saying i owe a payday loan

National Recovery Group
http://www.nragroup.com/contact.html

I did some dirt work on a ranch or lack there of Jay ledford and Neil Patel. They owe Barrington construction $1850 they don't pay their debts so no one should pay them. Wish I wasn't so busy Ida called a collecter to collect.

Just received a call from them after 5pm, providing her name as Liz Solomon, but did not identify where she was calling from. She stated it was urgent that I contact her tonight with regard to a legal matter. Thought I would contact a lawyer first, since my sister is dating one, and get some advice before returning the call. I haven't had any issues with making payments on bills or collection companies.

i GOT A CALL FROM THIS NUMBER AT 830AM BUT THEY DID NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE.  THEN, I TRIED TO CALL IT BACK AND IT WAS A NUMBER OUT OF NEW YORK, BUT IT WAS BUSY ALL DAY LONG WHEN I TRIED TO CALL. SO I GUESS IM NOT THAT IMPORTANT.

I got A Call from this man J colon and he stated that me and my grandma had to pay off this debt and asked why am i paying this debt solution company off he sd To pay this amazing reduction off and then he had the nerv to call my grandma an old hag i ripped and chewed his name off and sd never call me again this national recovery group is terrible and they better get better people representing them and not to be funny but tthat guy j whatever sounded like a gay bastard who just wanted to watch me unclothed under a doorhole what an a**hole sorry but i call it like it is

I just received a call from National Recovery Group....they want me pay on a charge card I filed bankrupty on 4 years ago!! The supervisor told me that I would be receiving a summons in the mail. I told him not to call here anymore and gave him my case number!

recording with womans voice askling for an "arthur gang". (sorry no such person at this address or phone. could not tell her that as it WAS A RECORDING.) she said "this is not a telemarketer call. calling from n r group llc please have arthur gang call d t energy at 877-847-6674 and reference # 223886"

I got calls last year as did my parents from National Recovery Group saying that they were going to put me in jail and take everything in a lawsuit if I didn't work with them.  They had a lawyer at the county court house ready to file.  It scared my parents so much that they loaned me the money to settle and the money was taken from my checking account by National Recovery.  On a good month I make about $200 to $300 period and eat a lot of cold cereal.

Now, I have a Falzone & Associates saying that they bought the loan and I owe them.  Well, I have a settlement letter and proof that the money was taken so I just filed a complaint with the Oregon Attorney General's office and named both groups.   Looks like one sold an already settled account to another fabulous group.  Slimy.

The www.nationalrecovery.com website is not the same group and are in PA, not NY.  I called them and they spent a long time trying to help me and couldn't find me owing any bad debt.  BECAUSE I SETTLED!

So, if you are National Recovery Group or Falzone, know that I've got the AG's office notified.

Best of luck to any of you dealing with this.  I'd say always contact your Atty Generals office and know your rights before you talk to anyone let alone give them money.

Now, I'm going to some TV news stations and file complaints with investigative reporters - they are the ones telling people how easy it is to settle.

Right.

From other postings, it seems that National Recovery Group or NR Group has changed their name to "The Law Office of Scott Wheat," in what may be an attempt to trick people into believing that the people placing the calls are lawyers, which would be a serious FDCPA violation.  In various 800notes postings, people have stated than these debt collectors announce that they are calling "from the Law Office of Scott Wheat."  This may falsely implies they are lawyers or that perhaps they are working for a lawyer.  When questioned whether they were an attorney or not, they have referred to themselves as "litigators."  This may falsely implies that they are someone who practices law.

According to various sources, this company has identified or registered themselves as:

"The Law Office of Scott Wheat"
"The Law Office of Scott and Wheat"
"Advanced Data Mining Solutions"
"Southern Capital and Associates"
"NRG Billing, LLC"
"NRG & Associates"
"National Recovery Group"
"NR Group"

The listed address is the same as National Recovery Group's or NR Group's address of:

305 Cayuga Rd., Buffalo, NY 14225

The numbers that "The Law Office of Scott Wheat" are reported as using are:
866-279-6888
877-847-6680 (one of NR Group's old numbers)
716-568-7173
877-877-3074
716-568-7173
877-847-6675 (one of NR Group's old numbers)
877-847-6674 (one of NR Group's old numbers)
716-362-4898 (one of NR Group's old numbers)
877-847-6679 (one of NR Group's old numbers)
716-565-2316

If you want more postings on NR Group, AKA, National Recovery Group, look up these numbers:
877-847-6680
877-847-6681
716-362-4891
716-362-4898
716-565-2319
877-847-6675
877-847-6674
877-847-6679

It appears that NR Group or National Recovery Group may have reincorporated themselves once again.  If it's like their last three re-births, they are running from lawsuits by changing their name.

I hope to raise this issue when I next meet with the New York AG.

More evidence Fred Schneider is probably a fraudster.  

Wages in TX cannot be garnished to collect consumer debt.  This is from the TX AG Web site.

http://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/debt_collection.shtml

"Your home and wages:
"Some collectors will threaten to take your home or wages to pay for a debt. In Texas, if your residence has been declared a homestead, it cannot be taken to pay a debt except for debts taken for the purchase of the home (ie, a mortgage in default), for home improvements, for home equity loans or to pay certain taxes. Wages may be garnished only to pay debts related to court-ordered child support, back taxes, and defaulted student loans. Debt collectors cannot garnish wages for repayment of consumer debt."

You should file a complaint with the New York Attorney General office in Buffalo, NY, and with the FCC.

NY AG web site is: http://www.oag.state.ny.us/bureaus/consumer_frauds/contact.html
where they have a form you can fax in.  There are also some very heartening stories of legal actions taken against unscrupulous debt collectors and process servers who have been charged with various corrupt practices.

FCC web site is:
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
where they have an on-line form.

These companies are harassing innocent people with these phishing phone calls and need to be stopped.  Here is a very interesting article that explains why Buffalo, NY, has become the hub of the debt collection industry. It's titled, "Merchants of Debt".

http://www.educationcenter2000.com/debt_collectors/merchants_of_debt.htm

National Recovery Group LLC
305 Cayuga Rd # 100
Buffalo, NY 14225
Phone: (716) 565-2319
Web Address: www.nationalrecovery.com/

http://www.creditreportproblems.com/National_Recovery_Group.htm

Platinum Capital Investments
AKA LP Investments, Inc.

Platinum Capital Benefits Card
Riverwalk Holdings, LTD
Jay Brian Ledford, CPA
1245 S. Main St., #100
Grapevine, TX 76099

888-205-1831
817-251-7000
817-251-7008
817-822-4562
Fax:
817-251-7009
817-488-6442

Head Debt Collector:
Jay Brian Ledford,
Owner, President
Web address: http://pcbcard.com/  

Here is a classic example of someone who should not be in the junk debt buying/debt collection business. Jay Brian Ledford, 45, of Colleyville, TX is a Certified Public Accountant who may have succumbed to the allure of the bottom- feeder debt business, without any background or prior training in it. It appears to me that he saw a potential for money that is is ill-equipped

At least that is what I found in researching him and his organizations.

Jay Brian Ledford appears to have gone out and purchased portfolio?s of old, (mostly worthless) junk debts from one of the worst junk debt collectors, that used to operate in the industry. That organization was CSGA, LLC an illegitimate offspring subsidiary of Bronson & Migliaccio, of Buffalo, NY. B&M are Collect America franchisee?s who attempted to branch out on their own, and failed miserably. CSGA no longer operates, they failed because the debts they were collecting on were old, out of statute, containing no valid chain of ownership, which caused CSGA, LLC to issue bogus affidavits and claims that almost never met most state legal standards. B&M took a financial bath on CSGA as did the majority of appearance lawyers they hired to collect on these junk debts.

It appears that in his haste to enter the junk debt business, CPA Ledford purchased a CSGA portfolio and is attempting to collect on them through NATIONAL RECOVERY GROUP, LLC, A BUFFALO, NY BASED COLLECTION AGENCY. A check of several state records shows that Ledford does not have debt collector licensing or bonds anywhere in the U.S., which appears to make them an illegal debt collector.

The good news for consumers is that Ledford and National Recovery appear to be smart enough not to place these bogus accounts into consumer credit files. Perhaps the risk of a Class Action lawsuit is a good deterrent for them or they may even be smart enough to realize the majority of these accounts are out of statute in most states.

First a Certified Public Account, now a junk debt, bottom-feeder, but wait?that?s not all! Ledford also is involved in selling consumers a membership plan in health care benefits called the Platinum Capital Benefits Card.

(From his website) http://pcbcard.com/

Platinum Capital Benefits Card (PCBC) offers the most comprehensive health care savings program on the market today.

PCBC is a membership plan consisting of health care benefits that offers substantial savings on products and services to its members. Our members and their dependents will receive significant savings from a network of over 300,000 health care providers across the nation.

PCBC was founded for one primary reason: to deliver health care savings to those who are finding good health care both expensive and hard to obtain. Our #1 goal is to help people save money on their health care by providing the most professional, high value health care services and products at an affordable price.

He is a CPA, a provider of health benefits care savings and a junk debt bottom-feeder.

My advice to consumers contacted by NATIONAL RECOVERY GROUP, LLC on debts owned by:

Platinum Capital Investments LP Investments, Inc.
Riverwalk Holdings, LTD

is to hold them to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) by demanding complete validation along with a chain of ownership. It is my impression, based on the information I have, that they will find that a very difficult if not impossible task to perform.

Having no licensing or bonds may also raise the specter of potential legal actions for collecting debts illegally, which would be the decision of a consumer law professional.

Based on his total lack of experience, the dumpster trash accounts he purchased, his inability to produce any valid chain of ownership or reasonable debt validation and other bone headed moves made by this collector, I predict that Jay B. Ledford and his debt collection companies will likely be out of this industry before too long.

http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/platinum_capital.htm

Also see notes under:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-847-6681
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-716-362-4891

Caller ID: 877-847-6680
Caller: NR Group/aka/Riverwalk Holdings, LTD
Caller Type: Collection Agency

NR Group is now calling from 8778476680

See message above about Jason and Fred being the same person.
I'm pretty sure that the same person who signed as creditguru is also Jason and Fred Schneider
Many of the textual and sentence patterns are the same as in the emails from Jason and Fred.
- Judgement - same British spelling. (all three postings)
- Same problem with contractions.  (all three postings)
- Same problems with sentence punctuation.  (all three postings)
- Same usage of the term, ?Better Pay?.  (all three postings)
- Same general usage of the terms, ?these guys?, ?this guy?, ?these people? (all three postings)
- Same misspelling of the word, "Lien". (creditguru and Jason)

I am a forensics analyst.
Jason and Fred Schneider are likely the same person.
Notice that Jason and Fred both:
Talk about "these guys"
Use the British spelling of Judgement, not the US spelling of Judgment.
Mention the term, "they are for real"
Mention the term, "you better pay"
Neither email uses sentence and contraction punctuation.  Period and contraction marks are missing.  Examples "DIDT" and "im" instead of Didn't and I'm.
Both messages were posted on 27 Jun.
This person is probably not originally from the US.
Better luck next time Mr Fred "Jason" Schneider.  I suggest you get an education so you won't have to call and harass innocent people about debts they don't owe.

I analyzed the messages from Fred Sneider and Jason.  Both are the same person.

I think you work there too.  What a scam outfit!

You are obviously working for them!!!!!!!!!

I called and got a MS Herner? who told me I had a outstanding debt. I do but am unemployed and living in my car. I'm here at a Library and got the call again, I went out and answered and explained my situtation, living in
my car, 400 a month unemployment etc. Her answer? Pay the next 400 when you get it and get us off your back. They have called my ex's family looking for me and I haven't been n touch with them for over 9 years!!
They refused to work with me. They said they would be suing me.. I live in Ca. They also threatend to garnish my wages .. I'm unemployed..

LOCATED IN BUFFALO NEW YORK THEY COLLECT FAKE DEBTS  AND HARASS PEOPLE RAN BY MAN AND HIS WIFE WHO ARE SCAM ARTIST  THE COMPANY NAME STANDS FOR NATIONAL RECOVER GROUP THEY WERE AFFLIATED WITH SOME GUY NAMED "BAGS OF MONEY " THIS COMPANY FILED BANKRUPTCY BACK IN NOVEMBER 2008

This Place is a debt collection company who cant sue you i worked there 3 years ago and they suck terribly take it from a person who worked there they cant sue ytou dont pay your bills and live in debt its the best way to go, and besides the government is taking our money so why cant we hey if you want money just record them and get a fat a** check make sure they say there mini miranda them illegal b*****ds  ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk them

I was glad to find this site!  I have been getting calls from this number about my brother. They have also called my mother, who has a totally different last name,about him.  He has had a bankruptcy and various credit problems.  I largely ignore these kinds of calls because I am not responsible for his debt.  Today, they called me and left a threatening message that either me or my attorney need to call them back about MY case.  I have a clean record and pay off my bills each month.

I have put a fraud alert on my credit report and urge others to do the same.  Also, report this number to the phone company,local authorities,consumer advocates, etc.

Apparently business is booming.  This is off of yahoojobs!


Collections
National Recovery Group - Cheektowaga, NY
NRGroup, LLC Be your own Santa Join our team & receive Competitive pay Large files Open internet for skip tracing Great night shift hours Call Jay Conlon at 716-362-4898 And turn...

Is this a 3rd party collection agency?  If they 'bought' debt from credit card companies, anything they claim against you is hearsay, no?
It doesn't seem that they're a lsw firm of any type.  
We received a call from them a couple of months ago.  The man that wanted my wife to pay refused to send any proof of debt.  By law, are they not required to do so?  Told them nothing would be discussed over the phone and they need to put everything in writing.  That was the last we heard from them.  
I looked up their website. The site makes them sound very professional and courteous, and willing to work with consumers.  But they were some of the most rude people we've ever heard on the phone.  
What do you do if you hear from someone like this?

Wow Credit Guru! You must owe like a million bucks for them to Garnish, Freeze your bank account, and put a lien on your home.

I can smell a liar a mile a way and you happen to stink so badly. WHy don't you go type some more lies it is so amusing!

WHo wants to be your friend anyway!!! No get off this site and pray for your hounding sould.

The funny thing is when they leave a message on your phone they try to sound very articulate and educated. ha ha ha

They star off wih THis is MS. Gilcrest or MR. Cross. They also talk so fast and after they mentioned all the lawsuit or suing you stuff they end with a "GOODLUCK."

Psychology!!!!! where do they train this Monsters?

WOW FRED SCHNEIDER! How long did it took you to come up with that name. Garnish your wages. Get off this site! This are for victims not for hounds.

i work for this agency it is horrible i am not getting any money and the paper is uncollectable the managers talk about everyone behind there backs and then blame other people for everything that went wrong they even blocked this site at work so we cant see all the bad things that you guys say about them and us they blame all the ex employees for posting this stuff this place is a revolving door people come and go almsost ev day i cant take it anymore i am going to quit im not getting a bonus check so why stay i bet they will talk about me after i leave who cares this place is the worst agency i ever been at i going to go in and quit today