Hi i am an escort and got contacted by this number .. The Guy prentend to hâve a huge House and book me to go see him for 3 hours... So i finally take a cab and spend 50$ Of cab to go see him and he was pretending that he was going to pay for my cab. Then i finally got here and see a Nice House with a Nice benz amg in front ... I go at the door then no answer. Was at 85 montgomery rd in Etobicoke Toronto . Then an other show up to in the same time ... Then an other one right after ... Then this Guy text me " you a hoe " " i see you from my window i dont even live there " ... Personally i know i dont do the greatest job ever but it was really disrespectfull to hâve waist my time and make me spend money for nothing. Then today i Just saw all those things reported to this number. I wish him that karma Will hit him back.

I had enough of this guy. I'm considering deeply filing a law suit to Western Union. Considering their policy is they need ID IN PERSON. And he has walked through their doors doing it many many times and if not it is ILLEGAL for him to do otherwise, which IS their policy. I hope I bleed them dry since they're letting him take away everyone's money and I have a good bet it's an inside job. And you can COUNT on the fact that they have surveillance and they are NOT PERMITTED TO DENY the police the right to view them either. Either way, western union has broken their policy. And if any of you want your money back, you can take them to court for it. LYING ON THEIR POLICY IS FALSE ADVERTISEMENT.

Just got the same email everyone else got as a reply to my kijiji ad for a house in Ottawa, Ontario.
the scammer replied to me using a NEW email address, marktolz13@yahoo.ca and now apparently it's "Mark and Kate" so beware. He's still using his western union pick up line...eye roll. I googled his email etc initially but couldn't find anything and actually almost fell for it! But we were iffy so emailed him directly asking him if he's a scammer (lol) ... he replied sounding offended (lol again|) with this email:

Hi,
In my 45 years in life i have never had of such in my life there was never a situation whereby someone is thinking negative about my family the way you did today...I and Kate was just saying how nice and assuring each of your messages are and all of a sudden those negative responses.

First of all i am a respectable man with a respectable family and 2 lovely children with the most supporting wife so you thinking about us this way is absolutely disturbing,displeasing, beleaguer and burn us up.I have seen someone get in trouble for collecting tenant information and once someone else tampered with the info elsewhere they suspect you because they gave you their info so I'm not interested in this and just need to know if you have the money and serious that was why i choose the method i explained which reveals no personal info and you are not making any transfer to me but to someone you know and by doing this you are assured your money is not going anywhere and still within you simple.

At this point i had a discussion with my wife Kate and we both believe you do not sound serious because we explained our situation and disappointments we've gotten from people in the past in my previous messages to you and we do not need someone who is not serious at this point..

You will never get another offer such as this and the reason we are renting is not because of the money but we need someone to be in our property while we are not there..Failure to hear from you soon might make us change our mind and diverge our attention elsewhere.

Looking forward to hearing from you asap.
Mark and Kate









... you'd think a guy who owns such a beautiful place as the pics he showed would know how to spell/type correctly...


thank god we didn't send the money..... im sorry to hear others weren't so fortunate.

SAME SAME Scam today from Lethbridge.  He replied to my Wanted: Rental add on kijiji.  Thanks for this site, but sounded so possible that I can see why desperate folks would fall for him.  Can he be stopped?  I reported the scam in process and said I would help in any way and won't reply to the creep until I hear from the officials (Canadian Anti Fraud Center).  Reporting the scam was difficult on the site and I had to register and it probably took me 15 mins which I don't really have to spare.  Kijiji was even more difficult to report and I don't think my point really got through to that site.  I don't know how he can be stopped and he really hasn't commited a crime on me and thanks to this site he wont!  

here is is current addy:  menziiiito13@yahoo.ca

And what did the police say?

This guy just sent me an e-mail through Menzzzito13@yahoo.ca with the exact same e-mails but for Lethbridge. I did research however, and found this website. This is absolutely disgusting! He is using an address in Lethbridge and there is people living in that house! If you receive and e-mail by Menzzzito13@yahoo.ca claiming to be Martin and his wife Kate do NOT FALL FOR IT! :(

Sent my friend who was looking for an apartment an almost identical email:

Hi,
I spoke with my wife and we have come to the conclusion that we should give attention to your offer out of the numerous responses we get..The rent is $2300 (First Payment)and the refundable deposit is $1150.I want you to know that all Bills are inclusive in the rent so you are not paying any extra fees.We are hard working couples and we want you to know we are not so keen about the rent but more concerned about who we rent our property to because we need serious offers and a clean tenant.

My property was in the hands of the agency for years and i realize that all they care about is there commission and not getting the right person in....i and my wife decided we will handle things our self henceforth.We have been messed around by people who are not serious and we are not ready to deal with someone who isn't serious and clean.

I presently live 3 hours away from my property on (11902 87 Ave NW, Edmonton, Division No. 11, Alberta T6G 0Y3) and i will have to drive down 3 hours to meet with you so you see i wont be needing someone who isn't serious..The house is presently available for rent and i can reserve it for you if you act fast.You'll have your own privacy without anyone interfering in what you do.

As i said before that the house is a beautifully styled and spacious 5 bedroom plus a den in the house with boasting gorgeous floor throughout,with a 24 hour broadband Internet ready if you have a computer, Its got a very Magnificent fully fitted kitchen, sleek and stylish fixtures and fittings throughout, newly renovated and modern bathrooms and a com-bi boiler gas and a laundry washer and pet friendly house and a large backyard...Presently i have a resident who is leaving in few days but i wouldn't like them to be disturbed as i have had cases like this before and this is why i and Kate(My wife) has decided to take you their ourselves as the owner to avoid confrontation.

My property was purchased a couple of years ago and have worked hard to maintain it.I can show you my property anytime but i have to see a proof of seriousness first as i said i have been messed around a lot of times and have to be sure you have the money before coming down...I am also not ready to run credit check on anyone or ask for Bank info to confirm there well-being because its your Privacy and i don't intrude into people personal life.

Just last week some couple reached and they told me they are ready and capable not knowing they aren't serious because they ended up begging for me to rent to them and they will pay me weekly which i do not want so you see owning and having a good property is one thing and the other is getting the right person so we need proof of funds before meeting with you or reserving our property for you.

Read this carefully, To provide us with proof of funds and attitude of seriousness...Kindly go to any Western Union Money Transfer outlet and you should send the amount of $2300(Rent)to your Partner or any member of your family or your friend through Western Union Money Transfer and the receipt given to you which shows the evidence of funds transfer between you and whoever you choose to send it to just like the sample attached to this message at the western union transfer outlet after the transfer is done is okay for us as an evidence of your capability,seriousness and also stands as the ONLY reference i need NOT bank statement,Credit check or any personal work info as it reveals too much about you and this is suppose to be personal.

The point of the Western Union Transfer Receipt is that myself and Kate will confirm the validity of the receipt with Western Union and after our confirmation we will email you back immediately to go get your money back so with this procedure you are rest assured that your money isn't paid out to us before renting because we will only accept money from you when we have signed/exchanged rental agreement form with keys handed over to you.

We will be responsible for the Western union transfer charges for the transfer as we might deduct it from the rent if we reach an agreement on the renting by deducting it from the rent when you are about to move in or we will refund it back it back on the meeting/viewing day(Your Choice). The little charges is nothing compare to driving down 3 hours with my family and facing all the embarrassments we've experienced from different time wasters in the past.

Who ever you make the transfer to could collect the money back at any western union outlet around anytime after we confirm the transfer receipt because this gives full assurance that money wasn't borrowed from somewhere and collected back right there when it was transferred.

Note again that we are NOT asking you to send or make any transfer to us through western union..Let me know if this could be done asap so that i can make reservation paperwork and arrangements for our meeting.

I have attached the sample of the Western union transfer receipt proof i requested above to this message so that you can see the simplicity of what is required.Hope you understand perfectly.
Kind Regards
Martin and Kate


He is using the email menzito13@yahoo.com and phone number  17805665337
This is a SCAM!!!! the pictures he sent of the house do not match the actual place of the address he sent. Going to contact the police today or tomorrow and hopefully get this guy shut down.

I wish I would have found this in time. I am a victim of this exact scam. We fell for it. We were desperate to find a place. Bla bla bla. You know how it goes. And now we are f$&(ked. Thousands we were scammed for. My question is how do we make this top of the list when someone googles Martin Henry. I had to do a lot of digging to find your post. Now we wait to see if anything can be done. I'm very doubtful.

ship guy has been trying to rent this house. 11902-87ave in Edmonton. his email is martinhenry13@yahoo.com. and goes by Martin and Kate. phone number 7805667335 I believe it was. scam! scam! scam! he wants a western union transfer to prove we have the funds. and so on.  he goes on to describe the house as above postings to the letter. stay away from this deal of your lifetime. he a landlord does not want to speak on the phone, or meet in person before any financial discussion comes up, stop! run away.

i got this email from Kate and Martin Henry...

Hi,
I spoke with my wife and we have come to the conclusion that we should give attention to your offer out of the numerous responses we get..The rent is $1300 (First Payment)and the refundable deposit is $1300.I want you to know that all Bills are inclusive in the rent so you are not paying any extra fees.We are hard working couples and we want you to know we are not so keen about the rent but more concerned about who we rent our property to because we need serious offers and a clean tenant.

My property was in the hands of the agency for years and i realize that all they care about is there commission and not getting the right person in....i and my wife decided we will handle things our self henceforth.We have been messed around by people who are not serious and we are not ready to deal with someone who isn't serious and clean.

I presently live 3 hours away from my property on (4039 Meier Avenue, Drayton Valley, AB) and i will have to drive down 3 hours to meet with you so you see i wont be needing someone who isn't serious..The house is presently available for rent and i can reserve it for you if you act fast.You'll have your own privacy without anyone interfering in what you do.

As i said before that the house is a beautifully styled and spacious 3 bedroom plus a den in the house with boasting gorgeous floor throughout,with a 24hour broadband Internet ready if you have a computer, Its got a very Magnificent fully fitted kitchen, sleek and stylish fixtures and fittings throughout, newly renovated and modern bathrooms and a com-bi boiler gas and a laundry washer and pet friendly house and a large backyard...Presently i have a resident who is leaving in few days but i wouldn't like them to be disturbed as i have had cases like this before and this is why i and Kate(My wife) has decided to take you their ourselves as the owner to avoid confrontation.

My property was purchased a couple of years ago and have worked hard to maintain it.I can show you my property anytime but i have to see a proof of seriousness first as i said i have been messed around a lot of times and have to be sure you have the money before coming down...I am also not ready to run credit check on anyone or ask for Bank info to confirm there well-being because its your Privacy and i don't intrude into people personal life.

Just last week some couple reached and they told me they are ready and capable not knowing they aren't serious because they ended up begging for me to rent to them and they will pay me weekly which i do not want so you see owning and having a good property is one thing and the other is getting the right person so we need proof of funds before meeting with you or reserving our property for you.

Read this carefully, To provide us with proof of funds and attitude of seriousness...Kindly go to any Western Union Money Transfer outlet and you should send the amount of $2600(Rent+Deposit)to your Partner or any member of your family or your friend through Western Union Money Transfer and the receipt given to you which shows the evidence of funds transfer between you and whoever you choose to send it to just like the sample attached to this message at the western union transfer outlet after the transfer is done is okay for us as an evidence of your capability,seriousness and also stands as the ONLY reference i need NOT bank statement,Credit check or any personal work info as it reveals too much about you and this is suppose to be personal.

The point of the Western Union Transfer Receipt is that myself and Kate will confirm the validity of the receipt with Western Union and after our confirmation we will email you back immediately to go get your money back so with this procedure you are rest assured that your money isn't paid out to us before renting because we will only accept money from you when we have signed/exchanged rental agreement form with keys handed over to you.

We will be responsible for the Western union transfer charges for the transfer as we might deduct it from the rent if we reach an agreement on the renting by deducting it from the rent when you are about to move in or we will refund it back it back on the meeting/viewing day(Your Choice). The little charges is nothing compare to driving down 3 hours with my family and facing all the embarrassments we've experienced from different time wasters in the past.

Who ever you make the transfer to could collect the money back at any western union outlet around anytime after we confirm the transfer receipt because this gives full assurance that money wasn't borrowed from somewhere and collected back right there when it was transferred.

Note again that we are NOT asking you to send or make any transfer to us through western union..Let me know if this could be done asap so that i can make reservation paperwork and arrangements for our meeting.

I have attached the sample of the Western union transfer receipt proof i requested above to this message so that you can see the simplicity of what is required.Hope you understand perfectly.
Kind Regards
Martin and Kate



SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My friend just posted this today! New email is martinshenn1@yahoo.ca under the name Martin and Kate (/Henry Martins?) for 115 Woodglen Pl Okotoks, AB T1S 1L2 .

"From: Henry Martins [mailto:martinshenn1@yahoo.ca]
Sent: January-10-13 11:22 AM
To: [ -- name redacted]
Subject: Read carefully/Wayforward to reserve my property for you

Hi,
Just was about sending you another message and your message popped up..Hope this email meet you in good health..Just for you to know we are not too keen about how much we rent out property out...we are more concerned about getting a clean and serious person in our property because getting a dream tenant is priceless.

We can reserve it for the period you need it that is not a problem and we do not consider the that as a criteria of who is serious or not but if you are able to get what we requested for then we can reserve it for you no problem.All bills included(Heat,Water,Sewer,Garbage,Free WiFi if you have a strong computer)

Everything is perfect with my property health wise because my wife works as a supervisor at Holiday Inn and you know what that means...She makes sure all is clean and neat and this is why we not only need a serious person in our property but a clean and neat person too.

My entire house is Apx 2800 Sq ft.....The Master bedroom is en-suite and the dimension is 15.09 x 13.75 the other can take 2 Queen size bed space that's just an example of how spacious my property is....Its fenced and we are looking at both long term and short but we prefer to rent to long term offers.

Just last week some couple reached and they told me they are ready and capable not knowing they aren't serious because they ended up begging for me to rent to them and they will pay me weekly which i do not want so you see owning and having a good property is one thing and the other is getting the right person so we will like to take you to our property our self.

We have accept to only $1700 Monthly for rent with $1000 Deposit and nothing above that because money is not everything but getting the right people in our property.I presently live 3 hours away from my property on and i will have to drive down 3 hours to meet with you so you see i wont be needing someone who isn't serious so because i live 3 hours away i will be needing the below proof before i make a trip to come show you my property or before i can reserve my property for you.

Go to any Western union transfer outlet,make a Western union money transfer of $2700 to your friends name or partner or relative or someone you know as i explained before,the agent will give you a similar form attached to this message to fill or the agent might just do it on there system and hand the receipt over to you.In this form you will see a Sender and Receiver column,Fill your name if you are the one making the transfer as the sender and Fill anyone you know maybe your friend or relative or partners name as the Receiver not me.

We will be responsible for the Western union transfer charges because we might deduct it from the rent before you pay us when you are about to move in or we will incur it back when we meet(Your Choice)..I will not waste 4 hours drive all for nothing and we do not want to be messed around anymore.

The reason why i asked you to send it to someone you know is because you will be rest assured that you didn't pay me before moving in and you can get your money back from the receiver who is someone you know immediately after our meeting you can ask whoever you made the transfer to go and pick the money from Western union so your money is not going anywhere but going back to you and you will only pay for rent when you are about to move in.

As i said before that i do not intrude or inter fare into peoples personal or private life..I see no reason why landlords like us should be asking to run credit check,Pay stubs,bank statements of account to see you are financially buoyant and some other personal details from tenants who are looking to rent a house...I believe doing this is intruding into peoples personal life and renting just a house should have noting to do with this.

After making the transfer send a scan copy or take a picture of the receipt with your phone as proof ,send it to my email and we can make arrangement for meeting at your most convenient time and once this is done then we can reserve our property for you for the time you need it and hand you over reservation paperwork.

We might hand our property keys over to you when we meet for you to be rest assured that we will not be dealing with another person but your will only start counting from the day you move in not the day we are going to hand the keys over to you and you will also pay us when you are ready to move in.

If all sounds good then we are fine proceeding with you and looking forward to having a good landlord/tenant relationship with you.
Martin and Kate

Note that if i do not hear from you between Today/this weekend with the Western union transfer receipt then i might see your response as you are not serious so hearing from you today with the Western Union Transfer receipt proof will make us reserve our property for you and once we confirm all is okay with the transfer then we will email you back to go ahead and get your money back and we can make arrangement for meeting asap."

((This was via Kijiji not a number, so I just copy pasted a number from up thread))

His new email is Rob_nelll@yahoo.ca

Hey there, here is a copy of the email i got from Rob and Kate Nelson
Hi,
I spoke with my wife and we have come to the conclusion that we will rent our property to you....The rent is $1000 (First Payment)and the refundable deposit is $1000.I want you to know that all Bills are inclusive in the rent so you are not paying any extra fees.We are hard working couples and we want you to know we are not so keen about the rent but more concerned about who we rent our property to because we need serious offers and a clean tenant.

My property was in the hands of the agency for years and i realize that all they care about is there commission and not getting the right person in....i and my wife decided we will handle things our self henceforth.We have been messed around by people who are not serious and we are not ready to deal with someone who isn't serious and clean.

I presently live 3 hours away from my property on (2705 Jerring Mews, Erin Mills, Mississauga, ON) and i will have to drive down 3 hours to meet with you so you see i wont be needing someone who isn't serious..The house is presently available for rent and i can reserve it for you if you act fast.You'll have your own privacy without anyone interfering in what you do.

As i said before that the house is a beautifully styled and spacious 2 bedroom plus a den in the house with boasting gorgeous floor throughout,with a 24hour broadband Internet ready if you have a computer, Its got a very Magnificent fully fitted kitchen, sleek and stylish fixtures and fittings throughout, newly renovated and modern bathrooms and a com-bi boiler gas and a laundry washer and pet friendly house and a large backyard...Presently i have a resident who is leaving in few days but i wouldn't like them to be disturbed as i have had cases like this before and this is why i and Kate(My wife) has decided to take you their ourselves as the owner to avoid confrontation.

My property was purchased a couple of years ago and have worked hard to maintain it.I can show you my property anytime but i have to see a proof of seriousness first as i said i have been messed around a lot of times and have to be sure you have the money before coming down...I am also not ready to run credit check on anyone or ask for Bank info to confirm there well-being because its your Privacy and i don't intrude into people personal life.

Just last week some couple reached and they told me they are ready and capable not knowing they aren't serious because they ended up begging for me to rent to them and they will pay me weekly which i do not want so you see owning and having a good property is one thing and the other is getting the right person so we need proof of funds before meeting with you or reserving our property for you.

Read this carefully, To provide us with proof of funds and attitude of seriousness...Kindly go to any Western Union Money Transfer outlet and you should send the amount of $2000(Rent + Deposit)to your Partner or any member of your family or your friend through Western Union Money Transfer and the receipt given to you which shows the evidence of funds transfer between you and whoever you choose to send it to just like the sample attached to this message at the western union transfer outlet after the transfer is done is okay for us as an evidence of your capability,seriousness and also stands as the ONLY reference i need NOT bank statement,Credit check or any personal work info as it reveals too much about you and this is suppose to be personal.

The point of the Western Union Transfer Receipt is that myself and Kate will confirm the validity of the receipt with Western Union and after our confirmation we will email you back immediately to go get your money back so with this procedure you are rest assured that your money isn't paid out to us before renting because we will only accept money from you when we have signed/exchanged rental agreement form with keys handed over to you.

We will be responsible for the Western union transfer charges for the transfer as we might deduct it from the rent if we reach an agreement on the renting by deducting it from the rent when you are about to move in or we will refund it back it back on the meeting/viewing day(Your Choice). The little charges is nothing compare to driving down 3 hours with my family and facing all the embarrassments we've experienced from different time wasters in the past.

Who ever you make the transfer to could collect the money back at any western union outlet around anytime after we confirm the transfer receipt because this gives full assurance that money wasn't borrowed from somewhere and collected back right there when it was transferred.

Note again that we are NOT asking you to send or make any transfer to us through western union..Let me know if this could be done asap so that i can make reservation paperwork and arrangements for our meeting.

I have attached the sample of the Western union transfer receipt proof i requested above to this message so that you can see the simplicity of what is required.Also attached is a copy of bills in our property showing its handled by myself and Kate so you wont be paying extra.Hope you understand perfectly.
Kind Regards
Rob and Kate Nelson

He's still doing it I reported it to the edmonton police and the anti fraud. Going to report to kijiji!!!!!!!!!

New number though 5879267753


Hi,
I spoke with my wife and we have come to the conclusion that we will rent our property to you....The rent is $1100 (First Payment)and the refundable deposit is $1100.I want you to know that all Bills are inclusive in the rent so you are not paying any extra fees.We are hard working couples and we want you to know we are not so keen about the rent but more concerned about who we rent our property to because we need serious offers and a clean tenant.

My property was in the hands of the agency for years and i realize that all they care about is there commission and not getting the right person in....i and my wife decided we will handle things our self henceforth.We have been messed around by people who are not serious and we are not ready to deal with someone who isn't serious and clean.

I presently live 3 hours away from my property on (3436 142 Avenue Northwest, Edmonton) and i will have to drive down 3 hours to meet with you so you see i wont be needing someone who isn't serious..The house is presently available for rent and i can reserve it for you if you act fast.You'll have your own privacy without anyone interfering in what you do.

As i said before that the house is a beautifully styled and spacious 2 bedroom plus a den and in the house with boasting gorgeous floor throughout,with a 24hour broadband Internet ready if you have a computer, Its got a very Magnificent fully fitted kitchen, sleek and stylish fixtures and fittings throughout, newly renovated and modern bathrooms and a com-bi boiler gas and a laundry washer and pet friendly house and a large backyard...Presently i have a resident who is leaving in few days but i wouldn't like them to be disturbed as i have had cases like this before and this is why i and Kate(My wife) has decided to take you their ourselves as the owner to avoid confrontation.

My property was purchased a couple of years ago and have worked hard to maintain it.I can show you my property anytime but i have to see a proof of seriousness first as i said i have been messed around a lot of times and have to be sure you have the money before coming down...I am also not ready to run credit check on anyone or ask for Bank info to confirm there well-being because its your Privacy and i don't intrude into people personal life.

Just last week some couple reached and they told me they are ready and capable not knowing they aren't serious because they ended up begging for me to rent to them and they will pay me weekly which i do not want so you see owning and having a good property is one thing and the other is getting the right person so we need proof of funds before meeting with you or reserving our property for you.

Read this carefully, To provide us with proof of funds and attitude of seriousness...Kindly go to any Western Union Money Transfer outlet and you should send the amount of $2200(Rent + Deposit)to your Partner or any member of your family or your friend through Western Union Money Transfer and the receipt given to you which shows the evidence of funds transfer between you and whoever you choose to send it to just like the sample attached to this message at the western union transfer outlet after the transfer is done is okay for us as an evidence of your capability,seriousness and also stands as the ONLY reference i need NOT bank statement,Credit check or any personal work info as it reveals too much about you and this is suppose to be personal.

The point of the Western Union Transfer Receipt is that myself and Kate will confirm the validity of the receipt with Western Union and after our confirmation we will email you back immediately to go get your money back so with this procedure you are rest assured that your money isn't paid out to us before renting because we will only accept money from you when we have signed/exchanged rental agreement form with keys handed over to you.

We will be responsible for the Western union transfer charges for the transfer as we might deduct it from the rent if we reach an agreement on the renting by deducting it from the rent when you are about to move in or we will refund it back it back on the meeting/viewing day(Your Choice). The little charges is nothing compare to driving down 3 hours with my family and facing all the embarrassments we've experienced from different time wasters in the past.

Who ever you make the transfer to could collect the money back at any western union outlet around anytime after we confirm the transfer receipt because this gives full assurance that money wasn't borrowed from somewhere and collected back right there when it was transferred.

Note again that we are NOT asking you to send or make any transfer to us through western union..Let me know if this could be done asap so that i can make reservation paperwork and arrangements for our meeting.

I have attached the sample of the Western union transfer receipt proof i requested above to this message so that you can see the simplicity of what is required.Also attached is a copy of bills in our property showing its handled by myself and Kate so you wont be paying extra.Hope you understand perfectly.
Kind Regards
Rob and Kate Nelson


Hi,
  Just was about sending you another message and your message popped up..I want you to know that we are more particular about who we rent to and not how much we rent our property out because getting a dream tenant is priceless so we have agreed to rent it for $1100 a month plus $1100 as long as you will be neat and serious.

We are respectable people and this is why we want people with self respect in our property..We can reserve it for the period you need it that is not a problem and we do not consider that as a criteria of who is serious or not but if you are able to get what we requested for then we can reserve it for you no problem.

My entire house is Apx 2400 Sq ft.....The Master bedroom is en-suite and the dimension is 15.09 x 13.75 the other can take 2 Queen size bed space that's just an example of how spacious my property is....Its fenced and we are looking at both long term and short but we prefer to rent to long term offers.

Also we noted before that we will be incurring back whatever charges used to make the transfer...This is nothing compare to what we have faced in the past and i well noted that the amount we are renting out our property is way lesser than the effort we put in it so getting the right person is most important to us and not the charges.

Either you take our property or not we are refunding back the charges on our meeting day..We have few offers but we choose just one that our instinct allows us to and that is why we are talking to you about our property and not that we lack people who are interested in doing the above.Renting out a property with higher amount is one thing and for the property to be in safe hands is another thing.

An example is a friend of mine who renting out his property to some people who do a lot of partying in the house and got to a day one of them left the cigarette on the sofa and burnt down his entire house so you see experience matters a lot..I would rather i lose the charges than lose my entire property so try to understand where we are coming from at the same time...I do not take peoples bank info as i do not need to know what you are worth before renting my property to you...This is disclosing too much info and i am not a party to this and never support landlords doing such.

My wife Kate also own a property in Edmonton where my in-laws are now and they know what it takes to keep a clean environment and never had any regret with them.

As for maintenance in my property i already stated that all bills are included in the rent as my wife Kate handles all this...Lawn/Environment are cleared by the house keeper which we pay for and you are responsible for your own interior but bills are handled by us...We do not believe in leaving this to the tenant as its our property eventually so we handle this situation.

Note that if i do not hear from you between Today/Tomorrow with the Western union transfer receipt then i might see your response as you are not serious..Remember i never asked you to make the transfer to me...You can make it to your friend or anyone you know and after the transfer is made i will confirm the validity of the transfer and once its confirmed and okay then we will email you back to ask whoever you made the transfer to go and collect your funds back and keep it and we can make arrangement to meeting at your most convenient time and we can now talk about payment.

I'll be at work so you can send me a text and i can reply easily to whatever question you wish to ask but i do not give my number out to be abused this is why i always prefer to see the Western Union Transfer receipt proof before answering any calls to proceed...Hope all is clear now and i look forward to your prompt response.
Rob and Kate
5879267753

His game is not over. Emailed me today. On phone with the anti fraud center I got emails and texts phone number of the address he sent me bills etc. basterd is going down

I also was just almost scammed by this guy. same exact scenario. I have just talked to my brother inlaw who is OPP.. I will be calling to report him to the fraud police.  Why isn't Western UNion doing anything about thier policies?

i just received one like this with different prices yesterday, glad to know i didnt do what they asked , and now i know it was bull, thanks every one

He is attempting to run this scam in Hamilton as well!!  Same 'form' email sent to me, I emailed him back and told him to get lost and that he should be ashamed of himself! I hope he gets caught

I just got one of his scam mails today.

Western Union money transfer at the Money Mart on 300E Taunton Road, Oshawa
Bell TV bill

Obvious mod on dates and name, but the account numbers are actual.  (stealing from the garbage)

Have contacted Bell and Money Mart.

If someone contact the RCMP in March as per above and we are now into november it would seem the RCMP are useless, and we need to take matters into our own hands.  We need to put together as much info as possible.  email addresses (katen701@yahoo.ca) so please if you have info, post it here.

Lets get this scumbag.

You said "luckily we will be refunded our money".  Who is refunding it, Western Union?  My son just got scammed and he's in London.  When I called Western Union I was told he is out of luck.  I can't believe I didn't google this scum bag before my son did the transfer.  I had a very bad feeling about this and it came true.  See as you said you will be refunded I'm just wondering how and by who.

I received the same two emails from this guy and did some research of my own.  I actually phoned the named listed on 411 for the address this Rob Nelson gave me.  Gee....the real owner of the house didn't know his home was for rent.

The scam with the Western Union receipt is this: All you need to claim money from Western Union is the number on the receipt, the sender of the money and the amount of the money.  Seeing as we are supposed to send Rob the receipt that clearly indicates the number, and he knows the name of the person sending it and the exact amount of the money., He makes arrangements to meet you, but tells you NOT to pick up the Western Union money until AFTER he meets you.  That then gives him enough time to go HIS local Western Union and pick up YOUR money, then never shows up for the meeting!  Although he is scum and needs to be stopped, it is quite ingenious!  Please call the Anti-Fraud center in your Province.

Holy Macaroni, that is exactly the same email I just received, except the money amount is different and the town is different.  Exact same email addy too.  What a scammer.  Thank godness for my Police training.  Now time to catch this creep!

I posted an ad on kijiji looking to find a 3 bedroom home to rent in my area. I live in the small town of Essex, Ontario. This guy sent me an email saying that he had owned a home and was renting it out. I replied asking for details. This is the e;mail I received:

Hi,
I spoke with my wife and we have come to the conclusion that we will rent our property to you....The rent is $900 (First Payment)and the refundable deposit is $900..I want you to know that all Bills are inclusive in the rent so you are not paying any extra fees.We are hard working couples and we want you to know we are so keen about the rent but more concerned about who we rent our property to because we need need and serious people.

My property was in the hands of the agency for years and i realize that all they care about is there commission and not getting the right person in....i and my wife decided we will handle things our self henceforth.

We have been messed around by people who are not serious and we are not ready to deal with someone who isn't serious and clean.

I presently live 3 hours away from my property on ( 16 Delmer Crescent South, Kingsville, ON N0R 1B0)The house is presently available for rent and i can reserve it for you if you act fast.You'll have your own privacy without anyone interfering in what you do.

As i said before that the house is a beautifully styled and spacious 3bedroom in the house with boasting gorgeous floor throughout,with a 24hour broadband Internet ready if you have a computer, Its got a very Magnificent fully fitted kitchen, sleek and stylish fixtures and fittings throughout, newly renovated and modern bathrooms and a com-bi boiler gas and a laundry washer and pet friendly house and a large backyard with a finished basement...Presently i have a resident who is leaving in few days but i wouldn't like them to be disturbed as i have had cases like this before and this is why i and Kate(My wife) has decided to take you their ourselves as the owner to avoid confrontation.

My property was purchased a couple of years ago and have worked hard to maintain it.I can show you my property anytime but i have to see a proof of seriousness first as i said i have been messed around a lot of times and have to be sure you have the money before coming down...I am also not ready to run credit check on anyone or ask for Bank info to confirm there well-being because its your Privacy and i don't intrude into people personal life.

I'm not asking you to send the $1800 to me but you should send to your friend or any member of your family or your Partner through Western Union Money Transfer and the receipt given to you at the western union transfer office is the ONLY reference i need NOT bank statement,Credit check or any personal work info as it reveals too much about you and this is suppose to be personal.....The little western union charges for transfer will be deducted from the $1800 before you pay me on the meeting day so you are not losing anything.

Who ever you make the transfer to could collect the money back at any western union outlet around on the viewing day or after the viewing day because this gives full assurance that money wasn't borrowed and collected back right there when it was transferred.

Note again that we are NOT asking you to send or make any transfer to us Via western union..Let me know if this could be done asap so that i can make reservation paperwork for you.

I have attached the sample of the Western union proof i requested for to this message so that you can see the simplicity of what is required and it reveals no personal information and you aren't transferring the money out to me but to someone you know which means you are getting it back and will ONLY pay the rent when i have the keys over to you...Hope you understand perfectly.
Kind Regards
Rob and Kate Nelson


After reading this e:mail I questioned him on a variety of things that were red flags for sure. He replied to me with a 2nd email saying this:
Hi,
Just was about sending you another message and your message popped up..Hope this email meet you in good health..Just for you to know we are not too keen about how much we rent out property out...we are more concerned about getting a clean and serious person in our property because getting a dream tenant is priceless.

Everything is perfect with my property health wise because my wife works as a supervisor at Holiday Inn and you know what that means...She makes sure all is clean and neat and this is why we not only need a serious person in our property but a clean and neat person too.Yes all bills are included in the rent so you will not be paying any extra.

My entire house is Apx 2600 Sq ft.....The Master bedroom is en-suite and the dimension is 15.09 x 13.75 the other can take 2 Queen size bed space that's just an example of how spacious my property is....Its fenced and we are looking at both long term and short but we prefer to rent to long term offers.
Just last week some couple reached and they told me they are ready and capable not knowing they aren't serious because they ended up begging for me to rent to them and they will pay me weekly which i do not want so you see owning and having a good property is one thing and the other is getting the right person so we will like to take you to our property our self.

We have accept to only $900 Monthly for rent with $900 Deposit and nothing above that because money is not everything but getting the right people in our property.I presently live 3 hours away from my property on and i will have to drive down 3 hours to meet with you so you see i wont be needing someone who isn't serious so because i live 3 hours away i will be needing the below proof before i make a trip to come show you my property or before i can reserve my property for you.

Go to any Western union transfer outlet(Walmart/Money Mart),make a Western union money transfer of $1800 to your friends name or partner or relative or someone you know as i explained before,the agent will give you a similar form attached to this message to fill or the agent might just do it on there system and hand the receipt over to you.In this form you will see a Sender and Receiver column,Fill your name if you are the one making the transfer as the sender and Fill anyone you know maybe your friend or relative or partners name as the Receiver not me.

We will be responsible for the Western union transfer charges because we might deduct it from the rent before you pay us when you are about to move in or we will incur it back when we meet(Your Choice)..I will not waste 4 hours drive all for nothing and we do not want to be messed around anymore.

The reason why i asked you to send it to someone you know is because you will be rest assured that you didn't pay me before moving in and you can get your money back from the receiver who is someone you know immediately after our meeting you can ask whoever you made the transfer to go and pick the money from Western union so your money is not going anywhere but going back to you and you will only pay for rent when you are about to move in.

As i said before that i do not intrude or inter fare into peoples personal or private life..I see no reason why landlords like us should be asking to run credit check,Pay stubs,bank statements of account to see you are financially buoyant and some other personal details from tenants who are looking to rent a house...I believe doing this is intruding into peoples personal life and renting just a house should have noting to do with this.

After making the transfer send a scan copy or take a picture of the receipt with your phone as proof ,send it to my email and we can make arrangement for meeting at your most convenient time.

Western union charge due to reason and nature of who you are making the transfer to so you should never inform them that you made the transfer for proof but just tell them the person you made the transfer to is someone you know that's all as Tax and HST will be low if not they will charge you extra tax and as you know we are going to be responsible for the charges so kindly follow advise

We might hand our property keys over to you when we meet for you to be rest assured that we will not be dealing with another person but your will only start counting from the day you move in not the day we are going to hand the keys over to you and you will also pay us when you are ready to move in.

If all sounds good then we are fine proceeding with you and looking forward to having a good landlord/tenant relationship with you.
Rob and Kate
Note that if i do not hear from you between Today/Tommorrow with the Western union transfer receipt then i might see your response as you are not serious

I replied back to this questioning this guy some more and he responded with a 3rd email:

Hi,
Myself and my wife agreed that if we do not hear from you with the Western Union Transfer receipt proof Today/Tomorrow as we requested in our previous message that we might have to focus on renting to another person.We are waiting on you because we contacted you first and we do not want to disappoint you at this point.We have refused to take other offers not that its low but even higher than you are proposing but as we said before that getting a good tenant is priceless so everything is not about money and this is what myself and my wife agreed on.

We might hand our property keys over to you when we meet for you to be rest assured that we will not be dealing with another person but your will only start counting from the day you move in not the day we are going to hand the keys over to you and you will also pay us when you are ready to move in.
Just in case to re-affirm what we requested for,Kindly go to any Western union transfer outlet,make a Western union money transfer of the agreed amount to your friends name or partner or relative or someone you know as i explained before,the agent will give you a similar form attached to this message to fill or the agent might just do it on there system and hand the receipt over to you.In this form you will see a Sender and Receiver column,Fill your name if you are the one making the transfer as the sender and Fill anyone you know maybe your friend or relative or partners name as the Receiver not me.

The reason why i asked you to send it to someone you know is because you will be rest assured that you didn't pay me before moving in and you can get your money back from the receiver who is someone you know immediately after our meeting you can ask whoever you made the transfer to go and pick the money from Western union so your money is not going anywhere but going back to you and you will only pay for rent when you are about to move in.

I will not waste 4 hours drive all for nothing and we do not want to be messed around anymore.The little Western Union charges is nothing compare to dealing with time wasters so we are fine to deduct that from the rent before you pay us or we can simply incur it back when we meet this weekend.(Your Choice)

Looking forward to a wonderful Landlord/Tenant relationship with you as soon as the necessary thing is done.
Rob and Kate


THIS SCUMBAG NEEDS TO BE CAUGHT. I AM SO GLAD I DID NOT FALL FOR THIS SCAM!!! thankfully I showed these emails to some family members to ask what they think and they researched and found this site!!!

I also got an email form this guy but from a different number and that was 647-783-7771 and this was 2 days ago Oct 27/2012

He has changed his number to (647) 783-7771. He sent me a text in reply to my ad.

Thank you for this site!!!
I haven't rented a place personally yet so I didn't know what was normal. I'm in Calgary and "Rob and Kate" pulled the same "we're three hours away" thing... But an Ontario number... Oh we'll, I thought, I have friends with phones from other provinces. I feel so stupid, I actually western union'd money to my dad to show I have it, which cost me a hundred bucks. I was very careful to keep personal info out and just sent a picture of the amount sent though, and he insisted it was not complete enough, and wanted the confirmation pick up number. That unfortunately was my big red flag. I'm beyond livid. I'm embarrassed as I've been played the fool. We're expecting a baby and I'm in university so money is tight, but I was stupid to believe something so good could be true. Thanks again for confirming my suspicions
Oh, the number he is using now is 6477837771

+1 647-783-7771 this is his new number .. so he tried to play me. I'm in edmonton . I'm glad I googled hi email address.

My wife and I posted an add yesterday looking for a house to rent. We got a response from Rob and Kate Nelson stating that they had a "magnificent property to rent" However could only communicate VIA email. Also, they wanted to know which town we were looking for, even though our add clearly stated where we wished to move. PRICK

I was just a victim of this guys scam. I have reported it to the OPP, Western Union, and Kijiji but I am also going to report him to Yahoo as he seems to be using their email system to run these scams and I imagine they wouldn't appreciate that. On tuesday I will be contacting the Canadian Anti Fraud people as advised by the OPP because this is a nationally run scan. I will be giving them his phone number and the 3 email addresses that I have seen on here. So please if anyone has any further information about this guy please report it to them.  He is currently running his scam in ORILLIA, ON as that is where the money was wrongfully picked up from Western Union. Luckily we will be refunded our money although it has really put my husband, 2 year old daughter and myself in a hardship. SO again any information anyone can give to help stop this guy would be greatly appreciated.

This guy just tried to pull the same scam on a friend of mine in Kitchener yesterday, so he's still doing this!!. He figured him out before he sent any money though! I think the police should set up a sting!!! This guy has been getting away with it for toooo long now!!!
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