This number also called me trying to get my personal information.  They claimed they were from Secure Accout Services asking if I was interested in renewing my Indetity Theft Protection subscription, a subscription I have never had.  They hung up the phone as soon as I told them I was not interested in giving them the last 4 of my SSAN or my bank account information.

these guys are out right thieves, here's where they really are located and some info on their real company name. INFORMATION OF THE PUBLIC DOMAIN (IE A COMPANY INFO) CAN BE LEGALLY POSTED. You can remove it as many times as yuo like it will be put back. I have found more compliants abpout you little turds. Real interesting that whole banksafe/ paystream usa " concept". Seeems like you crack headfs have started witrh secure account services know. I am looking into Lloyd R Ferry. Soon everything about him will be posted. I will start by giving secure accounts real address in  the usa:
Detail by Entity Name Florida Limited Liability Company SECURE ACCOUNT SERVICES, LLC Filing Information
Document Number    L06000051379
FEI Number    204969102
Date Filed    05/18/2006
State    FL
Status    ACTIVE

Principal Address 8419 FENWICK AVE.
TAMPA FL 33647 Mailing Address 8419 FENWICK AVE.
TAMPA FL 33647 Registered Agent Name & Address FERRY, LLOYD R
8419 FENWICK AVE.
TAMPA FL 33647 Manager/Member Detail Name & Address Title MGRM FERRY, LLOYD R
8419 FENWICK AVE.
TAMPA FL 33647 Annual Reports
Report Year    Filed Date
2007    07/03/2007
2008    03/20/2008

As for your call center or customer lovy dovy care center in Montreal:

Solutions de Paiements Paystream Inc. situated on 204 Notre-Dame west Suite M-1 Montreal was founded in April 28, 2006 and registrered on May 4, 2006. Its economic activity is listed as Financial Services and has anywhere from 1 to 5 employees.  The postal address for the company is C/O Me. Melvin Kronish 5050 de Sorel  suite 107, Montreal. The principal shareholder and president is Ari Tietolman residing at 1980 Sherbrooke west #600 Montreal Quebec.  The second shareholder and secretary is Matthew Kent Sims also at 1980 Sherbrooke west #600 Montreal, Quebec. The company also goes under the name Paystream Payment Solutions Inc.. All its annual declarations ar up to date. All checks have turned out negative as to which financial institution they do businees with. The company has no files and none of its financial transactions are done through thefollowing banks:
Laurentienne Bank
National Bank
Bank of Montreal
Royal Bank
CIBC
Bank of Nova Scotia
Bank of Hong Kong
Desjardins Group
HSBC Bank

The company has no assests registered.  It is most probable that the two shareholders have used their identity to get the finances and not the company's name.

The company Solutions de Paiements Paystream Inc. rents the offices at 204 Notre-Dame West Montreal, building that is owned by Maustaires Holdings Inc. situated at 401 Notre-Dame W. Montreal.  the president of Maustaires Holdings Inc. at John Sims.  It is impossible to determine whether there is a family tie between Matthew Kent Sims and John Sims

As for your jewy sewy lawer Melvin Kronish, well I think he should govern you a little more. Seems like the problem is garbage like you. Maybe the matzaball can help you a little, here's a hint for the the talmudic law man:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/217/RipOff0217281.htm
You may think that an up fronyt fee is stander, but the FTC says no. The FTC rules say that the fee can only be received afer the frauded manies are returned. You seem to think diffrently. The swarma should look inside the company he is affilited with to see if they are following procedure. I beleive he is the only law man in that company, would he be responsible for this misrepresentation or lie?

Called my 75 yr old mother twice.  First time from a different number and convinced her to give her bank account number, telling her she was going to lose her Medicare coverage if she didn't.  She told me and we closed the account immediately.  Now they have called again while I was there, saying they are attempting to get into her account (the account we closed)without success.  Gave his name as Tony Bryant from Account Services.  She gave the phone to me when he wouldn't listen to her and he became VERY NASTY with me.  Funny, if this is legitimate, he hung up ASAP when I mentioned I was giving all the information he told me to my lawyer.

hey retard,
ever think of emailing me? Luckly enought I came back to this page, otherwise I would never have gotten the message. And by the way, those planes we used to see over the farm, well I have a new clue.
I 'm going to tell frank too

Percy, this is keegan from monkton, email me you crazy bi***, Keegz_20@hotmail.com

There is a connection between Mathew Simms and John simms.

The connection is Micheal Veynberg, owner of Paystream USA in Hoboken New Jersey. Other names used : Pharma direct ( complaints) and Banksafe USA ( complaints).

John Simms and Micheal Veyberg have some kind of shipping company together. They seem to all know each other.

I just need to clear up the above post. It is written in fine print uderneath that they are not associated with any banks, you can us their softer with these banks.

They have some kind of resale / franchise agreement with a company called MySpy.com.

The software comes from MySpy.com.

They install the software on your computer and it monitors your account.

Myprotext is more expensive than myspy.

no only is their crappy new company not affilited with the CIBC, the TD told me that they have no affiliation with them either. They also told that they offer the same service free of charge.

Still havn't answsered why you made those claims when they are false.

Whoever you are, I fail to see what you are trying to do. It is definitely not contributing anything constructive to the original complaint. After reading this entire entry I have come to two conclusions: first you are not and never have been a client of the company you are trashing, and as such have no entitlement to the demands you are making even though they have made every effort to give you what you wanted - much less have a right to even post on this entry. Second, you have obviously no intent on contributing to the complaint in any way.  You are only using it and apparently many others as a vehicle for whatever personal war you have with Mr. Tietolman. Where I come from that is behavior actionable by law, and from where I stand you would be very well advised to take THEM seriously on their cease-and-desist demand.  Not only have you been racial, threatening, and vulgar, but you have dragged in other people and companies that have nothing to do with the original and legitimate complaint.  You really should rethink your approach to this very obvious smear campaign, whatever your motivation for it is.

I won't claim to be someone I'm not, nor will I insist on collaborating with either party on this forum, yet I will state openly as a public viewer, that I find it quite disturbing to see such an odd series of questions, statements, remarks and comments that seem to not even represent nor deal with the subject matter of which this site, (1800notes) was developed for.

What I do see, as a "watcher" of sorts, is a very angry individual whom, seemingly has an obvious grudge against the owner or representative of an organization.

The fact that several legal boundaries were not only crossed here, but completely blown out of proportion is a sad one to say the very least.

I've read through the entire course of these posting, and as a witness on both accounts now (this is a publicly accessible forum!) my only conclusion is; One man has a personal vendetta on another one man, and uses the man's place of business as his formal attack".

I see lawsuit written al over this one.  Problem is, one claims to be on dedication and overseen by peers.

Who's REALLY not doing their job here?

I sent this series of comments over to a colleague at a local law firm, and although I haven't heard anything back yet, I think there are now more than 2 parties involved in what appears to be a case of mere push and shove.

Picking apart a company, whether reputable or not, is one thing, taking a personal approach and blatantly threatening an individual AND HIS FAMILY is not only wrong, it is in fact, punishable by law.

To my understanding, the individual in question resides in Canada (unless I misunderstood), the laws in Canada governing Cyber Crimes and Libel are not just a fine - they amount to actual time in prison. Might I make a mere suggestion and as that you refrain from further posting? It is, merely a suggestion.

As per those on the receiving end of the spectrum, I'd suggest doing the same, as the man clearly is just begrudged, and not at all a client of the company, nor an employee of said company.

If I may also suggest to the angry individual, for the record, I am not affiliated, linked to, or corresponding on behalf of said company. Nor am I anyone representing, affiliated or linked to you.

It is appalling however, to think that in this day and age there are still people out there who will use any means necessary in order to discredit another person or entity. the public forums we're equipped with these days, and the speed in which we as people can make public our deepest frustrations to our most intimate announcements is all-out scary, when you factor in of course the ease of how simple it really is to remain anonymous.

Ask yourself this however: What are you REALLY trying to do? and what purpose does your motivation serve?  Is it genuinely justifiable?

To the representatives of said company: As a man of the legal world, might I suggest simply maintaining a complete database of these communications and following through with any legal action you may have (most likely) considered. I'm certain the kind folks at 1800notes would surrender any and all posts, even if removed to any legal individual you have on hand. You do realize of course that the individual in question has openly placed himself on a legal chopping block.

If the company at hand is indeed a legitimate one, I can only state how badly I feel, in that one person is able to tarnish a good business practice.

Just my 2 cents.

Ryan

you should put an end to your antics. You are not affiliated with any banks. I called the CIBC and they told me that you posted incorrect information. Looks like you had it removed. You still have the CIBC listed on your " internal search" engine. I want it removed. I will make sure you never con anyone with you new company again.
Further more, I am asking you to give me the address of your Montreal telemarketing office.
It CRTC law and it and the TCPA

General Provisions of the TCPA

Companies which make telemarketing calls must not call residences before the hour of 8:00 AM or after 9:00 PM.

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When calling, telemarketers must provide their company name, the name of the entity for whom they are calling and a telephone number and address for their comapny and the entity for whom they are calling (if such are different).
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The company doing the telemarketing MUST MAINTAIN a written Do Not Call Policy. They MUST provide this written Do Not Call Policy upon demand.

The company must maintain a Do Not Call List. Upon request (written or verbal), the company MUST immediately place an individual on their Do Not Call List. Such requests must be honored for five years.

Telemarketing calls cannot be made with the use of artifical voices or recordings (note that this is not the case with debt-collection calls).

Those who are "damaged" by the calls (i.e. the recipients of the calls) are entitled to damages of from $500 to $1500 PER VIOLATION or actual monetary damages - whichever is higher. Despite the fact that the TCPA is a federal law, these damages can be sought in a state court - more importantly they are perfectly suited for your local Small Claims Court - a venue that is decidedly more appropriate for those who want to handle a case in pro per and/or minimize attorney's fees.

Why are you not able to respect these laws? Is it not clear to you that what you are doing is illegal? Is it so difficult to give your customers the right information? It took almost 5 post before Ferry Lloyd.

Well, well, well. Mr John Moore, Ari Tietolman, John Banks, Denise Bradford, Melvin  Kronish.

It seems I have caught you in another lie. This one is pretty good, becasue it's so flagrant.

One week ago, I saw that at protext.com you had listed as " Financial institution" that support your product the CIBC, TD, RBC...

I called the CIBC and they told me that were not affiliated with you in anyway. They also told me that they were going to call you and ask you to remove the link to their web site. They did that and you were able to comply with their request. Unfortunatly I see that when I use your  internal search engine to find out what institution support you ( other than the police) I find this:

To verify if your bank account or credit card supports this revolutionary software, please use the search fields below, or click the link below to view an updated list of banks and credit cards that support PROTEXT.

For a full list of supported institutions, click here.

Search for:      
Any words  All words  Exact phrase  




Province   ---- select ----                           Alberta Atlantic Provinces Atlantic Regions British Columbia Ontario Saskatchewan  
State   ---- select ----                            
Select Category   ---- select ----                           Canada United States International  

     
Search Results
Found 1 results while searching for cibc  
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC)


PLAIN AND OBVIOUS THAT YOU DID NOT DO EVERYTHING THEY ASKED YOU TO.

YOU GOT IT SOMEWHAT RIGHT. I WILL CALL THEM ON FRIDAY AND I WILL MAKE SURE THEY KNOW YOU STILL PRETEND/THINK/BELEIVE THAT YOU ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
YOU DID NOT COMPLY WITH MY REQUEST TO UPDATE "SECURE ACCOUNT SERVICES" WEB SITE. NOR DID YOU SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS IN MONTREAL, IT WAS THE LAW. YOU SHOULD START TAKING ME SERIOUSLY.

SECURE ACCOUNT SERVICES LLC.
HEAD OFFICE
8419 Fenwick Avenue
Tampa, Florida
33647

WWW.SECUREACCOUNTSERVICES.NET


DIRECTORY:


John Moore
Client Services
Tel.: 1-800-491-0029
Fax: 1-800-881-7702
j.sasmoore@gmail.com

Jason Taylor
Fraud Specialist
Tel.: 1-877-388-7220
Fax: 1-800-881-7702
jayson.tailor@gmail.com

John Banks
Quality Control
Tel.: 1-877-766-0449
Fax: 1-800-881-7702
bank.john08461@gmail.com

Thanks confused...

You are right, its not our number, but then again, it seems that our thread on this site have become a wasteland for bored web surfers posting incorrect information...

Complete misuse of the internet... Its sad!!!

Thanks for recognizing the complaint does not belong here...

Are you sure you're not mixing this company's reports with some other one?  I checked the number you left in your "Caller ID" part of your post, and those reports refer to some sort of collection agency, where this one's reports have to do with identity theft - well, that and some guy's obvious vendetta against one of the owners/employees.  

Seems like apples and oranges to me.

I'm glad I did not answer this phone call yesterday!  After googling this number sounds like a bankrupt 'LLC' that changes it's name as it goes.  If I wanted a soap opera (which is what this so-called company acts like) I'd watch them on the television.  Very immature and unprofessional people it sounds like to me!  I might just smell a scam?

for your info that wasn't me

Thank you for posting the link to my new project...

By no means is this project a conflict of interest with any of my other affiliated projects and campaigns; they are all based on consumer protection, identity theft prevention, and fraud recovery...

PROTEXT is the evolution of such services, and it is currently designed as a unique client side software that monitors online bank transactions in real time, and notifies clients of each and every transaction that hits their bank accounts and credit cards by means of SMS text message receipts sent directly to their mobile phone and or email account. By notifying clients in real time of a potential fraudulent transactions as their are happening, clients can contact the authorities and their financial institutions to freeze their accounts to prevent future attempts immediately... and by reporting the incident in a timely fashion, the client has a stronger re-assurance that their bank will reverse the fraudulent transaction without any delays...

The software is so secure and revolutionary, that a server side application is already being designed for major institutions across Canada, and the United States; for banks and security companies to offer addedd security to their existing clientele. We have also commenced negotiations with credit bureaus such as Transunion to reformat the software for instant notification to clients whose credit information has been compromised...

Please visit the website at the link you posted for more details. Use my personal contact form to let me know if you would like to receive a trial license to use the software yourself, you will be more than impressed, and will soon understand how PROTEXT will revolutionize the remedies available today to protect your financial interests, and very soon become a household name across North America.

On a side note, PROTEXT is not sold through telemarketing, and if your blog is an attack on the credibility of the software, my company or myself, you are poorly misinformed about who I am, what my company does, and who you are dealing with

Thank you for your post, and please visit the website. We would love to provide you with a trial license to use the software so that you can spread the good word...

Sincerely,

ARI TIETOLMAN

PS. Why do you use the alias HOMER, are you embarassed to address yourself by real name Mr. Percy Fayer... And, let me tell you what you should expect within the next 30 days... If you would like to know more, I recommend we communicate these facts confidentially, so please contact me directly using my PROTEXT contact forms and www.myprotext.com... I will share with you what our legal staff thinks you should know about the potential charges you are now facing in regards to Harrassment, character defomation, corporate slander, and death threats. You are already in seriously hot water, and your location is known. I hope Philip and Elizabeth can cover the legal costs of the class action suit that is already being filed against you. Be careful, two can play this game, but I can assure you, you will not come out the winner...

I offer one final chance to put an end to your antics, before your entire case file is exposed and persued... Contact me, I am giving a final chance to redeeem yourself once and for all!!!

You seem to dabble in quote a few questionalbe activities.

Ari Tietolman...

www.myprotext.com

ari@myprotext.com

1-866-957-TEXT


Wouldn;t this be a conflict of interest with your current 'job'?

Also:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/tmarkg/target.shtm

Funny, you posted as the 'owner' and not as an 'employee' (the option is a very CLEAR choice) many times on ripoff report. You also seem to change addresses quite often also.

these guys are out right thieves, here's where they really are located and some info on their real company name. INFORMATION OF THE PUBLIC DOMAIN (IE A COMPANY INFO) CAN BE LEGALLY POSTED. You can remove it as many times as yuo like it will be put back. I have found more compliants abpout you little turds. Real interesting that whole banksafe/ paystream usa " concept". Seeems like you crack headfs have started witrh secure account services know. I am looking into Lloyd R Ferry. Soon everything about him will be posted. I will start by giving secure accounts real address in  the usa:
Detail by Entity Name Florida Limited Liability Company SECURE ACCOUNT SERVICES, LLC Filing Information
Document Number    L06000051379
FEI Number    204969102
Date Filed    05/18/2006
State    FL
Status    ACTIVE

Principal Address 8419 FENWICK AVE.
TAMPA FL 33647 Mailing Address 8419 FENWICK AVE.
TAMPA FL 33647 Registered Agent Name & Address FERRY, LLOYD R
8419 FENWICK AVE.
TAMPA FL 33647 Manager/Member Detail Name & Address Title MGRM FERRY, LLOYD R
8419 FENWICK AVE.
TAMPA FL 33647 Annual Reports
Report Year    Filed Date
2007    07/03/2007
2008    03/20/2008

As for your call center or customer lovy dovy care center in Montreal:

Solutions de Paiements Paystream Inc. situated on 204 Notre-Dame west Suite M-1 Montreal was founded in April 28, 2006 and registrered on May 4, 2006. Its economic activity is listed as Financial Services and has anywhere from 1 to 5 employees.  The postal address for the company is C/O Me. Melvin Kronish 5050 de Sorel  suite 107, Montreal. The principal shareholder and president is Ari Tietolman residing at 1980 Sherbrooke west #600 Montreal Quebec.  The second shareholder and secretary is Matthew Kent Sims also at 1980 Sherbrooke west #600 Montreal, Quebec. The company also goes under the name Paystream Payment Solutions Inc.. All its annual declarations ar up to date. All checks have turned out negative as to which financial institution they do businees with. The company has no files and none of its financial transactions are done through thefollowing banks:
Laurentienne Bank
National Bank
Bank of Montreal
Royal Bank
CIBC
Bank of Nova Scotia
Bank of Hong Kong
Desjardins Group
HSBC Bank

The company has no assests registered.  It is most probable that the two shareholders have used their identity to get the finances and not the company's name.

The company Solutions de Paiements Paystream Inc. rents the offices at 204 Notre-Dame West Montreal, building that is owned by Maustaires Holdings Inc. situated at 401 Notre-Dame W. Montreal.  the president of Maustaires Holdings Inc. at John Sims.  It is impossible to determine whether there is a family tie between Matthew Kent Sims and John Sims

As for your jewy sewy lawer Melvin Kronish, well I think he should govern you a little more. Seems like the problem is garbage like you. Maybe the matzaball can help you a little, here's a hint for the the talmudic law man:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/217/RipOff0217281.htm
You may think that an up fronyt fee is stander, but the FTC says no. The FTC rules say that the fee can only be received afer the frauded manies are returned. You seem to think diffrently. The swarma should look inside the company he is affilited with to see if they are following procedure. I beleive he is the only law man in that company, would he be responsible for this misrepresentation or lie?

I appreciate your advice Desiloo, but being that we are an independant company offering a consumer protection service specializing in the reversal, resolution, and reimbursement of unauthorized bank withdrawals, it is virtually impossible to omit the topic and/or word BANK from sales presentations...

From time to time clients get confused when matters dealing with financial topics often originate from the source, being their financial institution. It is for this reason that we reinforce the fact that we are independant company that networks consumer advocates and fraud recovery specialists to resolve such matters on our clients behalf, and we are quite successful at doing so. Skeptical clients who have been victimized in the past may assume after the fact that once again our charge is fraudulent based on the psychological conditioning they developped through their track record of negative experiences. It is a major obstacle that we encounter when dealing with such demographics, but once given the opportunity to work on their behalf, our hard work speaks for itself, and it becomes easier for the client to diffrentiate the good from the bad...

Although the client may not always recall all the details of their conversation with us, or with whom they spoke with for that matter, we have all the records to prove that we never identified ourselves as a bank, as well as the proof of the claims we were successful in resolving for our clients! We are here to help!

We too record all conversations made with our clients with their express consent, and I can assure you that we have records for every mutual client that you speak of whereby they were directly informed by us on record that we have absolutely no affiliation whatsoever with the financial institution they bank with, or with whom their problems originated from in the first place...

If all banks monitored, verified, reported and validated the authorization for every transaction occuring in their clients accounts, there would be no need for services like ours in the marketplace; unfortunately that is not reality, and therefore services like ours are in high demand.

You have stated in your post that you have seen all of our contact information posted on this site... If we have mutual clients that require services in this field beyond what your institution is capable of offering, or if the clients ultimately wish to discontinue their relationship with us, we are not hard to reach, and we would be happy to approve any valid cancellation request or subsequent refund...

On that note, if you have any other suggestions for the company or I, please do not hesitate to contact me directly... We have established good relationships with other intitutions in the past, and we have also assisted the fraud/security divisions of said institutions to investigate and resolve certain claims for their clients. It is nice to see that you and your institution prioritize the needs of your clients, but as we both very well know, that is not the case with all banks!

ARI
1-800-949-4305

Ari,

Thank you for providing contact information.  As the Information Security Officer for a large bank, I have had several calls from our customers where your company represented itself as being associated with our bank.  We have recorded details from our customers through this date, March 4, 2008, and will be providing that information to the U.S. Secret Service Electronic Crimes Task Force.  This group investigates fraud associated when financial institutions.  Perhaps you should change your sales pitch to refrain from using the word "bank".

From time to time we ask clients for their feedback to show where we are successful, and we we may need improvement. We also ask for their consent to publish their comments on their behalf...

It has been validated that J. Moore did submit the post on behalf of the client aliased as ARVISGUY, however verbal consent was authorized by our client to post their comments...

Most of our inbound customer care department conversations are recorded for security purposes... We are also receiving a handful of testimonials from satisfied clients each week... For those who may want to verify the facts posted herein, or would like more information regarding our services, please do not hesitate to contact us...

We have many departments, and several toll free lines for each department to make it easier for clients to reach us...  A full contact list will be available on our new website which is scheduled for unveiling within the next month or two?

In the meantime, here are the company coordinates, and a partial directory for those requesting more information:

SECURE ACCOUNT SERVICES LLC.
111 North 12th Street - Suite 1618
Tampa, Florida  
33602

WWW.SECUREACCOUNTSERVICES.NET
(Temporarily under construction)

DIRECTORY:

Ari Tietolman
Director of Operations
Tel.: 1-800-949-4305
Fax: 1-800-881-7702
secureaccountservices@gmail.com

John Moore
Client Services
Tel.: 1-800-491-0029
Fax: 1-800-881-7702
j.sasmoore@gmail.com

Jason Taylor
Fraud Specialist
Tel.: 1-877-388-7220
Fax: 1-800-881-7702
jayson.tailor@gmail.com

John Banks
Quality Control
Tel.: 1-877-766-0449
Fax: 1-800-881-7702
bank.john08461@gmail.com


ON THAT NOTE:

IF YOU GET THE VOICEMAIL>>>LEAVE A DETAILED MESSAGE? We guarantee that you will get called back within 24 hours of leaving your message? The majority of call backs are made within the same hour the message is left.

Hopefully this information will be used to contact us directly, rather than posting complaints and never following up with our company... All of our toll free lines are active, and all of our voicemails are logged and called back... It would be much easier to contact us directly when there are claims to fill or complaints to resolve...

ARI TIETOLMAN

Sam Goodrow has been a collection officer in our accounts receivable department for the last 6 months... He was recently repositioned as a renewal agent in our enrollment center for various reasons...

It seems as though he brought along some of his bad "collection" strategies while calling on clients to renew their plans...

Several months ago I had overheard a coversation between him and a client who bounced a check on our company... I took the phone from him midway, and apologized for his aggressive behaviour in trying to collect her funds. At that point, I gave him a warning that if he ever treats a client like that again, he will automatically be terminated... He digested the warning and became an angel in dealing with clients from that point forward...

At least that is until now... After reading your post, I called on Mr. Goodrow to get his side of the story... He recalled his conversation with you, and admitted to becoming controlling, but he swears he never called you an idiot!... I demanded that he call you back to apologize, but he refused; claiming that you started it by getting rude with him first?!

Needless to say, my conversation ended with him at the same time as his employment ended with our company. I had to terminate his employment, he will no longer be working for Secure Account Services, and I sincerely apologize on behalf of the company for his lack of respect with you. There are no excuses for that type of behavior, as far as I am concerned...

I would like to offer you renewal of your policy absolutely free of charge for the next 2 years-if you accept...

The 2 main reasons for my offer are:

1. Consolation for the way you were mistreated...

2. To prove to you that the service we provide cannot be offered free of charge by any bank... Perhaps you are not familiar with all the benefits our policy can provide you, but I assure you that even the lowest price lawyer would charge a minimum of 1500$ for the work Secure Accounts can do for for you... And no bank would do even 10% of such, despite the fact that they charge hidden monthly fees for your added financial security...

Secure Accounts Services offers such a broad range of consumer protection services that will guarantee your financial peace of mind...

In conclusion, I do apologize for your experiences earlier today, and if you are interested in knowing more about our services and would like to take me up on my offer, please do not hesitate to call me directly...

One thing is is for sure, you certainly wont be getting a call back from Sam Goodrow on behalf of this company....

Sincerely,

ARI TIETOLMAN
800-949-4305

received at call from a "Sam Goodrow" about my alledged Secure Account Services policy.  Said it was a 2 yr policy automatically renewed for $189.00 Reatedly told him no.  Would not give policy number or customer service number - told me I did not give the orders, he did.  I told him since it was MY money, I did give the orders!  After some more nastyness, he told me he cancelled my policy, called me an idiot and hung up.  I called my bank and notified them - they had no clue what this was and thought it was a scam, esp. since they provide this service for free!!

Since we received a private message from Ari, where he asked for more details. Here they are:

The person who posted as 'arvisguy' on Feb 6, 2008 also posted as 'John' on Feb 7, 2008.

In that message he said:

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Glad we were able to help Gary.

Thank-you for your post.
John Moore
Client services
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I would not trust this particular message posted by 'arvisguy' as it was submitted by someone who in another thread (http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-800-491-0029) claimed to work for this company.