CRG (Credit Recovery Group), PnL Agency LLC, All American Finace (3 different names for FTC and lawyers cannot locate them for service of peocess)

2222 S. Dobson Rd. Building 5 ste 503
Mesa AZ 85210

Patrick Nahass Jr. (Owner) - Uses the alias Patrick Ford

Beau Kawalski (Manager)- Uses the alias Beau Jones

Jeremy Beavers (Dialer & Closer)-Uses the aliad Jeremy Boxtedder when you call & John Bordsen when he calls you to allegedly serve you summons

Carrie Black-Cervoski (Dialer & Closer)-Uses the alias Carrie Wilson when you call & Nikki Cruz when she calls you to allegedly serve you summons

Ashley Black-Cervoski (Dialer & Closer)-Uses the aliad Ashley  Dover when you call & unable to locate her alias when she calls you to allegedly serve you summons

Brian Phillips- uses alias dustin marka when calling you

I am an attorney pursuing CRG (Credit Recovery Group), learned very quicky thay the name I had to use for this lawsuit was PnL Agency L.L.C. the reason the owner uses 3 names and does not provide physical address is to prevent anyone from locating him for lawsuits or F.T.C. shutting them down. For everyone's info these are valid debts, the ammounts are very wrong, we learned that the owner applies any figure that he feels necessary to make him more money generally the figure we notice applied to many of these purchased debt os approximately $750.00-$850.00 keep in mind this is completely illegal. So if they contact you please contact:

Arizona's States Attorny General

WWW.FTC.GOV

WWW.BBB.COM

and if you want to pursue them legally contact any attorney who deals with fraud companies or debt collection companiea. This is a very easy case as they violate about every FDCPA (Fair Debt Collection Practices Act) that exists so if the attorney you hire knows what he or she is doing its a guaranteed win.

Again, Googling CRG and then posting all of our contact information as somehow involved in this is not the smartest move you have ever made.  We are not in any way associated with this 877 number or scam that someone is perpetrating.   Feel free to email me any contact information at rg@crgrecovery.com if you think someone from my company is contacting you with this type of scam.  Thank you.

We have nothing to do with the 877 number or apparent scam that is mentioned in this thread.  There is no Brian at our company and never has been.

It may or may not be. Did you get a notification from the bank that your account was overdrafted? Banks generally give you an opportunity to pay overdrafts and bounced checks before they take legal action. My advice is that you contact the bank they claim to call for and verify it with them.

I just got a call from a guy who said I was being sued, gave me 877-250-5540 to call. I called and they said I was being sued for a overdraft from some bank. I read all the posts, still don't know if this is real.

Why does the questions you asked not get answered, it that post a fake?

I had the same thing happen to me with this company and I never received any emails. wow

Per Patrick Fort, owner of CRG in Arizona, their website is under construction, they r not part of the BBB, wouldn't give me a tax I'd or business license #. He said he would email me the original contract I signed but until then his office was escalating my case and his office would not have any contact with me until I called to setup payment arrangements, even though he said they were escalating my file from his office. I will wait patiently foe that email with the original contract he states he has requested. I also gave my attorney the recorded phone calls and information on this issue. The state of Arizona does not show this has a registered company to do business as a mediator or collection company.

Thank You I have retained an attorney. Requested CRG supply me with the original signed, by me, contract from the alleged company they saw I owe. I have also requested CRG's federal tax ID, business license and the details of this in writing along with the name of the attorney they say they are working on this case against me. I spoke CLEAR English not sure why you don understand. In the state of Texas a collection agency MUST provide you with this information in writing before they can take any legal actions. IF they cannot provide ALL then you are NOT obligated to pay them a dime! All they can do is harass you.

I was replying to "This Is BS" who indicated that he was being sued by the rent a center, that he did owe the money, and that he did retain the items in question and did indeed know which items they were since he said they were out of date.

So unless you are the same individual posting under 2 different names, my posting stands.

What does "They DO NOT they original contract therefore cannot sue you for anything." mean?  Can you translate that into the American Language for me?  I have no idea what Texas law is, maybe they cannot garnish your wages.  It sounds like you had a conversation with someone who had no knowledge of what he was collecting on or why.  While this may be the case, I find it unusual for a debt collector of any kind to give you the information that this person so readily offered up since there would be no incentive for you to pay at all except to keep your credit record clean, and if the debt was written off it is already on your credit record.  What you are posting makes no sense.  My advice to you also would be to go out and talk to an attorney.

I spoke to Bryan @ CRG 877-250-5540 last night. They DO NOT they original contract therefore cannot sue you for anything. The only company that could is the original company that you signed the contract with. I also called the company they said I owed the debit to, that company knew nothing of this CRG company and stated they had written the debit off years ago and it was put on my credit report. And Bryan also stated he had no idea what the items where or the amount I owed this company, all he had was the delinquent amount at the time of charge off and the amount he was asking to settle his demand. He was also inconsistent with his statements to me. I asked what the CRG stood for, he said its the name of the company, he guessed it was the owners initials. He had no idea the attorney's name he stated his company represented. I do live in Texas and know they cannot garnish my wages for anything except taxes and child support, I am investigating further but I believe at this point this is just a collection agency. He stated they are a mediation company and could settle with a lessor amount. But that is not what the guy, Steve, I spoke with first told me, he stated I was being sued period. Really confused at this point.

I many states, and I have no idea what California law is, it is a criminal offense to get items from a rental center and not return them along with not paying for them.  The reason is, the rental center retains title to the item until the contract is satisfied.  If they are simply suing you in civil court, I would be thankful, but if they get a judgement depending on state law they can come and sell your personal items, garnish any wages, and you may not have anything now, but a judgement hangs around for a while and if you have anything in the future they might be entitled to sell it to satisfy the judgement.

An "answer" is a legal document you file to answer the charges leveled against you.  It must be drawn up in a certain manner depending on court rules.  

My best advice since you have no clue as to what is going on is to get a lawyer.  This of course will cost you money, probably more than what you owe to the rental place.  

You should have simply taken the item back and terminated the contract.

Yes it is

If you go to the "whois" information for crgrecovery.com, you will find that the website itself was created on 10-30-2010 and was updated on 10-30-2013.  The registration information leads to a registrant named Geer in Owasso, Oklahoma.  If you trace the name of company CRG Recovery back through the Oklahoma Secretary of State corporate inquiry, you will find at:
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInquiryFind.aspx?Name=crg
there is a company registered by that name in the State of Oklahoma, to the person and city named in the crgrecovery.com "whois" record.
It turns out that CRG Recovery in Oklahoma is a DBA for Geer Ventures LLC, which has a formation date of January 1, 2013, well after the date given for the start of the website "crgrecovery.com".  At the very least, this suggests that the current owners of the crgrecovery.com are not the same as the owners in 2010-2012, when the domain name was apparently active.
You can see the listing for Geer Ventures LLC at:
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInformation.aspx?id=3512386480

A simple Internet search engine (e.g., Google) found, without the quotations, "Geer Ventures Oklahoma," which is the website http://geerventures.com/
If you click on the link on that page that is labeled "About Us," it says:
"Geer Ventures LLC is an Oklahoma Limited Liability Company, who does business throughout the United States of America in multiple industries.
Geer Ventures LLC was established January 1, 2013.   Multiple DBA's were also filed, including CRG Recovery and Geer Security."

If you check the "whois" information for "geerventures.com," you will observe that it is registered to the same person and the same address as "crgrecovery.com," but has only been registered since 12-01-2013.

Hope some of this might help someone, now or in the future.

Thank you

Here ya go unhappy.. here's the laws and all the articles about fakeroo extortion scams..

http://800notes.com/arts/Jb8EW-eDhQA/harassin ... ou-need-to-know
See Residents post here also:
http://800notes.com/forum/ta-34af6a034ba34b6/unending-collection-calls
Templates of Letters:
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-319-242-7350

http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpajump.shtm
http://www.consumerfinance.gov/askcfpb/search ...
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/pdf-0096-fair-credit-reporting-act.pdf
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0149-debt-collection

And see:
http://800notes.com/forum/ta-944ec1426a8bcbb/ ... service-attacks
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http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/ ... r-phones/ndF4c/
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http://www.net-security.org/article.php?id=1828
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http://800notes.com/forum/ta-86217073a9c8dad/ ... 077595690349410
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http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0258-fake-debt-collectors
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http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/pubs/pressreleases/extortion_scam.htm
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http://www.fdcpa.me/fake-process-server-injunction/
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http://800notes.com/forum/ta-9413b3202bc8b6c/ ... net%27s-tactics
http://dfi.wa.gov/consumers/alerts/cashnet-payday.htm
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http://www.cashnetusa.com/consumer-notices
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http://800notes.com/forum/ta-4f7d326029dcf9d/ ... lectors-finally
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To report Extortion Scam Operations, file reports with the FBI, your state attorney general and Department Of Justice,CFB,FTC & FCC..

http://www.nw3c.org/
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
http://www.fbi.gov/
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1
https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/form1088.action
http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/

Lair? Who lied? And really, u just proved my point!

Knock your self out. We couldn't care less. If you want to play with grown-ups, at least try to have an IQ that's equal to your second step-fathers. You want to try to play with me?  Think twice. I don't play games.
Gunnar

Neither do shills, trolls & liars!!!!!

Liars don't seem to have a good time on this site.

What's a "grown UPS"?  Best not be dissin' "Big Brown."

Really?? I call bullies!!!! This is stupid, grown UPS acting like this! I'm out, enjoy acting like a Jr high kid!

Because you're stupid?

Because you're a shill?

Both?

Why is everyone being so mean.

Well then, don't try. When a fraud shows up here, it's like a Poodle being dropped in to dog fighting ring. There will be nothing left but quivering flesh. It can get worse.
Be real or be gone. No kidding.
Live Well. Or Not.
Gunnar

You make no sense

You cannot be served via phone, fax, email or text in ANY state.

Last question - was the FORM mailed or delivered by a different means?  The only "legal" form of notification is be mail or designated courier.  

Again - if in doubt, contact an attorney.

If it were a Legal Court Summons, you would not be given the option to pay only go to court

1. You could contact the company you originally owed and see what they did with it.
2. What is the statute of limitations in your state?
3. There are ways to find social security numbers, etc. rather easily.
4. If really in doubt, there are pro bono attorneys to ask for assistance.

YOU CAN NOT go to jail for a civil debt.
Good luck!

FIN