716-626-6208
NY, US
kris
kris
2013-01-09 23:06:23
Unknown
The only way to get these people to stop is ti file a complaint with the,sttorney general's office. That's what i had to do.
Teri Hurtado
Teri Hurtado
2012-11-20 19:09:34
Debt Collector
The RTH Group contacted me several months ago saying that after a year and half of a loan I couldn't pay because of a job loss I am being summoned to show up in court.  I gave them my information to pay it off because they also called a friend saying I was going to jail or court.  I have been paying all this time, but every time I call the same guy answers and I can tell by his answers to my questions that he's making it up as he goes.  I am going to block this from my account and put a stop to it.  I have looked them up online and keep seeing that it must be another scam!
KM
KM
2012-07-16 16:18:27
Unknown
I am now going thru this harassment with "originally" Money & More.  I began receiving calls from the so-called "Private locator" who says that we need to meet so he can deliver sealed documents to me.  I said no, papers for what?  He gave me the number to Nationwide (supposed the Pre-Litigation firm) and a case#.  I called and they said that they are the mediator and have been hired to set up an payment arrangement with me to pay back $707 to Money & More.  I told them that I have never received this loan and I have already gone thru this with 2 other collection agencies.  I have actually proven to them by faxing statements from my bank showing that I never received a deposit into my bank account.  This "private locator keep calling me and my family trying to scare us.  I was told by a co-worker to tell them that if they continue to harass me at work, I will call the Fraud Dept. of DOJ to inform them and also contact the fed trade commision.  I said to Nationwide, if the locator you have hired to track me down is here to serve me paper "to appear in court" then why is it that the court has no record of this case?  I will rather wait to receive my papers in the mail from the court.  I will then appear with my proof and in turn I will sue your A** and will include your "private locator" in the bunch with harassment on a federally operated telephone.  I still waiting to hear back.  By the way, I have already reported Money & More to FTC.
chicarose
chicarose
2012-06-01 04:31:18
Unknown
yea I got a.call similar to that, but from a mike robertson, he claims to be an attorney calling for money and more , and he had asked me to pay him 250, to settle outside of court, I dont have any record of this loan on my statements, and he threated me to take me.to court.
Cecilia
Cecilia
2012-05-22 15:24:18
Debt Collector
In July 2008, I took out a payday loan from Money & More on the internet. I don't remember the exact amount, because I did not even remember doing it.
This morning I received a phone call, and my dad did as well, from 716-244-6551. I was given an ID number. I don't answer unknown numbers. I call back after hearing a voice mail. My dad told me that they issued a warrant for my arrest in Bexar County. I called them back because the voicemail they left was basically stating the same thing.
He said he worked for Morgan Lewis on behalf of Money & More. He had all of my personal information, bank information, ssn, dob. He told me I had committed internet fraud by taking out a loan and not paying it back. I did not remember taking out a loan online & told him I didn't remember taking out a loan on the internet. He then told me that he had email transactions and verification from my bank that the ACH withdrawal was declined twice so I had committed internet fraud and was going to jail. He then hung up on me.
I got online immediately to look in my email for said correspondence. I found an email that I had initiated requesting information on how/when to pay back the payday loan I had taken out on July 18, 2008. I still don't remember doing it, but, I guess I did. I got an email back the same day requesting my ssn. I sent that back and they responded that the payment would be coming out Aug 1, 2008 and had already been sent to the bank.
I then called my bank. They were very helpful and looked up transactions on my account first for July 2009, because the man I spoke with told me that date. (July 13, 2009) They found no ACH withdrawals and no overdrafts. I then asked them to look in July 2008 and August 2008. The customer service rep found the deposit from Money & More in July and found the paid ACH withdrawal in Aug 2008. There were no overdrafts in connection with my withdrawal and it was not presented twice as the rep from Morgan Lewis claimed.
I called the man back, he identified himself as Anthony Fatalli (or Batalli), his NY accent made it difficult for me to be clear on the pronunciation. I told him that I had done some investigating and that the bank clearly shows I had paid the company back and that I did find email correspondence that showed I had taken out the loan, however, it was paid in full and for him not to contact me anymore. He laughed at me, told me that if I was calling him back to pay over the phone then, to give him the information so he could call the Bexar County Sheriffs office to stop the warrant, otherwise I was going to rot in jail. I could whine, cry, whatever I wanted because he was going to have me arrested on felony charges of internet fraud. I told him I needed more information before I gave out anything, especially on the phone, because I had not received any correspondence from the company. He told me it was not their responsibility to chase me down to collect a debt, that it was my responsibility to take care of it myself. As their lawyer, I could pay him and it would all go away. I said no, and he hung up on me, laughing, quite rudely, stating, "Have fun rotting in prison."
I was upset. I looked up Money & More online to see if there was a phone number that I could call to see if I could get more information since they were the ones I did business with. The website has no phone numbers. What was interesting though was what came up in the google search for Money and More. There are several forums and postings about scams to collect a debt from unsuspecting people.
I saw that they are harrassing co-workers, family, neighbors, as well as the person who owes this purported debt. My dad was harrassed, my daughter scared, and I felt the need to alert my supervisor to the situation, to prevent harrassment of my co-workers.
Jessica
Jessica
2012-05-02 20:53:10
Unknown
I had the same problem.... thing is I never did business with Money & More. They had all of my information though so it was a bit scary. She got mad when I asked her a lot of questions trying to find out who Money & More were and what location they were referring to. She claimed to be a mediator but didn't list her qualifications when asked.     I got a phone call on my cell phone from a restricted number. I answered it and a woman said she had been privately retained to locate me. She then gave me a phone number and a "case number" implying it was a lawsuit. I called the 877 number and the woman there said I had bounced a check with them in 2008 and a filing was pending with Clermont County..... implying it was with the courts. Court case numbers are not like the one I had been give and case numbers are not issued unless a case has actually been filed with the court. The woman at the 877 number had all of my information but I have never done business with Money & More nor bounced a check. The bank they had listed on me is still my bank and pays all checks and charges me any fees that may be incurred.
Ann
Ann
2012-04-18 21:15:53
Unknown
Whoow, this just happened to me. Was at work and picked up the phone my ext. and a guy says he was looking for (my name) I reply this is she. He goes on to say that he is calling from county court office and was going to dispatch my call over to a PERSON to handle a fraud activity against me. I was so lost and had no clue what was going on. OK thats fine I said, a guy gets on the phone, very rude and states that I took out a loan and never repaid it. So who, what, and when was my questions from that moment on. I only could get very limited answers, he told me Money & More was the lender, taken out 7/22/08, OK and this is 2012 I asked why I have never gotten anything mailed to me regarding this matter. Bullsh** was his reply and stated that I pay 750.50 to cancel court procedings. I then asked for the number to call Money & More, he says mam why would I give you that information when you can fine that on the web. Stated he would not give me that info for me to fight against them in court. RED FLAGS, told him I was going to research this and give me a contact #. They called back few days latter (at my job at goes into detail with my coworker that papers were going to be served to me and needed a supervisor) OMG this fouls are about to get it!!! She transfered the call to me and I got the number to call on my lunch and I did, but not before call the Stark County Courts, City Courts, and the local Police Station, also filled a complaint on the Attoney Generals Office. This was the best thing I could have done because when I called them they go an ear full then some I took names, numbers, and address. Ended well because I had so much to get them with. They are very pushy rude and ignorant people, follow suite and do something but NO ACCOUNT INFORMATION PLEASE.. phone # was 888-267-3905, address PO BOX 5757 zip 98124
CHRIS
CHRIS
2012-04-16 18:26:30
Debt Collector
MY FRIEND WORKS FOR THE COMPANY THAT IS CALLING EVERYONE IN THIS POST.  THE COMPANY IS BASED IN NEW YORK AND RENTS A SMALL FLYBY NIGHT OPERATION IN BUFFALO, NY.  DO NOT BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE, THEY ARE A SCAM.  MY FRIEND IS IN THE PROCESS OF QUITTING THIS JOB BECAUSE SHE KNOWS ITS WRONG.
e
e
2012-04-13 16:38:28
Debt Collector
Got a phone call today on my house phone from a server saying I was being sued and to call this number 18775498205 gave me a case number and the name of the company RTH group. When I called RTH Group these guys told me I was being charged with check fraud and a few other things. Said that I defaulted on a loan with Money and More and in order to keep it out of court I had to pay them $800. When I asked them how much it was for and when I then loan was and why I hadn't been contacted sooner, they refused to give me the amount and said I had been contacted and it was from July 2008. When I told them I knew I paid the loan and where I needed to send the proof the guy I was speaking to got very rude and told me he didn't have the time to deal with that and wasn't going to waste his time and he KNOWS I didn't pay it. I argued with him for a while and then my mom got on the phone and asked when it was and how much and he told her he wasn't giving her information that we already knew. We told him we would look into and call him back, he refused saying we had to look it up while he was still on the phone and he would wait. We told him he was being an a**hole and we would call him back. Went to the bank and had them pull up my old bank account records. Turns out I did pay them. On the way home from the bank I checked my voicemail on my cell-phone and they left a message on it before they called my house. My cell number has been changed 4 times since 2008. After being home for about 20 minutes the "process server" called me again from a private number. They wanted to know what was going on. I told them that I already went to my bank and have proof that I paid the company so I wasn't paying them. When I told them I knew that they were a scam and I was already filing a complaint with the attorney generals office they told me I had no idea what was going on and that they would have to serve me a summons. I said that's fine I would LOVE to see one so come on over with the police and serve me. To which they replied "fine I'll be seeing you soon with a police escort." Such bu***hit. It's a scam. We filed a complaint with the Attorney General in Ohio.
Tina
Tina
2012-04-11 13:55:42
Unknown
I got a call last year for the same thing & again yesterday from a company they call UAC& were representing Money & More.  Just like you they deposited $255 on 6/26/08 & withdrew $300 on 7/17/08.  I told these people to fax me over their documentation & they wouldn't do it, said I would have to take it to court.  They said yesterday that I was going to be served a summons yesterday or today & still haven't seen anything.  I fought w/ Cathy Hunter on the phone for a good while both days & she was uncooperative & said even if I faxed her my bank statements they wouldn't look @ it.  This is definitely a scam but it's pissing me off that I've had to spend so much of my time researching this & their company.  The # that called me was 888-267-3265.  When Money & More opens @ 10 I'm going to call them...Their # is 319-358-1163 they are out of IA.  Let me know if any of you actually get a summons to appear in court.
Mitch
Mitch
2012-04-07 00:55:44
Unknown
I got a call from Global today who is taking over for money and more has anyone heard of this and they are also telling me that I owe them 700 bucks and that my banck acct no longer exist ..I told them duh since I filed bankruptcy I closed my acct cause I couldn't put no money into and they wanted some type opf payment from from and that they are sending an investigation company to serve me to go to court...so I told them that I will be contacting my lawyer to help me with this and they told me goodluck with that...number that keeps calling me is 8889014710 global and the person I spoke to is monique at ext 325 and the person who suppose to serve his number is 9735596161...ill have to wait for my lawyer to get back to me on Monday...
Hacked off!
Hacked off!
2012-04-06 13:13:06
Unknown
Hey Polly,

I reported "Consolidated" and the actions listed in my posts to the BBB yesterday for investigation.  If these are, in fact, actions taken by the company "Consolidated" based out of Los Angeles, CA, then the BBB should nip it in the bud.  I hope? :)

Here is the company I filed the complaint against.  Maybe if more people follow suit they will get shut down?

Consolidated
P.O. Box 1844
Los Angeles, CA 90001
polly hofmeister
polly hofmeister
2012-04-06 01:08:59
Unknown
i just got a scam call today, thank god saved bank statement from 2008 . most un professional call ever. did anyone go after them
Hacked off!
Hacked off!
2012-04-05 20:06:07
Unknown
One last thing....this company "Consolidated", when asked for the contact information for Money & More said they could not give it to me.  So I did some more research....according to the BBB, Money & More closed down and is out-of-business as far as they know since none of the phone numbers are connected and all mail sent by the BBB is returned.

If these people start bugging you, get a good app for your phone that blocks their calls.  Right now every-time they call, they get hung up on :)  Oh what fun technology is sometimes :)
Hacked off!
Hacked off!
2012-04-05 20:00:41
Unknown
BTW....the 703.788.2397 number has called about 15 times between yesterday and today.  The extra funny thing is that the number comes up as a local landline (which is the ONLY reason i picked up the phone in the first place), when in fact the person was OBVIOUSLY on a cell phone.  I guess this is just another case of a spooked phone number.  Also the 888 number she gave me to call is 888.730.4516.  What a load of crap!  these people are deplorable!
Hacked off!
Hacked off!
2012-04-05 19:45:18
Unknown
I received a call from a very rude woman named "Sara Knox" yesterday on her cell number 703.988.2397.  the reception was horrendous, much like her attitude.  She said she needed to verify my address to serve me papers.  When I asked her who was trying to serve me, she said that the documents were sealed and that opening them was a federal offense.  Instead, she gave me a 888 number to call as well as a case number to give them when I did so.  She said she would call me back in 30 minutes so that I could be served that day.  So, I bit...I called the 888 number and the phone was answered by a guy named "Art" (wouldn't give me his last name).  He said the name of the company was "Consolidated" and that I needed to be served legal papers because I was being sued.  When I inquired about who was suing me, he said it was for a debt owed to Money & More from April of 2010.  I told him that this debt had, IN FACT, already been paid off...in 2010.  I quickly pulled out the bank statements to prove it and told him that some other company tried scamming me for this bill about a year ago.  He said that I owed over $700 between the original debt, the fee for hiring his collection company, and the fee for the person to come out an serve me my papers. i asked to speak to his supervisor Thomas something and he said that if I didn't settle today, then it would cost me more in the end and that I should just give him my credit card information over the phone - FAT CHANCE OF THAT EVER HAPPENING!  I told him that in fact I have proof that this debt was paid off and proven to Money & More and he said that going to court would cost me $2000-$3000 in the end.  I told him that there is no case against me since this is a scam and I have proof of payment.  He said fine and i said, I've got your number :)
sick of ppl and scams
sick of ppl and scams
2012-04-03 17:49:36
Unknown
I received a call from a private number telling me that I have a law suit pending against me and they need to verify my address to serve me.  The lady gave me a number to call 1866.430.0299 for Continental Legal a collection agency.  I called the number and was told that in June 2006 I borrowed a loan for 507.50 and when the company Money and More went to retreive the money it was returned.  The guy was very indignant and pushy for me to pay this 507.50 immediately.  I told him that I was going to my back to check my statement.  Sure enought there is a transaction for AC Money and More for 255.00; however, there is another transaction for Money and More for 300.00 on 07/11 - 2 weeks from the initial deposit.  I don't remember doing business with these people but surely - my statement states they withdrew 300.00 from my account.  I called Continental Legal back and was told that I have a choice to either pay the 510.00 (now its 510.00 before it was 507.50) - I asked if there was a number I can call (Money and More) to rectify this situation and was told no - they rectained this client but have no information on the client.  That makes all the sense to me.... I read the many posts on this site regarding Money and More and realize that this is a scam...
mother of 3
mother of 3
2012-03-29 19:25:51
Unknown
My husband received the same type of call regarding money and more. They said if i didn't settle with them it was going to be processed with the court today, and that we we're being sue for over $1,700 and that we would also be responsible for $1500 in court and legal fees.I have my bank statement to prove we don't owe them anything. They wouldn't let me sent them the documentation(reg flag!) or give me the name of the attorney supposedly handling the case and wouldn't give me their address either. I believe this is a scam and plan on reporting it. If my husband does get served tomorrow bring it on because we have talked to an attorney and will file a counter-suit! Hopefully no one will fall for this!
melyoplace
melyoplace
2012-03-29 16:44:56
Unknown
I just got a call from my job from a RC someone (an attorney) calling stating that money and more plans to pursue me in court. This is regarding a loan supposedly taken out in Aug. 2008 in the amount of $255.00. I told him I paid that totally off and he said that a team of lawyers had called my bank to find the transaction but couldn't. This is a scam if I ever heard one but the thought of these creeps calling my job and threatening to come out on my job or home is really pissing me off. What can one do about this?
vicki
vicki
2012-03-29 14:52:24
Unknown
I'm sitting here reading alot of these comments, this is very odd cause my husband just got the same phone call on his phone, not my phone, but they are saying that I owe them money also! same thing they deposited $300 into my account and I never paid it back, well first off that would be pretty hard not to pay it back whenever you take these loans out they automatically withdraw the funds from your account, I told the guy this is impossible and he said no its not this is what you owe $1923. since it has been 4 years and they are collecting interest. I said " well thats funny cause I got my statements right here and they are showing that it was paid. He said can you fax it to me I said sure as soon as I black out my account number and ssn and some other personal things except my name on it, right away he says oh no mam I have to have that account # I said I don't think so as long as it has my name on it then thats good enough and he argued that he needed my account # giving me 3 to 5 days to fax it all over or I will be going to be sued in court for these cost. I said then go ahead but I bet you end up paying my lawyer fee and all court cost for trying to rip people off! and he hung up!! He said he was from New York and the lady that called me I ask for her and he wouldn't let me talk to her! But he said his name was Davis I ask for his full name and he wouldn't give it to me, said thats all I needed to know. used an 877 # when I called back I ask for the lady again and same guy said just give me your case # and I will take care of it I said no I'm to talk to the lady that called me thats who left the message thats who I want to talk to. A lady got on the phone but funny it wasn't the same voice as the person who left the message.
Dawn
Dawn
2012-03-27 14:05:43
Debt Collector
This company -- Money & More -- has been harassing me for 3 years, saying I never paid back a $300 loan from 2008.  In 2010, I obtained my bank record showing I had paid it back and faxed it to "Gateway," their so-called collections agency.  BofA told me Money & More has been scamming people this way.  

They did the same thing 2011 with a different collections agency, and when I told that collector I was aware that this was a scam, she dropped it.  

Now, they have a new collections agency -- calling itself RTH Group -- harassing me, threatening to file suit against me, garnish wages, etc.  Yesterday I faxed the same document from BofA, showing I paid the 2008 loan, and today an RTH Group "representative" called to say they only received the page showing the loan was deposited!  Note: They also use this number: 877-549-9205 and their last few calls, they blocked the caller ID function so it showed as "restricted number."
saif
saif
2012-03-03 00:07:00
Unknown
its a scam
sarah
sarah
2012-03-02 14:44:12
Debt Collector
I got a call yest called it back and this lady from a law firm told me I owed money and more money from 07 I said no I paid that. She informed me I had to pay it again I told her I was calling my attorney and hung up. Number was 7125603279
scamed
scamed
2012-03-01 01:12:34
Debt Collector
they are using a new # now 1877-549-8205 with a new company name, RTH out of seattle they said,
they called a lot of my relatives. i wish people could read this before RTH calls. it is to bad that people have to suffer like this. i was threaten with a summons, they threaten my family memebers. I notified the ag. i filed a police report. notified the bbb. here is what i do know, these people that do this will burn
in hell, just not so enough
dee
dee
2012-02-22 20:53:07
Unknown
So I just rcvd my bank statement from 2008 and surely enough...Money and More deposited 255.00 in aug. 2008 and took a payment out of my account in Sept 2008 for 300..so If they call me again there gonna hear it from me....I still dont remember applying for the loan...
dee
dee
2012-02-22 19:24:32
Unknown
Have any of you seen anything on your bank statements from this company? They called me also in IL. saying that Money and More deposited $507.50 into my act on Aug 21st 2008...I called my bank and they have a credit from Money and More on Aug 27th, 2008 for $255.00 but no details on Money and More ever taking the money out of my acct..I dont even know who these company is...and the "Law Firm" that is calling me now says I have to pay back over a thousand dollars...
Brenda
Brenda
2012-02-13 17:27:02
Unknown
I filed a complaint with the  Better Business Bureau, Inc. (Upstate, NY) 100 Bryant Woods South Amherst, NY 14228 Phone: (716) 881-5222 Fax: (716) 883-5349 Web: www.upstateny.bbb.org and the Federal trade commission. Because I've never heard of this company money and more.
kt va
kt va
2012-02-11 23:10:06
Debt Collector
omfg this is crazy... i received the same call they left a message but the number came up private...when i called back i was told that he had a summons that was faxed to his office today and i had one day to respond to it,,,i called the number that was left on my voicemail and inwas told i had gotten a payday loan from MONEY N MORE in september of 08 and i didnt repay them ...first of all i didnt get a payday loan...and if i would have i wouldnt do it online....they had my bank name and my ssn and the teller stated i had to pay right than or they were going to take me to court...i stated that i was going to call my bank and get statements proving that i never took out a loan and i asked if i could have there address she said she couldnt give it to me...i asked for there fax number she  couldnt give that to me either....so i asked for the money and more phone number so that i could talk to someone their ,,,,and again she said she couldnt give me the number,,,,so i asked what do i do when my bank statements come in,,,she was like just call back...but she doesnt know if they can wait that long for my statements so i may have to go to court before than......smh ok i want to go to court... and im in Va
Brenda adair
Brenda adair
2012-02-10 20:34:00
Unknown
I think we should file a law suit because I received the same phone call but from a different number the guy that may the call to me told me he would be coming to my house and guess what if I didn't work I would have my brother there waiting with me. When this guy called me the call was private so it didn't show their number but my phone doesn't respond to private calls and it records all of the phone numbers and the number jason called from was ph#716-462-6242 he did leave a message stating he had papers to serve me between the hours of 12:00-5:00 on the 13th he message directed me to call the office that filed the claim which is ph#866-677-2510 sandra baliey at ext 3 she claims my loan was taken out in 04/10/2008 with money and more who I've never heard of she told me they tried to contact me via phone which is a lie, via email which is a lie and mail all lie's she claims they tried for 60 days to get in touch with me and I could tell she was lying because she would even give me their address all she said was they were located in buffalo ny and she claim she will have the accountant dept send me the details and I should have it by monday or tuesday I'm going to contact the bbb and our atty generals office to file a complaint because I truly believe this is a scam.
april
april
2012-01-06 20:24:44
Unknown
Got the same call still calling me I think we should file class action law suit
1-721-267-4953 1-877-588-0804 1-713-958-8881
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