I just received a call from Jan allen today. The first red flag was that she asked for a Matt burnette instead of Patrick burnette, and then went on tellin me I owed 1880 for a payday loan from December 2011. That was the biggest red flag cuz I keep all financial statements and I had the proff I payed it off the month after I took it out. This women told me I was wrong and that they were going to send out a warent for my arrest. She went on to tell me I could pay 750 by the end of the day, 1,250 by the end of June, or 200 a month till I payed the whole 1,880 off. My wife done some online researh, and she found out that these people have been scamming people for almost 10 years now. The number she called me from is 888-909-2691 and told me to call her back at 888-506-6007 ext: 538. Well i called it back and the person who answered said they did not have any record on a Patrick burnette just a Matt burnette. So if anyone receive a call from them do not give them any information or pay them anything.

So last week I got a voice mail, from Jan Allen, but she was calling from "chase Douglas and meyers fraud investigations" her voice mail had me frighten because she was calling about my mothers name coming up  in an investigation against my sister. I immediately called her back and spoke to her for well over 20 min. Then called both . My mother and sister to inform them of the call. Luckily this woman didn't ask me any information, but I did however give her my sisters new cell number. Oop

i was then informed that this is probably a scam. Feeling not right i called back. No answer.

today jan Called again but left a message saying the exact same thing but in rregards to me now. Crock of crap. 888 909 2691 Is the number she has you return the calls to.

Hopefully the things she says to others makes red flags go up don't  so they dont get involved. Like she said that my sister did a payday loan from her house using the internet. Well she never had internet. So I was thinking maybe a cell phone.. I don't know. Then she used a check from her bank. Well the bank won't give her checks due to some problems 10 years agoS


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ROSS DELONG & ASSOCIATES ARE ALSO RAN UNDER THE SCAM OF THE MACKINNONS. THEIR OPERATION IS SET UP AT 7960 BAYMEADOW WAY SUITE 2 JACKSONVILLE FL. THEY CHEAT THEIR EMPLOYEES OUT OF PAY. THEY THROWING EVERYONE IN JAIL.... RIGHT!!! THEY USE MOFIA NAMES WHEN MAKING CALLS AS WELL AS USING DIFFERENT ATTORNEY NAMES OUT OF BUFFALO NEW YORK AND TEXAS AND OTHER STATES. THE NAMES CHANGES AS THE DAY GOES ON. I COULD NOT WORK THEIR LONG BECAUSE OF THEIR ILLEGAL TACTICS AND WAS NERVOUS THE FEDS WOULD BE AT THE DOOR ANY DAY. ERIC ROSS IS RUNNING THIS PLACE FOR GREG MACKINNON. THERE IS ALSO 4 OTHER SHOPS SET UP IN JACKSONVILLE UNDER THE MACKINNON UMBRELLA.

Here's a new one!  I keep getting phone calls from this number allegedly from the CT State Dept of Health doing a health survey.  I don't answer any phone call with a toll free/unknown name number  listed on caller i.d.

I got a call form this company also and aske dthem to send me a copy of the information. Her response was I can't fax you the orginal. I didnot understant that part of the information. Called me back at my job and said that they will be serving papers to me to appear in court.

They keep calling my cell phone for someone else and I have told them several times that they have the wrong number.

THEY ARE NOT A REGISTERED LAW FIRM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NYS Department of State
Division of Corporations
Entity Information
The information contained in this database is current through December 28, 2010.

Selected Entity Name: BRYANT & BENJAMIN SERVICES, LLC
Selected Entity Status Information
Current Entity Name:    BRYANT & BENJAMIN SERVICES, LLC
Initial DOS Filing Date:    APRIL 09, 2010
County:    ERIE
Jurisdiction:    NEW YORK
Entity Type:    DOMESTIC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Current Entity Status:    ACTIVE

Selected Entity Address Information
DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
BRYANT & BENJAMIN SERVICES, LLC
255 DELAWARE AVENUE
SUITE 2A
BUFFALO, NEW YORK, 14202
Registered Agent
NONE

These guys are a scam.  They dont scar me at all.  Let them all go to jail.  They claim that they cannot give you an address to dispute the debt, which proves that they are not real.  They should at least have a po box or something.  They said they will get death threats if they give out their address.  Wonder what they did that is so bad that people want to give them death threats?  Sounds like a bunch of retarded idiots working for 10-18 dollars an hour at a Bufffalo Ny payday loan office.  Google 1-888-239-9586 and you will see their adds for collection agents.  Then call the number, and they will answer the phone with Bryant and Benjamin, even though the adds clearly say NRG and associates.  DUH?????????  Stupid jerks.

IT IS A SCAM

I received a call this afternoon.  A lady who did not leave her name claimed to be calling from Bryant and Benjamin Law Center.  She left a threatening message that this firm would be sending information to my employer on Tuesday.  The call was shortly before 6 pm ET and she said she would be in the office until 6 ET.  I had just arrived home and attempted to call her back, the voice mail said to leave the callers SOCIAL SECURITY number?????  She claimed to be calling from a law office that had docket numbers and yet their voice mail is asking for SOCIAL SECURITY numbers!!!????  I do have some medical debt from cancer, but this does not sound right.  If the law firm had judgement against me, would they not also already have my social?

I just have been able to get back to work after very rough cancer treatments!  I am in tears and very upset as I am new at this employer.  Can this "firm" do this?  This afternoon is the first time I have ever received any calls or correspondence whatsoever from them that I know of.

Bryon and Benjamin Law Center does NOT exist. I did a Martindale-Hubbard Search and it returned nothing. I also alerted the FTC about the matter as well.

Eventually, we'll get these dirt bags!!!

Got a call at my work from a Jonathan Evans.  Said he was with the Bryan and Benjamin Law Center.  Didnt say what it was about, but left the same number AND extention...877-807-7049 ext 109...

This place keeps calling me about a payday loan from back in 2008.I tried to make payment arrangments with them if they would give me an adreess to send payments They said they could not give me one.Miss Jones said I could make payments one day The next day they called again said they could not except the payments they could only make a settlement.Iwould have to pay this off in 2 payments I told them it was impossible to do that and they told me I would be served. I got a little loud with them because first of all I told them not to call my job any more which they did and then they backed out of a paymeny arrangment. I went on to explain to them that I did not work for over a year because of health problems and that i now was only working part time T hey did not care. I am a senior and have a heart problem besides other health problems and I can not take this any more some tim,es they call me 6 times a day at the least.HELP ME

J&W Associates called us from this number threatening to sue us due to a payday loan. We asked them for their address and they refused! I have been instrucred by our attorney to get company informaiton so we can send a letter that will vaildate the debt - when I explained this to them they basically told me my attorney cannot represent me in the State of Texas until I pay them.

I told them that as soon as we receive a validation of debt that we will pay - but he said we have to pay them. Well i do not know them and if they refused to provide the information then that's their problem.

WERE U EVER SERVED PAPERS TO APPEAR IN COURT? I JUST RECEIVED A CALL FROM A MS. JORDAN STATING THE SAME THING.

Never, ever admit to these people whether you owe them money or not. And don't ever confirm your ss# with them. They are fraudulent and will use any means to threaten you to get money out of you.  They will call you at work so you will need to get their fax number online and fax them a ceast and desist letter specifically stating they are not to call you at your place of employment.  They don't give up.  But never admit you owe them anything or you will start the collection process over on your credit report.

I just received a call from these people as well. Let me tell you how "basement" they sounded! At first the lady could not pronounce my name - no problem it is difficult. She then explained where she was calling from and the amount they were looking for before sending me a summons on Tuesday. First of all - no one can just pick a day and say you are getting this summons on this day or that day. It depends on court processing when you are actually served. They went on to attempt to obtain my banking information which I explained to them I can not give out with out them proving to me that they are legitimate and that this claim is as well. They placed me on hold several times to speak to this one and that supervisor and this atty and I swear it was the same person a couple of times changing their voice. They woudl not give me an address - finally they did and it's 375 N French RD - Amherst NY 14228 which she sounded as if she was reading from something. The tel # 877-807-7049 x104 is the young lady that called me. I stated over and over again that I was simply attempting to obtain proof of this debt and that if owed I had no issues with paying. They became agitated and told me I can send this to my attorney if I want and to tell him not to worry about googling their company, it is legit. Seems to me if they are a legitimate company they would offer something as simple as a telephone number, address and prrof of the debt to you without having to obtain authorization from a supervisor or better yet - their attorney!!!!! DOn't pay them crap unless you have been given proof of that debt. Take me to court to prove it, I don't believe they can because this pay day loan was paid of a long time ago!

Just received another call via a v/m from the same number and today they are calling from some law firm, I couldn't understand the name and they are threatening to have me appear in court on Fri 3/19 at 10am! How stupid do they think we are that we are goign to respond to this without paperwork to back up their allegations!!!!! I told them I have an atty that will gladly speak with them and they don't want to do that..........

Hey...... these people calling from INDIA, CHINA and other countries. where hundred of call centers are running for getting money by fraud from USA and UK citizens... ITS ALL SCAM...

How it runs..........(for debt collection)

It starts when people tries to get loan online, they fill all their personal detail on that sites and problem starts from this point. all your information is sold to collection agencies (call centers) at $4 to $6 / Person, whether you got that loan or not.

SO what actually they (Call Centers) do...

1. They have all of your information includes: your name, social security number, address, employment detail, 2 references and a detail of amount.( which you didn't get)

2. For dialing purpose call center gets USA or UK numbers. they calls through various softwares (like: ICALL). And have various phone numbers.

3.They hire college students or some people and prepare them to communicate with you. (training classes for getting a bit of American accent) and gives them fake names (American).

4. They makes a write up for leaving message to threaten you. like:-

"This message is intended for Mr. john (your name).  john the very second you receive this msg i need you or your retained attorney to call me back. the issue at hand is extremely time sensitive. my name is ..........., and i am calling from financial accountability association, my call back no. is 123456789, i am repeating this for you john 123456789, john don't disregard this msg and call me on my number back as soon as possible. if i don't get any call from you or from your attorney........ wish you good luck, bye"

5. If you pick up phones ...they will threaten you by saying... that federal govt or federal legislation  is going to pressing lawsuit against you and your social security number. and try to make you remember that you took a pay day loan and never paid it back... so it is very easy to threaten you by saying that "such company falling lawsuit against you for your unpaid loan".
( you don't know for which loan he/she talking about and try to remember your last 2- 3 loans (which you actually got and never paid)).  At this time you stuck in the situation.

(according to my perception you never know "how many loan you took in last 1 or 2 year"- sorry-- joking)

6. They will tell that you are charged against these allegations:-  1. Theft by deception 2. collateral cheque fraud

7. They will tell u that they have sent various mails to inform you but u never replied and that was the only way to communicate you.

8.They will ask u to write a Apologizing letter that “your intention was not bad and you never wanted to run away with that money & you want to fix that issue by paying ..... amount.”


how to avoid them...

1. By telling that you have an attorney (Both criminal and bankruptcy). give any number by saying "call to my attorney"... they won't call.
2. By telling that u know : Its ALL SCAM .......... they will hung up.
3. By telling that its not my social security number....... they will never call.
4.By asking for the date of loan taken (online)........ they can't help you in this matter (by which u can come to know about scam)

Don't be afraid.........They won't sue........

If this detail is helpful for you please copy paste this into other pages... don't be selfish.... and save other people from being fool.


My English is not so good.
I am an Indian........ all Indians are not same... you can send me mail for more detail:- jasusviju@gmail.com

IF YOU REALLY TOOK LOAN AND WANT TO PAY IT BACK THEN PLEASE VERIFY ALL DETAIL BEFORE PAYING ANYONE.........

Thanks and help people

NEVER EVER give your social to ANYONE! They should be asking you if the number they have is right and they can only give out the last 4!  After that if you dont believe a debt is yours you ask for proof.  Once your debt is past so many years they cant do anything about it anyway. You have to look up your local state laws to find out what kind of debt it is and how long you have b4 you can get sued, after that there is nothing anyone can do to you about the money owed. It goes by the last transaction made by you not them. So if your state law is 6 years and you go 7years without paying then make a payment you start the collection process all over again and they have another 6 years to sue you. So watch your back and make sure when the last payment was made in-case you get into a bad situation like owing $. If you are already past the date don't bother unless you can pay it all off immediately, and most likely unless you owe a ton of money they wont bother to sue! Hope this helps anyone that can use the info :)
PS If anyone calls you up threatening you, or harassing you in any way they can be the ones sued. And unless they are a lawyer or from the legal department they cant tell you that they will sue you either, that's against the law too.

I've received two calls in two days from this number. They didn't leave voice mail either time, so I have no plans to call them back. After reading they are a debt collection agency, it must be a mistake, because I have zero outstanding debt. I used to get a lot of calls on this number when I first got it, so I'm assuming it's about a previous owner of the number.

They must send you proof once it is asked for. If you got their address send a certified letter to them asking for proof of the debt. They cant claim they didnt get the letter if you can get it sent certified. The address that you are sending it to is not the address the call center is located. This whole thing sounds like a scare tactic so you pay. Its probably a debt they cant even sue you for anymore, or something they made up to get money thats how these pieces work, they scare money out of you. Dont forget to look up your state laws on debts. And dont let anyone harass you, get a lawyer and sue them if they do! That way maybe you can have enough $ you can pay off everything you may have! And then the jokes on them!!

i got a call from michelle , she said she was with JW & associates. said i owed a payday loan
fromm 2005, which the company wants 600 now to settle or she can work it out in 3 months for $1050.
I asked for paper she said she could get it. i have never got it. i called the payday company universal cash advance -aka advance america. they don't know anything about this company and they
stated its against the law for them to do business like this. Its scam. don't agree to nothing.

This same woman contacted my brother in florida over a check loan i had out from back in 2008. She threaten me with intent to fraud and that I would be arrested. She told me I had to make a payment today using a debit or credit card. Of course being scared to death i gave her the info she asked for and she told me she would hold the card number (who by the way is in my mother's name) until the March 4th. She first had to place me on hold to contact the lawyer and ask if it was okay to make a payment arrangement splitting the 1,270.00 up into two monthly payments. My check loan was only for $555.00 in which I had made some payments to the payday loan center in my town where I use to live. So I don't actually owe $555.00. I owe no more then 350. This woman had me so scared that I fell for this scam. I have children and that's all I was thinking about at the moment. After my husband my father got home and I explained to them about the call my husband told me something wasn't right. So I got on the internet and researched the name Bryant and Benjamin Law Firm. Come to think of it, when I called the woman, it sounded like she was in a closed room and not an office. It just didn't sound right the background. If anyone could help me and offer some input I would greatly appreciate it. My heart is finally in the right place knowing that these people of fake and I'm not going to jail, but now I have my parents involoved with using their bank card to pay these people. Going tomorrow morning to have my mom's account closed and open a new one up. I'm so happy to have found this website. You guys have helped so much.
Irene

255 delaware avenue
buffalo ny 14202

ask for greg mackinnon or josh sullivan, they own the chop shop collection agency. goes by abbott recovery, bryant and benjamin law firm (lol), seneca recovery group etc, etc. report them to the buffalo attorney generals office 716.845.8682.

I received a call back in Sept.of 2010 saying I owed a payday advance loan that I thought had been paid by my bank since it had been 2 years since it happened.First the man that I spoke to was very rude and accused me of theft and then he wanted me to pay a total of 1500.00 and all I borrowed was 200.He said that included attorney fees and whatever else.He refused any arrangement that I could afford and threatened to send a summons to the county where I live and have me arrested.His supervisor also told me the same thing.I don't know what the law is on payday advances so could someone please tell me what is legal and illegal about these companies?

So I received a somewhat threatening message from the number 888-665-2827. The message said for me to call back the number 888-239-9586 and on the message they identified themselves as Bryant and Benjamin. I call the original number back and the lady who answered could not identify the company and said she was the operator for the whole building.  I get through to "Bryant and Benjamin" and the representative has no idea what's up or what i might be calling about. She let a couple of the wrong words slip and told me what the file was pertaining to, a debt that I paid off last year to a JW and associates which (by no coincidence I'm sure) claimed to have the same address as Bryant and Benjamin. Stuff like this needs to come to an end!!! I tried to contact the BBB to file a complaint but you cant talk to anyone and I'm sure, since it's like a secret golf club or something where companies buy into to boost their ratings, going that route will not get me anywhere. Folks we really need to come together and stop masterminds behind scams like this from getting over on us and others. By joining together and understanding the true power we have as citizens of this nation we really can cause a change starting with this. If anyone knows what beginning steps can be taken to help bring down scams such as this one please post so that I may do my part. BE BLESSED

I too recieved a call today here in NC from a Jan Allen who identified herself as a fraud and identity theft investigator for the Bryant and Benjamin Law Firm about an old payday loan out of WI from 2006. She threatened to have me arrested and indicted on felony fraud charges with no option of restitution just prosecution.Trying to scare the hell out of me.Well baby this dog bites back hard. After a little smooth talk of hardship I got them to  fore go prosecution and reduce my original 342.00 debt that was now 900.00 + to 571.00 which she then informed me that if I did not provide a debit card and payment immediately today they would go ahead with my prosecution. I then informed her that I couldnt do the payment today for I dont have a bank account or a debit card and she informed me they would be happy to accept anyones.IMAGINE THAT! Im suppose to call back tommorow with the debit card info after she got  the attorney to give me a 24 hr extention (What a guy huh?)
Upon hanging up after getting Jan Allens contact info I immediately began investigating these thieves or scam debt collectors as the AG called them and found this blog. I  then contacted the NC, WI and NY AG and filed complaints! BEWARE DO NOT PAY THESE PEOPLE!!! You cannot be prosecuted!!! Its all a collection SCAM done online from offshore servers and accounts. No law enforcement agency will touch this or come after you. Debtor prisons are illegal. A judgement is the worst thing the lender can do. In many states you are only obligated to repay the principal ONLY and if they wont accept it your not obligated to pay anything then for they refused payment.I got some excellent info here thanks everyone from The JUNKYARD DOG!

They are a scam, that address is fake, here is the real one, and it is not an attorney!!!!  1-888-239-9586 is a number that used to be associated with James Wheaton and associates, Prescott Barnes and Stuart, and NRG and associates, all of which are illegally representing themselves as law firms.  Dont pay them, and try to reverse any payments that you already made.  Tell your bank it was misrepresented to you that they were a law firm, and send a complaint to the NY AG, and the FTC regarding their new name Bryant & Benjamin Law Center.
Selected Entity Name: BRYANT & BENJAMIN SERVICES, LLC
Selected Entity Status Information Current Entity Name:     BRYANT & BENJAMIN SERVICES, LLC
Initial DOS Filing Date:     APRIL 09, 2010
County:     ERIE
Jurisdiction:     NEW YORK
Entity Type:     DOMESTIC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Current Entity Status:     ACTIVE

Selected Entity Address Information DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
BRYANT & BENJAMIN SERVICES, LLC
255 DELAWARE AVENUE
SUITE 2A
BUFFALO, NEW YORK, 14202
Registered Agent
NONE
This is their real address, notice the similarity to the one they gave to you? They are convicted criminals with records of this same scam.  Stick up for yourself and others, and go get your money back!!!!!!!!!!

Just an educated guess.  Doug Mackinnon and his groons are running this place too.  He owns a bar  around the corner, kings arcade next door, and the phone number 1-888-239-9586 is advertised on monster and yahoo jobs for Buffalo pay day loan office hiring debt collectors 10-18 dollars per hour..  Google the number and look at the "cached" pages.  The address comes up 305 Cayuga, but these fools answer with Bryant and Benjamin at 255 Delaware.  Right next to the news channel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NRG and associates is who is offering the job, but when you call they say they are not that firm.  If you ask for James Wheaton and associates, they tell you that they took over for them.  One shmuck who answered told me they are a multimillion dollar organization with offices all over the country.  I guess they brainwash the newbees huh?  The fact that you are using the phone number listed above which is linked to NRG, and the old address of 305 Cayuga, proves the connection is not a coincidence.  Sounds like your mafia style of bill collecting is coming to an end.  The investigative reporters from channel 2 should come knocking soon.  Tell Stephanie Lowinger hi for us, as her raspy asss voice is recorded with various different stories about the reason why you guys took over for James Wheat and associates, even admitting to illegally collecting debts, and caught on tape threatening to send police to an undercover retired federal agent with the silent service's house.  Good luck felons.  Your next christmas will be behind bars, and not the ones that serve Courvassier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!