Correction: they are in Winston-Salem NC.

This is the cellphone number of company owner Randall J Keirl: 336-408-9851

This is the Facebook page of co owner (Randall's Wife) Gudran Klan:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001235557627

I heard people were looking for the FAX number of this company: 302-387-4184

Stop wasting time trying to take legal actions against "saul" or "george". Those are just fake names used by owner Randall. Also they are not located in VA. Only their post office box is there. They are located in Pilot Mountain, NC.

Wouldn't you know, this is the same man we deal with!  He's a real nut job.  He must not be paid.

Saul Rosenberg at ACDR Corp has called us names, used fake ones, harassed the entire office, tied up our phone lines and must be doing a terrible time at his job.  If he's this persistent, he must not be getting through to his so-called "clients."  He should be sued for harassment and fraudulence among a laundry list of other things.  

SAUL ROSENBERG at ACDR Corp

SAUL ROSENBERG at ACDR Corp

SAUL ROSENBERG at ACDR Corp

If I write his name and company enough, maybe this will be the first thing that pops up on Google and people won't feel threatened by him!  He's hiding behind a phone (or multiple ones, apparently) and using belittling tactics to try to get money he thinks is owed to him due to fraud.  WHAT. A. ROYAL. JERK.  

SAUL ROSENBERG at ACDR Corp

SAUL ROSENBERG at ACDR Corp

SAUL ROSENBERG at ACDR Corp

(Three more can't hurt...)

American Credit & Debt Recovery Corp is a SCAM!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!

I bet these people are just too ugly to get a real job.  

That's beside the point, but it makes me feel better when they call 40-50 times a day.  By me not giving in to this fraudulence, they do not get paid.  HA HA.  A man from the office calls all the time and sends a fax EVERY DAY and we're not even the person he's looking for!  It's ridiculous!

ACDR CORP IS A SCAM.  THEY COMMIT FRAUD.  DO NOT GIVE IN!!  THEY SHOULD BE SUED FOR HARASSMENT, FRAUDULENCE AND ASSAULT.

I have to laugh - I mean, really - a manipulated voice recording does not a contract make!  Nor will it stand up in a court of law.  Glad you have an attorney handling this.

Our company is receiving calls from Agent Saul Rosenberg who claims we owe a bill.  The only so called proof that we owe this bill is a fake telephone recording that is barely audible. We have turned him over to our attorney for his harassing, speed dialing phone calls.  He has belittled everyone who has answered the phone.  We only have 4 lines and he manages to tie them all up.  He even told one of our employees "liar, liar pants on fire"!!! He's so professional.  Our attorney plans on suing him personally, not his company.

The number he has been using is 302-387-4187.

American Credit Debt Recovery (ACDR) has a Post Office box in Cana, VA. However, we have not been able to locate a physical address for the firm. It appears the firm is not located in Cana. Randall Keirl is listed as the Administrative contact on ACDR's web site domain registry. Mr. Keirl is also listed as the President of Infocom USA, Inc. in Pilot Mt., NC. Infocom USA, Inc. has an "F" rating with the BBB in Winston-Salem, NC. Here is a link to their BBB review: http://www.bbb.org/northwestern-north-carolin ... ain-nc-4000428/ Mr. Keirl is also listed as the President of UBS, Inc. of Winston-Salem, NC. UBS, Inc. has an "F" rating with the BBB in Winston-Salem, NC. The link to their review is http://www.bbb.org/northwestern-north-carolin ... em-nc-151607714 . According to information we are receiving from consumers, the firm appears to be a collection agency for UBS, Inc. of Winston-Salem, NC. UBS is sending out invoices to businesses for a listing in a business directory.

BBB records show a pattern of complaints received about this business. Please see the Additional Complaint Information section of this Business Review.

http://www.bbb.org/western-virginia/business- ... ana-va-90005692

ACDRC sent several faxes to my fax machine. Those faxes are for collection of an invoice that does not belong to me and I told Mr. Saul Rosenberg to stop sending me these faxes. He promised, but every day I receive the same fax wasting my paper and ink supllies.

Good Morning,
Same here!...its a big scam......same happened here. Since 2009!.....every 6 months the invoice will be  passed to another person @ ACDR......I feel these are the people who responded on the magazines and internet ads..."YOU WANT TO MAKE $3000 a week"....after done some research....the companies they claim to work for don't have physical addresses......my cure to stop the calls: I have my employees fax their paperwork back to their telephone! number - 20 times a day for a week........I promise you the calls will stop....till the next person gets your company name - you do the same. I have tried to have my friend @ the FBI look into it...if something can be done....seams to be difficult. Anyway......on the quiet days, we just make fun of these people......call them out to come to our office and try to get paid......ask them their full name and where they are located physically.....listen; its annoying....but don't let ruin your day AND DO NOT PAY!

Just a little info on this scam as of March 31, 2013:

Incorporated in Delaware
Mailings out of Virginia
Operates out of North Carolina
I think some of the callers are working out of India

Any legal issues with this company MUST be filed with the Registered Agent of ACDR, corp.  There info is as follows:

Spiegel & Utrera PA
9 East Loockerman St Suite 3A
Dover DE 19901
Ref # 09252430140
They are the registered contact until September 30th of 2013

Also, it may help to contact some of the owner?s family members to help solve your problem.  All of this information is available on the net with some research:

Owner,
Randall J Keirl born 1948
1544 Keaton Rd    or        3279 Chevremont Blvd
Westfield NC 27053            Westfield NC 27053

Son,
Christopher Keirl born 1974
3279 Chevremont Blvd
Westfield NC 27053

Wife,
Gudran Klan born in 1953

Mother of owner,
Candy Keirl
50669 West Esch Trail
Maricopa Arizona 85139-4757    located in Pinal County (other owner of this property is Kenda L Chesko

Other addresses:
603 East Main St, Pilot Mountain NC 27041 - looks like the office of their ?now out of businesses? Infocom & Transcontinental Debt.  I think they still use the address.

Phone numbers:
336-351-5711
336-414-0915

I believe Randall is opening up another company I Arizona.

Also, most info can be found be searching county auditor websites.  If you have a clue as to what county they may live in, go to the auditors website and do a property tax search on the last names.  Also, if anyone has access to speeding tickets, etc  - there is usually good info attached to those.

Hope this helps!!

Hey there...

I dug this up on the web... probably the source of all of this.

Randall J. Keirl - Pres.
603 E. Main St., Pilot Mountain, NC 27041

U.S.A.
Phone: 336-368-2119

Same sob story here, same unreal product, same faked recording, but I have an attorney, as well on the job.  I think with enough people bringing weight against the "company", that the operation will go under.

Expect when he calls you will get belittled, as that is what the poor guy is.  It's unfortunate that if he put the energy into something worthwhile, he really is persistent, and would probably be a force for good in the world.

I doubt his name is even George Hill, but I digress. The man has absolutely no way of damaging your company?s credit. I know this because he?s been trying to sucker us for years and our credit is spotless.

I do, however, happen to know a few facts about the man that calls on the phone to collect these "debts". After some research I found that his birth certificate is actually an apology letter from the condom factory. Further digging showed me that he must have been born on a highway because that?s where most accidents happen. And he sure as heck will never be the man his mother is.

In conclusion, the man will harass you over and over because he has never had a real job in his life or anything better to do. The best thing to do is to have some fun with him and don?t take him or his threats seriously.  If he were twice as smart, he?d still be stupid.

~Confusion to our enemies!!~

PS (If you?d like to contribute to bring this shell of a man down) ?Consumers who receive abusive collection calls from this or any collection company are advised to file a complaint with BBB, the FTC, and the VA State Attorney General?s office.?  ( http://www.bbb.org/western-virginia/business- ... ana-va-90005692 )

This Man is a nut,  We have hired an attorney and he refuses to deal and listen to him.  We have filed harassemt charges with the local ploice dept , who in return have tried to talk to him.  He states the oficer was not for real along with his badge #.  His has called and tied up 4 of our phone lines for hours.  We have repoted him to FTC and state Attorney Genrals office.  Seems he thinks no one can get to him. He has broken all legal rules for Collection if it was for real.  So we feel thats why he doesn't have to follow them for it's a complete scam.  Along with UBS, which I feel is a front.   George Hill has made sexual comments, along with telling employees that the company is failing and they need to find a new job.   He will not give a addres other then PO # which we traced back to a UPS location.  Told him if we owed him money to come to Our location and collect. Told me to come there,  I asked for adress and never got anywere.  Wants Credit card.  Wrong  not going to happen.   Scam, Scam, Scam  major dirt ball.

If anyone has a way of getting this company's fax number I would love to have it.

I might have to take a trip south and show George how we handle people like him in NH area. If I get one more call from him or BB at UBS, I will take a road trip south and settle this s*** face to face.

So Georgie-Boy definitely monitors this site, he's called me about 20ish times today, and specifically referenced the comments I made here.  He said as my blood pressure rises, his calls will become damaging to my health, and I should just pay-laughable!  However, now that I realize his attempts to collect are totally BS, and his ability to damage my company's credit is non-existent, I don't really mind the calls at all.  I just turn down my ringer volume, and it's actually kind of soothing, like white noise.  At the end of the day, we're both getting paid, and I've started recording our conversations to use in the law suit we'll be bringing against his "company".  Good luck, little Georgie!

Sounds like you made some pretty poor financial decisions, in submitting to a completely bogus extortionist.  Generally, when I make a big mistake, I don't advise other people to repeat my actions.  In a sense, you're sort of as bad as George, assuming you're not George himself.

My story is the same.  Our company received a fraudulent claim for services rendered from UBS, Inc.  Then the faxes and calls from George Hill at ACDR started coming in, they're pretty harassing.  One day, after I hung up on him three consecutive times, he suggested that I not come to work while I'm menstruating- George is one classy guy.  I filed complaints with the BBB, FTC, and VA Attorney General's Office; it hasn't done much yet to curb contact, but it's worth having the harassment documented.  My only qualm is the amount of time I have to waste responding to ACDR's responses to my original BBB complaint against them.  Since we've been unable to stop the calls, my coworkers and I have begun coming up with inventive ways for responding to George's calls, such as humming classic Nick at Night theme songs into the phone (I think he likes I Dream of Genie best), placing him on hold for extended periods of time with terrible hold music, asking inane questions (Why is the sky blue?), and playing the why game (Why? Why? Why?).  George is pretty persistent, and if you can't get rid of him, you can at least have some fun.

These are the messages I get in my email daily: Pay your debt. Pay your Invoice. I am uneducated, ignorant, stupid. The faxes say these things as well. George Hill has even re written his fax cover page to attack my intelligence.  USB,George Hill, and ACDR are all scams. HE can keep on harassing, HE claims he will damage our credit if we don't pay, and that he reports us daily. FUNNY nothing is showing up. The A** doesn't even have the proper name the business is under. HE needs to be educated.
Here are some of the examples of the harassment I get daily:

This is everything you requested. Please call me directly so we can
>>>>>>> resolve
>>>>>>> this matter. Since it is Thanksgiving tomorrow, I am feeling very
>>>>>>> generous
>>>>>>> and jolly. If you want to resolve this before we leave for
>>>>>>> Thanksgiving
>>>>>>> weekend, I will be more then happy to settle this with a very good
>>>>>>> discount.



It is not fabricated in any way. Who told you it was? You must not be
>>>> very
>>>> bright. The whole purpose of a collections agency is to do everything
>>>> possible (within the law) to get this invoice paid. I didn't make the
>>>> deal
>>>> because I was feeing anything, Im just trying to close off your file.
>>>> Legally this is a debt you owe and we are not going anywhere. Also for
>>>> the
>>>> record, when you write an email to someone with all letters in caps, it
>>>> makes you look very unintelligent; the content of your email simply
>>>> reiterates it.

You can make up all the stories you like. Under the law you are liable.
>>> Pay
>>> your debt.

I am not part of the company. I was simply providing advice as well as my experience with this company. You can believe what you wish and do anything you want. If you don't want to pay them, then don't pay them. From the way you replied three times in I can see your frustration. I understand how angry you are because I was at the same position you were in. Trust me, if I ever find this man, there will be a funeral home that will make a little money. If you have any better solutions or any methods of getting rid of this company, by all means share your knowledge with the rest of us!

It would be called.....Shell?!

and there is a special place in hell for shills...

And you're a shill. Sounds like this site is making it tough for you to trick victims out of money on the phone, so you try to spew this BS on here. LOL. Now it's back to the boiler room with you, you filthy extortionist!

This man is a horrific, despicable, pathetic excuse for a human being. I have been in business for over 30 years and I have never spoken to someone that gets under my skin as much as George Hill. I SPENT over $9000 in legal fees trying to get rid of this and it did not help one bit. I complained to the BBB and the attorney general, but they did absolutely nothing. According to them, everything this company is doing is ?legal?. This is what happens when companies get more rights than people. I wasted money on five different lawyers and they all told me the same thing. Bottom line is there is nothing anyone can do about this company. I guess this is why companies like this exist in the first place. Finally, after two long years, I cut a deal with the company and paid them yesterday. If there is any piece of advice I can give to other people going through the same thing is pay off this bogus s**t as soon as possible. I am saddened to say sticking to my principles was not worth the amount of money wasted and the damage to my credit rating. If you?re anything like me, even thinking about paying this man makes your teeth grind, but rest assured there is a special place in hell for this individual. Hope this helps.

I get daily faxes from him and everytime its just the same thing.  I have filed complaints with the BBB and the Attornery General and both have said they cannot do anything because the alleged debt is for a commercial transaction.  Has anyone been successful getting the phone calls and faxes to stop?

I have reported this scam to the FTC and the NC State Attorney General and they did nothing.  Perhaps, as an organized group, we can take them down.  Come join the team, contact fightezubs@yahoo.com.

George Hill has been calling and faxing me almost everyday for over a month. I think he keeps calling because at first he tried to cut a deal if I paid right then with a credit card--instead of paying over $1,000 he said he'd accept $700. I then put him on hold and told him I was going to talk to the owners of our company. I ended up calling our attorney who told me not to worry about it and that I should ask for an invoice to be mailed. When I asked George Hill to mail me the information, he rudely said, "This isn't the 1800s". Then he said I should get a new attorney because mine didn't know what he was talking about and that's when I hung up on him. He called right back and I was told "Matthew" was on hold for me. When I picked up, he immediately said, "Matthew is my middle name. This is George Hill". He emailed me the recording and he/they must've doctored it because we would never sign up for what "the company ACDR bought the debt from" is(?) selling! Another call today followed by two faxes threatening to report us to all 3 credit bureaus... Next time he calls I'm picking up the phone to tell him I know his game and that I've reported him to the BBB and the attorney general!!! :)

I too am being harrassed by this George Hill. this has been going on since June 2011!! So far i have reported him, the company ACDR, Corp, and UBS to the BBB, the FTC, the Attorney General and it is now in the hands of the Bureau of Consumer Credit Protection. I spoke with them this morning and he assured me that this is a scam (i knew it but he has confirmed it) send any and all information such as emails, faxes etc to them and to the attorney generals office. They will be investigating them and I believe that the more people we have to throw the book at this company the better! I am so done with dealing with this monster.

I also found out that a Randall Keirl owns both UBS and ACDR, Corp.

Who is the owner?