646-389-0933
NY, US
The Rock
The Rock
2012-03-08 00:15:47
Unknown
I recieved the same phone call. Love the way they have the noise in the background to make it sound like other jack***es are there. Patrick Davis, really what foreign jack*** has a name like Patrick Davis and he was choking up when I started talking law etc. with him then the little s_it hung up.
Beary
Beary
2011-06-06 20:53:31
Unknown
Got a call from these "jerks".  Couldn't understand them because of their heavy accent.  When I would ask them specific questions they wouldn't give it to me.  And the more I kept telling them I couldn't understand them, they would eventually just hang up.  I even asked them to send me the so call documents and they said they couldn't.  They need to be reported!
Stacy
Stacy
2011-06-06 20:53:31
Unknown
Did they ever send you anything??? They are trying to contact me as well and I cannot understand a word they are saying either....and they won't mail me anything so I am just wondering if he is just saying that over the phone or if it is true
cookie
cookie
2011-06-06 20:53:30
Unknown
These people keep calling me from an unknown id &  unknown number sometimes it even shows up as international. There is some guy with a heavy accent you cant even understand him stating he's some officer and I need to get back to him regarding a legal matter and he can't leave any information on voicemail. There's so much noise going on in the background I cant understand what company he identifies himself as I don't know how they got my house & cell numbers.
MS. FORD
MS. FORD
2011-03-17 20:59:13
Unknown
THEN YOUR STUPID, THEY USE NAMES OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY.......THATS THE WHOLE SCAM.....WELL ATLEAST I KNOW WHO TO CALL IF I NEED SOME EXTRA CASH.....
Kelli
Kelli
2010-12-06 04:23:47
Unknown
OK, yes I received a call from in Nov. 2010 201-632-1912 claiming he was officer Michael Walker claiming I had a payday loan from 2009 and if I did not pay it would go to court and that it could be up to $5000.00 in court fees, this is the third person that called me with an strong Indian accent with different numbers. These people need to get caught, trying to scare you and making these claims
Stefan
Stefan
2010-11-01 18:28:24
Unknown
I just got a call from 201-632-1912. A guy with heavy Indian accent claiming to be an Officer Josh Russell with the FBI. Saying that I have to contact him within 48 hours, "before something goes wrong with you"

I totally assume its a scam, or it would have been the most unprofessional FBI phone call in the history of the bureau.
C
C
2010-10-22 19:22:29
Unknown
I just got a call from the same # 201-632-1912 From Officer Bob Cooper harassing my work and call my cell phone
J
J
2010-10-08 00:21:29
Debt Collector
I just got one from 201-632-1912, Officer Patrick Davis. I went to the police station and the officers there had me call. I have my local, county, and state police looking for this a** clown. I even called my family lawyer, as soon as I find this guy I'm pressing nine kinds of charges.
The Saint
The Saint
2010-09-21 22:10:13
Unknown
For at least the last four years, possibly longer, a group has been calling former payday loan applicants advising them that they have defrauded a bank and are now being sued for non-payment of a loan.  The callers will claim to be calling on behalf of an attorney's office (name varies), the Dept. of Law and Investigation, ACS, or other similar combinations below:

United Legal Processing Division
Midline Marketing
Crime Monitoring Services
Monetary Crime Division
U.S. National Bank
Attorney General?s Office (usually in California)
American Legal Services
Affidavit Consolidation Services (ACS)

You will be threatened with arrest, a costly trial and possibly worse.  In no shape, way or form can you be arrested for non-payment on a consumer debt.  Do not believe these threats, as they are without merit and cannot be carried out in the manner they allege.  

Who are they?

In the past when pressed by law enforcement for an address, the callers have provided the following information:

David Morgan and Associates
Morgan & Associates
Morgan Associates
954-727-8481
1155 Northwest 85th Street
Wintergarden, Florida  33150
(Address is likely invalid)

The collector's MO matches a once legit collections agency called Ellis Crosby & Associates.  Here are some links on them:

http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/ellis_crosby_and_associates.htm
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/EllisCrosbyJudgment.pdf

They have been previously fined over $1.3 million for various violations.  They have been known to use phone banks in India to make their calls, which more or less coincides with the difficult to understand accent many of us detect when we are contacted.  

The last time this group went by any "official" name was back in 2008:

Ellis Crosby & Associates / Douglas & Morgan Associates
4494 Southside Boulevard Suite #200
Jacksonville Florida 32216
Phone:  800-928-3536 / (904) 928-3536
(Address is likely invalid)

There are NUMEROUS consumer alerts out against this group of individuals:

Florida:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/061107/met_176207561.shtml

Kansas:  
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html

Colorado:  
http://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/ ... lls_likely_orig

Rhode Island:  
http://www.collectionscreditrisk.com/news/rho ... -3002135-1.html

West Virginia:
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm

Missouri:
On July 15th, 2010 a Public Awareness Bulletin was sent out by Missouri Information Analysis Center.  

"..received reports from individuals in Ohio and Illinois reference suspicious telephone calls they received. In both instances, the callers are reporting that a voicemail is received from a man, with a Middle Eastern accent, identifying himself as an officer working with the Financial Crimes Unit.  The message indicates that the reason for the call concerns a loan made by the receiver or someone in the receiver's family. The voicemail requests that a return call be made and a telephone number is provided. When a return call is made, the caller is asked to provide personal identifying information such as their date of birth and social security number.

Reports indicate that the calls are frequent and persistent and that they even threaten arrest or legal action if information or money is not provided. It appears that the individuals making these calls may have access to some records connecting individuals and their relatives.  Missouri does not have a Financial Crimes Unit and all indications are that this is a fictitious agency. If you receive a similar phone call, please be advised that it is a scam and please contact your local law enforcement agency or the Missouri Information Analysis Center at 866-362-6422."

Bottom line:

Do not supply the callers with any additional information.  Inform them you have reported them to law enforcement and hang up.  If you haven't already, go ahead and report the calls to local law enforcement, your state's Attorney General and beyond.  Look up the local Secret Service branch's information in your area and get in contact with an agent there.  

If you ever applied for a cash advance online, your information is out there.  
Possible sources for the breach of your privacy are:

* The scammers obtained your information from Teletrack - a reporting agency used by many cash advance lenders to determine their risk lending to you.  The service is able to tell cash advance lenders if you have existing loans with other companies, for example.  Many state laws prohibit borrowers from having more than two cash advances out at the same time.

* The scammers created their own fake payday loan application site.  People looking for a cash advance went to the site and applied, thus freely providing the scammers with their information for malicious use at a later time.  

* The scammers were able to get into the database(s) of cash advance lenders - probable targets being Sonic Payday and Cashnet USA.  


How to protect yourself:

* Inform your employer.  You are likely getting calls at home and/or at work, so make sure your employer is aware the calls are part of a scam and to not take them seriously.  Advise the callers that they are no longer allowed to call you at work.  If they continue to call, document the date and time of the calls you received.  Save voice mails left if at all possible.  

* Change your number(s).  For some this may not be an option, for others a one-time number change can be done free of charge.

Be advised - any references you listed on your payday loan application will be contacted.  Let those people know that this is a scam, and they can disregard.

* Use Google Voice.  Google Voice is a great replacement voice mail system for just about any phone number you use.  Messages can be transcribed and voice mail recordings can be saved as mp3 files.  

Pro Tip - call the scammers with a Google Voice number before turning off your old phone numbers.  Make sure when you call you identify yourself so they can start up their script.  At any point after they have your information pulled up just hang up.  They will then start religiously calling your Google Voice number.  At this point, you are free to change your regular phone number(s) and enjoy not having these people ever call you again.  (And laugh at the fact these people are basically talking to a brick wall several times a day)

The scammers change their numbers frequently.  Law enforcement used to think it was because the callers ran out of minutes on their prepaid wireless accounts or they were shuttered due to fraud, but now they understand it's simply to evade detection by savvy consumers online.  With the proliferation of VoIP, it's even easier for the crooks to stay a couple of steps ahead of law enforcement.  Below is just a sampling of the 30+ numbers that have been used in recent memory.

1-201-244-7722
1-209-349-7382
1-209-797-2212
1-212-500-0839
1-213-256-0408
1-213-995-3039
1-281-763-0433
1-347-289-3902
1-347-844-6817
1-347-844-6831
1-424-354-4270
1-516-232-8905
1-516-232-8935
1-518-212-0219
1-561-300-8018
1-561-210-4185
1-626-200-4646
1-631-456-4041
1-646-274-1143
1-646-810-8635
1-650-241-4604
1-707-401-4056
1-707-633-2789
1-708-401-0535
1-716-442-2824
1-717-862-4080
1-718-705-8669
1-760-514-0132
1-760-563-5384
1-772-318-4938
1-850-201-1111
1-858-777-1977
1-859-908-2281
1-866-860-4509
1-877-226-7488
1-888-706-7463
1-888-771-9249
1-888-785-4479
1-909-327-4870

So can they really do anything to you?

It's not a simple yes or no answer.  Logic dictates that, if they really wanted to take you for a ride and drain your bank accounts, they already would have.  

So, why haven't they?  

Authorization.  

Why do you think you are being called so much?  Perhaps it is because they like the sound of your voice?  No, they have to have your authorization to take any form of payment from you, period.  The callers know their audience, and that audience is typically a bunch of people that have applied for payday loans in the past.  Most of those people they call couldn't afford an attorney if they wanted one, and are so used to receiving collections calls that so long as they sound like a real collector, they will likely be perceived as one.

Furthermore, they don't even really want to talk to your attorney - that just sounds official and scary enough.  A real attorney would take the callers to task and write them off as two-bit con artists.  The callers need you, in writing, to authorize payment against the fictitious debt they claim you owe.  Go ahead, ask them for proof you owe the debt - more commonly known as verification of debt.  See what they say.  A phone authorization carries very little weight, so if they have something signed by you on file, you are done for - and the callers know that.  That authorization is the only thing these callers are doing by the book, and for good reason.  If they just went all willy nilly and made an ACH debit from your checking account, without your written approval, you could in turn report the transaction as fraudulent to your financial institution.  In about 7-10 business days, you would get the funds returned to your account.  Then the scammers would be up against a bank and their team of lawyers and investigators.  

Bottom line:

If you haven't paid the callers a dime, don't.  If you planned on paying them to shut them up, just don't.  Remember - you are not being contacted by a legally licensed, ethically owned and operated collector.  Read up on the FDCPA - http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre27.pdf - and know your rights.

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143/3
someone who is not taking your  crap
someone who is not taking your  crap
2010-09-21 21:28:33
Unknown
You guys are being monitored by the BBB and the law is coming after you a***oles. So have fun in prison for the harrassment, the phone calls, and the crap you think you are getting by with and if you were anything but pieces of s*** and actually listened to what you were saying and how you have worded EVERYTHING you say and have sent, people know you are full of S*** and its all a scam have a good life behind bars.

Good Bye
Sharon
Sharon
2010-09-14 18:32:13
Unknown
So...how stupid do you think we are? You can't even use proper English! How obvious it is that you work with the scammers!!!!!!
Sharon
Sharon
2010-09-14 18:31:22
Unknown
I too have been receiving harassing phone calls from this phone number claiming to be a police officer. They say that I owe on a payday loan that I never took out. They tell me that I need to pay within 24 hours or I will be arrested. When I request additional information they get violent and threaten me with harm and threaten to have me arrested. Well we all know that even if I did legitimately have a debt, I can't be arrested for it! So needless to say, I told them to go ahead and send the cops for I know this is a scam! This person claiming to be "Officer Richard Hill"  (he is middle eastern of some sort) and he calls my work 7-10 times a day and even goes as far as telling my co-workers that it is regarding a legal case file against me! Well, I called my local police department and filed a complaint. The REAL officer told me to contact the FTC and file a complaint. The more complaints the better because it is a Federal manner. We need to complain so we can get these middle easterners to stop scamming America!

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/
mark
mark
2010-09-10 16:58:39
Unknown
mrs patrick is a honest person he really call me from a legal division . i has  investigate . i found that he is a officer of a legal division . and i has pad them $920 .
danielle chavez
danielle chavez
2010-09-08 19:36:59
Debt Collector
we received the same phone call my husband got the call called the bank checked called me i called the Scammers and was really worried and frustrated thank god yall posted this online i really was scared thank goodness i didnt give in totheir threats of suing arrest and fines too pay
LAMET
LAMET
2010-09-08 15:27:49
Unknown
"Real bill collectors dont threaten you"  

While this caller is a KNOWN SCAM -

your statement about real debt collectors is not entirely true.

SOME REAL DEBT COLLECTORS DO MAKE THREATS - its illegal to do so - but SOME do it anyway.  Usually the JUNK DEBT COLLECTORS!
lamet
lamet
2010-09-08 15:24:03
Unknown
PROTECT YOURSELF!  IMPORTANT INFORMATION YOU MUST READ ? HOW THE SCAM WORKS AND WHAT AGENCIES TO REPORT THEM TO

LONG RUNNING AND KNOWN SCAM ? ALL OVER INTERNET AND NEWS FOR  2 YEARS NOW


Fake Debt Collectors ? Terrorizing Consumers
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1

MORE ON FAKE DEBT COLLECTORS
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html  
http://consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/07/video_bill_collector_scam.html  WITH VIDEO!  
http://consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/09/fdic_debt_collector_scam.html  9/7/2010 -NEWEST CONSUMER ALERT ?SCAMMERS NOW CLAIMING TO BE WITH FDIC

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
1.    The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
2.    Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
3.    File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
4.    File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.wvago.gov
5.    File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:


http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-771-9249   Scammer posting here as GARY and GARRY JONES
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-860-4509   Scammer posting here as Mike Henderson
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-500-0839   Scammer posting here as Ricky
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-244-7722   Scammer posting as Carole, David Brown and Amanda
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-626-200-4646   Scammer false postings at this new number as silshan kanniue and Tina ? preparing a new number to use.
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-424-354-4270   Scammer false postings as Rose
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-785-4479   Scammer posting as Robert
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-909-327-4870   Scammer false postings as Marry
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143   Scammer false postings as Karen Miller, Chichi and Tom Little
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-561-300-8018   Scammer false postings as Marco Polo and Covenant
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-226-7488   Scammer false postings as SAM, David S
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-706-7463   Scammer false postings as George
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-209-349-7382   Scammer false postings as Towanda Robinson, Shannon Walsh, Jack Dawson and Cynthia
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-760-514-0132   scammer false postings as Suzy01, Johanna Hall, Cindie McMellon, Michael Dublin, Mark Williams, Carol and Rio   (800notes removed some of the scammers posts because the all came from the SAME IP ADDRESS)
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-209-797-2212   scammer false posting as Jaison Connar
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-707-401-4056   Scammer false posting as John Carner, KSR
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-650-241-4604   Scammer false postings as jhon and Kevin
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-708-401-0535   Scammer false posting here as JHON
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-518-212-0219  Scammer false posting as Prince Christian, Arpit
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-705-8669  Scammer false postings as Alicia
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-707-633-2789  Scammer false postings as Rojer, Minni, Rhone, Smith, Lisa Jack, Julie, Sean, and Carol. ? preparing a new number to use to steal money
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-205-294-6271  Scammer false posting as Thomas Jhonson
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-661-263-4011  Scammer false posting ?ILLEGALLY claiming to be an attorney Charles F Robinson
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-321-684-4117  Scammer false posing as Harry Patt
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-518-565-0306  Scammer false posting as Wellvishers
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-791-4673  Scammer false posting as Sherrie Ann and Elvine Buris
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-305-390-0607  Scammer false posting as James and Mark
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-209-349-3112  Scammer false posting as Roger Brown. David Macrow and Andrew
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-360-1702 Scammer false posting as STATE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-850-254-8883  Scammer false posting as Stella
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-347-875-8165  Scammer false posting as Lisa L Johnson, Mark Taylor

Scam alert: Bogus debt collectors
By Leslie McFadden ? Bankrate.com
Monday, Aug. 3
Posted 2 p.m.
Bankrate reporter Leslie McFadden contributed this entry.
This scam isn't technically about credit cards, but it is scary enough to post a warning. The Better Business Bureau issued an alert today saying consumers across the country are getting phone calls from bogus debt collectors claiming default on a payday loan. Of course, the consumer needs to pay a large fee to avoid arrest -- as much as $1,000.
The caller poses as a lawyer, and may threaten extradition to face trial if the consumer doesn't pay up immediately.
What makes these calls alarming -- and perhaps convincing -- is that the perpetrators reference the consumer's personal information, such as the person's Social Security number, driver's license number, previous bank account numbers, home address -- even personal references.
"The amount of information they have is really troubling," says BBB spokeswoman Alison Southwick. She adds that the amount of data points to a possible security breach.
Spread the word to your friends and family: Don't give out personal or financial information to an unknown caller. Scammers can spoof Caller ID to display different numbers, so trust your instincts over technology.
The BBB offers these tips:
?    Ask the debt collector to provide official documentation which substantiates the debt.
?    Do not provide or confirm any bank account, credit card or other personal information over the phone until you have confirmed the legitimacy of the call.
?    File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission online if the caller is abusive, uses threats or otherwise violates federal telemarketing laws or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
?    File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau online if you believe a debt collector is trying to scam you.
shots
shots
2010-09-08 15:19:53
Unknown
a foreighn speaking man said he was officer mike patrick sometimes hes mike anderson   or mike smith  keeps calling my work and harrassing all that answers  my boss told him not to call but he said he will call as much as he likes , i am  being investigated for fraud and   who knows what else, cant understand him,  I have no outstanding payday loan i have checked my account and no such deposit was made, you cant get one with a debit card (account now visa) what a  dufus!!  Its a scam do not give them any info I have reported it to the police , He threatens to send the police to my work, well bring it on cause your a scam and i know it. They do scare enough people to  get them to send money but dont fall for it. Real bill collectors dont threaten you.  OR tell you they are coming to arrest you, one time i was told  "dont look out your window "now whats that suppose to mean, thats BAD...
AC
AC
2010-09-04 02:31:44
Unknown
Wow just got calls from "Officer Mike Davis" that sounded more like an Abdi Ganush or some Indian type name. Scariest part is he called my neighbor too and had ALL my data!  Better luck next time Douche Ganush!!
WRS
WRS
2010-09-03 19:53:46
Debt Collector
Same type a phone call he had all my info.but I did not call him back because I knew it was a scam and file a police for fraud
ACR
ACR
2010-09-02 15:56:30
Debt Collector
I recieved the  exact same call as Betty! EVERYTHING she said, "Patrick Davis" told me!! WEIRD!!!!!!!! Make sure you all file a police report!!!
Betty
Betty
2010-08-27 20:27:07
Unknown
I just received a call from A officer Patrick Davis (with a foreign accent) telling me he is with the New York Financial Crime Division Badge # 78652 case # MF 5142 that I owed a company called Cash Net America. I have never used that company and I explained that I will going to my bank closing all my accounts becuase fraud and hung up the phone on him. He called me back saying ma'am, did you hang up on me. I told yes and if he needed to contact me again not to call my work since it is my write. Plus I am going to do my owen investivation.
TWYNN
TWYNN
2010-08-20 20:06:45
Unknown
I received a call from the number the guy said that his name was Jake Tyler calling from the US Government Finance and said that i took out a payday loan with a US National Bank(payday loan) they guy had a indian accent and advised to me that i could settle out of court for $698 or go to court and with fees pay $2700 he had all of my information listed as far as ssn, banking information, address and drivers license # and said that this money was put into my account and i never paid the money back well i am a georgia residence and they don't allow payday loans in georgia, i assume he got my information from the internet, i have never heard of this company and never applied for a payday loan, and yes i must admit he had me scared up for a minute and advised that i could do a western union but didn't give me the western union information. WOW what a waste!!!!!!!!!
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