800-669-8064
ButterFinger
ButterFinger
2011-06-06 20:58:14
Unknown
Hello all,
No phone call, but they are in Ventura, Ca sometime this month. The brochure has the usual lingo and mentioned the $1150 check too. These people need to go AWAY!!
Wayne
Wayne
2011-05-16 22:32:27
Unknown
JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THE COMPANY FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY LAST MONTH
Hope Andretti
Hope Andretti
2010-08-31 00:28:00
Unknown
This appeared in the Aug. 15, 2010 Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Don't let down your guard because of impressive show: The Watchdog gets the boot

Posted Saturday, Aug. 14, 2010

By Dave Lieber

watchdog@star-telegram.com

Ours was a love that didn't go beyond a day. Planet Antares, a California company, mailed an invitation to my home urging me to attend a "Home-Based Business and Franchise Conference" at a Fort Worth hotel.

I signed up by phone, even though I had no idea about the nature of the business involved. Received a ticket with my name on it, a conference badge with my name, and a business card with the word "Owner" next to my name and the company's logo.

A day before the conference, Planet Antares sent flowers to my home ("Please accept this flower bouquet as my personal welcome"). Yes, indeed, I did feel welcome.

The next day, in a conference room with 45 others at the Sheraton Fort Worth, I listened to a two-hour presentation. A half-hour into the presentation, I learned that the business opportunity involved buying a vending machine franchise and placing the machines -- "Office Deli Refreshment Centers" -- in office buildings.

When the presenter unveiled the gleaming silver machine, I was impressed enough to take out my camera and snap a photo.

The man assigned as my "financial consultant" rushed over and asked me who I was. When I told him I write for the Star-Telegram and had been invited, he said, "Get your things."

He walked me out the hotel front door and told the valet parking attendant that I was not allowed back in. If he saw me again, he said he would call the police.

Yes, our love was over before it began, especially after a lawyer sent me an e-mail with the subject line: "URGENT -- PUBLICATION WARNING!"

For a long time, I've wanted to attend a hotel seminar where you get offered the business chance of a lifetime, but I wanted one where I was invited. Even though my stay ended prematurely, I learned about how we can research these businesses before investing.

The presenter said that Planet Antares is the "largest, most successful provider of business opportunities" in the U.S., Canada and Latin America, with more than a half-billion dollars in sales.

The company's offer, she said, is "the best business opportunity in the world today." She smiled and added, "It really is all about family."

During her talk, the presenter gave fine-print clues that could point potential customers on where to research before making a final decision.

At one point, for example, she read a disclosure statement that the company had once paid a "$1 million regulatory penalty payment."

"We were quite upset about that," she said.

Another clue: When giving us names and phone numbers to call for referrals from satisfied customers, she said the clients were getting paid to be helpful in the phone calls. She also disclosed that no one related to the company is allowed to make projections about potential income or earnings.

Before making any investment, a first step is to carefully read the contract and share its contents with trusted advisers.

There was more information about the company in its contract. One lengthy paragraph disclosed that the company agreed to pay a total of $300,000 to former customers to settle lawsuits. But many large companies have had lawsuit settlements, so it may be hard to evaluate the significance of that information.

An Internet search may shed more light. The first site I checked, the Better Business Bureau, gives Planet Antares a B- rating with 40 complaints in the past three years. A summary said some distributors complained that the company misled them on the profit potential and the ability to place machines in profitable locations.

Later, on the Federal Trade Commission website -- ftc.gov -- I found more information about the penalty the presenter mentioned. A 1996 news release disclosed that the $1 million penalty paid by the company, then known as Antares Corp., was used by the government to return money to some customers who had complained about the company's tactics.

The 14-year-old fine, the FTC stated, was for "charges of misrepresenting, among other things, the potential earnings of prospective distributors and using shills as references." The federal agency describes shills as phony references, where customers may not realize that they are paid to talk about the financial success.

I remembered that the presenter did disclose to the audience that the references were paid.

Planet Antares, based in Culver City, Calif., is owned by Dana Bashor. I wanted to talk with company representatives, so last week I requested an interview with Bashor. At first, I was told by a company staffer that the only person able to talk with me was a company sales manager, who would not be available until the next week.

Later, Doug Mirell, an attorney representing the company, contacted me to say that no one would talk with me because, he said, I was a trespasser and that the company would have no other comment.

While doing a general search for Planet Antares, I found something unexpected. The company has created many business-related blogs that offer positive advice. Of course, this also allows the company to dominate its search engine rankings with its own content.

Its blogs contain headlines such as "Improving Work Ethics in the Workplace" and "Planet Antares Scam Alert on Vending Machine Frauds."

For example, one post states, "Planet Antares is providing tips and alerts to vending operators for safe vending. Follow them and stay away from scams for profitable vending business."

Amid the company's own postings, I found only two active consumer review websites with feedback about the company.

TrustLink Community, affiliated with the BBB, displays these recent comments from unnamed writers: "We are $28K in debt for two machines that are making nothing like the amount of money we were assured they would make," one writes.

"My poor friend bought five of these machines, Only one of them after six months has been placed," another writes.

A third: "After getting fed up, I wanted to return the machines, and they did not allow me to do so."

On the same post, there were three other comments promoting the company's position. Each was written in a similar style and ended with an upbeat statement:

"We just have to go out and find them and work to open them and enjoy every minute of it."

"This business is the centerpiece around which our family has grown closer together."

"For me, this is my mom's retirement."

On another consumer website -- 800notes, Directory of Unknown Callers -- posters track the company's business conferences at various cities across the U.S. -- from Pennsylvania to Florida, California, Alabama, Indiana, Hawaii and Texas.

In Fort Worth, as I was escorted out of the hotel that day, a Planet Antares employee who wouldn't give his name explained: "We have to be careful. We've got competition. They're out there for our information."

As we should be, too, before making any investments.

The Watchdog column appears Fridays and Sundays.

Dave Lieber, 817-685-3830

Twitter @DaveLieber
Hope Andretti
Hope Andretti
2010-08-31 00:27:12
Unknown
This appeared in the Aug. 15, 2010 Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Don't let down your guard because of impressive show: The Watchdog gets the boot

Posted Saturday, Aug. 14, 2010

By Dave Lieber

watchdog@star-telegram.com

lieber Ours was a love that didn't go beyond a day. Planet Antares, a California company, mailed an invitation to my home urging me to attend a "Home-Based Business and Franchise Conference" at a Fort Worth hotel.

I signed up by phone, even though I had no idea about the nature of the business involved. Received a ticket with my name on it, a conference badge with my name, and a business card with the word "Owner" next to my name and the company's logo.

A day before the conference, Planet Antares sent flowers to my home ("Please accept this flower bouquet as my personal welcome"). Yes, indeed, I did feel welcome.

The next day, in a conference room with 45 others at the Sheraton Fort Worth, I listened to a two-hour presentation. A half-hour into the presentation, I learned that the business opportunity involved buying a vending machine franchise and placing the machines -- "Office Deli Refreshment Centers" -- in office buildings.

When the presenter unveiled the gleaming silver machine, I was impressed enough to take out my camera and snap a photo.

The man assigned as my "financial consultant" rushed over and asked me who I was. When I told him I write for the Star-Telegram and had been invited, he said, "Get your things."

He walked me out the hotel front door and told the valet parking attendant that I was not allowed back in. If he saw me again, he said he would call the police.

Yes, our love was over before it began, especially after a lawyer sent me an e-mail with the subject line: "URGENT -- PUBLICATION WARNING!"

For a long time, I've wanted to attend a hotel seminar where you get offered the business chance of a lifetime, but I wanted one where I was invited. Even though my stay ended prematurely, I learned about how we can research these businesses before investing.

The presenter said that Planet Antares is the "largest, most successful provider of business opportunities" in the U.S., Canada and Latin America, with more than a half-billion dollars in sales.

The company's offer, she said, is "the best business opportunity in the world today." She smiled and added, "It really is all about family."

During her talk, the presenter gave fine-print clues that could point potential customers on where to research before making a final decision.

At one point, for example, she read a disclosure statement that the company had once paid a "$1 million regulatory penalty payment."

"We were quite upset about that," she said.

Another clue: When giving us names and phone numbers to call for referrals from satisfied customers, she said the clients were getting paid to be helpful in the phone calls. She also disclosed that no one related to the company is allowed to make projections about potential income or earnings.

Before making any investment, a first step is to carefully read the contract and share its contents with trusted advisers.

There was more information about the company in its contract. One lengthy paragraph disclosed that the company agreed to pay a total of $300,000 to former customers to settle lawsuits. But many large companies have had lawsuit settlements, so it may be hard to evaluate the significance of that information.

An Internet search may shed more light. The first site I checked, the Better Business Bureau, gives Planet Antares a B- rating with 40 complaints in the past three years. A summary said some distributors complained that the company misled them on the profit potential and the ability to place machines in profitable locations.

Later, on the Federal Trade Commission website -- ftc.gov -- I found more information about the penalty the presenter mentioned. A 1996 news release disclosed that the $1 million penalty paid by the company, then known as Antares Corp., was used by the government to return money to some customers who had complained about the company's tactics.

The 14-year-old fine, the FTC stated, was for "charges of misrepresenting, among other things, the potential earnings of prospective distributors and using shills as references." The federal agency describes shills as phony references, where customers may not realize that they are paid to talk about the financial success.

I remembered that the presenter did disclose to the audience that the references were paid.

Planet Antares, based in Culver City, Calif., is owned by Dana Bashor. I wanted to talk with company representatives, so last week I requested an interview with Bashor. At first, I was told by a company staffer that the only person able to talk with me was a company sales manager, who would not be available until the next week.

Later, Doug Mirell, an attorney representing the company, contacted me to say that no one would talk with me because, he said, I was a trespasser and that the company would have no other comment.

While doing a general search for Planet Antares, I found something unexpected. The company has created many business-related blogs that offer positive advice. Of course, this also allows the company to dominate its search engine rankings with its own content.

Its blogs contain headlines such as "Improving Work Ethics in the Workplace" and "Planet Antares Scam Alert on Vending Machine Frauds."

For example, one post states, "Planet Antares is providing tips and alerts to vending operators for safe vending. Follow them and stay away from scams for profitable vending business."

Amid the company's own postings, I found only two active consumer review websites with feedback about the company.

TrustLink Community, affiliated with the BBB, displays these recent comments from unnamed writers: "We are $28K in debt for two machines that are making nothing like the amount of money we were assured they would make," one writes.

"My poor friend bought five of these machines, Only one of them after six months has been placed," another writes.

A third: "After getting fed up, I wanted to return the machines, and they did not allow me to do so."

On the same post, there were three other comments promoting the company's position. Each was written in a similar style and ended with an upbeat statement:

"We just have to go out and find them and work to open them and enjoy every minute of it."

"This business is the centerpiece around which our family has grown closer together."

"For me, this is my mom's retirement."

On another consumer website -- 800notes, Directory of Unknown Callers -- posters track the company's business conferences at various cities across the U.S. -- from Pennsylvania to Florida, California, Alabama, Indiana, Hawaii and Texas.

In Fort Worth, as I was escorted out of the hotel that day, a Planet Antares employee who wouldn't give his name explained: "We have to be careful. We've got competition. They're out there for our information."

As we should be, too, before making any investments.

The Watchdog column appears Fridays and Sundays.

Dave Lieber, 817-685-3830

Twitter @DaveLieber
peevee
peevee
2010-08-20 21:39:19
Unknown
In Canada they are doing the same..but with this number.1-800-616-1731 Anyone actually knows of someone making money off these vending machines?
Wayne
Wayne
2010-07-15 02:21:59
Unknown
We placed all of the machines now.  Every one of the machines had problems and needed repairs.  We replaced three refrigeration units on one machine and it still isn't fixed.  I feel the units are overpriced and certainly not of high quality.  If your are still interested in the machines let me know.
LC
LC
2010-06-21 13:15:10
Unknown
I also got an invitation to a free manufacturer's demonstration on June 24th at the Woodcliff Lake Hilton from B Barrett.  Has anyone been successful with this vending machine company?  Is it a scam?
Agora500
Agora500
2010-06-16 20:23:58
Unknown
I just received an invitation to a free dinner at the Hilton Woodcliff Lake in NJ for June 24, 25 or 26th. The phone # I am to call is 800-616-1731 and the invitation is signed by B. Barrett. This sounds similar to your posts with the $1,150 rebate. I am trying to determine if this is one and the same as your posts. Has anyone had an experience here?
Agora500
Agora500
2010-06-16 20:17:43
Unknown
I jus received a free admission to the Hilton Woodcliff Lake in NJ but my phone # to call is 800-616-1731 with the invitation sighned by B. Barrett. Has anyone received or gone to one of  his functions, as it sounds similar to what you are all talking about?
Mike
Mike
2010-05-23 17:35:49
Unknown
What did you do with the machines that you bought?  Do you have them placed now or are they setting in your garage?  Let me know, might be interested.
MikeRothweiler@yahoo.com
jeanne
jeanne
2010-05-12 19:48:07
Unknown
They'll be in St. Louis May 20-22.  Free MP3, free lunch, overpriced vending machines (as the Forbes site points out   http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/0614/6312322a.html   )  If I wanted information about the business, I might go determined NOT to buy my machines from Wealth Builders.  Asking pointed questions, as one commenter here suggested, could be very fun.  Be ready to be kicked out or treated like a defendent grilled by the prosecution, however.
snowball
snowball
2010-05-09 04:22:34
Unknown
Have you attended the seminar?  What was the result?
MARKY 2
MARKY 2
2010-04-25 21:18:20
Unknown
DID U GET THE MP3 AND STUFF JUST CHECKING IN THANKS A LOT HOW ABOUT THE REBATE CHECK SO HOW U GONNA USE IT IN ANY KIND OF BUSINESS
Marky
Marky
2010-04-25 21:16:49
Unknown
just got an invitation too can you check the one in i got my guest name the address is
walnut creek marriot 2355 n main street walnut creek ca 94596 i just wanna know if it is the same as the automatic merchandising services i got an gift card and business card in the inserted letter i wanna receiv the free mp3 and stuff to try i guess its nto a scam can anyone check it too there adress is same as weath builders same as culver city ca 90230 is the same as above or not the national director is b barrett i think he is a nice guy buy can anyone check who go though i got an offer thanks resmond me back here thanks their meeting is 4 29 10 to 5 1 10 so just checking so how about the rebate check are they gonna send it wow thanks a lot it helps me is said here 1 150 dollars just checking so what kind of business is this gonna be help thanks but is this this true or not checking please thanks
Patti
Patti
2010-04-13 22:39:54
Unknown
Just got and invitation in the mail today for me and a guest. This one is in Sacramento CA the end of April.  I'm sure it is nothing that I am interested in but I was thinking of going with my son to get the 2 free MP3 players.....he just had his stolen and I don't have one. I'm not easily sucked into anything and I certainly don't have thousands of $ to invest in vending machines, which I don't support....EVER! I sure like the idea of a free MP3 player just for attending. Anyone else get an offer for free merchandise like this? I'm only wondering if they will deliver....hmmmmmm
Matt T.
Matt T.
2010-04-09 01:29:13
Unknown
Next time I receive this same mail/call, I will reserve a spot and bring a FBI friend. Hopefully they get these suckers!
L.T.
L.T.
2010-04-09 01:20:41
Unknown
I got this from the mail about a month ago and set it aside. I was going through the junk on my desk and saw it again. I felt bad at first for missing the "free demonstration seminar". Just like the other posters here, I searched for the website to get more information and, lo and behold, it's a scam afterall! My letter was signed by B.Barrett (National Director). On the bottom left corner of the letter was a note "Wealth Builders is a service trademark of Planet Antares, Inc. 5700 Buckingham Parkway, Culver City, CA 90230" The 3 "successful" stories were creatively scripted, would make you want to go. Even the personalized business card was artistic, too good to be true!

Thanks so much for the posts and warnings! God bless us all!
Lamido
Lamido
2010-04-07 18:43:24
Unknown
I am just curious, if Amway is a pyramid scam why are they rated A+ by the Better Business Bureau? Why are Company like Barnes and Nobles or Best Buy doing business with them?
Richard Banks
Richard Banks
2010-04-04 02:36:01
Unknown
off all the 12 pages.....the morons here have just mentioned - "we received the package"..... yes you all received the package...thats why you are here.............BUT did any of you tried to find out what happens or happened at the seminar? any information on that???????? and how do their scam work? Did you get a good food?...did you get a free mp3 player as promised? I am sure they wont threaten you to spend the money, why not give the actual "in seminar" experience rather than stupidly framing similar msg again and again "I RECEIVED THE PACKAGE"......
MissV
MissV
2010-03-14 03:16:13
Unknown
They will be in Tupelo MS. Hilton Garden Inn on 19th 20th of March. I received mine in the mail under Wealth Builders. B. Barret National Director. Seems to be a business where they want you to put in their vending Machines. They are even so clever to send a business card with my name and address printed on it automatic merchandising services, That I really don't appreciate!!
Oh and they even say they will sent you a $1500.00 check! ha!lol! they got to do better than that to scam me.

Hate to pass on such a wonderful oppertunity"scam"
Mobih in CT
Mobih in CT
2010-03-05 00:27:04
Unknown
I received the invitation today from Automatic Merchandising Services. They are going to be in Hartford, CT on March 19th, 20th and 21st.  The business card and $1150 cash rebate are included in the letter. This one is signed by B. Barrett National Director. 1-800-616-1731.  I can also bring a guest and willl get a free MP3 Player with headphones.  

I'm going to pass on this "fantastic" opportunity to "gain a lifetime of wealth and happiness."
D from PA
D from PA
2010-02-22 17:43:11
Unknown
They are coming to Allentown on 2/26/10 to 2/27/10  Four Points by Sheraton Hotel- Alllentown Airport,  3400 Airport Road, Allentown, PA 18109.  

So Glad I did a search.  Thank you!
KAR in Alabama
KAR in Alabama
2010-02-17 05:39:24
Unknown
I didn't get a call but I did receive my invitation to the seminar to be held in Huntsville on 2/26 - 2/28/2010.

I was gonna go, just to see what it was, but glad I checked it out first.

The number to call for reservations is 800/616-1731, so if anyone wants to go, make sure to reserve your spot! ;p
Greybeard
Greybeard
2010-02-07 03:17:42
Unknown
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/0614/6312322a.html
everything u need to know about this piece of human sh*t.
Cecile in California
Cecile in California
2010-02-04 04:41:37
Unknown
I received their RSVP invitation in the mail yesterday.  They will be holding a seminar in Valencia CA. on Feb. 5, 6 & 7.  I also received the rebate check for $ 1,150 and also received flowers since I responded to the invitation.  Glad to hear that this is just a scam.  It's a good thing I found out early and not wasted my time.
Dave
Dave
2010-02-02 21:49:11
Unknown
I just received their RSVP invitation in the mail yesterday. They will be holding a seminar in Reno, Nevada on Friday and Saturday, February 5th and 6th. I knew that it was too good to be true. "Keep your full-time job. You don't even have to bring your checkbook with you. We will give you a rebate check for $1150." It seems as if this scam has been going on for quite some time now. The only place I see any vending machines, where I live, is right outside the big supermarkets or Wal-Mart. I am sure that there are vending machines in the hotels. Where are we supposed to set up our vending machine business? There is no place left to install any vending machines. All of the good spots for vending machines are already occupied!
Morgan Hill Resident
Morgan Hill Resident
2010-01-22 07:13:02
Unknown
Hello,
I received an invitation too and am doing some research.
It appears to be involved with Vending Machine.  I haven't attended, but will check with a relative who has something similar as a side business.
Always do your research.  Don't sign up to anything that says this is an offer for today only.  If it's a valid business then, you can find others who are doing it too through research.
If you decide to attend the lunch and talk. Just listen and don't commit until you have done the checking.  Also check the BBB.

Best Regards
Bobbie
Bobbie
2010-01-20 21:35:21
Unknown
Hello,

I got mine for Peoria,Il for the Holiday Inn-City Centre.
I have gotten these invations before. It comes in the mail.
I never went to one,but my husband used to do this vending
machine work before.The guy that he did it for was handicapped
and he had a government contract with the state of
Illinois. He got his contract because he was handicapped.

It will make a good business if you can buy a francise that
is not a scam.

Bobbie
dinz
dinz
2010-01-20 18:42:12
Unknown
I got an invitation to attend a FREE business seminar by wealth builders (Jan 19 2010 at Hilton Hawaii), before going  I need to call 8006998064 for RSVP. What's the rbate of $ 1150 ? I dont' understand so i decided not to go. Can any body tell me what happens during this seminar if you had gone to any of these?
Barje
Barje
2010-01-12 22:40:04
Unknown
Thank you all for your posts.  They are coming to Richmond, Va and I was curious about their scam.  I am not going at all and hope others check the info about this operation.
1-817-488-6720 1-868-300-5000 1-904-371-2907
Call Type:
Comment:
Your name:
Validation:
© WHOSCALL.IN 2011-2024 - Privacy