760-269-3825
CA, US
me
me
2011-12-21 17:17:40
Debt Collector
yea, this indian cracker called me a bunch of times. says i'm in trouble or some crap. i think he lost his camel and is pissed. i told him to go jerk o*f his sisters camel and buy a dairy queen. he stopped calling.
AJA
AJA
2011-12-19 03:50:34
Unknown
They called me and I told them they where a scam! I explained I reported them to the FBI. At this point they started making fun of me and said they where not afraid of my FBI. They are a huge scam and should be reported every time they try to contact somebody.
Ed
Ed
2011-12-01 19:55:56
Unknown
Thank you people!!! I have had problems with people sending emails through my yahoo email and the email address they gave me was not mine! These people are the worst kind of hacked website list purchasers that exist. Used to be telemarketers buying lists of phone and fax numbers, now it's hacked email sites. So not cool. All of your experiences are a total duplicate of what I have experienced.
saul
saul
2011-10-06 19:35:57
Unknown
I received 22 calls from this number yesterday after I nicely requested he call later with the first call. 30 seconds later he called again, then 20 more followed in the next 16 minutes. Then today I got another 19 calls in a 12 min window of time. He had almost 40 chances to leave a voicemail. This is a scam, they claim I owe for a payday over the internet. I have never done a pd loan. Especially on the net. Do not give them your personal info. A real collection place knows it is illegal to call the way this guy is. Its illegal and harassment. Report them to who ever you can. There are hundreds of us being harassed by these guys. And their stories on why we owe them money makes no sense. Good luck all
Sam Delgado
Sam Delgado
2011-09-29 16:47:34
Debt Collector
I keep getting calls from this number stating i "owe" money for i loan i applied for online. When i asked for documentation he (foreign accent guy) stated "at this time he can not provide me with that since it was for a loan i applied for online. He asked me what i wanted to do, 1#: take care of it outside of court #2: deal with the consequenses. I told the "f****r", i had proof i never received a loan (bank statements) . he insisted "how do you want to handle this", i just hung up on that f****r. Every time i get a bizzar call it's always someone with a foreign accent i can barely understand what they are saying.
FBI
FBI
2011-09-27 15:12:47
Debt Collector
Call the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and your State Police. When they call back, tell them that you are aware they are running an extortion ring, have notified the authorities and hang up.

Kudos to "Sam" for giving the most intelligent and informative posts on this scam. READ, Bookmark and use as needed:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-631-456-4041/2

I have been receiving phone calls from this group since late April / early May of 2010.  There is a good chance that they also attempted to contact me roughly two years ago before I entered into Chapter 7 Bankruptcy protection, as I faintly remember hearing the same script more or less.

As others have stated, the callers are difficult to understand.  Generally speaking their command of the English language is quite poor and their accents are hard to follow. At times they will get certain words or phrases mixed up.  It would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that they had:

a) Your SSN
b) Your home address
c) Your work address
d) Your banking info
e) Names, numbers and potentially the addresses of "references"
f) A complete and total lack of ethics and a basic understanding of the FDCPA.  

I have personally filed reports with the following agencies, often with limited (if any) success:

Local Police
my state's Attorney General's office
FTC
FBI
Secret Service

Generally the local police won't be able to help much.  The callers are using a combination of prepaid cell phones and VoIP, making them difficult to trace.  Also at their disposal are various spoofing tactics being implemented to catch people off guard - meaning the number that appears on your Caller ID isn't the number that is calling you for starters.  Without gaining a subpoena for the billing information for the numbers in question, the local police won't be able to get very far.  

My state's Attorney General's office couldn't offer much assistance either.  I received a form letter in the mail that my complaint was received and I would be contacted if they needed additional info.  It was more or less the same information I obtained from the FTC.  They each advised me not to give the individuals over the phone any account information or to authorize payment.  That's just common sense, though.

I never got anything from the FBI, either.  There is a good chance that since I haven't suffered a monetary loss that my concerns are low on the totem pole.  I hate to say this, but that is truly the case. Unless you were in the hole for a $1,000 (or more) you aren't going to get much more than "sorry to hear about your situation, change your phone number and move on".  I seemed to get some activity from the Secret Service.  I spoke with agent Doug Zloto. (Google him, referencing threads like these plus his name and you'll find his number also)  He seemed to care a bit more than the average person, but after giving him access to my Google Voice account, there has been no further activity from him that I'm aware of.

In the meantime I changed the wireless number the fraudsters had access to, they have no direct way to get a hold of me.  (Calls at work have ceased for some reason)  That in turn resulted in my "references" getting phone calls from the crooks.  Here is a word of caution for women that have been getting these calls - don't say anything and just hang up.  The callers are quite abusive towards women callers.  Why?  Possibly the culture.  If they are Indian / Pakistani, women are second class citizens there.  You will be treated like garbage.  This happened to a family member when she was trying her best to be extremely nice over the phone.  

The callers currently attempt to reach me through the female family member and an unused Google Voice number that they managed to find of mine.  I keep the Google Voice number open because, well, I can't delete it yet.  So, about every day, 4-5 times a day for the last week, I get voice messages from them.  It's usually just two full messages though - the other calls are broken up with static or they are attempts to read the script until the callers then screw up.  Really, they are that adamant on getting the script 100% that they will hang up mid-sentence and call back 30 seconds later.  

At this point it's a stalemate with these people.  

1) While they have the lion's share of information on us, they can't really do anything with this information.  

Why?  Think about it.

If they were to ever take funds out of your account without authorization, it's fraud and worse (for them) it is traceable.  That's why they won't do anything with your information, contrary to threats they make.  The money from your account has to go somewhere, and either your bank or a law enforcement agency can determine where the money was routed.  As a bank customer you are protected - you'd get the stolen money back in your account after 7-10 business days and the bank would be temporarily out the funds deducted from your account while they conducted their investigation.  The bank, along with law enforcement, would track down the fraudsters and apprehend them.  The fraudsters do not want to incur the wrath of a bank, just extort money out of you.  Remember that.    

Your authorization would absolve the bank from any and all liability, leaving you holding the bag.  Never give them authorization for anything - for all you know the call is recorded.  

2) We have no information on them.

Seriously, this has been going on at least since 2008, possibly longer than that based on some accounts. (6 years??? Holy crap!)  You would think someone would have slipped up by now.  Sadly, they haven't.  We can continue to grow our own intel on them and compile lists of aliases and phone numbers used, along with paraphrases of scripts used in order to educate other victims.  I'm actually putting together a site now in the meantime where I'll host audio files and lists of previous numbers used.  800notes.com is great, but no two calls are exactly the same.  It would be nice to have a site dedicated to the scam and how it works.

So that's where I am with these calls.  I have suffered no monetary loss, though I have been harassed both at home and at work.  They threaten me with arrest and other "fun" things in order to get me convinced I have to pay them.  My friends and family have been targeted and local and federal law enforcement agencies haven't been able to put a stop to things.  So, it is what it is.  I am out a wireless phone number I had for roughly six years, which is terrible since I was using that line when looking for a new job.  

Whenever I'm bored I spoof my number using Google Voice and return the calls.  I've called them the poster children for birth control, etc.  Basically a lot of nasty things that I'm sure the moderators here wouldn't appreciate me repeating - bottom line nothing nice.  I always like to close saying their parents must be real proud knowing their sons weren't man enough to get real jobs.  That usually gets a decent response.  

Way I see it - they can't do anything to me. (Despite a threat yesterday that my life would be f'ed up)  They can threaten all they want but my credit is frozen and my bank information has changed.  I've changed the only number they could really access me directly on and I've instructed my employer and family to not answer the calls.  I just call and harass them now when I find a few extra seconds.  What's the worst they can do to me?  Charge me with harassment?  

Nope, then they would have to identify themselves.

Oh, and don't bother contacting Cashnet USA about the calls.  Their "fraud" department could honestly care less.  Their "investigation" is merely a means of buerocratic CYA.  I would even be surprised at this point if actual law enforcement is involved in any shape, way or form at this time.  

There is a good chance that the information these crooks have on us was obtained from Cashnet USA - either from a database leak or from a collector that was once authorized by Cashnet to call on delinquent customers.  The other chance is they have access to Teletrack, and pulled all of our information off of there.

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-274-1143/3

For at least the last four years, possibly longer, a group has been calling former payday loan applicants advising them that they have defrauded a bank and are now being sued for non-payment of a loan.  The callers will claim to be calling on behalf of an attorney's office (name varies), the Dept. of Law and Investigation, ACS, or other similar combinations below:

United Legal Processing Division
Midline Marketing
Crime Monitoring Services
Monetary Crime Division
U.S. National Bank
Attorney General?s Office (usually in California)
American Legal Services
Affidavit Consolidation Services (ACS)

You will be threatened with arrest, a costly trial and possibly worse.  In no shape, way or form can you be arrested for non-payment on a consumer debt.  Do not believe these threats, as they are without merit and cannot be carried out in the manner they allege.  

Who are they?

In the past when pressed by law enforcement for an address, the callers have provided the following information:

David Morgan and Associates
Morgan & Associates
Morgan Associates
954-727-8481
1155 Northwest 85th Street
Wintergarden, Florida  33150
(Address is likely invalid)

The collector's MO matches a once legit collections agency called Ellis Crosby & Associates.  Here are some links on them:

http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/ellis_crosby_and_associates.htm
http://www.budhibbs.com/collectorpages/EllisCrosbyJudgment.pdf

They have been previously fined over $1.3 million for various violations.  They have been known to use phone banks in India to make their calls, which more or less coincides with the difficult to understand accent many of us detect when we are contacted.  

The last time this group went by any "official" name was back in 2008:

Ellis Crosby & Associates / Douglas & Morgan Associates
4494 Southside Boulevard Suite #200
Jacksonville Florida 32216
Phone:  800-928-3536 / (904) 928-3536
(Address is likely invalid)

There are NUMEROUS consumer alerts out against this group of individuals:

Florida:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/061107/met_176207561.shtml

Kansas:  
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/01/ks_debt_collection.html

Colorado:  
http://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/ ... lls_likely_orig

Rhode Island:  
http://www.collectionscreditrisk.com/news/rho ... -3002135-1.html

West Virginia:
http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm

Missouri:
On July 15th, 2010 a Public Awareness Bulletin was sent out by Missouri Information Analysis Center.  

"..received reports from individuals in Ohio and Illinois reference suspicious telephone calls they received. In both instances, the callers are reporting that a voicemail is received from a man, with a Middle Eastern accent, identifying himself as an officer working with the Financial Crimes Unit.  The message indicates that the reason for the call concerns a loan made by the receiver or someone in the receiver's family. The voicemail requests that a return call be made and a telephone number is provided. When a return call is made, the caller is asked to provide personal identifying information such as their date of birth and social security number.

Reports indicate that the calls are frequent and persistent and that they even threaten arrest or legal action if information or money is not provided. It appears that the individuals making these calls may have access to some records connecting individuals and their relatives.  Missouri does not have a Financial Crimes Unit and all indications are that this is a fictitious agency. If you receive a similar phone call, please be advised that it is a scam and please contact your local law enforcement agency or the Missouri Information Analysis Center at 866-362-6422."

Bottom line:

Do not supply the callers with any additional information.  Inform them you have reported them to law enforcement and hang up.  If you haven't already, go ahead and report the calls to local law enforcement, your state's Attorney General and beyond.  Look up the local Secret Service branch's information in your area and get in contact with an agent there.  

If you ever applied for a cash advance online, your information is out there.  
Possible sources for the breach of your privacy are:

* The scammers obtained your information from Teletrack - a reporting agency used by many cash advance lenders to determine their risk lending to you.  The service is able to tell cash advance lenders if you have existing loans with other companies, for example.  Many state laws prohibit borrowers from having more than two cash advances out at the same time.

* The scammers created their own fake payday loan application site.  People looking for a cash advance went to the site and applied, thus freely providing the scammers with their information for malicious use at a later time.  

* The scammers were able to get into the database(s) of cash advance lenders - probable targets being Sonic Payday and Cashnet USA.  


How to protect yourself:

* Inform your employer.  You are likely getting calls at home and/or at work, so make sure your employer is aware the calls are part of a scam and to not take them seriously.  Advise the callers that they are no longer allowed to call you at work.  If they continue to call, document the date and time of the calls you received.  Save voice mails left if at all possible.  

* Change your number(s).  For some this may not be an option, for others a one-time number change can be done free of charge.

Be advised - any references you listed on your payday loan application will be contacted.  Let those people know that this is a scam, and they can disregard.

* Use Google Voice.  Google Voice is a great replacement voice mail system for just about any phone number you use.  Messages can be transcribed and voice mail recordings can be saved as mp3 files.  

Pro Tip - call the scammers with a Google Voice number before turning off your old phone numbers.  Make sure when you call you identify yourself so they can start up their script.  At any point after they have your information pulled up just hang up.  They will then start religiously calling your Google Voice number.  At this point, you are free to change your regular phone number(s) and enjoy not having these people ever call you again.  (And laugh at the fact these people are basically talking to a brick wall several times a day)

The scammers change their numbers frequently.  Law enforcement used to think it was because the callers ran out of minutes on their prepaid wireless accounts or they were shuttered due to fraud, but now they understand it's simply to evade detection by savvy consumers online.  With the proliferation of VoIP, it's even easier for the crooks to stay a couple of steps ahead of law enforcement.  Below is just a sampling of the 30+ numbers that have been used in recent memory.

1-201-244-7722
1-209-349-7382
1-209-797-2212
1-212-500-0839
1-213-256-0408
1-213-995-3039
1-281-763-0433
1-347-289-3902
1-347-844-6817
1-347-844-6831
1-424-354-4270
1-516-232-8905
1-516-232-8935
1-518-212-0219
1-561-300-8018
1-561-210-4185
1-626-200-4646
1-631-456-4041
1-646-274-1143
1-646-810-8635
1-650-241-4604
1-707-401-4056
1-707-633-2789
1-708-401-0535
1-716-442-2824
1-717-862-4080
1-718-705-8669
1-760-514-0132
1-760-563-5384
1-772-318-4938
1-850-201-1111
1-858-777-1977
1-859-908-2281
1-866-860-4509
1-877-226-7488
1-888-706-7463
1-888-771-9249
1-888-785-4479
1-909-327-4870
1-831-607-9214
1-972-674-3753
1-646-918-5211
1-206-202-4942
1-206-337-7992
1-206-339-8218
1-561-318-0446
1-585-250-8090
1-347-827-0921
1-607-398-0725
1-909-233-7338
1-888-610-5486
1-585-861-9940
1-909-233-7338
1-646-416-9016
1-805-262-6170
1-661-270-6724
1-561-705-0140
1-310-807-0220
1-347-637-6473
1-951-582-4832
1-909-503-0682
1-818-579-7691
1-347-321-6497
1-206-629-9392
1-818-532-9007
1-310-853-3491
1-888-387-1419
1-850-602-9388
1-760-269-3825



So can they really do anything to you?

It's not a simple yes or no answer.  Logic dictates that, if they really wanted to take you for a ride and drain your bank accounts, they already would have.  

So, why haven't they?  

Authorization.  

Why do you think you are being called so much?  Perhaps it is because they like the sound of your voice?  No, they have to have your authorization to take any form of payment from you, period.  The callers know their audience, and that audience is typically a bunch of people that have applied for payday loans in the past.  Most of those people they call couldn't afford an attorney if they wanted one, and are so used to receiving collections calls that so long as they sound like a real collector, they will likely be perceived as one.

Furthermore, they don't even really want to talk to your attorney - that just sounds official and scary enough.  A real attorney would take the callers to task and write them off as two-bit con artists.  The callers need you, in writing, to authorize payment against the fictitious debt they claim you owe.  Go ahead, ask them for proof you owe the debt - more commonly known as verification of debt.  See what they say.  A phone authorization carries very little weight, so if they have something signed by you on file, you are done for - and the callers know that.  That authorization is the only thing these callers are doing by the book, and for good reason.  If they just went all willy nilly and made an ACH debit from your checking account, without your written approval, you could in turn report the transaction as fraudulent to your financial institution.  In about 7-10 business days, you would get the funds returned to your account.  Then the scammers would be up against a bank and their team of lawyers and investigators.  

Bottom line:

If you haven't paid the callers a dime, don't.  If you planned on paying them to shut them up, just don't.  Remember - you are not being contacted by a legally licensed, ethically owned and operated collector.  Read up on the FDCPA - http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre27.pdf - and know your rights.

PS--The FBI sent out a Press Release on this scam just last week:

Extortion Scam Related to Delinquent Payday Loans

Washington, D.C.
December 07, 2010  FBI National Press Office
(202) 324-3691

? filed under: Press Release

The Internet Crime Complaint Center has received many complaints from victims of payday loan telephone collection scams. Callers claim the victim is delinquent in a payday loan and must repay the loan to avoid legal consequences. The callers purport to be representatives of the FBI, Federal Legislative Department, various law firms, or other legitimate-sounding agencies. They claim to be collecting debts for companies such as United Cash Advance, U.S. Cash Advance, U.S. Cash Net, and other Internet check-cashing services.

According to complaints received from the public, the callers have accurate data about victims, including Social Security numbers, dates of birth, addresses, employer information, bank account numbers, and the names and telephone numbers of relatives and friends. How the fraudsters obtained the personal information varies, but in some cases victims have reported they completed online applications for other loans or credit cards before the calls started.

The fraudsters relentlessly call the victim?s home, cell phone, and place of employment. They refuse to provide any details about the alleged payday loans and become abusive when questioned. The callers have threatened victims with legal actions, arrests, and, in some cases, physical violence if they do not pay. In many cases, the callers harass victims? relatives, friends, and employers.

Some fraudsters have instructed victims to fax a statement agreeing to pay a certain amount, on a specific date, via a pre-paid Visa card. The statement further declares the victim will never dispute the debt.

If you receive these calls, do not follow the caller?s instructions. Rather, you should:

Notify your banking institutions.
Contact the three major credit bureaus and request an alert be put on your file.
Contact your local law enforcement agencies if you feel you are in immediate danger.
File a complaint at www.IC3.gov.
Tips to avoid becoming a victim of this scam:

Never give your Social Security number?or personal information of any kind?over the telephone or online unless you initiate the contact.
Be suspicious of any e-mail with urgent requests for personal financial information. The e-mail may include upsetting or exciting but false statements to get you to react immediately.
Avoid filling out forms in e-mail messages that request personal information.
Ensure that your browser is up-to-date and security patches have been applied.
Check your bank, credit, and debit card statements regularly to make sure that there are no unauthorized transactions. If anything looks suspicious, contact your bank and all card issuers.
When you contact companies, use numbers provided on the back of cards or statements

http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/paydayloanscam_120710
can't take this anymore
can't take this anymore
2011-09-16 12:23:36
Unknown
all of you need to call the attorney general and the ftc 1-877-382-4357 to let them now so they can find them and stop them if we kkep giving them their inforation.the attorney general # is 1-800-657-3602
Come find me
Come find me
2011-09-15 18:03:56
Debt Collector
These people have also called my place of employment and cell,
Im fed up with them, I was really scared but after reading all these complaints I know
They are a scam.
Farfalla1973
Farfalla1973
2011-09-13 15:07:50
Event Reminder
282-726-2524 showed up on my called ID, I didn't answer and seconds later I got a call from Roger Davis @ 17602693825 with the same PDL scam script...I had several months without the bothering me, guess its time for another go around.
can't take this any more
can't take this any more
2011-09-12 23:17:04
Debt Collector
getting calls on my cell phone that i owe money and need to deal with this right away or an officer is coming to arrest me. then they calling my job also now.what can i do to stop this my boss is upset that they keep calling.THEY HAVE CALLED MY WORK 5 TIMES AND MY CELL 10 TIMES.
Sue
Sue
2011-09-12 19:59:12
Unknown
This Allen also calls
Melanie
Melanie
2011-09-07 19:28:10
Debt Collector
These people keeping call me on my cell and at my job. My boss told me today if I get one more phone call like I had today, I wouldn't have a job. I don't know who these people are but they need to stop. The last thing this guy said to me was"Melanie, if you do not call, all I can do for you, is wish you the best, as the situation unfolds".  Are you kidding me. This is not right, and someone needs to stop these people.
sellis
sellis
2011-09-06 16:49:26
Unknown
I will join forces with you to stop these scammers, I just got a call from these idiots.
Miriam Lapena
Miriam Lapena
2011-08-19 20:21:55
Debt Collector
Next time never give a call to me I know you people are doing a scam. Thanks for 800notes to guide me.
Orthopedics Technician
Orthopedics Technician
2011-08-10 11:25:11
Debt Collector
August 10, 2011

Came into work this morning and there was a message on my physicians answering machine.  It was from Mark Thomas and it was urgent that I contact him or my attorney of record as this matter was time sensitive.  This man had a heavy accent and I could bairly understand him.

He also said that he could only wish me luck as this matter unfolds.  Yes I had payday loans over the internet but have successfuly paind them off or paying them off without trouble but this will be the last time I do that ever.

I have been getting calls on my cell phone but no messages are left along with hangups.  This is the first call to my place of employment in about 2 weeks so I guess here we go again,

I agree that this is a SCAM and never return any of their calls.
Hilarious
Hilarious
2011-08-01 16:34:22
Debt Collector
I received a call from Office Ron Jackson.  He said I was in big trouble and if I didn't give him a call back today, someone was going to arrest me.  I'm not stupid.  First of all, you can't be arrested for any unpaid debt.  That was told to me directly from an attorney generals office.  Secondly, what kind of law office says "your in big trouble".  Really?!  Don't expect a callback from me anytime soon.
Red951
Red951
2011-07-28 20:11:23
Debt Collector
HAHAHAHAAA...Just got a phone call from Kevin Morgan.  Maybe if he spoke english I could understand.  The funny thing is...I'm suppose to be waiting for the police to come take me to court and he will have me arrested.  COME ON OVER, I'll make Tacos!!

Have NEVER APPLIED FOR A PAYDAY LOAN...I don't have a JOB and been unemployed for 1 yr.  

Waiting for call #3 so I can file a complaint for harassment....Let the game begin MR. MORGAN.


Good Luck and PLEASE BE SMART...Don't FALL FOR HIS BS!!!
Miguelmommy
Miguelmommy
2011-07-25 20:53:51
Unknown
Marc,

This is a scam!!!!!! If you gave them permission to go into your account there is nothing you can do but close your account and advise your bank IMMEDIATELY. If they take money out of your account without your permission then they can be charged with a felony. If you can contact your bank and see if they can trace where the money is going to then you can contact your local authorities and give the information. They have been calling me like crazy for the last 5 months, if they were real do you not think all their threats would of become true? Also, based on the FDPCA (Fair Debt  Collections Practice Act) they are not supposed to leave details on your voicemail which they do, they can not harass you, threaten you, YOU WOULD NEVER be arrested money owed unless you right bad checks, police will not come to your job and you do not need an attorney for collection calls.  Let me know if you need help to get this resolved.  GOOD LUCK!
Mitch
Mitch
2011-07-19 17:35:18
Debt Collector
Receving calls from this number every day.. Is there any way of stopping these people.
Gaylee HC Brenner
Gaylee HC Brenner
2011-07-07 00:13:32
Unknown
The man spoke with a foreign accent.  He did not have my name correct and told me I better return his call and not to ignore it or he could not help me.  He then wished me good luck and have a nice day and cautioned me again to call or have my attorney.  The first time the number he gave me to call was 760-269-3825 then the second time he repeated the number as 760-669-3825 and called him self Albert Bernard.  I believe this is a scam with terrorist tactics and I am appalled that they (meaning criminals) continue to get away with this type of thing.  Very unsettling..
bob
bob
2011-07-06 17:14:56
Debt Collector
this guy says he is Officer Kevin and says there outside to take me in...
says I owe money... what a scam
ANTONIA
ANTONIA
2011-06-18 17:48:55
Unknown
I got 12 calls from this number in a row yesterday! They would hang up and call right back. The only calls i got were from 6pm-6:45pm (no other time of the day). After about the 10th call, they finally left me a mesage saying his name was Kevin Morgan and basically as everyone else has said, that if i don't return the call all he can do is wish me luck. I tried to call the number back today and it's not even ringing (no dial tone, no busy signal, just silence and hangs up). Glad i looked the number up to try and see where it was coming from! I was scared to death!
Kamren
Kamren
2011-06-15 23:30:39
Debt Collector
SCAM SCAM SCAM DO NOT PAY A DIME!!
I have recieved a phone call from this phone number along with many others like it claiming to be a Mr. David Michael White from a law office. I finally got one of them to give their bar number, as they always refuse. I cross checked it with the Texas (where they claimed to be from) database and called the ACTUAL office of this lawyer and spoke with his assistant. She assured me that I wasn't the only person who had called about this problem and that it was not legitimate.

These people are tarnishing the reputation of well respected and hard working AMERICAN attorneys.
Their phone numbers are from the US but they are not located here, my best guess is that they use a program that bings from different locations in the US.

If you have already paid them something, you'll probably never see that money again, they are not from the US and are not subject to our laws. (The lawyer reported them to the FBI, and what I've been told by his assistant is that all searches regarding this has led them to believe they are not actually in the US borders)
Always keep track of the companies you accept money from and the amount loaned and ALWAYS cross check any phone calls you recieve with these companies. It is far better to walk into a check'n'go and ask, then to pay up and ask questions later.

DEBT COLLECTORS WILL NOT REPRESENT THEMSELVES AS LEGAL OFFICIALS EITHER!!!
BE AWARE IF YOU ARE CONTACTED BY A "LAW OFFICE" REGARDING A PAYDAY LOAN!!!
Jeffrey
Jeffrey
2011-06-06 20:56:30
Unknown
They keep calling my work number.
jane doe
jane doe
2011-06-06 20:56:30
Unknown
keeps calling my cell phone and place of employment saying i owe money
Marc Miles
Marc Miles
2011-05-26 18:54:17
Debt Collector
I got a call from this number and I think I got scammed. I googled another number and saw these post and then I googled the 760 269 3825 number. I also been talking to a Officer Kevin Morgan and a Alan Watson.

I have made 3 payments and I have records of the payments. Who can I call to report this
jordan
jordan
2011-05-17 18:36:43
Unknown
MATRIXMOM676 IM READY WHEN YOU ARE TO HELP SHUT THEM DOWN!! FRIGGIN' SCAMMERS!sic of them
MATRIXMOM676
MATRIXMOM676
2011-05-09 23:57:51
Debt Collector
this is so annoying, i have filed several police reports in regards to the harassing phone calls i have been receiving, after i filed the first one 2 months ago the phone calls stopped, however, they started up again today, they even called my place of employment!!!

So i called the number back and asked this Allen Vatson (watson,but you know these dumb a** c**** jockeys can't pronounce their w's) for the address to this establishment, and he gave me the following fake address
11101 Central Ave, LosAngeles, CA 90006

so i googled this address, and either has to be S. Central Ave or N. Central Ave, because this is the only way the map will bring it up, and the zip code is actually 90059 at this particular address.
this people are running a big a** scam, and I intend to do my best to shut them down, i hope everyone else is just as ready!!!
FEDUP!!!!
FEDUP!!!!
2011-04-26 16:27:27
Unknown
These people keeping calling with different companies and different names and can't even speak English plain - leaves the same old message every day... I am tired of get - get a real job people and quit scamming us......I have turned off my answering machine at home so you scammers won't call and I have told the people at work to just hang up - I will not take anymore messages for you idots.
They also have an 888 number now - getting "high class" - HA!!!!!!!  Give up people I am fed up - don't call me anymore.....
Barb
Barb
2011-04-22 16:58:12
Debt Collector
ANOTHER call from a female (they are switching it up, but have the same message), Jess Cooper was her "name".  She left the same old message, "Barb, if you do not call, all I can do for you, is wish you the best, as the situation unfolds".  
They are completely rediculous and trying to scam us....
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