this is the same company that Tyler Long from  CEO, NorthStar Advisory Group, LLC http://www.northstaradvisorygroup.com/  & Troy McCawley http://www.emmunize.net/

i never got my refund , i never got anything but the run around.

the new scam is www.postaljobsauthority.com Robert Hanna is the owner ,

https://plus.google.com/102520358516270233661/posts/YvryyfyHrfP

http://www.bbb.org/central-alabama/business-r ... oss-ga-90095134
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/troy-mccawley/27/83a/10a

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj4cfis-dYE

http://www.emmunize.net/

http://www.northstaradvisorygroup.com/

http://www.bbb.org/central-alabama/business-r ... h.968nXJEw.dpuf

Where did you get your information? I know for a fact that there is no bartering, or illegal anything happening with any Better Business Bureau. Companies pay by the size of their company (how many employees they have, and how many locations). They also pay extra if they want to be included for online BBB membership.

I am sorry that you feel this way. The Better Business Bureau does not lie. Regardless where the person calling you originally gets your company's name from, they do not call you until they have done preliminary research on your company. They have to make sure that you have never claimed bankruptcy, that you don't' have any unanswered, or unsatisfied complaints, and that you qualify. The Better Business Bureau is not going to invite someone to become a member if they don't practice good business. I know this because I worked for 3 different Better Business Bureaus for 8 years. This is what I did, was to invite companies to apply for membership. Just so you know, once you apply, this does not guarantee that you are a member. They also do background checks on the owners and officers of the company to make sure that they, themselves haven't claimed bankruptcy, and that they are not crooked.

Same call. Voicemail that it was from the BBB. Nasty sounding woman - very terse. Did not mention my business by name despite the fact the voicemail has a generic greeting. Just a standard spammy call "for the business owner". Called from an 800 number and expected me to call an 828 number. What a crock! I don't call back to non-originating numbers.

LOL

In fact she is not with the BBB - this is a scam

I just got a phone call from the BBB Business Relations Department, so I ran home and checked and found this blog.

I have been in business for 22 years and have always tried to be fair in all the aspects of my business and EVERYTHING is in writing before a client puts their child into my child care center.

The only time I have had problems was when a local competitor used our state licensing department to harass me, so my first thought was SHE'S BACK.

You are correct, it sounds very official and urgent. Scared the living daylights out of me.  Waiting for her call back now.

Caller identified himself as Robert Allan   from BBB  and asked the owner of our company to call him back at 800-429-9142  Ext. 231.  We used to get these calls last year as well from a "different" person  at the BBB.

Yeah ole beverly ought to have her a** whipeed! She scared the s*** out of me.

Thank you!! Just got the call and yes I was a business owner years ago and they scared the crap out of me because I'm thinking what could this be all about. I've been out of business for years. But with the way people file lawsuits these days you never know. I'm thinking oh hell is someone mad because I cut there grass and it grew back? Lol

Beverly Clark just called my office phone.  I called her back and got voice mail.  I Googled the name and number and see Im not the only one.

JC I have told them for years I don't want to be a part of the BBB. I'm not saying it a bad thing to have a BBB, just stop bothering my business. When calling my business for business when I have already expressed I'm not interested, makes the BBB to me an unnecessary annoyance just like telemarketing.
What I care about is my customers and any time I take to inquire about anything other than their needs take value away from my services to them. I have got the same invitations from the BBB, our business has been up for the last four years because when time like these come your customers remember who gave then great service and best value. In over 15 years of business I have only received one complaint and the BBB sided with me.

You are exactly right the same has been happening to my business for years. I tell them I'm not interested and will never join.

This company is a marketing firm out of Florida representing the BBB, they call my business left a message to call them. I instead call the local BBB and found out they were in fact a marketing firm representing the BBB. I explained to the local BBB I was on the national do not call registry and that means the BBB as well. I then filed a complaint, what do this say about the BBB. I hope you all will do the same and maybe they will get the message.

I would never pay a fee to say that the BBB said I was a good business. My work speaks for it self. If you seen the report a few months back about what happens if you don't renew with the BBB. They slam you. Your rating drops and you have to pay a high amount to get the best raiting... SCAM... Ill keep my money and will be fine. Every one wants the dollar thats all it is.

Call Type, Telemarketer: Just like the rest of the scams out there. Thank god for my Android and auto block.

Got a very official and scary sounding message from Mitch Davis at extension 110. Glad I found this website. Very helpful.
Probably harmless to talk to them but I don't think the $ will get you too much.

Not true.

I got the same message from monica

Caller left message on my business phone, " this is the BBB, Monica Rod, 1-800-429-9142, ex 236. (words tothe effct) kindly return my call, I'll be in the office till 5.'

Reprotedly the BBB pressures firms to join by giving them a bad rating when they receive a comlaint, but keeps giving members a good rating regardless of omplaints.

They don't serve any useful purpose

HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED CALLING THE BBB AND ASKING ABOUT IF THIS CALL IS LEGIT?  I DID, AND IN FACT, IT WAS A REAL PHONE CALL, AND IT WAS THE BBB.  I CALLED DIRECTORY ASSISTANCE AND THEY CONNECTED ME TO THE BBB, AND I ASKED ABOUT (NAME) AND THEY SAID THEY DO WORK THERE.  WHEN IN DOUBT, CALL THE BBB.  IT IS WORTH THE VERIFICATION!
JJ

called today, April 22, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. EST. He said he was Steve Guzo from the BBB at ext. 231.

Calls and says he is Eric from the BBB

it is a very corrupt organization----check out the moosic/scranton office for example-----many things have been in the press but i want to mention one important one here ----the same size firms do not pay the same fees-----there were firms with over 400 employees paying less than 500 dollars---firm with about 600 employees paying about 350-----many pay nothing--they supposedly "barter"-----the people that work there will do anything to get some money flowing in---it keeps them in an easy job with great pay and benefits-----------someday there should be a class action suit---if members knew where their money went they would be in shock !-----phantom payrolls-----pay to vendors (friends or relatives  of employees or board members themselves )---------------get your money back and close this and other predatory offices of the bbb down

The BBB as a whole IS the pinnacle of ethics in business and charities alike. It was only when they went to bed with JP Marketing, that they lost their way and woke up with a serious case of herpes. The mission of the BBB is a good one across all verticles. However, how can they tell consumers to stay clear of telemarketers while they employ the same tactics when using John "ASSFACE" Ponder's phone sales method. I do believe they are starting to see and correct the errors of their ways and wisely reverting back to field sales where a rep actually comes to a place of business and does a full interview. Then the info is brought back and the company is fully vetted before membership is granted.
Many still use the face to face approach. And they should.

I received a similar call and simply advised them that I do not respond to telephone inquiries for info of this type and asked them to mail me a questionnaire and I would gladly reply. The caller replied "Thank You" and hung up. When/If I receive documents I can then verify mailing address and respond accordingly.

Check this out! This guy calls me saying he is with the BBB.  So naturally I give them a hard time, because his call says PRIVATE CALL.  I put him on hold and I call the BBB to ask about him.  They said "Yes he does work here".  So, I went back to the conversation a little scared because I was being rude to who I thought was a telemarketer.  Turns out he was inviting me to join because I had NO complaints on my company.  I have been in business too long to get my reputation burned on one lame person, so I applied over the phone.  Two weeks later I was accepted.  I got approved.  I looked up some competition in my area and some have complaints.  I know I run a better ship than they do, and now I can prove it!

Corrupt to the CORE...I had one WV bussiness owner say..405.00 annual fee!! Last year they offered it to me for 275.00. I said, are you sure that it was the BBB and NOT a chamber ? Yes, she said. Here is what I have strong reason to suspect..the questions , or rebuttals posed to the owner are NOT for my aid as a marketer, but ASSIST the company member listening in on the call to spot a potential buyer who is balking at the 405.00 and would welcome it at 277.00. I HAVE DONE THE WORK and SEE NO GAIN.There is another company in town where they offer a GSA contract for 7500 and over in the next building sits those listening in on that call and they call back and offer it for 1500. If employees were told up front that this was the case..then there should be nothing to gripe about..THIS IS NOT THE CASE.The STATE OF FLORIDA KNOWS ABOUT THESE COMPANIES AND WILL NOT POLICE THE THEIF FROM SMALL LITTLE PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MY CO-WORKERS. I AM BEGINNING TO HATE THIS SOCIETY BECAUSE EVERYWHERE I LOOK IS A SCAM AND THOSE IN THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT STOP THEM SO I AM LEFT TO WONDER JUST WHO IS INVOLVED.

Corrupt.....so corrupt that I want to run an ad asking that former employees join me in a class action suit...I got hired and they spotted me as the most likely to do well on the phone..they sat me next to an employee with 7 yrs in the company...he never PROSPECTED with cold calls. I worked my A** off from 8-4:30 M-F. The latest CREW hired generated a lot of call ins from SCARED business owners thinking they were party to an complaint. Those calls at this COMMISSION ONLY job were supposed to go to the marketer who generated the call...however they were passed to two of the older people with the company and then they could make the most bucks.HOWEVER I was NOT told that what I generated could be passed off to a friend,on the owners payroll. I had  owners say,,,fax it over. I did and they bought from me. I STOPPED leaving a message,that is an scare tactic to an owner. I told them up front what the call was about...Two of the managers were actively routing my call ins to others and even after they saw I was good..put two other reps in the state I called..and to prevent my numbers from going too the higher pay range, routed my calls to others in the same state.The managers arrived early and I kept finding my phone that had messages before I left , with NO mesages when I got back.I also was forwarded the same message over and over from different extensions,,AFTER I HAD ERASED IT.The option to forward was a phone feature.I ask why the two older people did not work like the rest of us did...and they then said..we give them the call ins. HELL no I never signed on to make anyone a check, but me with my efforts..I kept finding and implementing ways to prevent the theft of my production by the internal managers of a company doing marketing for the BBB..I.E. when an owner said fax it over...I was forbidden to fax, unless I got a check or credit card..I said OK hold on..I will fax and take the card all in one motion....I was fired today and the reason was that, I told a co- worker that big brother has cameras all thru the town and can even see the auto tags as we drive in town and who knows that down computer could be an audit...I guess the thief who had been passed some of my call ins got concerned...what an an asinine thing to pass our hard work to a few of the older crew and there and THEN give them an award for the MOST production and a FAT check. You are correct that fees vary based on how high they think they can get away with in an area. It is not fair, nor based consistent for each state. The concept of the BBB is great, but it is still in my opinion party to a scam. This job paid commission on a sliding scale and part of the job was that we had to take leads home and look them up at night..and it it takes hours of time for which I and the others received no pay. Please do NOT suggest an FLORIDA attorney cause they will NOT go against the way it is.The STATE of FLORIDA will NOT protect the wages of HONEST phone sales reps.

Corrupt to the CORE...I had one WV bussiness owner say..405.00 annual fee!! Last year they offered it to me for 275.00. I said, are you sure that it was the BBB and NOT a chamber ? Yes, she said. Here is what I have strong reason to suspect..the questions , or rebuttals posed to the owner are NOT for my aid as a marketer, but ASSIST the company member listening in on the call to spot a potential buyer who is balking at the 405.00 and would welcome it at 277.00. I HAVE DONE THE WORK and SEE NO GAIN.There is another company in town where they offer a GSA contract for 7500 and over in the next building sits those listening in on that call and they call back and offer it for 1500. If employees were told up front that this was the case..then there should be nothing to gripe about..THIS IS NOT THE CASE.The STATE OF FLORIDA KNOWS ABOUT THESE COMPANIES AND WILL NOT POLICE THE THEIF FROM SMALL LITTLE PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MY CO-WORKERS. I AM BEGINNING TO HATE THIS SOCIETY BECAUSE EVERYWHERE I LOOK IS A SCAM AND THOSE IN THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT STOP THEM SO I AM LEFT TO WONDER JUST WHO IS INVOLVED.

You received a call from JP Marketing, a private telemarketing company that pays its employees the minimum wage while the owner John Ponder and a few of his close friends get rich from the commission the not-for-profit BBB's pay for incresed membership.  You are told that BBB accreditation is "by invitation only", which is not true. Telemarketers work off telephone book leads and lie that the company they are calling has been pre-approved.     In this economy, the BBB is not your wisest investment.  They very often report unfavorably on industries that telemarket, yet resort to the same tactic themselves, but add a little "lie" here and there as well.