772-228-4009
FL, US
REBI
REBI
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
THEY HAVE CALL MY JOB OVVER AND OVER I KNOW THIS IS A SCAM ASKING FOR MONEY OR I WILL GO TO JAIL OR WHATEVER THE THREAT OF THE DAY IS
REBI
REBI
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
HERE IS ANOTHER NUMBER THEY ARE USING 832546129 OR TODAY IT CANME UP AS 11832546129 ALL THE SAME THING COME TO ARREST U THIS IS BU***HIT
Harriet
Harriet
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
Calling from a different number now. 772-228-4209.A person , Jerry Martin states they are calling from a law office in Florida for a "Loan I took out in 2005 that I hadn't paid a dime on." I do not know what they are talking about and asked this guy, Jerry Martin, to transferred me to a supevisor, A Mark came on the line. , probably first person I spoke with, I told him not to call me back at work and that I had contacted the DA's office in Dekalb county who stated this was probably a scam. Jerry threatened to call my manager, and tell him what I had done. These people are crazy.
ray
ray
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
you should not misguide citizens.............i had debt on me which i forgot to pay off and these people reminded me...........so donn't rin our country's economy
d
d
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
Received a call from 813-283-0473. Guy said his name was Eric Parker and made same threat as others had made, then transferred my call to someone named Tony Fox who said he was a lawyer and he again made threats.  I also told him not call my job anymore.  He then called back on this number and left a message saying if I did not call back today they could not help me.
krisitna
krisitna
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
They continue calling my work phone number. We may take leagal action against them. as soon as we find out where they are. They say they are calling form Social Security Disability. They are aksing for one's social security number!
Tina
Tina
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
They called my office looking for someone who has not worked her in years.  When I refused to tell them my name they told me they would keep calling and not take the # off their list.  When I asked for his name, he said Lawrence and he was with the Social Security Administration.

Sorry RAY but you are the one misguided. It is crooks like this that (Rin) or ruin our economy.
mick
mick
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
I got a message on my cell phone on the 17th telling me I needed to call 314-698-4842 or pay the consequences !!wtf !! He couldn't even speak English very well so I did not understand half of what he was saying nor do I really care :) He said is James.  So, hey I have free long distance so I call the # he left and the number wasn't even a good #.  They are lucky because they were going to get an earful.  I am glad that I have caller ID because if they call back I have something for their a**es !!lol.  They fu**ed with the wrong person!!
Omar
Omar
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
I received 3 calls in the past 2 days from a Kevin Jones stating he was from Legal Affidavit Co(772-228-4009), Quik PayDay (949-743-0198) or Kevin's cell # (321-445-2194) telling me that I owed them money.  This Kevin person has a very thick accent.  Also telling me that my file is going to me downloaded to the court and i will be arrested.
Ramondi
Ramondi
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
I also received a cal from Kevin Jones today stating the same thing. He said that I owed $800 + dollars. I informed him that I paid this debt back in March and I was told I didn't didn't owe anything else. I paid $1660 back in March and I'm paying another dime to anyone.
Den
Den
2011-06-06 20:56:47
Unknown
It's a scam! Don't pay anything!
Not Falling For It!!!!!
Not Falling For It!!!!!
2010-11-19 21:40:01
Unknown
These people are absolutely relentless. They have beening calling me over and over again at work and on my cell phone. This Ray Fleck guy is not scary at all. He says he's from the Legal Department for the State of Florida and that there are three alligations against my SS#. Well I called the Legal Dept for the State of Florida and the assured me that there is no such Ray Fleck and took down all the information so that they can investigate this evil person. Your not going to get a dime from me you IDIOT!!
MB
MB
2009-04-24 16:53:22
Unknown
Its a BIG SCAM don't give out any information
MB
MB
2009-04-24 16:50:21
Unknown
These guys are now calling from 213 995 3052 in Los Angeles dont give out any information
mick
mick
2008-10-19 19:52:41
Unknown
I got a message on my cell phone on the 17th telling me I needed to call 314-698-4842 or pay the consequences !!wtf !! He couldn't even speak English very well so I did not understand half of what he was saying nor do I really care :) He said is James.  So, hey I have free long distance so I call the # he left and the number wasn't even a good #.  They are lucky because they were going to get an earful.  I am glad that I have caller ID because if they call back I have something for their a***s !!lol.  They fu**ed with the wrong person!!
ec
ec
2008-09-09 14:22:33
Unknown
There's something funny about a crook invoking the name of God.

FYI, these scammers often reference God when trying to steal your money.
tony fox
tony fox
2008-09-06 14:48:02
Unknown
i think it's your choice if you are honest you should pay your debts cos even i forgot to oay my debt and paid via this ..........jst remember at the end of the day it's god to whom we have to give jstification............
REBI
REBI
2008-09-05 17:00:02
Unknown
HERE IS ANOTHER NUMBER THEY ARE USING 832546129 OR TODAY IT CANME UP AS 11832546129 ALL THE SAME THING COME TO ARREST U THIS IS B***S***
ec
ec
2008-09-04 19:03:38
Unknown
It's a scam. And all their threats are false and illegal.  ABC News just did an investigative piece on this particular scam operation. Here's the report:  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1

This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."

Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, US Bank, Sonic Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (Read http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com    
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
Lisa
Lisa
2008-09-04 17:12:38
Unknown
Do not pay these people anything.  It's a scam.  And if you do give them money, they will still continue to call.  Anyone who receives these phone calls need to report it to anyone who will listen.  I don't know how, but these people need to be stopped.  Even though I know it is a scam, it's embarassing to receive these phone calls at work.  They are relentless crooks.  DO NOT PAY THEM A PENNY!!!!!
Michelle
Michelle
2008-09-04 12:24:57
Debt Collector
I received a call on 9/02/2008 at work from a Ray Fleck stating that I had a payday loan back in June 19, 2005 for $525.00 through US Bank and now it has been turned over to Morgan Associates and they are requesting $4500 and if you don't pay the money a police will pick you up at your place of business or residence and he gave me all my bank information I had back in 2005 but when I pulled my bank statements I don't see nowhere were I had a payday loan on June 19, 2005.  I told him I will send him some money Friday and he asked me to write and fax him a statement saying I and my name and the last 4 digits of my SS# and it was not my intention not to pay back this loan and due to the misunderstanding I apologize for all inconvience caused by me and I will pay $629 on Friday, 9/05/2008.  Could you please let me know if this is a SCAM
L. Martin
L. Martin
2008-09-03 21:49:27
Unknown
I received a call today stating that they were with US national Bank. I have contacted the Attorney General's Office in Alabama. They have my complaint and will be investigating. They did state that there was no way that I could get them not to call. They threatned me too with faxing an affidavit and I could lose my job. I told them to do so.
Harriet
Harriet
2008-09-02 16:08:03
Unknown
caller stated they were a billing agency, called by phone, not Fax. Sorry about that.
Harriet
Harriet
2008-09-02 16:06:17
Fax Machine
Was getting a call few months ago, and looked up in Google. looks like a scam. Rec'd calls Friday and today from 772-228-4009. Making threats, etc. I'm just gonna keep hanging up on them. Any way to stop these calls? Called them back and asked for name of the company and was told they could not tell me. I told them to quit calling me and someone named Jeff told me to shut-up and hung up on me. Maybe that's the way to get rid of them.
ELF
ELF
2008-08-28 21:26:32
Unknown
THEY JUST CALLED ME AT WORK.  I HAVE HAD OTHER PHONE CALLS FROM ANOTHER NUMBER STARTING WITH A 410 AREA CODE BUT THEY STOPPED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.  I HAVE REPORTED THEM TO THE FTC, FBI, LOCAL AND STATE POLICE.  THEY DON'T QUIT.  THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH AT ALL.
Sasha
Sasha
2008-08-28 15:58:25
Unknown
I got an odd message from these chowderheads making some pretty serious (possibly illegal, definately unethical)threats against someone I don't know.
Junos
Junos
2008-08-26 13:27:03
Unknown
who is the number?
1-435-251-8684 1-800-804-0057 1-626-207-7210
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