledge of the scam so that all demands for money can be resisted, despite the false but scarey threats of arrest.?

McGraw added, ?Because the fraudsters make a special point of calling consumers repeatedly at work, employers must understand that the consumers are innocent victims of a criminal enterprise and cannot stop the calls from coming. I also wish to assure the citizens of West Virginia that my office will continue to do everything possible to locate and shut down the outlaw debt collectors.?

More information about this fraudulent debt collection scheme is available at the Attorney General?s website, www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam. Any consumers who have been threatened by these persons or wish to file a complaint about another consumer matter may do so by calling the Consumer Protection Hot Line, 1-800-368-8808, or by obtaining a complaint form from the Attorney General?s web site.

It's a debt collection scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.
This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobblygook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.
A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com
A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )
Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-954-678-9724
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-610-571-3252
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-499-9983


Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors
By Leslie McFadden ? Bankrate.com
Monday, Aug. 3
Posted 2 p.m.
Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.
This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.
The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.
What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.
"The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.
Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.
The BBB offers these tips:
?    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt.
?    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call.
?    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
?    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.

I received a call AT WORK yesterday saying that I owed money to InstaCash for a payday loan. (Never had one.)  This person knew my bank account number, mother's maiden name, all of my personal information.  He then started to tell me that I had committed a crime and that charges were going to be DOWNLOADED against me.  (Where do they do that?)  I told him that I would not speak to him any longer and hung up.  Today someone called and left a message for me while I was at lunch. My co-worker who is aware of the situation, told them that I would call them after I called the FTC.   I called the number back to tell them that I had already reported them to the FTC, FCC, and trying to find a way to report them to the FBI.  To my surprise the number does not work anymore!! It sounds like a non working cb radio or something.  This is definetly a scam, the Federal Banking Assocation does not exist.

Thanks for the feedback.  LOL!!!  very good ideas.

You said for 2 years.  wow.  Have they ever called any of your references because they have my information?  Crooks!

Got a call on my wifes phone lastnight. Its a scam these people will tell you they are downloading a case against you. For 3 federal crimes that dont exsist. I dont know that much about law enforcement but they usally dont download a case against you. Anyway just blow them off. I have been dealing with these people for about 2 years know. What I do is call back everyday tell them you a reporter for the United States Federal Press and drill them with questions and get as much info out of them as possiable then pass that on to the FTC. Then if you want to have fun with them call back every 5 mins and just blast them with realy loud, and at the end of the call say Thank You come Again.

Has anyone else received a call from this number?  I had an fight with the foregin speaking gentlemen.  he had a lot of my information.  I told them that I was calling my lawyer and he would call them back.  When I tried to call back it is a verizon wireless number (cell phone).  I reported it to the Federal Trade Commission.  I will be reported it to the FBI, police department and Better Business Bureau.

Is this the first time that you have received the call?

I just received a call 10 mins ago
too. I'm so sick of these people.

received a call that i owe a payday loan that i never received.