Amen to that!!!! No one gives you any warning before someone serves you or takes you to jail. LOL Yes... let's give you a heads up that it's coming. NOT!

Same thing happens to me. I don't run from debt! If I owe something I might have missed I am more than willing to pay it... but I do NOT owe this debit. Tell them to call your attorney and they laugh at you and hang up

These people at this number have lost their minds! I called my attorney who called their office and they still want to call me a liar. This is not my debt... I have sent them proof it's not my debt. No way could it be my debt I wasn't even around when this debt took place, yet somehow they have my SS number. They tell me their an attorneys office but when I asked who was calling they told me Ultimate Dispute Resolution... which is it? NOT to mention my attorney who is always on retainer said that most of you above are correct... a debt is a civil matter not a criminal matter. They do NOT have the power to have anyone send a sheriff out to do anything to you. How do they find our family and friends I have no idea but I warn you all.... stay clear of this company their tactics are against the law and oddly this time I can say we're protected by the law. They will not give you proof of the debt when asked for them to send me proof and documentation I was told it was sealed and only the District Attorney's office can open the file... Ummm really! When the call tell them to do what they have to do and that you're reporting them. I can't wait to hear what my attorney reports back to me this time. Oh one more thing when I offered to give "Annabela" the phone number to my attorney's office she hung up on me. I guess a lot of people just pay them out of fear.. Do your research!!!!!!!!!

Notice the Suspect posts. This is exactly tue way the girl talked to me on the phone. She cussed me out and said good luck with my life because I wouldn't pay. I asked for the conpany info and she wouldn't give it to me instead told me off. Everytime they call I answer and play along then tell them they are a scam and whoever I'm speaking with gets real hostile and hangs up. Tell them you are filing a report with thr FBI and listen to their reaction. They have called me about 20. I've called them back after being hung up on abd they answer with just a Hello and as soon as they know its me they hang up again.

What??? Are you insinuating people here are guilty?  Do they owe money simply because you claim they owe money?  In this case, the burden of proof is on you, the collector (or shill acting on behalf of collector) to validate that the debt is legitimate, and is owned by the caller.  How hard is that?

and why do you have to write these terrible long paragraphs.. geessshhh get a life. bye everyone good luck. i havent met so many inncoent mad folks. only way you get mad is if it hurt. and obviuously you people are hurt. bye and continue to argue about how innocent you are.

can you read??? i guess you are not educated enough to respond either??? lol i said my lawyer told me i would be better off paying it then having to go to court and actually having to pay for his services. that's called advice dum a**

One point the shills ignore is that in a lot of these cases the person being called never borrowed the money.

But I'll be honest enough to say that there are also people who hide from bill collectors over money they really did borrow.  In most of those cases, either the money was borrowed out of desperation, or they simply cannot afford to pay AND eat and heat their home and all.  Often the lending was predatory at ridiculous interest rates.  

You might say, "I don't care! They still have to pay!"   But I say they should at least know what legal rights they have, know they cannot go to jail for not paying debts, period, and know when companies are unethically lying to make them think that specific consequences will occur which cannot actually occur.

Two other points:  The most unethical debt collectors are usually companies who aren't really owed the money, even if it was really borrowed.  They buy debts, often expired debts, for pennies on the dollar-- and then try to collect the whole thing.  

The other thing is the statute of limitations:  It varies from state to state, but is usually around 7 years.  Debts older than that are no longer legally owed.  The bottom feeders will claim they are still owed...but they aren't.  They'll still call and harass you about it, but if it did come up in civil court the judge would throw it out as stale debt.  I personally say that if you no longer legally owe it, don't pay it, at least if the collector is not the company you actually would owe (but has sold the debt and taken pennies on the dollar).

Oh my goodness...you seem to be tripping over your words, shill.  First you say "my lawyer told me"  then you say "I'd have to hire a lawyer."  Seems you can't keep your lies straight.  You should write it all down so you can lie better!

"UnReal" - what an apt name.

Their, there, they're: A sure sign of a shill when these go wrong!

Not a chance there, SHILL! The only way anyone should pay a bill to a debt collector is AFTER a notice of validation has been received (By mail, NOT e-mail or fax.) and has been VERIFIED.  
No one should EVER pay a debt collector based on information given to you over the phone. If it's not in writing in front of you, and you haven't verified it, pay the collector NOTHING. The ONLY debt collectors that won't supply you with proof of their claims in writing are the fraudulent and/or bogus operators that are trying to collect invalid, time-barred o purely fictitious debts.
Know your rights under the FDCPA. It's easy, just Google it. And then you can tell clowns, like this one here, to....
Skeff Ett Liv!
Gunnar

Oh really, what types of servers are those, in a restaurant?   You want some fries with that shake shill?

Do you really expect consumers to believe someone calls to give warning before they serve someone with legal documents?  Seriously?  Additionally, why on earth did you just happen to wander in this thread to post this comment?

This is absolutely terrible advice, either you are a shill planting false information on the Internet, or you should not give advice about anything, period.  I'm not sure you can even read.  Did the poster you are replying to ever indicated they owed a debt?  I don't believe you have a lawyer (or if you do, they should be disbarred) based on the advice you claimed they gave you.  What about getting validation of the debt?  What "legal bs" are you talking about?  Debt is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.  No sheriff is ever going to serve a warrant over a debt.  The whole advice about "making sure when all payments are done they send you a paid letter." is right out of the shill playbook.

So why on Earth did you arrive at this thread to dispense this horrific advice?  Simply because you are an altruistic individual?  Nice try

well most servers use there personal lines... there independent and work for the state. hope the best for you, seems serious

you should pay what you owe, im just saying from experience i have been going through this for years. my lawyer told me id be better off paying then getting into all the legal bs. i would have to hire an attorney and on top of that court fees. im just tired of the calls and the stress. so the only way to take care of the matter is doing what you have to, clearing up your credit and making sure when all payments are done they send you a paid letter.. good luck

Got the same call, today (1/3/14). A "Lori Martin" - "a professional process server" is going to come to my home on Monday with a sheriff - and that I should make sure there's someone there to take care of my kids, and that any dogs be tied up when they come". I live in Massachusetts, her phone number 567-694-6817, traces to Toledo, OH. So I seriously doubt she'll be here...ever. I was told that I had to "call her back with a court release number, or I'll be arrested"...blah, blah, blah. The number she gave traces back to nothing whereby a company name can be found. This is the second time they've called. Interestingly, she is calling my wife's cell phone (illegal - as I haven't incurred any debt since getting married - thus, they can't leave the message they are leaving). Why don't they call me? If I had a ligitimate debt, they'd have my phone number.

Didn't "the Spider" throw the fight when he lost his title?  LOL.  Just kidding.  Funniest was when he kicked Forrest Griffin's butt and Griffin decided to escape over the top of the cage.

The use of homonyms and homophones among dirty debt collectors can be maddening, and I'm sure is deliberate. Different agencies with entirely different ownership can have soundalike names, tending toward such bland, functional word combinations which would frustrate the brand value of almost any other kind of business. I keep waiting for one to christen itself "Credit Recovery Services Management Systems Group & Associates".

I agree the lack of distinction helps with concealment, and the soundalike problem becomes more acute the more a company dares to break laws, as it adopts aliases or opens DBA branches. Hence we get to hunt down "Insert Name Here, LLC", "INH & Associates", "Name Here Capital Group", and so on. The fake PDL thugs in South Asia are the worst offenders, who I am convinced use fridge poetry magnets to select their scary names. ("United Enforcement Attorney Bureau Department of Financial Criminal Investigations Division")

Not a problem at all.  Glad it did help.  I'm still learning the ropes with phone fraud types (I have years of experience with 419 fraud and related investigations).  So any tips and tricks I can pick up are always helpful.   Although I neophyte, it does seem these shady outfits pick names that have multiple spellings (e.g., Green or Greene) or would represent very common search terms (e.g., "Union Mediation")

I'd meant only that others had been misspelling "Segal " based on what they heard on the phone. Your case citation was just the break needed to open up research. I already had notes on Giove and peers from a few years back, but wasn't aware that new heads had sprouted from the hydra.

No the point is that you scumbags bully people, invade our privacy with your ILLEGAL calls and extort money from people who do not nor have ever owed for these bogus loans. You can google your a** off but your still a scumbag.

On 800 notes there is one way to tell the difference between a "Shill says pay your bills" idiot, and a "Pay your bills" idiot. Never, never, never is it mentioned that only people who OWE bills should pay their bills. There is never mention of the fact that millions of American's are being called by foreign, 3rd world criminals, trying to extort money on fake loans, & loans that cannot be legally collected. They just spout the same all-caps fluff, time & again. Foreign criminals feigning moral outrage? That is just amusing at best.

Great post!  Thank for the point regarding the spelling --- I appreciate the education here and will try to "broaden" my search technique in the future

Proper spelling of a business name really takes us places. Here are Segal Bennett threads active in Q4 2013:
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-838-8879
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-414-8851
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-641-6961
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/8556937745
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-887-9345

SBA threads active prior:
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-716-247-6331
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-716-247-9664
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-716-568-7619
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-495-4105
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-693-7745
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-600-1202

The triple-eight number looks to be a fax line attributed to other Buffalo Bullies, including some names I haven't read for a while:
Goldstein Weinberg & Associates, LLC
Viking Recovery
Vincent P Cignarale, LLC

related threads:
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-449-0153
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/7162136269/2
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-716-213-6269/2
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-878-5796

These have all been 'brand extensions' of the former Giove "law firm", itself a flat-rated front for the notorious MacKinnon gang of extortionists, an operation so heinous the late Bud Hibbs broke from his old agency directory format to devote a whole domain name to their ridiculous volume of lawbreaking.

The Internet Archive hosts a vestigial version of that site from May 2009, the most recent capture before it became a park page. Older copies of the Hibbs notes also turn up on 800Notes and other sites concerned with consumer rights.
http://web.archive.org/web/20090505201338/htt ... iceexposed.com/

Just for the record, the grade school dropout shill is the one who began "arguing" in this thread. The knothead could have left this thread alone and not attracted a wave of debunking, but no .... Mister "Got Scam Money" simply had to put on that Moral Outrage Puppet Theater show. The truth is wrecking his little sand sculpture of fraud as he tries to contain the tide with a pushbroom.

The point of this is that you are a rank illiterate who is shilling for the company.  Many of the posters have indicated they did not take out loans, and when challenged shills such as yourself have ducked questions and continue to engage in name calling.  

Now speaking of google, every  time someone googles this number, they will arrive at this thread and see your behavior and will then realize they are being scammed.  Even better, this information will be permanently recorded so even months and years from now they will still see your behavior.  Good going!

UnReal, you are an idiot. The posts here are from people who *didn't* take out a loan. Can't you read? Or are you just to lazy to do so? Furthermore the tactics of the people making these fake debt collection calls are blatantly illegal. Even if there were a real debt involved it would be the *caller*, not the debtor, who would be in trouble with the law in these cases.

Fortunately these criminal callers aren't as intimidating as they think and, as you would have noticed if you'd bothered to read before you posted, the public is catching on to this kind of fraudulent debt collection call. I somehow suspect this last fact is what you're worried about...

The point of it all is you took out the loan how ever it goes, You should pay it back if you owe it, Stop taking them out if you KNOW your not going to pay them back, So you are the real crooks and robbers! Not the ones trying to collect on them, They helped you when you where in need now its time to pay them back, Whats so hard about that! and I googled NAPPS and they are a company that muli agencies use to pursue Debtors like yourself....

Since this shills won't address the questions posted here, I've been digging under some rocks.  The name of "National Professional Process Servers" appears in another thread here http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-495-4105 and was used by a group (out of Western NY - surprise!)  billing itself as "Segal Bennett and Associates"

Now, please be advised that "Segal Bennett and Associates" have been involved in a recent court case.  However, they were not the Plaintiff, but rather the Defendant (and it is a FDCPA case)

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/alabama/alndce/2:2013cv01715/149237

Are you going to address the questions I asked you?