These people are a dime a dozen, easy to spot.  "Felicia" from "Bret Tubergen's office" (does not initially give company name until I persist...."HCMM) has called numerous times, and I kindly explain (the first time or two) that my boss does not accept calls of this nature but that I could offer her his voice mail and suggested she leave detailed info and that he would call back if interested.  (Over speaker phone I hear him delete her messages.)  What do ya know....Mr. Bret Tubergen just happened to be in the area yesterday and pops in at the the end of the day and by luck meets my boss at the front counter.  My boss, being a nice guy and not realizing who, what, kindly exchanges business cards with BT (giving away his cell # unfortunately), says "yeah come on back tomorrow".  My boss leaves before the appointed time and with his blessing upon BT's arrival explain to him that we have zero interest and not happy with their solicitation approach.  (Earlier in the day, "Pam" called my boss's cell phone to confirm the appt.).  After BT's departure, I get calls from Candy and Julia, both from HCMM, both acting like they didn't know the other person had called....blah, blah, blah.  WE HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR DISHONEST, MANIPULATIVE PEOPLE

These are some RUDE people.  I have filed a complaint with the BBB as well as the FCC. This dummy Ray Young from the company has the nerve to have his cell phone number on the voice mail... 916-505-4245 what if we call him and be RUDE like he does to us.

They now how a new number 916-781-2554.

HCMM is no longer associated with Rob Popkey and IPA! Rob ran the business under and the original owners of HCMM found a way to rip the company away from him!

This is a fake.  Hahahaha!

Had a call from 862-220-4426, and from experience I recognized the tactic.  They got through our "first line of defense" saying they had a business oportunity.  Once they started talking I knew what was happening.  They were going to have a representative in the area, How Interesting.  I said sure come by, because if they're going to waste my time I'll waste theirs.  So I've been waiting for the guy all day, and man was I able to spot him when he walked in the door.  I calmly asked him to come outside with me, and I explained that we would not do business with them.  I explained to him how the owner of the company worked with IPS and SMS and all the other acronymns.  He didn't like it and said his owner left, and they have an A rating with the BBB, and all the other BS.  He asked me why would I draw the conculsion, and I simply told him if the he was trying to be honest and do business in a proper fashion then the tactic would be different.  The tactic is getting old, they need a new one.  Now every time they call I'm going to ask them to come on by, and turn them away.  I have no use for these clowns, but if they're going to get rich off honest people, I'm going to be sure to drive up their overhead

Whoever is traing these people is way behind the times, they sound parrot monkeys. Treat your employees with respect and you will get better results. I have had no less than 7 different people from this number call me. They all tell the same lies. "The owner will know what this is about", "He asked me to call him back", "Meeting with us will not cost anything it will save you money", We are not selling anything", "We have never had a complaint of any kind". Get real IPA Jr. and stop calling like I have asked over and over.

I got a call from this number just now - someone claiming to work for "Theresa Samudio" wanted to talk to our CEO ("or his partner") about a meeting.

Chock-full of red flags, though:
1. The gal was talking very fast - I had to have her repeat Theresa's name several times, because it kept coming out TERSAMO - which is always a sign of spam, especially when they get mad at having to talk at a normal speed.
2. She insisted her boss and my boss had a Very Important Meeting, and when I said there was no such thing in his calendar, she immediately changed tactics and said yes, this call was to reschedule that meeting.  Well, which is it, lady?
3. Once she said she was calling from HCMM (again, very slurred from the motormouthing), I said we weren't interested.

"How do you know, [Jason] hasn't even talked to Theresa.."
"You said they had when you first spoke.  Which is it?  We are not interested, please take us off your list."
"This has nothing to do with you, this call is for your boss."
"He is not interested, please take us off your list."
"I have to hear that from him, not you."
"We are not interested, please take us off your list."  *click*

Legitimate businessfolk will be more than happy to leave a number, leave a message, send an email, etc., and are casual and friendly.  
Illegitimate businessfolk talk fast, leave no messages to pass on, are "on a line that can't be called back," etc., and get snippy and confrontational very quickly.  Also, if your boss actually -is- interested in talking to them, the second you put these people on hold, they hang up.  Legitimate businessfolk will wait.

Some guy called from 916-724-2643 and said " Is Mr. ____ in?"
I asked "What is this in regards to?"
He said "I am returning his call"
I said "about?"
He said " About the AGC"
I then asked "What is that?"
He got a little pissy and asked "IS MR. _____ IN?"
that is when I said "Mr.____ hasnt been with the company in a few years"
what a jerk ......  lol   he said " umm... ook  *click*"  hahahaha!
I hope the jerk reads this .... so many scum tele scammers out there...

More Ipa People work here:

Sales Staff:
Deb Lake
John Morris
Harvey McGehee
Teresa Samudio
Bret Tubergen
+ more add some names

And Many Telemarketers that actually got fired from IPA for lying.

HCMM BBB = lies

HCMM or Huntington Copper is a scam, it is part of IPA; The stink of John Morris in undeniable. They charge $279 per hour for legit consultants to fill out worthless worksheets. Even if you see a real problem you cannot address it until you have drained all the blood you can.

Do research on HCMM you find the truth.  

Do research on huntington cooper and you find nothing

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Do research on HCMM you find the truth.  

Do research on hunington cooper and you find nothing

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you are right about the BBB Oscar:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/25761920/detail.html

They were exposed by 20/20 the other night!

I know what they do. They are similar to the IPA company. As a matter of fact a lot of their employees are directly from IPA.

Attorney General Lawsuit:
http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/pressroom/2009_04/20090422.html

Two Multi-Million Dollar RICO Lawsuits:
http://newsblaze.com/story/2007031513400200002.ew/topstory.html

50 PAGES Full Of Complaints:
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20000601/19115.html

Sexual Harassment Lawsuit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8-zbmZTTM0

Beware this company! Their telemarketers are pushing their services.

You're so full of it 'billymo'!! You work for them!  HCMM is just another IPA clone!

It is a FAKE PAID FOR rating!!! That's how you get it! 20/20 did a report on it last night!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koIlecdtjcM

Well the BBB was just investigated by 20/20 and found to be a pay for play scam. Anyone can get an A rating from the BBB...as long as they PAY for the privilege. The BBB even rated a neo-nazi skinhead group with an A rating.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/tv/2010/11/12/cincinnati-bbb-on-2020-tonight/

got a call from a Larae Jones from the office of Gail Jurpgeweit. Wanted to talk to the owner:

Larae: Hello may I speak with _________
me: I'm sorry he's not available.
Larae: Is he in the office?
me: Yes? Why... what is this regarding?
Larae: my name is Larae... spells it: L A R A E, I'm calling from the office of Gail Kurpgeweit. I need to speak with the owner.
me: I'm sorry, he is not availabe, please tell me what this is regarding.
Larae: He'll know.
me: I need to leave a message for him, please tell me what this is regarding.
Larae: He'll know.
me: I'm sorry but I NEED to know what this is regarding before I give him this message.
Larae: He'll know. Just tell him Larae called for Gail Kurpgeweit.
me: Ok... (as I throw the note in the garbage)
Larae: Thank you.. click.

I spoke with the owners. He and his wife have never heard of this person before. I feel like it's a scam. the number was blocked but when I asked her for a phone number she said 916.. oops, sorry I mean 530-626-3356.

How do you fake an AAA+ rating with the BBB? Well that's EASY! All you have to do is run your company into the ground. Get multiple rico lawsuits against you. Multiple attorney general lawsuits against you. Hundreds of telemarketing complaints against you. Tons of bad press.

And then, here is the beauty of it, you BUY a respectable firm with an AAA+ BBB rating from another owner and repeat the process all over again and run it into the ground as well! Wait a minute that sounds real familiar don't it?

SO YES! YOU CAN FAKE IT!

Rob Popkey and Dave Pineda of IPA own HCMM now

http://pennystocknewsletter.info/investing/hu ... anges-ownership

Do you thing that might be why somebody might leave. I know of IPA and they are sleezy! I checked HCMM and it says they have a "AAA+ rating with the Better Bus. Bureau". I'm not very familiar with how that works. Can you fake that or is that real?

My understanding is they help companies manage their businesses better. A buddy of mine used them and they put over $100M on his bottom line thru adjusting his tax structure. He raves about them. That's all I know.

I read through all the comments pertaining to both these companies, IPA and HCMM.  I was fortunate to have the opportunity to work for both these Consulting Firms.  No one is perfect and alot of businesses have been helped.  The key here is to learn, listen and apply everything that pertains to your personality and business.  Consistency builds confidence; confidence in your employees and clients.  Nothing works if you don't apply it.  The Presidents of our Country aren't perfect but they did good; all of them in some specific area that made great change.  Keep an open mind.  I no longer work for either Consulting Firm but do reccommend them if you need change and results in your business.

Deb Lake is involved with this company she can not be trusted.  She is a snake. Huntington Copper Moody Maguire is the name they use also.  She just about caused my company to go broke!!!!  Don't let DEB LAKE NEAR your Business!!!!!!!

HCMM IPA

IPA actually helped my company.  Deb works for this HCMM, which could be IPA.  DON't TRUST any company she work with!!!!


DEB LAKE = SCAM

Amanda, it looks like that is the HCMM Regional Vice President. The call you describe is typical of HCMM/IPA.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/theresebsamudio

If you want the full scoop on this company Google HCMM Consulting Scam and pay attention to their connection to IPA.

It's funny how I read through here and see generic testimonials from anonymous people about how wonderful HCMM is. It's nostalgic. Like when I used to read those same type of testimonials on the IPA websites.

It looks like this is a company called HCMM. Buyer beware! Do some reasearch first like I did! look here:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-916-724-2643
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/ipa-hcmm-scam-c345690.html
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20000601/19115.html

Whoa whoa whoa! 916-724-2643 is comming up as Huntington Copper Moody Maquire or HCMM? Ha! Now that's a good one! When you hear HCMM think IPA! One of the head honchos from IPA is running HCMM. Same scam different name? Well here is the dirt on IPA and their people, you decide!

Attorney General Lawsuit:
http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/pressroom/2009_04/20090422.html

Two Multi-Million Dollar RICO Lawsuits:
http://newsblaze.com/story/2007031513400200002.ew/topstory.html

50 PAGES Full Of Complaints:
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20000601/19115.html

Sexual Harassment Lawsuit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8-zbmZTTM0

Say it with me now...RUN FOREST RUN!!!

Glad I met with them!  I received two calls from this office.  The person I spoke with was very professional and gave me information on their company so I researched them.  I decided to meet with their representative and it changed my life!  I now have a new member of my team of professionals to help me survive and thrive in this difficult economy.  I am excited about business again.